Wouldn't mind owning any of the three but my preference is the Duramax. I'll stick with my 2005 Chebbie Dmax dually cuz it's low mileage and paid for. If I could get a good resale or trade in I'd think hard about finding a low mileage 2011 GM. I do like what Dodge has done with the styling both inside and out plus the Cummins is a great mill. Not keen on the Ford design but that could always change and maybe the Scorpion will prove to be like the 7.3 and a great engine as well. DIESEL POWER!!!
the narrator needs to realize and understand that he doesn't have Barry White's voice. Oh wait, I just realized what he is trying to do: FEMALE CREAK!!!
You have no problems talking shit about them, but when it comes down to the engineering that goes into all of these beasts, I don't think any of us could even come close to making anything just as good.
So if you wanna trash talk, build one, then we'll see.
id go with dodge. i gave one myself. i had a 2000 f-250. loved it but it had alot of turbo lag, the dadge has more torque in my opinion when i hauled my fifth-wheel and not as bad of turbo lag. my opinion.
Give me a stick shift in a RAM HD 3500 Crew Cab and I'll see you in 20 years for an Over- Haul of both the clutch and engine for another 2 Million miles on the Road! I'll leave the bickering for the masses.. I've got work to do!
@thehondafoxrider LOL!! i was totally waiting for someone to say that!!! :D you get the turtle wax..... nahh but with the trucks and stuff it comes down to opinion... my uncle has a 2012 dodge cummins 24 valve heavy duty twin turbo 6 speed manual transmmittion and it has no issues :)
@nicegmctruck: I also have to ask really? I thought the CR Cummins was good? The 5.9 24v is by far the best Cummins, but the new CR was designed around that platform right? The only thing bad I heard about the new ram hd's, are the automatic tranny's, but then again, I don't work at a dodge dealer. But that's a bit surprising...
@mannwhosoldtheworld: Are you really going to compare these trucks to a Pete? That's not fair. That kind of truck is in a whole different field. If your going to compare a Pete, compare it to International, Kenworth, ect... When I used to drive Semi's, the company only had Kenworth's and it merged into traffic a lot faster than what you stated, and that's pulling a full 40. I know for a fact, Pete's aren't that slow, no matter what you're pulling.
@433222G I understand everyone's got there own preference of truck. We've been running that truck since 06 with no problems. I had to put o-rings on the injectors once when it was sucking all the oil out of the engine into the tank but other than that no problems. We also had a chevy rollback once. I had no complaints out of that truck except that it was MAJOR gas hog.
@433222G Yeah lol. I'll try to send one. I gotta put another governor in the tranny now though it's not shifting properly from 1st-2nd. Thank god for our 96 f-450 rollback that things a work horse.
@433222G As long as your combination weight on your truck and trailer axles doesn't exceed 26000 your golden. Unless your pulling like 3 suburbans with a wedge trailer or steel you will never pull anything that heavy with any of these trucks.
Cummins may come in last when drag racing with a loaded trailer, but it's the one you KNOW you will be driving past 500,000 km with no major failures. Can't say the same for the other 2
Scr in my opinion gives you shittier mpg cause you having to push that exhaust through more shit causeing more back pressure.. the more free flowing your exhaust is the better fuel milage your gonna get. It's the same with dpf's but with dpf its not nearly as complicated and near as a cluster fuck as scr is. But you can thank our gov for the emission shit even though diesel is one of the more clean burning fuels out there.
Here's some food for thought. There's usually three things that come into play on pulling power speed. 1 engine and turbo. 2 Tranny. 3 rear end ratio. The higher the ratio the more its gonna pull. The lower the ratio the faster its gonna go on lower rpms giving you better mpg. That's the way it is on big rigs anyhow. Most semi's out there are running a 3.55 rear end ratio giving you the best pulling gear without sacrificing a shit ton of mpg. And for the whole dpf scr debate.
i'm sorry but guys i need a work truck dont care how it rides want to pull, stop and go and somthing i can beat up.Big all the new looks and nice sits i dont want to get dirty
Ford and Chevy both use DEF for the SCR Dodge does not which in turn allows the Duramax and Powerstroke to turn more hp while maintaining low enough emissions. Another thing to keep in mind is that Dodge transmissions are still not up to par where as the Allison and Torque Shift are outstanding. You loose alot of power in a tranny. Cummins needs to switch to a better SCR system to allow for more hp and Dodge needs to crap or get off the pot and build a tranny that's gonna transfer the most power
This about the fifth comparison I've seen among these three trucks, and the Dodge has always come last. Why? Everyone talks a great story of Cummins but in every towing test, they always come last. I'm not suggesting it's a bad truck, but perhaps Dodge has to do more than just an interior and exterior overhaul to remain competative with Ford and GM. I know it has sufficient power and torque, but you know how gear heads think ...
@lariatfx or may its because cummins builds "inline 6 engines" which still has a shit load of power but.... the cummins is also competing against fords "V8" and chevys "V8" hense the V8.. of course its going to beat the 6 cylinder engine... thats like putting a SXT challenger against the STR8 challenger.. just saying
@mahnkecummins Let me be clear: I'm not bad-mouthing the Ram HD. I'm just a consumer who's had to buy a heavy duty truck and has done his research before making a final decision, which I have. In all these demos, Ram is ALWAYS last. In doing my research, I have herd the following about the Ram HD: "least powerful," "worst fuel economy," "least capable," "out-classed," "last place," "lowest GVWR," "fewer options." These are not things that would sell me a Ram HD.
That's not a valid argument. Inline engines have many advantages over "V" configuration engines. The Dodge Cummins still gets worse fuel economy here and this is something that puzzles me
Here's some food for thought: the next time a semi passes you on the highway, know that just about all of them use inline 6 cylinder engines. Mack, Cat, Volvo, Cummmins, international, etc. - they build mostly inline 6 cylinder engines for many reasons, but they're all beasts.
@HorsepowerAddiction it shouldn't really "puzzle" you why the RAM HD Cummins gets the worst fuel economy. It's the only HD truck among the "Big Three" that hasn't switched over to Selective Catalyst Reduction (SCR). As a result, it relies on the "old" DPF system which worsens the fuel eceonomy. Why Dodge has yet to implement SCR in its 2500-3500-while it is used in its 4500-trucks is an absolute mystery to me, and is a major contributing factor to its bad fuel economy.
if this test was accurate, the dodge would tear all of them apart, i seem tho think these people were ford lovers, i thought this was a ford commercial by the end of it, holy shit, get a grip people!!!!!!!
@brylyn23 HP is just a number... but a very important one. Basically it is how fast you can produce that "winning torque". In other words how high in the rpm band can you produce significant torque. hp= (torque * rpm)/5252 ... pay attention to the numerator.
@billyjack70 Well i dont wunna be high in the RPM band too get my torque, the lower i can produce maxium torque i'll blow your ride of the road,while your reving the snot out of yours to get that max torque.
@brylyn23 More power means more work can be done quicker. An electric motor makes peak torque at 0rpm. Which means you can probably move something really heavy... but you won't do much of anything fast.
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@mrwhamisrick: you do need a cdl once you past 25,000lbs gvw... Anything thing under that, you don't need a cdl. They're pulling 19,000 plus pounds with a 6,000 plus pound truck. If I'm not mistaken, a class B would be good enough.
So what they are saying is that the Ford and GMC's you don't feel the imperfections on the road. Mas puto! Everyone knows it is built RAM TOUGH! If you wanna see a real comparison look at the truck pulls. Old fords and Chevys are good but not the new ones. My Jeep could kick the ford and GMC's ass! GMCs and Fords went down hill in 2009!
Well you do not need a CDL to drive any of these trucks unless you are a business and the truck is for hire. Also it is torque not horsepower that you want for climbing. The more torque the better you can hold your speed while climbing.
@ohforfacksake: Most people don't understand the whole thing about the quarter mile and a diesel dually. I'll tell you. First of all that test is actually two tests...quarter mile and 0-55. When pulling a load of over 9 tons...these trucks need to be able to merge on to a highway or freeway with ease. 0-55 let's you see how you would get to the average speed limit while hauling. Those tests are not race tests...they're practicality tests.
@uaboy6 Practicallity? Still a non issue. My peterbilt takes about a minute to a minute and a half to get on the freeway, depending on my starting speed and my load, and I never seem to have an issue.
I'd like to know what kind of a dumb ass buys a 1 ton dually based on a fucking quarter mile? I'd buy a 1 ton dually based on which one will be the most durable to a quarter million+ miles!
What the heck is that guy talking about u don't need a cdl to drive any of these trucks. The trailers they were towing had to do with them requiring cdl. Also anyone who's ever felt 2000Ib-ft of torque knows 800 ain't in the same stratosphere.
why dont they ever do a real pulling test hook up a 30ft goosneck with 15 1800lbs hay bales iv yet to see any pickup keep up with a 350hp semi!! or any big rig in disguise haha do any or much better then my old Ford!!!!!!!
@ford460efi My brother in law has a 96 F250 with a 460. Yeah, it's a beast and pulls like crazy. I just don't think it would out pull a diesel in the mountains. Especially that year. Trucks, engine wise, have gotten better then back then. That 460 just don't have the torque. Maybe yours does since it's been worked over, but stock never would. Kind of rare to have a 5 speed in yours. Most had that E4OD Ford automatic.
@sokodad Im guessing I have around 250 hp 400 torque I know the 5spd makes big differents compared to the auto the auto tranny takes allot torque away!!!!!! My neighbor has a mid 2000s dodge cummins rated over 300 hp and i can stay right with him and out pull him on the hills And the powerstrokes i can walk all over them unless they chipped!!!! Im not impressed with there big horsepower and torque clames! but if could pick id go with this new ford just hope this motor can last 500000
im a gm guy through in through, but when it comes to diesels i would get a dodge. even if it did rank 3rd u gotta compare reliability... and when it comes down to it cummins will last a million miles where a ford is a ticking time bomb around 300,000km, i like the looks of the ford trucks but i would be too scared to buy something that expensive when they still haven't made a proven long lasting diesel engine.
@chevyguy427ss Not sure how the new Ford diesel is, but the old 7.3 was good easily for a half a million miles. It's all in how well you take care of them and if you run the shit out of them or not. Maintenance and care or lack of will determine any engine or vehicles longevity. The way they're stretching the limits of these pickup diesels, I can't imagine anything standing up.
Big rigs in disguise? needing a cdl? Bullshit! I think you people at your magazine just wasted their time. Who in the hell told you you needed a cdl to drive one? All three trucks seemed to work great. I think it is just a matter of who wants to drive what brand and how they drive it, But until we see the data for ourselves, We can just assume your test has flaws.
@The5150Clown i actually know a guy who has his own hauling company.he drives a 3500hd chevy and hauls stell tubing and he is required by the state of ohio to posess a class A cdl because he tows over 20,000lbs. no joke. i think its stupid myself but it is true.
@ohiochevyboy84 Probably has to have it because of the trailer. Because if he was hauling it on a flatbed truck, you can haul up to 24,000 with a regular class C, then if you haul over that you need a class B, hook on a trailer a class A and only because he is a commercial business. A farmer pulling a trailer load of bales or whatever don't need a class A.
Have all people have forgotten why you purchase a vehicle? its what suits you. Not "how fast do they go in a quarter mile?" WHAT THE FUCK! who cares how fast you haul something?
Why didn't they at least go to Leadville, Colorado? It's the highest city in the US with plenty of passes exceeding 12.5-13K. We have testing up there year around from the military and various others...just sayin...
Ford is the best from my point of view. An F450 rated at 24400 pounds can pull a 200,000 pound train. This is no lie or joke i watched it on American top gear. So if you work for the railroad you can save your boss millions by using your truck as a locomotive
He said you would never notice the dodges defficient power level unless you were racing the other two trucks(5:42).....Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Someone please tell me why you love cummins again?????? I dont see a "1" in any of those categories for dodge and this was done by diesel power, the guys who constantly suck dodges wang....
@liveloud666 its not about stock hp with a cummins. its the relentless shit you can throw at them and run 900 hp with stock bottom end. i wouldent care if dodge still has 295 and 550 foot pounds because is not about stock power. yes i love all the brands so dont beak me. yes i give it to ford and chevy for haveing more power. but i rather have something thats proven and less moveing parts. plus i like how the cummins revs lower and just nice to tow with.
before all of the EPA regulations, these trucks wouldve been capable of producing up to 20 MPG. My friend has an '01 F250 7.3l powerstroke, and after putting propane on it, he is getting 25 MPG highway. DOWN WITH THE EPA! lol
WTF? "It takes 400hp, not 800lb.ft of torque to do a test like this." Man has never said a more stupid sentence in there life. This queer narrator needs to get an other job with his Prius..
how does it take 400hp and NOT 800flbs of torque to go up a hill?? lol raggin on dodge and bringin ford up...... like always the dodge 6.7 has 800 and the 6.7 HO has 875... stop raggin on dodge, thier the most commercialy advanced trucks out there.. chevys nxt then DEAD last ford...
@Marshmallow250f How do you explain dodge losing all these tests that are not related, like this one, or the youtube HD vs HD where they let the dodge go after a few tests becaue it wasnt even competitive? 15 years ago i might have believed you Bluetec boy. Ten years ago you could have said something about Ford but not now, thats plain silly. Even if the dodges HP could stand up to the others, the dodge still isnt a total package
@liveloud666 well theres not much to explain really, dodges arnt horrible trucks, yes ford has power but it still isnt in a fully boxed frame, chevy and dodge are, then from them two chevy has tht amazing allison trans,but not as much power as the dodge or ford. dodge has the power, durability, longevity, and strength you need in a work truck. its not the HP tht matters its the tourqe. bluetec? nope.. i have a (04.5) 2500 with a series 600 5.9 HO cummins., a (96) 24v 3500 and a (05) ram 1500 5.7
@liveloud666 its funny how they dident show the dodge in the outher tests? if dodge wasent competitive and i was the guy runing the chevy show id want that dodge to look bad and show it loose all the outher tests. but they dident show it because it was right there with chevy. in the frame strengh test and engine breaking is some of the tests they never showed dodge in. i know for fact dodge has a stronger frame then ford
The only (and Very Relevant) Test that is Left out of The KING OF THE HILL Test is HOW WELL THEY CRASH...they are Very Heavy Vehicles Even Unloaded... and How They Crumple When Loaded ? .... well, See That's what we Really Want to Know. it would be a Real Feather in their Cap, if The Next KING OF THE HILL test had some Plane Jane DONOR TRUCKS from The BIG 3 for a Crash test IF YA'LL CAN HANDLE IT.... Lets See if the Boys have a Big Enough Set of globes to Pull IT Off, NEXT TEST..... ?
@dragracer3 actually the Chevy beat it in 0 to 55, exhaust brake, transmission, and king of the hill. In the big scheme of things the Chevy won. Truth hurts, get your facts straight.
guys , all these people who bout ford better that these new chevy is people who like ford , ok , these aint straight forward people , cause there alot of ford fans who aint gone let there brand loose, in the breaking test how dodge and ford is the only 2 trucks that jump in the breaking but the gmc aint self shake , look at it good ,
It would be interesting if they took off all the emissions bs maybe even installed programmers and then did these tests. Without the emissions I think it would be close between the Dodge and Chevy from what I have read on the Diesel truck websites. One thing is certain though, the cummins will outlast the Powerstroke and Duramax, it's built a lot more commercially oriented, practically indesputable.
and that guy is lieing because they did not have to get no cdl to drive those trucks at all. a regular drivers license is all thats needed
@dragracer3 no not at all the exhaust break is not really important. ford beat the others hands down i think. because fords superuty is the best all around diesel heavyduty truck period. i love fords superduty diesel trucks.cant go wrong with a superduty truck
@Fordman903 90% of places you do. Here in Ontario you need to have an A (CDL) license to tow anything over 4600kg (10000lbs) or a GCWR of 11,000kg (24,000lbs). Its a good idea too....
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You see this the kind of testing I like. One that doesn't glorify one and the others look like shit. Dodge would be better if the tranny wasn't shitty. Am I right?
I will say that I would take any of those trucks but I LOVE my 2003 F-350...great truck, more power than Ill ever use and solid as a rock (not to steal Cheverolet's slogan "like a rock")
This is odd. Their magazine test of the 2500's show different results with the big three. You wouldn't think the results would be that different. For example dodge was rated as having the best exhaust brake and here the gmc was shown as the best in that specific area.
after watching like every type of comparison ive realized.. none of em are right or mean anything, just get what u like, i love dodge/cummins... aways will i think its much better plus its a i6 witch meanss soooo much.
Do all those tests 200k from now. I GUARANTEE the Cummins will not only be more consistent but dominate. Thats the difference between the Cummins and the other two v8 diesels, that inline six will last WAY longer than the ps and the dmax. Like David Kennedy said though, I as well would take any of the three trucks, their all still bad ass trucks to me too.
@d5109 yea true maybe the motor but i gurantee the stroker be right there with u as ford always has been and lets see how many transmissions dodges go threw in 200k. oh we anit talking that cause that changes everything
Wouldn't mind owning any of the three but my preference is the Duramax. I'll stick with my 2005 Chebbie Dmax dually cuz it's low mileage and paid for. If I could get a good resale or trade in I'd think hard about finding a low mileage 2011 GM. I do like what Dodge has done with the styling both inside and out plus the Cummins is a great mill. Not keen on the Ford design but that could always change and maybe the Scorpion will prove to be like the 7.3 and a great engine as well. DIESEL POWER!!!
6806goats1 4 hours ago
real trucks have 3 pedals
mastersniper13 1 day ago
If dodge would have kept the 5.9 and not gone to the 6.7 they would have won !
656200 2 days ago
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cam509 2 days ago
the narrator needs to realize and understand that he doesn't have Barry White's voice. Oh wait, I just realized what he is trying to do: FEMALE CREAK!!!
cam509 2 days ago
I don't know why everyone hates on Dodge..
You have no problems talking shit about them, but when it comes down to the engineering that goes into all of these beasts, I don't think any of us could even come close to making anything just as good.
So if you wanna trash talk, build one, then we'll see.
uMadBroBro 3 days ago 2
just a nother i love ford video.shit fuckers
cadillackman 5 days ago
@cadillackman Or ford is better just saying. Man i would take any of these trucks over a toyota as long as its domestic
Ranger0024 4 days ago
@cadillackman The G.M.C. won in the end.
cadrolls 2 days ago
I've always like General Motors more then sheet metal, spit, and gum(ford and dodge are those things) :-)
offroadlawnmowerdude 5 days ago
id go with dodge. i gave one myself. i had a 2000 f-250. loved it but it had alot of turbo lag, the dadge has more torque in my opinion when i hauled my fifth-wheel and not as bad of turbo lag. my opinion.
jfreakgaming13 1 week ago
@jfreakgaming13 *have *dodge
jfreakgaming13 1 week ago
GMC? throw a chevy in there... And every brand is going to be closely contested, not one noticeably better truck, pretty much come downs to looks
cleemeyer1 1 week ago
@FanIcedEarth true that, the cummins i have never seen a prob with...dodge needs to upgrade their auto tranny though
thehondafoxrider 1 week ago
FORD!!!!!
MoUnTiAnDeW4life 1 week ago
Why isn't chevy in here?
942doc1 1 week ago
@942doc1 gmc is the same thing is why
sublimedward 1 week ago
i think yall full of shit
forrdmannn 1 week ago
It looks like most dodge fans must be steeler fans to... lots of cryin and whining.
8213NATE 1 week ago
I'd Rather be Cummin Than Strokin!
FanIcedEarth 1 week ago
dodge the father ram the daughter
michiganmudfreaks 1 week ago 8
Give me a stick shift in a RAM HD 3500 Crew Cab and I'll see you in 20 years for an Over- Haul of both the clutch and engine for another 2 Million miles on the Road! I'll leave the bickering for the masses.. I've got work to do!
Aonexia 1 week ago
who gives a shit about brakes IF YOU CAN'T DODGE IT RAM IT!!!
FanIcedEarth 1 week ago
NOTICE THE DODGE HAS IT HOOD OPEN IN THE BEGINNING BECAUSE ITS SHOWING OFF WHAT IT HAS UNDER THE HOOD AND WHAT THE CHEVY AND FORD LACK!!!!!
FanIcedEarth 1 week ago
@FanIcedEarth lol, good try... they were probably fixing somthing in there cause the dodge always breaks :p
thehondafoxrider 1 week ago
@thehondafoxrider LOL!! i was totally waiting for someone to say that!!! :D you get the turtle wax..... nahh but with the trucks and stuff it comes down to opinion... my uncle has a 2012 dodge cummins 24 valve heavy duty twin turbo 6 speed manual transmmittion and it has no issues :)
FanIcedEarth 1 week ago
yeah power and all of that but i think the cummins lives for ever all the ford i know brack out same with gmc
eeeeee65 2 weeks ago
What about fuel economy and price
manuelvic187 2 weeks ago
loks like dodge sucked ass...
genisxxx 2 weeks ago
@nicegmctruck: I also have to ask really? I thought the CR Cummins was good? The 5.9 24v is by far the best Cummins, but the new CR was designed around that platform right? The only thing bad I heard about the new ram hd's, are the automatic tranny's, but then again, I don't work at a dodge dealer. But that's a bit surprising...
uaboy6 2 weeks ago
@mannwhosoldtheworld: Are you really going to compare these trucks to a Pete? That's not fair. That kind of truck is in a whole different field. If your going to compare a Pete, compare it to International, Kenworth, ect... When I used to drive Semi's, the company only had Kenworth's and it merged into traffic a lot faster than what you stated, and that's pulling a full 40. I know for a fact, Pete's aren't that slow, no matter what you're pulling.
uaboy6 2 weeks ago
Dodge is better than the other 2 POS
MrJakediesel 2 weeks ago
Not really. There's some highly knowledgeable individuals in this world when it comes to certain subjects etc.
tyrone121285 2 weeks ago
@433222G Yeah I test drove an 06 king ranch once. It was a nice truck save for the price tag.
tyrone121285 2 weeks ago
@433222G Cool. I'll send you a pick of the ram tomorrow.
tyrone121285 2 weeks ago
@433222G I understand everyone's got there own preference of truck. We've been running that truck since 06 with no problems. I had to put o-rings on the injectors once when it was sucking all the oil out of the engine into the tank but other than that no problems. We also had a chevy rollback once. I had no complaints out of that truck except that it was MAJOR gas hog.
tyrone121285 2 weeks ago
@433222G Yeah lol. I'll try to send one. I gotta put another governor in the tranny now though it's not shifting properly from 1st-2nd. Thank god for our 96 f-450 rollback that things a work horse.
tyrone121285 2 weeks ago
@433222G Yeah I pull cars and scrap metal with our 04 ram. I think the most I've ever pulled behind that truck was just over 21000lbs.
tyrone121285 2 weeks ago
@433222G As long as your combination weight on your truck and trailer axles doesn't exceed 26000 your golden. Unless your pulling like 3 suburbans with a wedge trailer or steel you will never pull anything that heavy with any of these trucks.
tyrone121285 2 weeks ago
ill never buy another GMC GOVERNMENT MOTORS CORP...... KNOW IT!
762submoa 3 weeks ago
Cummins may come in last when drag racing with a loaded trailer, but it's the one you KNOW you will be driving past 500,000 km with no major failures. Can't say the same for the other 2
mannwhosoldtheworld 3 weeks ago
@mannwhosoldtheworld yeah the 5.9 was great, but the 6.7 is a pos. I work at a dodge dealer, we have seen plenty 6.7's with internal damage.
nicegmctruck 2 weeks ago
@nicegmctruck Really? That surprises me quite a bit, I expected damage involving the EPA systems, not the motor itself. The more you know.
mannwhosoldtheworld 2 weeks ago
6.7 cummins is six and the two others is 8
eagles293 3 weeks ago
A race? Really? People don't buy these trucks to race. Dodge ftw!
RorHemi 3 weeks ago
Scr in my opinion gives you shittier mpg cause you having to push that exhaust through more shit causeing more back pressure.. the more free flowing your exhaust is the better fuel milage your gonna get. It's the same with dpf's but with dpf its not nearly as complicated and near as a cluster fuck as scr is. But you can thank our gov for the emission shit even though diesel is one of the more clean burning fuels out there.
minncountryboy 3 weeks ago
Here's some food for thought. There's usually three things that come into play on pulling power speed. 1 engine and turbo. 2 Tranny. 3 rear end ratio. The higher the ratio the more its gonna pull. The lower the ratio the faster its gonna go on lower rpms giving you better mpg. That's the way it is on big rigs anyhow. Most semi's out there are running a 3.55 rear end ratio giving you the best pulling gear without sacrificing a shit ton of mpg. And for the whole dpf scr debate.
minncountryboy 3 weeks ago
6.6L Duramax rules.
6.7L Powerstroke is on 'Max's ass.
6.7L Cummins...wait, where the hell is it? It's so far behind I can't see it.
FEEDtheMACH1NE 3 weeks ago
stock, all three trucks are great. Now when it comes to the tried and true, highly modifiable, I think I'll be sitting in the ram.
SampsonGizmo 3 weeks ago
i'm sorry but guys i need a work truck dont care how it rides want to pull, stop and go and somthing i can beat up.Big all the new looks and nice sits i dont want to get dirty
7654321rebecca 4 weeks ago
All dodge has going for it is a good motor. Besides the motor the dodge is just one big boat anchor.
davidt6789 4 weeks ago
Ford won this for sure. best mpg, runs flat out under a load better, a nice ride quality, and good looks. This is coming from a 6.7l 08' ram owner
wignigeater 1 month ago
Ford and Chevy both use DEF for the SCR Dodge does not which in turn allows the Duramax and Powerstroke to turn more hp while maintaining low enough emissions. Another thing to keep in mind is that Dodge transmissions are still not up to par where as the Allison and Torque Shift are outstanding. You loose alot of power in a tranny. Cummins needs to switch to a better SCR system to allow for more hp and Dodge needs to crap or get off the pot and build a tranny that's gonna transfer the most power
MrNismopro 1 month ago
This about the fifth comparison I've seen among these three trucks, and the Dodge has always come last. Why? Everyone talks a great story of Cummins but in every towing test, they always come last. I'm not suggesting it's a bad truck, but perhaps Dodge has to do more than just an interior and exterior overhaul to remain competative with Ford and GM. I know it has sufficient power and torque, but you know how gear heads think ...
lariatfx 1 month ago
@lariatfx or may its because cummins builds "inline 6 engines" which still has a shit load of power but.... the cummins is also competing against fords "V8" and chevys "V8" hense the V8.. of course its going to beat the 6 cylinder engine... thats like putting a SXT challenger against the STR8 challenger.. just saying
mahnkecummins 1 month ago
@mahnkecummins Let me be clear: I'm not bad-mouthing the Ram HD. I'm just a consumer who's had to buy a heavy duty truck and has done his research before making a final decision, which I have. In all these demos, Ram is ALWAYS last. In doing my research, I have herd the following about the Ram HD: "least powerful," "worst fuel economy," "least capable," "out-classed," "last place," "lowest GVWR," "fewer options." These are not things that would sell me a Ram HD.
lariatfx 1 month ago
@mahnkecummins
That's not a valid argument. Inline engines have many advantages over "V" configuration engines. The Dodge Cummins still gets worse fuel economy here and this is something that puzzles me
Here's some food for thought: the next time a semi passes you on the highway, know that just about all of them use inline 6 cylinder engines. Mack, Cat, Volvo, Cummmins, international, etc. - they build mostly inline 6 cylinder engines for many reasons, but they're all beasts.
HorsepowerAddiction 1 month ago
@HorsepowerAddiction it shouldn't really "puzzle" you why the RAM HD Cummins gets the worst fuel economy. It's the only HD truck among the "Big Three" that hasn't switched over to Selective Catalyst Reduction (SCR). As a result, it relies on the "old" DPF system which worsens the fuel eceonomy. Why Dodge has yet to implement SCR in its 2500-3500-while it is used in its 4500-trucks is an absolute mystery to me, and is a major contributing factor to its bad fuel economy.
lariatfx 3 weeks ago
@mahnkecummins they have dodge and ford have 800lbs feet of torqe but less horses
21babydew 4 weeks ago
@21babydew dodge has less horses than ford and lariatfx is right
21babydew 4 weeks ago
Well Bottom Line Here People... Gmc Looks Like The King Of The HILL
billylo2010 1 month ago
this has to be the lamest comparison i have ever seen....Top Gear USA had a much better comparo....this host is a drone...ugh
fast89iroc 1 month ago
How about testing the better dodge... the one with the 6 speed... that's right the only one with a manual.
billyjack70 1 month ago
hell yeah Chevy wins again =D
juan12361skyline 1 month ago
u people are stupid the dodge lost cuz it sucks get a grip. ford the best never rest
kohsman313 1 month ago
if this test was accurate, the dodge would tear all of them apart, i seem tho think these people were ford lovers, i thought this was a ford commercial by the end of it, holy shit, get a grip people!!!!!!!
wyattjwood 1 month ago
I don't think Dodge would get last place in the longevity test!!
Dodgeram591 1 month ago
DODGE!!!!!!!!!!! GUTS GLORY RAM
FanIcedEarth 1 month ago 23
@FanIcedEarth yeah dodge rocks!
2488viper 2 weeks ago
I would take the Ford over the Gmc and Dodge anyday
pumpkinman3211 1 month ago
@dsexcavating13 well I like it and that's all that I care about. it looks like a badass transformerr.
Cjrm3gtr 1 month ago
QUOTE:"Takes horsepower NOT torque too win a race like this" ROFLMAO....
Tap Tap Tap HELLO do you even understand engines/Horsepower and torque LOL
Horsepower sells cars
TORQUE wins races fool
PERIOD.
brylyn23 1 month ago
@brylyn23 HP is just a number... but a very important one. Basically it is how fast you can produce that "winning torque". In other words how high in the rpm band can you produce significant torque. hp= (torque * rpm)/5252 ... pay attention to the numerator.
billyjack70 1 month ago
@billyjack70 Well i dont wunna be high in the RPM band too get my torque, the lower i can produce maxium torque i'll blow your ride of the road,while your reving the snot out of yours to get that max torque.
brylyn23 1 month ago
@brylyn23 Why would you try to race me with a tractor? Or a cargo ship?
billyjack70 1 month ago
@billyjack70 well dont you try and race me in your detroit lol.
Revs only gives you legs thats all.
brylyn23 1 month ago
@brylyn23 More power means more work can be done quicker. An electric motor makes peak torque at 0rpm. Which means you can probably move something really heavy... but you won't do much of anything fast.
billyjack70 1 month ago
chevy will always be king of the hill !!
hugger97z 1 month ago
Soiche Dögun braucht koa Sau. Es hobts jo echt an Schottn in da Kaunzl. Regts eich üba hoche Dieselpreise auf (!- do kau ma jo nua lochn), am liabstn wa eng jo a elöündiga Benzina in de Dögün. An Poscha hobts, reissts eng zaum und passts eng so wia da rest va da Wöd den Gegebenheiten au. I bin jo a recht a Fen va engare Dögün va de Sechzga- und siebzgajoa, total klasse Sachün woan de Kistna, oba heit is der übadimensoniate Übefluss do scho a weng föh am Plotz. Zefix!
Bruningable 1 month ago
@mrwhamisrick: you do need a cdl once you past 25,000lbs gvw... Anything thing under that, you don't need a cdl. They're pulling 19,000 plus pounds with a 6,000 plus pound truck. If I'm not mistaken, a class B would be good enough.
uaboy6 1 month ago
So what they are saying is that the Ford and GMC's you don't feel the imperfections on the road. Mas puto! Everyone knows it is built RAM TOUGH! If you wanna see a real comparison look at the truck pulls. Old fords and Chevys are good but not the new ones. My Jeep could kick the ford and GMC's ass! GMCs and Fords went down hill in 2009!
Hickspanic423 1 month ago
Ford does look better...
Cjrm3gtr 1 month ago
@Cjrm3gtr the new front of the ford is ugly as fuck
dsexcavating13 1 month ago
Well you do not need a CDL to drive any of these trucks unless you are a business and the truck is for hire. Also it is torque not horsepower that you want for climbing. The more torque the better you can hold your speed while climbing.
mrwhamisrick 1 month ago
thats chevy, gmc for ya! GET A CHEVY!! :D thats all what is on my farm hauling 744 bushel wagons!
johndeereboys1 1 month ago
GMC All The Way!
TreeThunder 1 month ago
@ohforfacksake: Most people don't understand the whole thing about the quarter mile and a diesel dually. I'll tell you. First of all that test is actually two tests...quarter mile and 0-55. When pulling a load of over 9 tons...these trucks need to be able to merge on to a highway or freeway with ease. 0-55 let's you see how you would get to the average speed limit while hauling. Those tests are not race tests...they're practicality tests.
uaboy6 1 month ago 2
@uaboy6 Practicallity? Still a non issue. My peterbilt takes about a minute to a minute and a half to get on the freeway, depending on my starting speed and my load, and I never seem to have an issue.
mannwhosoldtheworld 2 weeks ago
DURACRAP
Pitcrew55 1 month ago
I'd like to know what kind of a dumb ass buys a 1 ton dually based on a fucking quarter mile? I'd buy a 1 ton dually based on which one will be the most durable to a quarter million+ miles!
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at the start i thought that ford was gonna win because they seemed to be their favorite
1chevroletcorvette 1 month ago
rather bring the trucks to the dyno see what comes out better! ford<3
THEACDC1995 1 month ago
@THEACDC1995 ford fag
1chevroletcorvette 1 month ago
I like this. It's not biased, from what I can tell, not one truck won all of the competitions.
JustJoshinY 1 month ago
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marygott66 1 month ago
Just Rember "DODGE" Chanced The Rules NO OTHER.. Mopar or NO Car!
marygott66 1 month ago
What the heck is that guy talking about u don't need a cdl to drive any of these trucks. The trailers they were towing had to do with them requiring cdl. Also anyone who's ever felt 2000Ib-ft of torque knows 800 ain't in the same stratosphere.
tyrone121285 1 month ago 6
big rigs my ass hhahahaha 800lb/ft aint that much it really isnt not like a big rig. most big rigs put out 1700lb-ft to 2150lb/ft 475to 625hp
super87cole 1 month ago
why dont they ever do a real pulling test hook up a 30ft goosneck with 15 1800lbs hay bales iv yet to see any pickup keep up with a 350hp semi!! or any big rig in disguise haha do any or much better then my old Ford!!!!!!!
ford460efi 1 month ago
Colorado baby!!!!!!!!!!!!
famousvlcm22 1 month ago
Remember boys and girls, finance it for 7years, get a cosigner, and drive with your FOG lights on at 80mph.
dogbone3000 1 month ago
The fords hideous! Love the other two trucks for style frames and power though.
Zh1tube 1 month ago
My 1990 ford f250 with the 460 would of taken all 3 of them no problem!!!!!!!!!!
ford460efi 1 month ago
@ford460efi Yeah, sure it will. Not if it's stock it won't.
sokodad 1 month ago
@sokodad Bord .30 over 5spd k&n filter! I sure they beat me in mpg haha!!! though worst iv got pulling 20000lbs is 6mpg
ford460efi 1 month ago
@ford460efi My brother in law has a 96 F250 with a 460. Yeah, it's a beast and pulls like crazy. I just don't think it would out pull a diesel in the mountains. Especially that year. Trucks, engine wise, have gotten better then back then. That 460 just don't have the torque. Maybe yours does since it's been worked over, but stock never would. Kind of rare to have a 5 speed in yours. Most had that E4OD Ford automatic.
sokodad 1 month ago
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ford460efi 1 month ago
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@sokodad Im guessing I have around 250 hp 400 torque I know the 5spd makes big differents compared to the auto the auto tranny takes allot torque away!!!!!! My neighbor has a mid 2000s dodge cummins rated over 300 hp and i can stay right with him and out pull him on the hills And the powerstrokes i can walk all over them unless they chipped!!!! Im not impressed with there big horsepower and torque clames! but if could pick id go with this new ford just hope this motor can last 500000
ford460efi 1 month ago
did ford pay you money?
alekslav84 1 month ago
im a gm guy through in through, but when it comes to diesels i would get a dodge. even if it did rank 3rd u gotta compare reliability... and when it comes down to it cummins will last a million miles where a ford is a ticking time bomb around 300,000km, i like the looks of the ford trucks but i would be too scared to buy something that expensive when they still haven't made a proven long lasting diesel engine.
chevyguy427ss 2 months ago
@chevyguy427ss Not sure how the new Ford diesel is, but the old 7.3 was good easily for a half a million miles. It's all in how well you take care of them and if you run the shit out of them or not. Maintenance and care or lack of will determine any engine or vehicles longevity. The way they're stretching the limits of these pickup diesels, I can't imagine anything standing up.
sokodad 1 month ago
i love me my dodge :)
kowal789 2 months ago
Big rigs in disguise? needing a cdl? Bullshit! I think you people at your magazine just wasted their time. Who in the hell told you you needed a cdl to drive one? All three trucks seemed to work great. I think it is just a matter of who wants to drive what brand and how they drive it, But until we see the data for ourselves, We can just assume your test has flaws.
The5150Clown 2 months ago
@The5150Clown i actually know a guy who has his own hauling company.he drives a 3500hd chevy and hauls stell tubing and he is required by the state of ohio to posess a class A cdl because he tows over 20,000lbs. no joke. i think its stupid myself but it is true.
ohiochevyboy84 1 month ago
@ohiochevyboy84 I like the body style on those chevy trucks
The5150Clown 1 month ago
@ohiochevyboy84 Probably has to have it because of the trailer. Because if he was hauling it on a flatbed truck, you can haul up to 24,000 with a regular class C, then if you haul over that you need a class B, hook on a trailer a class A and only because he is a commercial business. A farmer pulling a trailer load of bales or whatever don't need a class A.
sokodad 1 month ago
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The5150Clown 2 months ago
ford 2nd but looks the best for 4 life there the best
4ord4life 2 months ago
@BumbleBeeGS ford didn't win...
sledforpeace 2 months ago
@BumbleBeeGS that's because GM did a great JOB!
sledforpeace 2 months ago
Have all people have forgotten why you purchase a vehicle? its what suits you. Not "how fast do they go in a quarter mile?" WHAT THE FUCK! who cares how fast you haul something?
chalifouxhunter 2 months ago
Big rigs in disguise, needing CDL's...LOL
F350JOHN 2 months ago
@F350JOHN The need of cdl was a bit of a lie
The5150Clown 2 months ago
Why didn't they at least go to Leadville, Colorado? It's the highest city in the US with plenty of passes exceeding 12.5-13K. We have testing up there year around from the military and various others...just sayin...
F350JOHN 2 months ago
its funny how everyone has comebacks why the other tuck would these guys arn't on anyones side gmc won fair and fucking square
531polaris 2 months ago
Ford is the best from my point of view. An F450 rated at 24400 pounds can pull a 200,000 pound train. This is no lie or joke i watched it on American top gear. So if you work for the railroad you can save your boss millions by using your truck as a locomotive
PetarVN 2 months ago
He said you would never notice the dodges defficient power level unless you were racing the other two trucks(5:42).....Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Someone please tell me why you love cummins again?????? I dont see a "1" in any of those categories for dodge and this was done by diesel power, the guys who constantly suck dodges wang....
liveloud666 2 months ago
@liveloud666 its not about stock hp with a cummins. its the relentless shit you can throw at them and run 900 hp with stock bottom end. i wouldent care if dodge still has 295 and 550 foot pounds because is not about stock power. yes i love all the brands so dont beak me. yes i give it to ford and chevy for haveing more power. but i rather have something thats proven and less moveing parts. plus i like how the cummins revs lower and just nice to tow with.
RM250D8rzr 2 months ago
should do a comparison of 3/4 ton reg. cabs
TheSeanT99 2 months ago
idk this guy sounds retarded...
lavamanbearpig 2 months ago
"longevity" is missing here. This is where the Cummins shines. Also "whom ever spends the most amount of advertising at DPM WINS!
LastWillandTesticle 2 months ago
@dragracer3 your cookd it beat it 4 otherhings too
531polaris 2 months ago
before all of the EPA regulations, these trucks wouldve been capable of producing up to 20 MPG. My friend has an '01 F250 7.3l powerstroke, and after putting propane on it, he is getting 25 MPG highway. DOWN WITH THE EPA! lol
spaatzbound 2 months ago
WTF? "It takes 400hp, not 800lb.ft of torque to do a test like this." Man has never said a more stupid sentence in there life. This queer narrator needs to get an other job with his Prius..
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@strumem90 thank you!!!
Marshmallow250f 2 months ago
how does it take 400hp and NOT 800flbs of torque to go up a hill?? lol raggin on dodge and bringin ford up...... like always the dodge 6.7 has 800 and the 6.7 HO has 875... stop raggin on dodge, thier the most commercialy advanced trucks out there.. chevys nxt then DEAD last ford...
Marshmallow250f 2 months ago
@Marshmallow250f LOL....Normal 6.7 is 650lb.ft and the H.O is 800lb.ft bud...
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@Marshmallow250f How do you explain dodge losing all these tests that are not related, like this one, or the youtube HD vs HD where they let the dodge go after a few tests becaue it wasnt even competitive? 15 years ago i might have believed you Bluetec boy. Ten years ago you could have said something about Ford but not now, thats plain silly. Even if the dodges HP could stand up to the others, the dodge still isnt a total package
liveloud666 2 months ago
@liveloud666 well theres not much to explain really, dodges arnt horrible trucks, yes ford has power but it still isnt in a fully boxed frame, chevy and dodge are, then from them two chevy has tht amazing allison trans,but not as much power as the dodge or ford. dodge has the power, durability, longevity, and strength you need in a work truck. its not the HP tht matters its the tourqe. bluetec? nope.. i have a (04.5) 2500 with a series 600 5.9 HO cummins., a (96) 24v 3500 and a (05) ram 1500 5.7
Marshmallow250f 2 months ago
@liveloud666 its funny how they dident show the dodge in the outher tests? if dodge wasent competitive and i was the guy runing the chevy show id want that dodge to look bad and show it loose all the outher tests. but they dident show it because it was right there with chevy. in the frame strengh test and engine breaking is some of the tests they never showed dodge in. i know for fact dodge has a stronger frame then ford
RM250D8rzr 2 months ago
@RM250D8rzr YUP AND I PAYED FOR IT WITH MY TAX MONEY
Pitcrew55 1 month ago
I recognized multiple shots of I-70 between Denver and Aspen, beautiful part of the country.
srcej6 2 months ago
The only (and Very Relevant) Test that is Left out of The KING OF THE HILL Test is HOW WELL THEY CRASH...they are Very Heavy Vehicles Even Unloaded... and How They Crumple When Loaded ? .... well, See That's what we Really Want to Know. it would be a Real Feather in their Cap, if The Next KING OF THE HILL test had some Plane Jane DONOR TRUCKS from The BIG 3 for a Crash test IF YA'LL CAN HANDLE IT.... Lets See if the Boys have a Big Enough Set of globes to Pull IT Off, NEXT TEST..... ?
walkingeagle069 2 months ago
I think Ford and Chevy's are both really great trucks. Dodge on the other hand, never should have though about building a truck..
TheHondadirtbiker 2 months ago
@dragracer3 actually the Chevy beat it in 0 to 55, exhaust brake, transmission, and king of the hill. In the big scheme of things the Chevy won. Truth hurts, get your facts straight.
burtonbordr23 2 months ago
guys , all these people who bout ford better that these new chevy is people who like ford , ok , these aint straight forward people , cause there alot of ford fans who aint gone let there brand loose, in the breaking test how dodge and ford is the only 2 trucks that jump in the breaking but the gmc aint self shake , look at it good ,
alphisutha1991 2 months ago
It would be interesting if they took off all the emissions bs maybe even installed programmers and then did these tests. Without the emissions I think it would be close between the Dodge and Chevy from what I have read on the Diesel truck websites. One thing is certain though, the cummins will outlast the Powerstroke and Duramax, it's built a lot more commercially oriented, practically indesputable.
Spywell 2 months ago
give em a week in mexico and lets see which one is the best
transamoso 2 months ago
Wow, i never would have thought people would get pissed about this *sarcasim*
I dont see what everyone has against the D-max
tractorboy96 3 months ago
and that guy is lieing because they did not have to get no cdl to drive those trucks at all. a regular drivers license is all thats needed
@dragracer3 no not at all the exhaust break is not really important. ford beat the others hands down i think. because fords superuty is the best all around diesel heavyduty truck period. i love fords superduty diesel trucks.cant go wrong with a superduty truck
Fordman903 3 months ago
@Fordman903 90% of places you do. Here in Ontario you need to have an A (CDL) license to tow anything over 4600kg (10000lbs) or a GCWR of 11,000kg (24,000lbs). Its a good idea too....
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Fordman903 3 months ago
I sell Propane
BlueSnech 3 months ago
Bull shit. Ford had this challenge. Hook them up to 22000 lbs and see who wins
DilleymanF250 3 months ago
Check out how much the weak ass suspensions in the GMC and Dodge rebound in the braking test. The Ford barely wiggles.
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WRANGLER359 3 months ago
"Big rigs in disguise" LOL Not even close.
hopper1 3 months ago 8
You see this the kind of testing I like. One that doesn't glorify one and the others look like shit. Dodge would be better if the tranny wasn't shitty. Am I right?
jedwilson95 3 months ago
I will say that I would take any of those trucks but I LOVE my 2003 F-350...great truck, more power than Ill ever use and solid as a rock (not to steal Cheverolet's slogan "like a rock")
afmikeg777 4 months ago
This is odd. Their magazine test of the 2500's show different results with the big three. You wouldn't think the results would be that different. For example dodge was rated as having the best exhaust brake and here the gmc was shown as the best in that specific area.
Dieselnut216 4 months ago
after watching like every type of comparison ive realized.. none of em are right or mean anything, just get what u like, i love dodge/cummins... aways will i think its much better plus its a i6 witch meanss soooo much.
Mattman7342 4 months ago
@Mattman7342 But you get the worst fuel economy using that I6
89NAYG 4 months ago in playlist 89NAYG's favorites
@89NAYG well i cant say for the new ones but my 01 and 99 get 23 avg, id say u take alot of bs stuff out and u gain alot of mpg back
Mattman7342 4 months ago
Do all those tests 200k from now. I GUARANTEE the Cummins will not only be more consistent but dominate. Thats the difference between the Cummins and the other two v8 diesels, that inline six will last WAY longer than the ps and the dmax. Like David Kennedy said though, I as well would take any of the three trucks, their all still bad ass trucks to me too.
d5109 4 months ago
@d5109 yea true maybe the motor but i gurantee the stroker be right there with u as ford always has been and lets see how many transmissions dodges go threw in 200k. oh we anit talking that cause that changes everything
MrBrockberg 4 months ago
@d5109 the cummins may last, but that dodge transmission sure won't...
jonbar87 3 months ago
@jonbar87 YOU GOT THAT RIGHT OH AND THE BODY FIT AND FINISH SUCKS TO
Pitcrew55 1 month ago
@d5109 WRONG I HAVE A 2001 F350 873 GRAND AND STILL RUNS GREAT
Pitcrew55 1 month ago
@Pitcrew55 Good for you
d5109 1 month ago