Jamie Gold Wins WSOP talks about online Poker

[NegreanuDan87]

@dalkin1899

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[artysm7]

gold's a fragle he's shit at poker fucking lucked out in wsop the pros own him in cash games.

[ttdantt10384]

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[Krazyk408]

Jamie gold is a liar i hate jamie gold

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[nkimball24]

Land of the free? I don't think so.

[davidwallis85]

INNANET

[tryss]

the reporter sucks

[rawjc]

gold would win for fun, hes accually a much improved player now

[animeintrostyles]

you can tell from season 3 of High Stakes Poker and season 4. Can really see Golds improvement there.

[Richenough2]

Raymer is a donk too. You dont see how he really plays. Just as bad as Jerry Yang.

[Nemesis000000]

I hate when people call poker gambling as if it was dice or roulette. Theres luck but theres alot of skill at work. Its not different than taking risks in business or sports.

[simonjeste]

The best continuing successful poker players (pro or "semipro") take the gamble OUT of their game by selecting the right table and even the right seat, trying to (ideally) only play against worse players. There's no "choose your edge" equivalent in the table games -- there's no way a "professional" blackjack or craps player could EXPECT a 20-40% roi consistently, which many online pros CAN indeed expect (especially in poker variants like Razz, where so many simply do not know how to play ;) )

[Richenough2]

Who do u think would win at a final table if put all these together; Jerry Yang, Jamie Gold, Chris Moneymaker, Greg Raymer, and Steve Dannemann and Jennifer Tilly- all extremely overrated players

[real380]

Dannemann isn't overated donkey, they guy has an amazing resume written two books, get your mind right, Raymer is pretty good as well.

[simonjeste]

Dannemann isn't Harrington -- are you sure you didn't get the 2 mixed up? Cuz I don't know of "two books" written by Dannemann (who is a good player too, don't get me wrong... and he's friends with Matusow, poking fun at Hellmuth on occasion, so bonus points for that :) )

[yulewave]

Raymer would be the favorite. Yang, Gold and Moneymaker have virtually vanished from the face of the earth since luckboxing the main event title.

[jeff19861118]

why does chris moneymaker suck at life?

[backlip19]

lmao

[simonjeste]

it's all in his book, baby! He's a degenerate gambler!

(Seriously, he is -- I pity his wife and kid(s) -- seems sports betting was (is?) a more common occurence in his life than poker)

[Richenough2]

Who do u think would win at a final table if put all these together; Jerry Yang, Jamie Gold, Chris Moneymaker, Greg Raymer, and Steve Dannemann and Jennifer Tilly- all extremely overrated players

[jeffw1267]

Yang and Raymer are very tough, especially Raymer. I wouldn't want to take on either of them.

[Richenough2]

if u feel that way... then u are a weak player.

[OmerPistone]

jerry yang is such a bad player... raymer is ok

[tyrone37]

how is raymer overrated, how is tilly overated

[simonjeste]

how is TILLY over-rated?

"I thought he might have had Kings" -- enough said.

[simonjeste]

sorry, hard to Google the above since I misquoted:

(after she CHECKED IT DOWN ALL THE WAY vs. Patrik Antonius, when her JJ flopped a third Jack, Turn and River were both Kings)

"(sigh of relief) I thought you had pocket kings"

watch?v=iSEqLkeXwm4

(priceless expression on Ivey's face @ 1:49, WOW!)

[jon9999zzzz]

what the fuck is wrong with ure country?

[lucidmindful]

@jon9999zzzz We have this unnerving ability to elect utter morons for office.

[ytbma]

let the yanks ban it - british gov. is gonna create a well regulated industry for online poker in UK if so and their fat american raked tax dollars can pay for my currently rubbish train network to be grade A

[jeffw1267]

simonjeste, you are brilliant.

Those Christians are going to feel mighty silly believing in God their whole lives, and then going "all-in" when they die, only to discover that after death... there is nothing.

But I won't be there to laugh at them, because for us atheists, after death, there is also... nothing.

[surGeonGG]

They are playing so tight it's not wonder they got bluffed by religion.

Poker references ftw.

[simonjeste]

Read either of the 2 most famous books by literary master Al Alverez... or Positively Fifth Street by Jim McManus You've got it mostly right, but not quite... Poque or Pokah was "French" but a PREDECESSOR to Poker as we now know and love it.

[asong1588]

fuck the government, they fucking sell guns at walmart, and yet we can't gamble online? what a fucked up country.

[D34th66]

The way to legalize online poker, which poker companies to not want to do, is let the government control a type of Excise Tax. The problem with that, is there are no grounds for having the tax, because you do not have to pay dealers, or upkeep for a casino, and the companies know that do not have to do that.

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[ammar121088]

Hey Ennesx, if putting money on uncertainty is gambling, then isn't the stock market or any investing in any business in the world gambling also because you are never certain that you will get your money back. So why don't we ban those also

[thebigeasy619]

Because every stock transaction the gov is making money off it. Poker is not...

And the Yanks had to ban poker. The irony of it all...

[EnnesX]

I should clarify that betting on unknown risk is gambling...you never know with 100% certainty in a hand what cards other players hold. You also have no control over what cards you are dealt. In investing, all relevant information is made available before you make a decision whether or not to assume the risk.

[xvikramx1]

I play poker, I gamble. I invest, I gamble.

[simonjeste]

I gamble whenever I step off a sidewalk to cross a road. Life is a gamble. Heck, even fundamentalist Christians who are zealously anti-gambling are themselves taking The Ultimate Gamble, going All In betting their current lives on the hope there is an After-Life. :)

[patatepowa]

haha you're right life is poker

[simonjeste]

oddly enough, now that I've "discovered" how easy it is to have a HUGE edge in one particular variant -- Razz -- I want to double-amplify my agreement that poker is NOT "gambling", not as much as so much of life... It's more like selective investment, with a long-term expectation of great returns (so long as you don't let your emotions rule -- hey it's just like informed stock market investments, but I doubt CNBC or CNNFN will ever give Poker the same respect as traders and "speculators")

[simonjeste]

WOW! "in investing, ALL relevant information" eh? How about what the "market" (masses of people, all individuals) will do TOMORROW (or even 2 hours from now).

In poker (esp. "stud" games where you can see the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th card of all of your opponents) u have LOTS of information available to u, and based on that u can determine with mathematically certainty what is the probability of your ROI (return on INVESTMENT). And playing against worse players increases that "certainty" :) .

[Flopbuster]

Think it has more to do with not giving all our money to other countries. They will find a way to make it american and tax the shit out of it.

[kr4ckas]

that's fine. I mean, we already had to pay like 10% in order to get the damn money on the site in the first place, then the site would rake the shit out of it anyway. What's another 5%, just don't take it away all together you fucking government mother fuckers!

[pokerboy233]

quit calling poker "gambling" you fuckin republican motherfuckers. not all people "gamble". only bad players do, fuckin ignorfucktards

[EnnesX]

if you are not dealing with certainty, you are gambling. even if you are good and assure yourself a statistical advantage over the long run, there is still no guarantee those percentages will materialize for you. the fate of each hand still lies in probability, all poker play is gambling.

[pokerboy233]

winning in poker aint about the "fate of each hand" you monkeyfart, its about playing better than your opponents for a long period. now stfu and quit embarassing yourself asswipe

[EnnesX]

thats what im saying, you can outplay your opponents over a long period and with bad luck, lose every single hand. When you try to refute the fact that betting on a game of chance is gambling, you make yourself look even dumber than your anme would suggest, "pokerboy"

[dudex1006]

if there is sumthing wrong with gambling, y are lotteries legal?

[simonjeste]

"the long run is longer than most people think" -- some famous poker guy said this, it's a reminder that VARIANCE is both a good and bad thing (i.e. playing against WORSE players means they chase poorly and suck out more often, but LONG term you win more from them than the solid players who fold when they know they are a 49% dog or worse).

[Flamesfan7]

You're speaking to a poker addict here.

The fact that Jamie Gold won the WSOP proves how wrong your statement is on multiple levels.

[Malconomics]

Congress doesn't like internet poker because it's the only thing they can't tax. and their fuming because there's so much lost revenue being lost. How will they fund their war of terror if they

[BigNacho]

Jamie Gold is a jew!!! LMAO!!!!

[deadflag]

jamie gold sucks

[SUNDANCE906]

obviously there's not enough oil in online poker!!!

[Aleusi]

Still can't believe america re-voted George White Bush! =)

[bfyrth]

lol u yanks are nuts anyway, uve got one of the most restricted countries in the world and still harp on about being free

[binksy69]

Jamie Gold is a knobjockey....

[fanatiX123]

move to europe!

[sdnuol]

dumb fuckin republicans

[spheenx]

jamie gold can suck deez.

[sworthin]

The new anti-gambling legislation sucks.

Land of the free? Don't make me laugh.