Idk how he even died with that terrible damage. this is what I call damage. first I use a clean R1 bow then a R4 +20 bow, enjoy youtube.com/user/GhostRidahWhip#p/u/6/77kRAFonGLk
dude not to defend squonky and his noobishness but a good sin can pvp quite well. Unfortunately most sins can't pvp for crap.and hence the whole misconception that sins suck at pvp. And also i agree that the whole idea of a sin out tanking a knight is preposterous
DOKU you noob don't you know that you are supposed to be using an r1 bow against squonky. Your r4 bow is just useless against him man its like head butting a side walk. I mean what kind of idiot uses an r4 bow against a sin, that's just some kind of ludicrous right there. How do you sleep at night knowing that you cant even get a duel right you should be ashamed of your self. You have embarrassed all archers that play this game. You must have been dropped as a baby, because that was just stupid.
I dont know what's worse, squonky or the dipshits that DP with him and help him level. Seriously, dumbest fucking player in the entire game, needs a keyboard-muzzle and a permaban. Pull your head out of your ass. Nothing you have ever said, or will ever say will in any way be constructive, or at the very least CORRECT. Fail harder faggot.
You say except healer or dms... The healer is by far the easiest person to tank over in this game if you understand aggro. As for CMs yes they're extremely hard to tank over early on because of their skill power vs my power that's why they tone down their skills early on because their skills are overpowered early on. Later on, their skill power vs my tab f1 I could tank over them if I had the damage of devilking. God forbid I had crit swords as well because then it would really be on.
My current TAB F1 damage at level 101 is roughly without AI proc the way I built my sin without unity rings is 5,000+3,000+. With AI it turns into 5,000+3,000+5,000+3,000 + whatever buffs I got in as well from dark might shining weapon etc. which could lead I think the most I would see is like 360 and 190 so 720+380=another 1,000+ damage. So total damage in less than 1 second =17k at r5 level 101 I still not full jlvl I don't have any epic str in my build and my main hand is only +10.
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As for skills I use I only use 4-5 skills in a dp and I only use 4 in the field.
Are you ready?
APOC
Deadly Dancing
Dark Strike
if if if if I get a chance once in awhile I will use shadow rush OTHER THAN THAT I DON'T USE ANOTHER SKILL.
Now you wanna know how many skills I use per dp.
20+45+120=185 skills per hour that's all except I might get in a few shadow rushes but they're not really used all that often. *and of course this excludes buffing myself with ai, quick pace, and conc.
APOC which is at r5 over 60k aoe damage on 3 mobs each which in total 1 skill every 2 minutes is over 180,000+ DAMAGE YOU GONNA TANK OVER ME REALLY? YOU BETTER PREPARED BRO WITH A R7+ HAWK WITH INCREASED THREAT BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT THREAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING!
That's just r5 wait till I'm r6+ that same 180,000 will be over 250-300+k damage on 3 mobs. Then again you think by tab f1 I take away 25 with my off hand and I'm not even including shining weapon or dark might.
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Looking at 14x sin his damage main hand is 11k+ his off hand on crits = 6k+ total DAMAGE IS 17,000 WITHOUT AI! IF AI PROCS TAB F1=34,000 DAMAGE! Now combine that with support of gust, wl buffs, ancient gloves, the fastest speed of any character in this game, a +3 or better ai card, HP Regen from hits which means in 1 attack I could regen 10% of 34,000=3,400 HP PER ATTACK AND YOU'RE TELLING ME I CAN'T TANK? I tank over r5 evokers at level 90 bro without using a single skill. God forbid I use
OK, retard. If a class NEEDS buffs to do anything, it's fail, no ifs, ands or buts about it. Buffed, I can take out Skoll 125 [**] and walk out with around 33-50% HPs just with pots/groceries and a Hawk pet, no octo buff, so no, you're not that remarkable, you actually fail harder than 99% sins out there
First without buffs sins are the weakest character in this game, that's a fact. They have the weakest weapon, their skills have extremely long cooldowns and they rely on damage over time. Without buffs, the sin is hopeless. On any other class buffs don't mean as much as they do to the sin. Also please remember if you're a pet class you may not see the buffs you give to your pet but the sin has no additional buffs for their pet or for themself.
Having said that if you understood how a sin fights you'd be able to comprehend what a buff does.
Huna +Healer buffs gives the sin 355+ attack power x all of their belongings for example I use an orc belt xx6% + I have deco hat x1% plus I have temporary wings currently add another 4%. If I had a kenta belt it would look like this
(14%+1%+attack buff from pet+huna healer buff+4% x100%)x2 for chip then add (14%+1%+4%+pet buff+ huna healer buff x60%)x2 for chip
They're given the weakest weapon in this game because they attack so often and so fast that no one would be able to hold them back if they didn't have a good defense. Which is why they're given oblivion to use which decreases their damage by 10% in the form of threat. Even with that on a KNIGHT CAN'T HOLD ME BACK when I'm fully buffed unless they have some crits go their way in dealing some extraordinary amount of damage to the enemy/enemies. Sustainable holding of aggro over me is impossible
My main hand does like 125 damage x.6=75 that's the damage my off hand should do in pvp without a chip but that's not the way the game is set up. The damage my off hand does is 15 without a crit and 25 with a crit. My attack speed *the edge over everything in the field* doesn't get applied due to player rules. Can't use attack pots why the hell not? I gain an advantage over you. If you fight in a siege chips are legal, buffs are legal why not in pvp? You can't handle it?
My skills are multi hit skills as in they don't gain as much attack power a single skill does in other characters combined with the weakest weapon in the game my power isn't truly felt unless I have the buffs. In the field I out aggro you they can't change my skill set because I do unreal damage.
When I unleash a skill in the field and it does over 80k damage with a chip and full buffs how do you expect to survive it? That's my dark spiral but in pvp I might get lucky if it does 1,800
I don't know anyone in this game besides a CM that can out DD a sin with a full arsenal and built correctly. I've seen the damage from pet classes *pukes* I've seen the damage from WLs pukes and from archers. They don't pull over 80kx3 in 1 skill to follow it back up with 50k in less than 3 seconds and that's just at level 100 with a +10 weapon without the rec coming into effect or god forbid I had HV buffs because then I'd really rock you.
Finally you have to consider the last of the buffs. Things like dark might and shining weapon which gives the sin over 1,000 extra damage per hit in the field and its non negotiable. Its extra damage that isn't being applied in pvp but it does get applied in sieges even if chips aren't used because it doesn't go off of the defense. If you think it's = it's not. The sin attacks 2x and up to 4x per second which 160% x buffs and up to 320% per attack.
Finally the buffs I receive from the huna and the healer empower my sin to be over 60% STRONGER than I am without those buffs because of my low attack power.
It's like armor right. You don't throw a CM out there to hold aggro over 10 mobs because no matter if the cm adds +20 to every piece of gear the CM still doesn't have the defense of a knight. It's the same way in pvp even if I had +20 swords and you had a lvl 10 weapon at lvl 100+ you would take more away. It's that simple.
If you would like screen shots between the damage difference I'd be more than happy to show you in pvp and in the field with buffs and without buffs. Mind you no sin near my level or at my level can out dd me without unity rings or hv buffs because that's how powerful the sin is when built correctly. If they used unity rings they have the sin built correctly without them chances are they chose a different route.
I forgot to mention how without the WL/CM buffs combined with ancient gloves combined with attack speed pot=a faster attack speed than any combination any class has except for the SH. Faster attack speed allows me to hit very fast but it's only with buffs that you would feel the power of my off hand. Combined with dark might and shining weapon you'd really feel the power of a sin when you're running around for 15 seconds! Instead you hide behind player rules not game rules or stat increases.
VS me at SSK corner I couldn't handle the dark spiral or that many mobs on me because they're not all linked. Then again I don't like SSK corner. I don't feel that's a good spot to level for me as a sin. I love Takin DR. Simpler pulls, room is constant, and no knight needed. I can handle 3 mobs in DR without taking any damage throughout the entire DP I turn healers into DDs in that room because they aren't needed.
They can hold a bigger group of mobs than a sin unchained but a chained link on a good sin, the sin can act just like a knight. It's harder for them to do so, it might require some more healing but you'd have a faster kill. Unless there's a cm in the party. What I noticed from videos was that a CM can blast enemies with Dark Spiral in SSK corner because the CMs skill is soo high that it just obliterates the mobs. CM still gets aggro but not a lot of aggro left to get.
So as for aggro control I don't believe a knight is a great source of holding it. Now I will say that a R5 knight did hold aggro on Takin for me until he ran OOM which was like the last 15 seconds of the boss battle. This of course was with oblivion on and then I got aggro. Of course I don't have +20 gear, I only use rare str, and I didn't have wings or unity rings. I didn't have HV buffs, and I didn't have a str circlet.
While viewing videos I noticed knights do get hit for less
God forbid I used a skill like APOC with this knight because I would come SOOO CLOSE to dying because he would pull like 10 mobs maybe more. So now I don't get to use my strongest AOE, I get aggro following the chip at SSK corner with 4+ mobs hitting me at once which is too much for me to handle, and he wiped the party numerous times. The only time that I have ever wiped a party was wayyyyyyy back at Tara's room when I was r3 by accidentally hitting headbreaker and causing people to bring mobs
Someone said I needed to learn how to play???? Invincibility with a sin is learning how to play and how to do it.
Next about Knights. First I hardly ever dp with them, I find them useless. Second being a sin and dping at r2-r3 told knights are best for aggro control. Then I started out aggroing them at R4. I was told wait till R5. At R5 I watched a 110 knight go to SSK corner and wipe the dp close to 4x. I constantly had aggro following his chip with oblivion on. All I did TAB F1!
Squonky, either remove your wall-of-text or I'll do it for you.
The goal was not to see if I could beat you. I even told that R5 wouldn't save you from Doku back when you weren't even 90 yet.
You just don't make the cut Squonk, and that's the bottom line.
As for your rematch, you told me to go farm for a couple mins and you would PM me. After 10 mins, I went back to check and you were gone... Not only that, but you weren't even online anymore.
I signed back in within a few minutes. I kept writing on the main getting comments like Doku doesn't have time for you, you can't beat Takin, you suck squonk yadda yadda yadda. It went on for about 15 minutes straight or so with pms and writing on the whole chat. Just FYI I did return, I did look for a rematch and I still expect one.
funny how you name 3 types of mobs taht will eventually hurt you (betty,ashmaw,champ mobs) while you dont say takin/ssk and champmobs do min dmg to warrior classes with buffs.
The future of R6+= mobs like Takin/SSK will be soloed. I didn't say they would be soloed at level 100-101 but I haven't given up yet either. At R6 Takin/SSK can be soloed without hesitation with full buffs without HV buffs. It might be possible to solo Takin/SSK with HV buffs and maybe some side buffs as well. I haven't tried because I don't Pay to PLAY!
I lost duels to you I can't beat you I don't have the skills to beat you. Last WL I took on rashiv or whatever beat me. I was OOM a WL should be killed by OOM but he wasn't. When I say I don't have the skills I mean levels to beat your archer. By R5 stand by mofo.
In PVP, players have allowed themselves the ability to be invincible against others except in sieges. There is no use of chips, or buffs except your own buffs. The big problem with that is skills on certain classes don't have the power against other classes. Power isn't the result of skill cards, it's the result of the skill itself combined with a weak weapon. There is no infinite stun which in most games a sin has, and level based Evasion seems to be more pronounced than anything not stats.
Players have infused a system not based on the game but based on the idea that a class can always get the first stun, then use chips, then unleash their mightiest skill. That's the way the game was created. We aren't allowed to heal through pots but through pets and skills is cool though. PVP isn't broken but players make it broken.
Still even though I am invincible in the field, in pvp I'm not. The octo buff doesn't work that way unless I face a sin with a dagger who tabs f1 and me tab f1.
I never claimed to be invincible in pvp but I am not such a weakling when given the buffs that we all play with. Buffs create damage and I rely on damage to be able to grow exponentially through many small attacks. Without buffs my sin is 1/3 weaker than I am with buffs. All of my skills rely on BUFFS to give me an edge. An archer doesn't need buffs he wears the strongest weapon in the game and his skills go off of that damage. I only state that a sin is as powerful as his buffs.
This is the way the game is based though. In pvp my off hand does like 25 damage 50 on a crit... You really think that's what I hit mobs for?
When I use APOC it's around 3,500 and over 5,600 on a crit. In PVP that same skill should reduce someone to ashes unless they have really good defense but the way damage is done it does like 200 and 400 on crits...
Let's just look at this.
200x 9=1,800 that's my strongest skill. That's about 1/10th of the archers HP. It doesn't cooldown for 2 min
Last reply in this video you will see this archer unleash a skill resulting in almost 1,400 damage on a crit. 1,200 on his second crit. Even with crits on my other skills I would never be able to come close to those damages. If apoc doesn't take a good chunk of your HP away, I die. As for lag there's nothing I can do about that it happens and you can be like I PWNED SQUONK but where was he after my restart? Why didn't he fight again?
If a sin wants to kill an archer in a duel the sin MUST keep a distance while cloaked......or archer will do what video shows....archer murdering the sin.
I disagree although against an archer maybe the extra stuns would/could help from the SH build. It's much more important to be near the archer from the get go and to be able to use skills. Skills are instant besides the fear and the sleep. Once that happens a simple deep evasion, combined with blind gives the extra time before a recloak attempt. Still at distance archer owns the sin. Sin must be close at all times to the archer. Cloak gives us the surprise of the first stun. I lagged.
SH does not have reliable stun/blind. Fear is realible but not instant.
If the sin is NON-AGI build, Deep Evasion is almost useless against a Dex built hunter.
For a sin to beat an archer, you have to stun him first and get some more stuns to land. Archer Vit buff + spiracle healing skill allow them to take some hits.
There are ways to make the deep evasion work effectively at least to land quite a few more hits than usual. I didn't get the chance to show you how to do this in this video though.
If done correctly it's crimson turbulence, headbreaker, apoc, dd, ds blind, deep evasion, sleep pray that it hits. At this point you will have enough for another cloak reduce accuracy with shadow stab, ds again, fatal wave if you have the xbow you throw out the xbow skills as well with stuns in between if you want
Deep Evasion increases evasion Squonky, not accuracy.
I don't know how can u comment on xbow SH skills as Sins only have the 1st job skills. Again, SH does not have ANY reliable stun/blind skills. Sins don't have ANY XBOW crowd control skills besides knockbacks.
Deep Evasion increases the ability to dodge attacks combined with a skill like shadow stab or blind which reduces accuracy of the opponent it can be a very very very effective skill against an archer especially if you're using an agi build. I haven't set up the agi build on my sin because that's pvp only not interested in doing less damage on bosses/in the field which would hurt my dps. I also don't want to set up more than 2 pvp builds. Then again I probably won't stay with rappelz too long
1. Cloak and stay AWAY from the archer's traps D:
2. Stun-lock the archer
3. if your entire set of stuns/skills are spent and you didn't kill the archer.... cloak and wait for cool downs though in truth you probably lost unless in the initial set of stuns you missed most of them due to being unlucky.
you also wrote I should do shadow rush... You do realize you need space to do shadow rush right? It's not an in close skill, in fact it's pretty far away I'd say like 7 meters or so. Anything closer it won't work, also that skill is a waste of MP it is good to use during fear though. Just because I cloaked doesn't mean lag doesn't happen I never took another step after I cloaked even with him running at me, and I didn't get the first shot off with my stun which is instantaneous. *not shadow
Only invincible at 100 to con 6 boss and dungeon mobs ++ and everything below them. Con 7 can't solo yet, takin/ssk probably need a siren to do them efficiently.
As for this video cool man you took a lagged out character sweet :). At least I know why I didn't get my rematch.
oh yeah this was with nd equips.
xXxCr1ZxXx 6 months ago
Idk how he even died with that terrible damage. this is what I call damage. first I use a clean R1 bow then a R4 +20 bow, enjoy youtube.com/user/GhostRidahWhip#p/u/6/77kRAFonGLk
xXxCr1ZxXx 6 months ago
@xXxCr1ZxXx
dude, this was back in E5 O_O
RollerFrog 6 months ago
@RollerFrog so where my videos o.o
xXxCr1ZxXx 6 months ago
archers arnt hard when i pvp on my sin, i would be ashamed if i could loose to an archer with that combo :x
fuinha95 1 year ago
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dude not to defend squonky and his noobishness but a good sin can pvp quite well. Unfortunately most sins can't pvp for crap.and hence the whole misconception that sins suck at pvp. And also i agree that the whole idea of a sin out tanking a knight is preposterous
asianbboy911 1 year ago
Needs moar Benny Hill music :D
fenrir007mx 1 year ago
DOKU you noob don't you know that you are supposed to be using an r1 bow against squonky. Your r4 bow is just useless against him man its like head butting a side walk. I mean what kind of idiot uses an r4 bow against a sin, that's just some kind of ludicrous right there. How do you sleep at night knowing that you cant even get a duel right you should be ashamed of your self. You have embarrassed all archers that play this game. You must have been dropped as a baby, because that was just stupid.
ahorriblerat 1 year ago
I dont know what's worse, squonky or the dipshits that DP with him and help him level. Seriously, dumbest fucking player in the entire game, needs a keyboard-muzzle and a permaban. Pull your head out of your ass. Nothing you have ever said, or will ever say will in any way be constructive, or at the very least CORRECT. Fail harder faggot.
67Stallion 2 years ago
what's the name of the song?
liud128 2 years ago
.... Squonky writes too much. It's always skip skip skip skip skip skip, oh it's someone else's post! skip skip skip skip...
rjw10820 2 years ago 4
doku....why does your vid has about 30+ comments of squonk's random wisdom? o_O
OmegaStarScream1 2 years ago 5
lol
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You say except healer or dms... The healer is by far the easiest person to tank over in this game if you understand aggro. As for CMs yes they're extremely hard to tank over early on because of their skill power vs my power that's why they tone down their skills early on because their skills are overpowered early on. Later on, their skill power vs my tab f1 I could tank over them if I had the damage of devilking. God forbid I had crit swords as well because then it would really be on.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
My current TAB F1 damage at level 101 is roughly without AI proc the way I built my sin without unity rings is 5,000+3,000+. With AI it turns into 5,000+3,000+5,000+3,000 + whatever buffs I got in as well from dark might shining weapon etc. which could lead I think the most I would see is like 360 and 190 so 720+380=another 1,000+ damage. So total damage in less than 1 second =17k at r5 level 101 I still not full jlvl I don't have any epic str in my build and my main hand is only +10.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
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As for skills I use I only use 4-5 skills in a dp and I only use 4 in the field.
Are you ready?
APOC
Deadly Dancing
Dark Strike
if if if if I get a chance once in awhile I will use shadow rush OTHER THAN THAT I DON'T USE ANOTHER SKILL.
Now you wanna know how many skills I use per dp.
20+45+120=185 skills per hour that's all except I might get in a few shadow rushes but they're not really used all that often. *and of course this excludes buffing myself with ai, quick pace, and conc.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
APOC which is at r5 over 60k aoe damage on 3 mobs each which in total 1 skill every 2 minutes is over 180,000+ DAMAGE YOU GONNA TANK OVER ME REALLY? YOU BETTER PREPARED BRO WITH A R7+ HAWK WITH INCREASED THREAT BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT THREAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING!
That's just r5 wait till I'm r6+ that same 180,000 will be over 250-300+k damage on 3 mobs. Then again you think by tab f1 I take away 25 with my off hand and I'm not even including shining weapon or dark might.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
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Looking at 14x sin his damage main hand is 11k+ his off hand on crits = 6k+ total DAMAGE IS 17,000 WITHOUT AI! IF AI PROCS TAB F1=34,000 DAMAGE! Now combine that with support of gust, wl buffs, ancient gloves, the fastest speed of any character in this game, a +3 or better ai card, HP Regen from hits which means in 1 attack I could regen 10% of 34,000=3,400 HP PER ATTACK AND YOU'RE TELLING ME I CAN'T TANK? I tank over r5 evokers at level 90 bro without using a single skill. God forbid I use
scarredbytears 2 years ago
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First of all never judge a sins damage by pvp play ever!
Second of all never ever judge a sins damage without buffs.
Third of all if the crit rate *ratio* isn't 18% or better than 18% that sin is a leach in your dp.
Now before I continue on, 99% of all sins prior to me playing Rappelz didn't use a crit ratio of 18+% and a good 96% or more still don't!!!
I use a 23% crit rate in the field, in the dungeons, EVEN IN PVP!!!! This isn't with unity rings which I will be using for the next 2-4 weeks
scarredbytears 2 years ago
OK, retard. If a class NEEDS buffs to do anything, it's fail, no ifs, ands or buts about it. Buffed, I can take out Skoll 125 [**] and walk out with around 33-50% HPs just with pots/groceries and a Hawk pet, no octo buff, so no, you're not that remarkable, you actually fail harder than 99% sins out there
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First without buffs sins are the weakest character in this game, that's a fact. They have the weakest weapon, their skills have extremely long cooldowns and they rely on damage over time. Without buffs, the sin is hopeless. On any other class buffs don't mean as much as they do to the sin. Also please remember if you're a pet class you may not see the buffs you give to your pet but the sin has no additional buffs for their pet or for themself.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
Having said that if you understood how a sin fights you'd be able to comprehend what a buff does.
Huna +Healer buffs gives the sin 355+ attack power x all of their belongings for example I use an orc belt xx6% + I have deco hat x1% plus I have temporary wings currently add another 4%. If I had a kenta belt it would look like this
(14%+1%+attack buff from pet+huna healer buff+4% x100%)x2 for chip then add (14%+1%+4%+pet buff+ huna healer buff x60%)x2 for chip
then x4 for AI
scarredbytears 2 years ago
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Now without buffs to attack speed the sin is barely as strong as a knight because they have roughly the same amount of attack speed.
Advantage SIN huna buff cm buff and quick pot will take away over 1 second between attacks vs a knight that gets like .5 seconds maybe per attack.
Now comes the difference between me and the rest of the sins.
take the total damage of main hand x by 80% and take total off hand damage x80% then x4
A sin is a multiple hit not a single hit weapon
scarredbytears 2 years ago
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They're given the weakest weapon in this game because they attack so often and so fast that no one would be able to hold them back if they didn't have a good defense. Which is why they're given oblivion to use which decreases their damage by 10% in the form of threat. Even with that on a KNIGHT CAN'T HOLD ME BACK when I'm fully buffed unless they have some crits go their way in dealing some extraordinary amount of damage to the enemy/enemies. Sustainable holding of aggro over me is impossible
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My main hand does like 125 damage x.6=75 that's the damage my off hand should do in pvp without a chip but that's not the way the game is set up. The damage my off hand does is 15 without a crit and 25 with a crit. My attack speed *the edge over everything in the field* doesn't get applied due to player rules. Can't use attack pots why the hell not? I gain an advantage over you. If you fight in a siege chips are legal, buffs are legal why not in pvp? You can't handle it?
scarredbytears 2 years ago
My skills are multi hit skills as in they don't gain as much attack power a single skill does in other characters combined with the weakest weapon in the game my power isn't truly felt unless I have the buffs. In the field I out aggro you they can't change my skill set because I do unreal damage.
When I unleash a skill in the field and it does over 80k damage with a chip and full buffs how do you expect to survive it? That's my dark spiral but in pvp I might get lucky if it does 1,800
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I don't know anyone in this game besides a CM that can out DD a sin with a full arsenal and built correctly. I've seen the damage from pet classes *pukes* I've seen the damage from WLs pukes and from archers. They don't pull over 80kx3 in 1 skill to follow it back up with 50k in less than 3 seconds and that's just at level 100 with a +10 weapon without the rec coming into effect or god forbid I had HV buffs because then I'd really rock you.
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Finally you have to consider the last of the buffs. Things like dark might and shining weapon which gives the sin over 1,000 extra damage per hit in the field and its non negotiable. Its extra damage that isn't being applied in pvp but it does get applied in sieges even if chips aren't used because it doesn't go off of the defense. If you think it's = it's not. The sin attacks 2x and up to 4x per second which 160% x buffs and up to 320% per attack.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
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Finally the buffs I receive from the huna and the healer empower my sin to be over 60% STRONGER than I am without those buffs because of my low attack power.
It's like armor right. You don't throw a CM out there to hold aggro over 10 mobs because no matter if the cm adds +20 to every piece of gear the CM still doesn't have the defense of a knight. It's the same way in pvp even if I had +20 swords and you had a lvl 10 weapon at lvl 100+ you would take more away. It's that simple.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
If you would like screen shots between the damage difference I'd be more than happy to show you in pvp and in the field with buffs and without buffs. Mind you no sin near my level or at my level can out dd me without unity rings or hv buffs because that's how powerful the sin is when built correctly. If they used unity rings they have the sin built correctly without them chances are they chose a different route.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
@scarredbytears i doubt you do 80k damage in feild an r7 sin does 60k damage in feild with crit build
NerdstatuZ 2 years ago
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I forgot to mention how without the WL/CM buffs combined with ancient gloves combined with attack speed pot=a faster attack speed than any combination any class has except for the SH. Faster attack speed allows me to hit very fast but it's only with buffs that you would feel the power of my off hand. Combined with dark might and shining weapon you'd really feel the power of a sin when you're running around for 15 seconds! Instead you hide behind player rules not game rules or stat increases.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
VS me at SSK corner I couldn't handle the dark spiral or that many mobs on me because they're not all linked. Then again I don't like SSK corner. I don't feel that's a good spot to level for me as a sin. I love Takin DR. Simpler pulls, room is constant, and no knight needed. I can handle 3 mobs in DR without taking any damage throughout the entire DP I turn healers into DDs in that room because they aren't needed.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
They can hold a bigger group of mobs than a sin unchained but a chained link on a good sin, the sin can act just like a knight. It's harder for them to do so, it might require some more healing but you'd have a faster kill. Unless there's a cm in the party. What I noticed from videos was that a CM can blast enemies with Dark Spiral in SSK corner because the CMs skill is soo high that it just obliterates the mobs. CM still gets aggro but not a lot of aggro left to get.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
So as for aggro control I don't believe a knight is a great source of holding it. Now I will say that a R5 knight did hold aggro on Takin for me until he ran OOM which was like the last 15 seconds of the boss battle. This of course was with oblivion on and then I got aggro. Of course I don't have +20 gear, I only use rare str, and I didn't have wings or unity rings. I didn't have HV buffs, and I didn't have a str circlet.
While viewing videos I noticed knights do get hit for less
scarredbytears 2 years ago
God forbid I used a skill like APOC with this knight because I would come SOOO CLOSE to dying because he would pull like 10 mobs maybe more. So now I don't get to use my strongest AOE, I get aggro following the chip at SSK corner with 4+ mobs hitting me at once which is too much for me to handle, and he wiped the party numerous times. The only time that I have ever wiped a party was wayyyyyyy back at Tara's room when I was r3 by accidentally hitting headbreaker and causing people to bring mobs
scarredbytears 2 years ago
Someone said I needed to learn how to play???? Invincibility with a sin is learning how to play and how to do it.
Next about Knights. First I hardly ever dp with them, I find them useless. Second being a sin and dping at r2-r3 told knights are best for aggro control. Then I started out aggroing them at R4. I was told wait till R5. At R5 I watched a 110 knight go to SSK corner and wipe the dp close to 4x. I constantly had aggro following his chip with oblivion on. All I did TAB F1!
scarredbytears 2 years ago
This is hopeless... I don't wanna go through all these comments again to remove his foolishness... I think I'll just let it bury itself -_-
RollerFrog 2 years ago
Post another video doing the Squonk
alvarezUCSD 2 years ago
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StrikeRedkite 2 years ago
Squonky, either remove your wall-of-text or I'll do it for you.
The goal was not to see if I could beat you. I even told that R5 wouldn't save you from Doku back when you weren't even 90 yet.
You just don't make the cut Squonk, and that's the bottom line.
As for your rematch, you told me to go farm for a couple mins and you would PM me. After 10 mins, I went back to check and you were gone... Not only that, but you weren't even online anymore.
I don't have time for your faggotry Squonk...
RollerFrog 2 years ago
I signed back in within a few minutes. I kept writing on the main getting comments like Doku doesn't have time for you, you can't beat Takin, you suck squonk yadda yadda yadda. It went on for about 15 minutes straight or so with pms and writing on the whole chat. Just FYI I did return, I did look for a rematch and I still expect one.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
you know sometimes you just have to listen to those voices in your head (in whole chat) and gtfo this planet.
feweedo 2 years ago
@RollerFrog
Thank you for helping me see this guys epic failness.... now to try to recover the broken pieces that is the pride of sins in baha...
asianbboy911 1 year ago
funny how you name 3 types of mobs taht will eventually hurt you (betty,ashmaw,champ mobs) while you dont say takin/ssk and champmobs do min dmg to warrior classes with buffs.
feweedo 2 years ago
The future of R6+= mobs like Takin/SSK will be soloed. I didn't say they would be soloed at level 100-101 but I haven't given up yet either. At R6 Takin/SSK can be soloed without hesitation with full buffs without HV buffs. It might be possible to solo Takin/SSK with HV buffs and maybe some side buffs as well. I haven't tried because I don't Pay to PLAY!
scarredbytears 2 years ago
September 25th, 2009, 8:19 am: Squonky wrote:
I lost duels to you I can't beat you I don't have the skills to beat you. Last WL I took on rashiv or whatever beat me. I was OOM a WL should be killed by OOM but he wasn't. When I say I don't have the skills I mean levels to beat your archer. By R5 stand by mofo.
RollerFrog 2 years ago
Wonder how he'll weasel out of that one.
My bet is lag, of course.
fenrir007mx 2 years ago
No no, it must have been a typo... he surely meant R6 ^^
RollerFrog 2 years ago
Lol if i were you squonk, as soon as i saw vision of prey, id get a stun ready, sonic cross probably, since it's an instant stun.
Nice one doku
OmegaStarScream1 2 years ago
Better thank the Heavens you're not squonk. Otherwise, you'd have no job and claim to be invincible in a game with no basis whatsoever.
fenrir007mx 2 years ago
@fenrir007mx OMG YES THANK YOU GOD. I'm so going to church this sunday
Ty fenfen *.*
OmegaStarScream1 2 years ago
In PVP, players have allowed themselves the ability to be invincible against others except in sieges. There is no use of chips, or buffs except your own buffs. The big problem with that is skills on certain classes don't have the power against other classes. Power isn't the result of skill cards, it's the result of the skill itself combined with a weak weapon. There is no infinite stun which in most games a sin has, and level based Evasion seems to be more pronounced than anything not stats.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
Players have infused a system not based on the game but based on the idea that a class can always get the first stun, then use chips, then unleash their mightiest skill. That's the way the game was created. We aren't allowed to heal through pots but through pets and skills is cool though. PVP isn't broken but players make it broken.
Still even though I am invincible in the field, in pvp I'm not. The octo buff doesn't work that way unless I face a sin with a dagger who tabs f1 and me tab f1.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
I never claimed to be invincible in pvp but I am not such a weakling when given the buffs that we all play with. Buffs create damage and I rely on damage to be able to grow exponentially through many small attacks. Without buffs my sin is 1/3 weaker than I am with buffs. All of my skills rely on BUFFS to give me an edge. An archer doesn't need buffs he wears the strongest weapon in the game and his skills go off of that damage. I only state that a sin is as powerful as his buffs.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
@scarredbytears
Also to state that sins are only as powerful as the buffs they have... you are insulting every other sin that plays this game.
asianbboy911 1 year ago
This is the way the game is based though. In pvp my off hand does like 25 damage 50 on a crit... You really think that's what I hit mobs for?
When I use APOC it's around 3,500 and over 5,600 on a crit. In PVP that same skill should reduce someone to ashes unless they have really good defense but the way damage is done it does like 200 and 400 on crits...
Let's just look at this.
200x 9=1,800 that's my strongest skill. That's about 1/10th of the archers HP. It doesn't cooldown for 2 min
scarredbytears 2 years ago
Last reply in this video you will see this archer unleash a skill resulting in almost 1,400 damage on a crit. 1,200 on his second crit. Even with crits on my other skills I would never be able to come close to those damages. If apoc doesn't take a good chunk of your HP away, I die. As for lag there's nothing I can do about that it happens and you can be like I PWNED SQUONK but where was he after my restart? Why didn't he fight again?
scarredbytears 2 years ago
If a sin wants to kill an archer in a duel the sin MUST keep a distance while cloaked......or archer will do what video shows....archer murdering the sin.
alvarezUCSD 2 years ago
I disagree although against an archer maybe the extra stuns would/could help from the SH build. It's much more important to be near the archer from the get go and to be able to use skills. Skills are instant besides the fear and the sleep. Once that happens a simple deep evasion, combined with blind gives the extra time before a recloak attempt. Still at distance archer owns the sin. Sin must be close at all times to the archer. Cloak gives us the surprise of the first stun. I lagged.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
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alvarezUCSD 2 years ago
SH does not have reliable stun/blind. Fear is realible but not instant.
If the sin is NON-AGI build, Deep Evasion is almost useless against a Dex built hunter.
For a sin to beat an archer, you have to stun him first and get some more stuns to land. Archer Vit buff + spiracle healing skill allow them to take some hits.
alvarezUCSD 2 years ago
There are ways to make the deep evasion work effectively at least to land quite a few more hits than usual. I didn't get the chance to show you how to do this in this video though.
If done correctly it's crimson turbulence, headbreaker, apoc, dd, ds blind, deep evasion, sleep pray that it hits. At this point you will have enough for another cloak reduce accuracy with shadow stab, ds again, fatal wave if you have the xbow you throw out the xbow skills as well with stuns in between if you want
scarredbytears 2 years ago
Deep Evasion increases evasion Squonky, not accuracy.
I don't know how can u comment on xbow SH skills as Sins only have the 1st job skills. Again, SH does not have ANY reliable stun/blind skills. Sins don't have ANY XBOW crowd control skills besides knockbacks.
alvarezUCSD 2 years ago
Deep Evasion increases the ability to dodge attacks combined with a skill like shadow stab or blind which reduces accuracy of the opponent it can be a very very very effective skill against an archer especially if you're using an agi build. I haven't set up the agi build on my sin because that's pvp only not interested in doing less damage on bosses/in the field which would hurt my dps. I also don't want to set up more than 2 pvp builds. Then again I probably won't stay with rappelz too long
scarredbytears 2 years ago
@scarredbytears
Basic fundamentals of pvp vs archer:
1. Cloak and stay AWAY from the archer's traps D:
2. Stun-lock the archer
3. if your entire set of stuns/skills are spent and you didn't kill the archer.... cloak and wait for cool downs though in truth you probably lost unless in the initial set of stuns you missed most of them due to being unlucky.
asianbboy911 1 year ago
you also wrote I should do shadow rush... You do realize you need space to do shadow rush right? It's not an in close skill, in fact it's pretty far away I'd say like 7 meters or so. Anything closer it won't work, also that skill is a waste of MP it is good to use during fear though. Just because I cloaked doesn't mean lag doesn't happen I never took another step after I cloaked even with him running at me, and I didn't get the first shot off with my stun which is instantaneous. *not shadow
scarredbytears 2 years ago
Only invincible at 100 to con 6 boss and dungeon mobs ++ and everything below them. Con 7 can't solo yet, takin/ssk probably need a siren to do them efficiently.
As for this video cool man you took a lagged out character sweet :). At least I know why I didn't get my rematch.
scarredbytears 2 years ago
Wont say much but wow you manually lick skills?lol
simmons2o 2 years ago
I think you mean click? :3
Not everyone is Squonk! XDDD
LudicrousEddy 2 years ago
hahahahahahaha!!!! OWNED! so mcuh for squonky being invincilbe xD
blackwolph6 2 years ago
squonky wrote:
Archer vs Sin is a dead Archer in this game.
a real quote from squonky
tacman1981 2 years ago
why u use the steel cage? doing 1 hit then next skill? every noob archer dose the same;s
GoldeNn0 2 years ago
Steel Cage? WTF are you smoking? Steel Cage isn't even on my hotbar...
RollerFrog 2 years ago
lmao, that was beautiful.
But watch out, he'll be invincible soon, in around 20 levels.
I can wait :)
fenrir007mx 2 years ago
LOL good job XD
TheWind0ws 2 years ago
LOL.
~~Omega~~
OmegaStarScream1 2 years ago
first post muhahah! DEATH TO LION HEART!
funnygrunt69 2 years ago