@zVzDeaTHxFeiLDzZ They mention "Serenity" multiple times, plus there's the anticipation of him just biting into the apple. He swirls it around all over the place, and you're sitting there going... Don't bite it, don't bite! Cut into it!
i've watched both season 1 and 2 of this show because i love nathan so much, but i must admit, it is kind of hard to watch. i find the show a bit boring. HOWEVER, from the very first episode, i've loved the scenes with these three characters.
I didnt get into firefly until after I became a big castle fan, now I find myself boycotting fox for canceling such an amazing show, I understand now why firefly fanboys get so upset
I loved this little joke, but the more blatant reference fro the previous season was classier, when Castle dressed up as Mal, and when asked what he was he replied "Space Cowboy." Is then told there are no cows in space, and replies again "Sure there could be!" An obvious nod to episode 5 of Firefly.
@OgreSamanosuke Then his daughter says "didn't you wear that like ... five years ago?" The episode was released in '09, the Serenity movie was released in '05.
@OgreSamanosuke In an interview or panel (I forget which) that you can watch here on youtube Nathan Fillion says he wanted to break the fourth wall after asked "you've never heard of serenity?" and end the scene there, but the director wouldn't let him.
love that "Bitch please" look when she asks if hes heard of Firefly. I'm also betting he eats that apple with a knife to avoid a Griswald (thumbs if you get the reference)
hahahahaha, when his mother asks "you haven't heard of the serenity?" Mal I mean Castle looks pretty much right at the camera with a look that made me bust out laughing
when he mentions passengers spying on them that's another reference to the Firefly episode Serenity when one of the Alliance comes aboard as a passenger to spy on Simon
@Matt360UK I like Firefly/Serenity references as much as the next guy but I very much doubt that's one of them. You could just as easily say that anything featuring someone being spied on is a James Bond reference.
@ModPrime Noooo, I know that is, I wouldn't have uploaded the video otherwise. I mean when Matt360UK said that Castle saying "maybe the passengers spied on him" was a reference to Firefly because of that alliance soldier that found Simon and River hiding on Firefly.
@50Calabyte Of course I know that. I'm the one that posted the video. The reply you mostly likely replied to is when I was telling someone that the Alliance mole spying on the Serenity crew wasn't a reference to James Bond.
@barrymcoresome I am the uploader of the video, of course I know it's there. The comment you're most likely replying to is the one in which Matt360UK says that people spying on the cab driver in this episode of Castle is a reference to the Alliance Mole spying on the crew in Firefly.
@In0tuhTR3KKi3 XD, it was in the episode "out of gas" were you see the scene were he says he has a name :p it was named after the battle of serenity vally were the brown coats basicly lost there foothold on the war. XD god i know to much about this show
Also on the halloween episode when asked what he´s supposed to be he replies space pirate, and his costume looks uncannily like his captain outfit from firefly. :D
@felix3322 oh im not complaining, its subtle enough so that if you don't know the reference you'll miss it entirely, but clear enough so that if you do get the reference, it will be clear.
@felix3322 oh im not complaining, its subtle enough so that if you don't know the reference you'll miss it entirely, but clear enough so that if you do get the reference, it will be clear.
He looks SICKLY alike Nathan Drake in the first Uncharted. Rereplaying all the seasons of Two Guys and A girl now, and he's a really cool actor! He's totally got the looks, the style and the humor of Nathan Drake.
My favorite theory is that Chuck and Castle happen in the same universe and not only Casey an ancestor of Jayne be Castle is an ancestor of Mal. Now, there just needs to be an awesome Chuck/Castle crossover!
@Matterialize If the reference was the apple, he would have peeled around it in case there was a "griswald" hidden inside it. Don't worry, that could be the next reference. That look Nathan gives is just classic.
The writers have a knack for tipping their hats to all the cast and their past rolls - not just Nathan. At the Halloween party last season all the cast were dressed inn outfits from roles they had played in previous film/shows.
When I first started viewing these "Firefly references in Castle" I thought they would be tenuous, esoteric snide winks - but Jesus! how much more BLATANT can the writers of this show be?!! These references are so OBVIOUS - and played that way as well. And I also wonder whether Fillion has a hand in them or whether the writers are just fanatics.
ATTENTION EVERYONE: There is a movement forming to gather a couple hundred thousand people to pledge to donate money to Nathan Fillion or Joss Whedon to produce a SECOND SEASON of Firefly for online distribution. Go on facebook and like "Help Nathan Buy Firefly" or go to helpnathanbuyfirefly . com for more details. BOOST THE SIGNAL! GET THE WORD OUT!
@Sararoth You're a bit too late on that, sorry. When that movement started, it was going for roughly a week before Nathan Fillion said that he would only buy the rights to Firefly with his own money, not with other people's money. I'm sure Joss Whedon feels the same way. It got shot down pretty quickly, I'm surprised people are still behind it.
Haha, when I saw the thumbnail I was thinking Nathan is holding a telephone receiver in his hand.
geekingde 6 days ago
@geekingde me too!! I thought, "Wow, what an awesome green phone".
myjunefairy 4 days ago
Don't eat that apple Mal! It's a grenade!!
stargatefansg1 1 week ago
Firefly yesplease
Izzy8u 1 week ago
you get viewers he was in FIREFLY, get it? GET IT!!!!!!! jk
TheLordgorgor 1 week ago
aHH!!! Firefly joke!!! WIN!!!
PopRocksV 2 weeks ago
0:41 he's like "are you trolling me?:
Brycefied 3 weeks ago
I don't get the reference... where was it
zVzDeaTHxFeiLDzZ 3 weeks ago
@zVzDeaTHxFeiLDzZ They mention "Serenity" multiple times, plus there's the anticipation of him just biting into the apple. He swirls it around all over the place, and you're sitting there going... Don't bite it, don't bite! Cut into it!
nezumi102 3 weeks ago
@nezumi102 Sarcasm man at the highest echelon
zVzDeaTHxFeiLDzZ 3 weeks ago
Somewhere in his head, his subconcious stirs as memories from a life past bleed through.
kiduke1337 3 weeks ago
Every time I see these references, I die on the inside a bit.
HanginWithSnakes 3 weeks ago
0:40 I'm surprised he didn't wink at the camera.
Razzics 4 weeks ago 3
BRING BACK FIREFLY
RotnRoll77 1 month ago 3
Aaaaaah that episode. He doesnt ask for references but the writers try very hard to accomodate them like the outfit his daughter wears for halloween.
devilmaycare34 1 month ago
This episode scared me!!
Jennrc123 1 month ago
I REMBER THIS EPISODE
cuteg4 1 month ago
Man, you can tell they want Firefly back sooooo badly.
HanginWithSnakes 1 month ago 4
The best one was where he speaks chinese and Kate asks if he spent a semester abroad. He replies "No, TV show I used to love"
WhistleblowerMike 1 month ago 8
"you haven't heard of the Serenity?"
did you SEE his face? HAHAHA
SilverDragon7109 1 month ago 5
ok apples, where is his knife? and how is it that i just happen to be watching the episode from firefly about apples at the same time as this?
whatthefuck386 1 month ago
0:40 that look, LOLS
Thor00430 1 month ago
Great stuff!
shane8109 1 month ago
i've watched both season 1 and 2 of this show because i love nathan so much, but i must admit, it is kind of hard to watch. i find the show a bit boring. HOWEVER, from the very first episode, i've loved the scenes with these three characters.
sydandtaytum 1 month ago
You haven't heard of the serenity?
*Nathan looks at the camera
Weirdalbingo 1 month ago in playlist More videos from karlgookey 4
Ha! That's almost a firefly/star wars crossover reference, too. "You've never heard of the Serenity?" "You've never heard of the Millennium Falcon?"
urmomsahobbit 1 month ago 2
I love these. My favorite would have to be in supernatural the reference to house of wax.
Blasted2Oblivion 1 month ago
@Blasted2Oblivion Especially Sam's reaction to it.
Arella17 1 month ago
If you watch the blooper reel for Firefly, Nathan Fillion also says "how's you like a bite out of this green apple, america?"
KayleeMay13 1 month ago
I really want Fillion as Drake...
wwaarrddy 1 month ago 2
I didnt get into firefly until after I became a big castle fan, now I find myself boycotting fox for canceling such an amazing show, I understand now why firefly fanboys get so upset
HER0forHire 2 months ago 6
"Zoe, how come you and the Captain always cut your apples?"
OR NOT!!
TheFunkyPoacher 2 months ago 4
Uhh, this doesn't look like a reference. Way too vague.
moeezS 2 months ago
@moeezS Er, I'm assuming you're joking, as it was pretty blatant. He even looks at the camera for a second after she says the word "Serenity".
KthulhuXxx 2 months ago
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@moeezS Listen to the climax of the music though and then the cheeky smirk of Nate. It's there lol
barrymcoresome 1 month ago
I expected something about diamonds the size of testicles.
kienocard 2 months ago 4
0:43-0:49 He just couldnt control his smile
itcneves 2 months ago
I was expecting someone to tell him not to bite into the apple and hand him a knife... this doesn't seem very reference-like...
Rindlemoon 2 months ago
Wooow Too fat Nathan, he has to move up and get back to check his Firefly !
Ouarza62 2 months ago
Has to be a reference, the face he makes after "you havent heard of the serenity?!?" is proof enough
SolarGrooving 2 months ago
If he cut the apple with a knife THAT would be a reference.
hoshnasi 2 months ago
BUT THE APPLE!!!!
katzenjammerific 2 months ago
I saw Nathan looking at the camera, you dog you
bobthe5th 2 months ago
not really a serenity reference. They do say serenity. but the cutting of the apple would have been better.
mohaa1058 2 months ago 3
@mohaa1058 yeah thats what i thought was gonna happen
Jackalofdeath 2 months ago
I giggled like a little girl at his look, shamefully i am a bearded man.
artx4321 2 months ago
oh wow. i didn't even notice.
StaraziaSelin66 2 months ago
They reference it quite a bit. That's not even the best one! It's the most obvious, though.
AmgelOfMercy 2 months ago
Stana Katic is in this? That means, through the power of the Hollywood connection game, that I can connect Mal to Batman.
MephiticFilms 3 months ago
FIREFLY LIVES!
lestef23 3 months ago
shinny :)
131313pie 3 months ago
I loved this little joke, but the more blatant reference fro the previous season was classier, when Castle dressed up as Mal, and when asked what he was he replied "Space Cowboy." Is then told there are no cows in space, and replies again "Sure there could be!" An obvious nod to episode 5 of Firefly.
OgreSamanosuke 3 months ago 54
@OgreSamanosuke Then his daughter says "didn't you wear that like ... five years ago?" The episode was released in '09, the Serenity movie was released in '05.
Eboreg2 2 weeks ago
@OgreSamanosuke In an interview or panel (I forget which) that you can watch here on youtube Nathan Fillion says he wanted to break the fourth wall after asked "you've never heard of serenity?" and end the scene there, but the director wouldn't let him.
katfish153 4 days ago 3
What episode is this?
HockeyDiane 3 months ago
@HockeyDiane Season 3, Episode 16
karlgookey 3 months ago
@karlgookey In The Nerdist Podcast episode with Nathan Fillion, He stated that he gives them ideas all the time. Even most of the Firefly references.
AndrewP204 1 month ago
If they keep fucking reference firefly because its awesome BUT THEY DON'T BRING IT BACK. THAT WASN'T A SENTENCE BECAUSE I'M PISSED.
happykillmore88 3 months ago 4
0:40 That look.
Spo8 3 months ago
Doesn't this scene go on to show him cutting the apple with a knife instead of just biting into it? Another reference.
ErnWii 3 months ago 183
@ErnWii I have no idea. I haven't watched this episode since I uploaded this clip.
karlgookey 3 months ago
@ErnWii In addition to the knife being driven into his side with "You haven't heard of Serenity?"
SamSchreiber12 3 months ago
@ErnWii
Yes, it does. And the far vaguer one to notice, good on you.
OgreSamanosuke 3 months ago
@ErnWii Thats what I thought they were going to show
gelliman 2 months ago
@ErnWii no he actually does bite it
Natcat13x 2 months ago
Peel. The apple.
lazermanextrem 3 months ago
I'm not so sheer if that's a reference thou there have been meny references to fire fly and Buffy in the show
nickbiales 3 months ago
@nickbiales no, of course it isn't a reference. It's quite obviously just a Big Damn Coincidence. Also, Firefly season two premieres next Friday.
trollolololololo 3 months ago
On the preview it looks like He's holding a banana phone with an apple speaker o_0
isocryd 3 months ago
"Nestled" now go watch the serenity bloopers :D
RicochetSaw 3 months ago
i was waiting for him to cut up the apple :)
drbg118 3 months ago 2
oasis of Serenity, spiritual retreat? that water's soiled by the dead bodies of our army
rntbprz 3 months ago
My God, Molly Quinn just keeps getting more beautiful every season.
MThrow 3 months ago 3
Subtle
Henipah 3 months ago
Anyone else notice that he didn't take a bite into the apple? A *probably* accidental Firefly reference
xblackoutx767 3 months ago
I love the look on his face when she says"you haven't heard of the serenity?"LOLOL!!
allensgirl99 3 months ago
Lol, that look was priceless!
epeter29 3 months ago
If you didn't know, there are some writers form FireFly on the show with Nathan as well.
DrakoraYeda 3 months ago
love that "Bitch please" look when she asks if hes heard of Firefly. I'm also betting he eats that apple with a knife to avoid a Griswald (thumbs if you get the reference)
itsbloodytommy 3 months ago
Speaking as a 100%straight man...
I'm in love with Nathan Fillion
LotsofLights 3 months ago 50
@LotsofLights My thoughts exactly.
TheBigDead0ne 1 month ago
@LotsofLights It's okay because he is beyond awesome
lukeiamurfather1 1 month ago
He is so much like Nathan Drake from Uncharted!
Wallywee95 3 months ago 5
LOVE IT! and uh, looks like Nathon put a few pounds on...
MrLotharofhillpeople 3 months ago
he should have said this" fruit his problematic"
Drspoots 4 months ago
It's almost as if he breaks the fourth wall and stares at us!
RelytDraw51 4 months ago 3
This fruit is problematic
TheSt0rmrider 4 months ago
Doubt that's a references to Serenity. Also he is not looking into the camera .
NamelessBlaze 4 months ago
Please, she says "You haven't heard of the Serenity?" and he looks into the goddamn camera. It's a firefly reference
coolgirl1811 4 months ago
Know what a grizwald is?
MikeLabrow 4 months ago
Sorry guys...that was NOT a Firefly reference. But, Castle did dress as a space cowboy once. The costume looked just like Captain Reynolds.'
rhonstarr 4 months ago
It would have been more of a firefly reference if he commented that Serenity sounds like the name of a boat.
psychedashell 4 months ago
A maaaaann's gotta do what a maan's gotta do.
bullet4mehvalentine 4 months ago 5
5 people had the sky taken from them
SpareTimeCreations 4 months ago
@SpareTimeCreations Sorry, pal; Firefly's over. I'm afraid everyone's had the sky taken from them. =(
Levyathyn 4 months ago
hahahahaha, when his mother asks "you haven't heard of the serenity?" Mal I mean Castle looks pretty much right at the camera with a look that made me bust out laughing
herosresolve 4 months ago 3
It's not THE Serenity, it's just Serenity!
LordSothe 4 months ago 2
The only way this could be more blatant would be if Nathan looked into the camera at 41 seconds and winked!
smpowis 4 months ago
What episode is this from?
FandPrulethesky 4 months ago
You haven't heard of the Serenity?
*Nathan looks at camera*
Laughed my head off
Nephkona 4 months ago 5
Ha!:P
weeoo86 4 months ago
when he mentions passengers spying on them that's another reference to the Firefly episode Serenity when one of the Alliance comes aboard as a passenger to spy on Simon
Matt360UK 4 months ago 19
@Matt360UK I like Firefly/Serenity references as much as the next guy but I very much doubt that's one of them. You could just as easily say that anything featuring someone being spied on is a James Bond reference.
karlgookey 4 months ago 44
@karlgookey well it's close to a firefly/serenity reference that's why I found it noteworthy
Matt360UK 4 months ago
@karlgookey
It is a reference. Look at his face at 0.40. Knowing smirk.
ModPrime 3 months ago 4
@ModPrime Noooo, I know that is, I wouldn't have uploaded the video otherwise. I mean when Matt360UK said that Castle saying "maybe the passengers spied on him" was a reference to Firefly because of that alliance soldier that found Simon and River hiding on Firefly.
karlgookey 3 months ago 2
@karlgookey
Apologies. I was having problems with YT and it seems to have quoted the wrong person. I was meaning to say that to "Matt360UK".
ModPrime 3 months ago
Or I'm just way tired and shouldn't be trying to read right now.
ModPrime 3 months ago
@karlgookey the serenity bit yeah but I think the spying bit is a bit obtuse di you see the Halloween one when he dressed up as a space cowboy?
crusty2202 3 months ago
@ModPrime lol...
Wulfydragon 3 months ago
@karlgookey "You haven't heard of The Serenity?" is the reference dumbass.
50Calabyte 2 months ago
@50Calabyte Of course I know that. I'm the one that posted the video. The reply you mostly likely replied to is when I was telling someone that the Alliance mole spying on the Serenity crew wasn't a reference to James Bond.
karlgookey 2 months ago
@karlgookey Listen to the climax of the music though and then the cheeky smirk of Nate. It's there lol
barrymcoresome 2 months ago
@barrymcoresome I am the uploader of the video, of course I know it's there. The comment you're most likely replying to is the one in which Matt360UK says that people spying on the cab driver in this episode of Castle is a reference to the Alliance Mole spying on the crew in Firefly.
karlgookey 2 months ago
@karlgookey This is really strange, because I didn't reply to you hahaha. I replied to moeezS
barrymcoresome 1 month ago
there are 4 reasons i liked transformers 3:
1) the action
2) the hotchick
3)bumble bee
and 4) WASH FROM FIREFLY IS IN IT!! WOOO
plasm2 4 months ago 12
@plasm2 he was like the best part of that movie!
regina22333 4 months ago
Yeah, I wonder about what you said in the description! Probably Nathan-initiated :)
DestinysNinja 4 months ago
hmmm...ABC hinting at Firefly coming back...I wish :(
sirbeefofmatt 4 months ago
You haven't heard of the Serenity?
Heard of it? I bought it! I flew it!
In0tuhTR3KKi3 5 months ago 110
@In0tuhTR3KKi3 he named it ;)
crimsonpatty 3 months ago
@crimsonpatty Knew it. :]
In0tuhTR3KKi3 3 months ago
@In0tuhTR3KKi3 XD, it was in the episode "out of gas" were you see the scene were he says he has a name :p it was named after the battle of serenity vally were the brown coats basicly lost there foothold on the war. XD god i know to much about this show
crimsonpatty 3 months ago 3
@In0tuhTR3KKi3 I fought in it!
massivechicken01 3 months ago
"serenity is not le4se4!"
gleader 5 months ago
woulda been better if he picked up a knife to cut the apple
RicochetSaw 5 months ago 7
Thats so cool how they have these little references! Just one of the many reasons why Firefly should still be on tv!
bomtiff14 5 months ago
Also on the halloween episode when asked what he´s supposed to be he replies space pirate, and his costume looks uncannily like his captain outfit from firefly. :D
poddelta24 5 months ago
@poddelta24 It what his outfit from firefly.
EFSpartan 4 months ago
@EFSpartan It has a very very close resemblance to his outfit.
poddelta24 4 months ago
You've never heard of serenity?! *intense look*
Minimat5567 5 months ago 7
Holy shit, did this make me laugh.
350Zed 5 months ago
I love the tiny smirk... ah Nathan!
gigimc 5 months ago
GODANG IT FOX, JUST BRING BACK FIREFLY ALREADY! Geez!
FrostedPingu 5 months ago
Its just Serenity martha...
anenasigusta 5 months ago
I really was half expecting him to take a knife and cut the apple...
ellerinsook 5 months ago 11
Even the TV Show Castle wants Firefly back!!!!!
JessFromMead 5 months ago 9
oh gosh! I can't believe I missed that reference the first time I saw the episode!
MathUhhhSaurus 5 months ago
i like that, for that split second he almost looks at the camera, smashing the fourth wall.
CFaux220 5 months ago
@CFaux220 That's Nathan Fillion for you! oh I love him!
MathUhhhSaurus 5 months ago
@CFaux220 I think he was looking at Alexis.
felix3322 5 months ago
@felix3322 im sure he was, but it's almost right in the camera, a degree to his left and it would have been right in the lens.
CFaux220 5 months ago
@CFaux220 True, and I agree it does sorta break the realism. It is still really funny though.
felix3322 5 months ago
@felix3322 oh im not complaining, its subtle enough so that if you don't know the reference you'll miss it entirely, but clear enough so that if you do get the reference, it will be clear.
CFaux220 5 months ago
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@felix3322 oh im not complaining, its subtle enough so that if you don't know the reference you'll miss it entirely, but clear enough so that if you do get the reference, it will be clear.
CFaux220 5 months ago
Its just Serenity thanks...< A reference when Inara was captured on the Alliance ship in Bushwhacked...not to take any impact from this great scene.
mchief190 5 months ago
<--- MEAN MANAGER CONFRONTED!
speakup1212 6 months ago
He looks SICKLY alike Nathan Drake in the first Uncharted. Rereplaying all the seasons of Two Guys and A girl now, and he's a really cool actor! He's totally got the looks, the style and the humor of Nathan Drake.
AarlandSun 6 months ago
"You haven't heard of the Serenity?"
Nathan Fillion looks at the camera, thinking 'Is she kidding? I knew Serenity before it was cool...'
SpiketheHedgehog0 6 months ago 5
Am I the only one that was bothered that he wasn't cutting into that apple with a knife?
coleymolie 6 months ago 9
@coleymolie So glad another person caught that. Was certain the mother character would tell him to cut his apples, or something.
AnarchalPatriarch 6 months ago
My favorite theory is that Chuck and Castle happen in the same universe and not only Casey an ancestor of Jayne be Castle is an ancestor of Mal. Now, there just needs to be an awesome Chuck/Castle crossover!
kohakugirl 6 months ago 7
@kohakugirl No! Universe can explode!
LiarMD 6 months ago
Yeah, I dont think that was a refrence.
UnknownGunslinger 6 months ago
For the first half of the video I thought the 'reference' was the apple he was playing with.
HAVE A BITE OF THIS GREEN APPLE, AMERICA.
Matterialize 6 months ago 4
@Matterialize If the reference was the apple, he would have peeled around it in case there was a "griswald" hidden inside it. Don't worry, that could be the next reference. That look Nathan gives is just classic.
Madman007 6 months ago
I never got over it. Fox home, you made the worst decision in the 'verse on firefly. Really.
awenir 6 months ago
The writers have a knack for tipping their hats to all the cast and their past rolls - not just Nathan. At the Halloween party last season all the cast were dressed inn outfits from roles they had played in previous film/shows.
McBeanTIO 6 months ago
He aimed to misbehave.
YouCantDeleteDenzelL 6 months ago 2
When I first started viewing these "Firefly references in Castle" I thought they would be tenuous, esoteric snide winks - but Jesus! how much more BLATANT can the writers of this show be?!! These references are so OBVIOUS - and played that way as well. And I also wonder whether Fillion has a hand in them or whether the writers are just fanatics.
PoffyTheCucumber 6 months ago
@PoffyTheCucumber Nathan has never gotten over it. He's probably sadder than the Browncoats.
Mythezza 6 months ago
How did he not smile at that?
RomulusAaron 6 months ago
Don't Bite the apple, Captain! It's got a pressure sensitive bomb in it! You're supposed to cut it first! The Alliance is still trying to kill you!
MissRogueFighter 6 months ago 403
@MissRogueFighter when I saw the apple that is immediately where my mind went as far as a serenity reference.
Snakerunners 5 months ago
would have been better if he'd been cutting the apple with a knife
triangl 6 months ago 12
Episode?
krissiruseva 6 months ago
@krissiruseva season 3 episode 16 "Set Up"
anenasigusta 6 months ago
He was about to bite into the apple without cutting it up first!!!
dhampirmike 6 months ago
@dhampirmike lol yeah i was waiting for him to cut it open with a knife!
rockerseven 6 months ago
It's just "Serenity,' Not "The Serenity." Geeze... lol
Kingsknight531 6 months ago 2
ATTENTION EVERYONE: There is a movement forming to gather a couple hundred thousand people to pledge to donate money to Nathan Fillion or Joss Whedon to produce a SECOND SEASON of Firefly for online distribution. Go on facebook and like "Help Nathan Buy Firefly" or go to helpnathanbuyfirefly . com for more details. BOOST THE SIGNAL! GET THE WORD OUT!
Sararoth 6 months ago
@Sararoth You're a bit too late on that, sorry. When that movement started, it was going for roughly a week before Nathan Fillion said that he would only buy the rights to Firefly with his own money, not with other people's money. I'm sure Joss Whedon feels the same way. It got shot down pretty quickly, I'm surprised people are still behind it.
karlgookey 6 months ago