Sound like Deadmau5 with Linux Multimedia Studio in Under Ten Minutes

[NinjaShadow8]

Wow this is a great tutorial, sounds good

[RemixedlikeaBOSS]

Your GUI looks much prettier than mine... o.O Nice video. I'm currently migrating from SunVox. free Tracker. It's a great little software. It made a 8-bit sound too much though. I needed a different sound for my fans. I'm CrossBit on Soundcloud.

[MrFood239]

I don't know why, but mine came out with this horrible scratchy noise, right after I had done that Stereo Matrix stuff...and also, the Synth Pad is kind of pinchy O_O

[brainiac256]

@MrFood239 The synth pad instrument is really touchy. Small adjustments on the knobs can make huge differences in the sound. Hover over the knob and use your scroll-wheel to fine-tune the settings. (This is true of any knob in LMMS - scroll-wheel gives you more control than clicking and dragging.)

[doggysweep]

Awesome tutorial! Btw could you point me to any sites that can (in as plain a manner as possible) Explain what those little nobs do >_> I honestly just copied the angles off of you and nothing more. thanks for the tutorial!!!

[brainiac256]

@doggysweep Sound on Sound magazine - the Synth Secrets series (google "sound on sound synth secrets" and it should be the first or one of the first results)

That'll teach you how to use synths and create your own sounds basically from the ground up. If you're on Linux consider installing the 'ALSA Modular Synth' package so you can follow along. I'll be making some modular synth tutorials based on the Synth Secrets series sometime this year hopefully. (fingers crossed for a better computer)

[doggysweep]

@brainiac256 Alright thanks a ton! Btw do you think this program and a microphone would be enough to start an amateur production company? Me and a friend are gonna try to start one advertising and getting money from the hundreds of "wana be rappers" that go there.

[brainiac256]

@doggysweep if you really know what you're doing it would be adequate... don't use a crappy karaoke mic though (if the connection is a 1/4" like a guitar cable, or a 1/8" like a headset), at least get a USB mic like a Snowball. Also it depends on how 'finished' you want to sound. If you're just doing custom drum/bass loops and some sampling (which is like 60% of rap) you should be fine. Also you can get an LADSPA effect called 'autotalent' which is a free implementation of Autotune. Good luck :)

[MaxLittlemore]

FAKE!

That video is way more than 10 minutes.

--- seriously though, nice tutorial.

[Thechaosviper15]

I have the fuzzyish sound also, my OS is win 7 64, PC specs : i7 8 core processor 3.2 GHZ 4 1600 MHZ RAM, dual gtx 560m video cards, 500GB HDD, everything else I know works. My sisters sounds fine mine doesn't seem to sound good at all though, any help?

[brainiac256]

@Thechaosviper15 increasing your buffer size might help (see KevinTubeification's comment below) or changing your audio output mechanism (Simple DirectMedia Layer usually works pretty well). Your video card shouldn't have anything to do with it, what kind of sound card do you have?

[Dreamsreallystoned]

Sounds like basshunter, not deadmau5^^

[KevinTubeification]

@006ruler i know your problem with the bad sounds. I had that problem at the beginning. After an hour i figured out what was the problem. If you want clear sounds, u should go to settings, and put your phrames on 2816. Its the upper bar wich you can see right when you open settings. If u applied those settings, and restarted LMMS, the sounds should sound clear. Good luck! :)

[hiddeninja999]

how do i bring up the oscillator?

[RoshWilliams]

wonderful tutorial!

[orichimaru91]

THANK YOU SOO MUCH THIS WAS AMAZING. Now all I need is a way to slowly decrease the volume as the song starts and ends...

[kotzebrechekotze]

Awesome. Could you make a tutorial à la Skrillex next time :P

[006ruler]

Ok, people, thanks. Stop telling me how to fix it now...

>.>

[natnatertatertot]

So did you ever complete this song?

[brainiac256]

@natnatertatertot sorry I lost your comment here, this was just a quick thing I did for the tutorial vid because I saw that there wasn't a lot of quality LMMS instructional material on youtube. my own material tends to be less dancey and more instrumental than this, check me out on soundcloud - my username is also brainiac256 there.

[natnatertatertot]

@brainiac256 lol, well I've been using this a lot, many thanks :3

[wisllykinki1]

thk for ur sharing, i benefit from this video

[yeeee75]

i dont have the white dots for the piano roll what the hell? some one help please !

[bcbudful]

Great work man and thank you for this majestic tutorial...many thanks and peace from calgary.

[006ruler]

mmmkkkaaayyy... Good vid, but all the sounds available to me sound shitty, crackly, don't sound like anything. Please... help me... Why does yours sound good and my sounds sound like they're being played through a first-generation radio?

[brainiac256]

@006ruler need more information. What operating system, computer specs, anything you can tell me about the sound subsystem (if on linux) would be helpful (i.e. maybe you're using a recent-but-not-new version of ubuntu, which came packaged with a poorly-configured version of PulseAudio, which is causing your problems)

[Nugitt]

@brainiac256 lmao this sounds nothing like deadmau5 would do...

[CrashHavokTV]

@006ruler change your audio output I believe. I had the same problem, now I don't.

[wisllykinki1]

@006ruler GO EDIT->SETTING-->OUTPUT(speaker sign)-->window direct sound-->speaker

[Azereiah]

@006ruler That means you need a better audio card. The sounds in LMMS are synthed on the spot, and most of the tools it comes with multi-layer the sounds, so you've got somewhere around 400,000 samples per second being played, on way more than 8 sound channels. Sound quality dies when your card isn't fast enough, and channels are cut down when they surpass the limit.

[Skepsis0Metal]

Sounds like the synth from Ghosts N Stuff

[Orpheon71]

Why is side-chaining so hard? There's an easy way to do it with the peak controller.

brycecoulson com/tutorials/sidechain/

[brainiac256]

@Orpheon71 peak controller is buggy and tends to sound crackly--it's not a smooth, continuous volume modulation like the compressor is, so you get level jumps which manifest as crackling. At least it always did when I used it.

[Deisinoful]

Pal, any idea on how to change the lenght of the measure during the song? By shortenig the measure form 4/4 to 2/4 with the automation track it's alright as long as I play it in run time, but when I export it to wav it's aborted on the point of the change. Thank you.

[Kycklingstek]

Awesome video! Liked and favourited. :D

[greek1213]

how come when you overlap nots it chops

but not good chops

[FAKEmusicPRO]

gonna sound like a dead mouse when finished... hahaha

[MrPrinceAsmoday]

This video is so old, but i have to ask, when you make the silent beat things right bore 13:00 It wouldnt do it for me :< I did everything on there

[numbrain2go]

OOOOOOOOOOOR- you could just modulate the volume of the organ.

[numbrain2go]

ps, you could also put a compressor on the organ and use an lfo to modulate the threshold

[cunoLein]

you sound like the postal dude

[xxKillerMillerxx1]

would be nice if you actually said what you were putting the knobs to in occilator instead of me wasting a shit load of time trying to figure it out

[brainiac256]

@xxKillerMillerxx1

1. Go to google

2. Search "sound on sound synth secrets"

3. Read

4. Learn

5. ???

6. Profit

[alexm51995]

@brainiac256 lol south park

[joshuaras1]

respect man, esspecially with lmms, and i thought i had sidechaining hard wif ableton.

[TheRealDJang]

wow thats amazing! great job!! please listen my songs, I also use lmms:)

[AVScilian]

MORE PLEASE MORE!

[BlackTofu22]

holy crap this is awesome.

[bennykn69]

Thx dude i enjoyed watchin it and learned alot more bout the program

[marinbareta]

nice tutorial. just an advice for next time: deadmau5 is somewhere around 128-130 BPM, and you were at 140. big big difference.

[KenLopezYokohama]

i downloaded the calf compressor. now where do i put the folder?

[brainiac256]

@KenLopezYokohama find your operating system's default LADSPA plugin directory. it should be listed in the LMMS settings -> folders.

[KenLopezYokohama]

@brainiac256 i dont really understand. once i find it what do i do then?

[brainiac256]

@KenLopezYokohama if you're on windows and you got the 'calf.dll' file then you just drop that file in the LADSPA plugin directory. I think recent versions of LMMS for windows come with calf.dll--I can't remember where I got it. if you're on linux you'll have to compile the plugins because all you get is the source code.

[KenLopezYokohama]

@brainiac256 when i extract it. It becomes a folder. i dont know where the Ladspa plugin directory is. and im using windows. btw thx for trying to help me

[brainiac256]

@KenLopezYokohama I'll have to boot up my Windows machine tomorrow and try to remember what I did there. Expect a PM in your inbox in a day or two with more detailed information.

[ThatAnnoyingPSNKid]

Great tutorial haha this took me at least an hour just because I copied every little step you did :P

[starwarspunk]

very good tutorial! nice job.

[dragonballzssj12goku]

why is it all my bass sounds all gargley? Please help

[brainiac256]

@dragonballzssj12goku I need more info -- what plugin are you using, what sound do you actually want

[dragonballzssj12goku]

@brainiac256 i took the starting bass you took and it sounded like a long, old, mechanic fart.

[TheGNUfan]

I couldn't get my Synth Pad to sound like yours. :/

[brainiac256]

@TheGNUfan Keep tweaking it until it sounds good to you. Your ears are your ultimate boss.

[05CAR7AN15]

ok, i didn't see the message at the end when i typed that...

[e3a2er]

OMG your my hero. Looks like you have a deep understanding of music production and lmms as well. +1 Subscriber I'm looking forward to more awesome tutorials :)

[Angel666Crusher]

thank you

[mintDesktop]

There is also 'Calf Sidechain Compressor', any difference over normal Compressor? Could this be used ?

[brainiac256]

@mintDesktop It's based on the same code but I can't find documentation anywhere on the different settings. From preliminary exploration, it seems that you would put the Sidechain Compressor on the channel you want to compress, put a Peak Controller on your sidechain channel (the kick for example) and connect the "SC/Listen" toggle on the compressor to the Peak Controller, then set F1 Level and F2 Level to their minimum.

[ardukar]

First of all I have to shout out a big THANK YOU!!!!!.....!! for this Tutorial.

I was half way out of "making music", because I never found someone explaining the things going on like you did.

I mean, I often made some beats, played with synths etc. but I just never found a way to make it sound like I wanted it to.

Your Video just kicked me back into!

Thank you again! I just reinstalled lmms, remade my Jack-settings and got me some plugins.

More tutorials are highly appreciated!

[AypexLol]

Whenever I play a sound it sounds scratchy. Is there any way to fix this. Sorry, new to LMMS.

[brainiac256]

@AypexLol I need more information to help you. It could be an audio setup problem. Are you on Ubuntu? LMMS doesn't like pulseaudio as well as it likes ALSA; you can force it to use pulse, but you'll be trading the scratchy sound for bad latency. Go to Edit > Settings > and look for the tab that has the Audio Device setting and set it to pulseaudio.

[AypexLol]

@brainiac256

I'm running anything else. Just downloaded it and it has scratchy sound whenever I play anything.

[AypexLol]

@brainiac256

I lied. It's working fine now.

=

[polariseke]

Your good! I've really enjoyed watching you work and mouthing all those terms I have no clue about. It's amazing that music can get so technical yet we consume it so easily.

[fckthissite]

This is a great tutorial. Where did you learn how to use all the in-depth tools of LMMS and general plugins?

[DTlucky13]

i can't open the fucking pad piano

[brainiac256]

@DTlucky13 Please elaborate, maybe i can help

[DTlucky13]

@brainiac256 ok i got it(:

But when it try the piano thing on organic it sounds horrible like this scratchy sound

[brainiac256]

@DTlucky13 could be you don't have enough processor power for live playback. Open one of the sample projects; does it sound scratchy when you hit play? if it doesn't, maybe you programmed the organic instrument poorly. my other recommendation is to get rid of PulseAudio if you're using it, it takes too many resources and isn't worth it.

[DTlucky13]

@brainiac256 I restrarted the whole thing and it turned out great!

[duntkerr]

This was extremely fucking helpful.

[soulknifehunter]

This is a phenomenal tutorial (So good I even subscribed). You did an excellent job and displaying how to sidechain in lmms. So I am piping pulse through jack and my latency right now seems to be about 52ms which is horrific when I'm trying to use my midi keyboard with lmms. Anyway I can drop that down the latency (I do not have a real time kernel).

[brainiac256]

@soulknifehunter PulseAudio? Sorry, can't help you with that. I haven't touched Pulse in years. I assume you're on Ubuntu? Installing a realtime kernel is fairly straightforward. As I understand it, the 'glass ceiling' for latency is the MIDI module, which relies on the system timer, and the better timer requires the realtime kernel.

My other suggestion would be to throw out Pulse and just use jack. Every Linux audio pro I've heard of recommends against Pulse.

[soulknifehunter]

@brainiac256 Actually I'm running Arch with KDE. I pipe pulse through jack. Basically I have it set up so the apps that do not use jack can put their audio to pulse which is then piped to the jack audio server.

So do u run Jack with alsa then, or just straight up jack? If so can u setup jack to work with gnash/klash/flashplayer?

[brainiac256]

@soulknifehunter That makes sense. I run jack on top of alsa. You might look into "alsa-oss" which is a wrapper for OSS programs (which is what pulse is based on if I recall correctly). It's like what you're doing with pulse except designed to do only that while pulse has a bunch of features that you're not using.

Replacing Pulse is your best bet. Pulse has issues with Flash playback especially. I'll research gnash a bit and see what the specifics for that are.

[soulknifehunter]

@brainiac256 Are you able to watch flash vids while using jack?

[Saiskar]

Very nice. But don't say it will sound like deadmau5! He's a wizard!

[TehEspaaK]

whoa been looking for a tutorial like this for lmms for AGES!

so glad you made this bro! helped me sooo much!! :D

[pr0stAta]

Awesome work dude!

I installed this programme about 60 minutes ago and was completely overstrained. But after your tutorial I can resume working with it, even though it was not mentioned that it was for beginners.

Really nice!

[unfa00]

Many thanks, dude!

Good to see that I'am not the only one who is playing with LMMS ;)

And good to see someone so expierienced in action with it :)

Despite some technical flaws (audio lag) your video is perfect. Well done, thanks again! ;) Lot's of great stuff for beginners here.

[brainiac256]

@unfa00, thanks for your comments. There is some screwy memory issue happening which causes increasing audio lag over the course of the recording. If I wanted to invest the time I could edit it in MHWaveEdit or Audacity or something but I'm quite lazy :) Also I wish they would fix the MIDI routing again too, it drops often and doesn't restore from saved mmpz's. I like layering my samples for thickness and it's a lot easier with the MIDI routing.

[unfa00]

@brainiac256 Yeah, MIDI routing is acting randomly on loading project. Also some more flexible audio signal routing would be nice :) I'am looking forward to Unison Studio, a successor of LMMS (under development).

[brainiac256]

@unfa00 Getting stereo signal from both my mic and LMMS was a real trick. What I wound up doing was putting the mic signal into one instance of JACK Rack and amping and EQ'ing it a little then routing that and LMMS into yet another instance of JACK Rack and recording from that with gtkRecordMyDesktop. Having so much stuff open could be the source of my lag I guess but I wanted the good signal quality.

Will Unison have audio in/recording capabilities? I can't find much about it.

[unfa00]

@brainiac256 AFAIK it will be a bit more like Ardour, letting you to record live audio inside it, edit it, route stuff in crazy ways. As the project leader - Paul Giblock states, Unison Studio is a kind of 'new core' for LMMS, as LMMS's poor planing led to a place where adding new features is really difficult. So those guys are now working on it in Github (google "pgiblox/unison" to get there). I think devs are wanted, because the more good people go around, the faster it will be [contiuned...]

[unfa00]

[...contiuned] functional. You can get more information about Unison on LMMS's IRC channel (#lmms) on freenode.

[SolfyHuskypaw]

Peace out is not that modern, But i love it.

[bearsoundz]

interesting method with great result!

br.

[pauljs75]

Neat. It helps to see somebody with much more experience in this kind of stuff explain things. Also is there an advantage to using the Calf compressor + stereophonic matrix instead of the Peak Controller under one FX with another FX slider volume assigned to it under its right click menu? (Maybe I'm an ignorant newb, but the result seems very similar.) And yeah, the Peak controller is listed under effects for some reason even though it drops into the control box.

[brainiac256]

@pauljs75 You could go either way. With the Peak Controller you can retain the stereo width from the plugin since you can put the synth and kick in separate FX channels and not have to take out the right side or left side. My experience with the Peak Controller is that it's great for vocal ducking a la DJ'ing or MC'ing, but you can't control the Decay as well which is important for timing of the pumping synth - at least in my experience. (Continued...)

[brainiac256]

@pauljs75 (Continued...) I have played around with using the Peak Controller and it just didn't 'feel' right and didn't let me control the timing as well. As always, your mileage may vary, use your artistic judgment to determine what's best for your track.

And yeah, the reason you need to add the Peak Controller as an effect insert is that it requires audio input and that's currently the only way to do that. It does make sidechaining hard.

[unfa00]

@brainiac256 Hi. When I want to make a sidechain comp, I duplicate my kick, modify it so it has a bigger decay (because I mostly use TripleOsc for drums). I also turn the base note much higher to increase the "density" of the peak kick waveform as peak controller tends to stutter on (s)low sine waves which introduces clicks. I also liked to route the peaking kick to the first one with MIDI routing but it works rather randomly in 0.4.8 so I don't do it any more.

[SuperLinuxAudioGuru]

in gtk-recordmydesktop change the sound setting from "DEFAULT" to "default" then you should be able to use alsa or pulseaudio and wire in your mic to the mix through your software mixer, i get better results from actually running this in the terminal  > recordmydesktop --fps 25 --width 1350 --height 768 --v_quality 63 --v_bitrate 2000000 --channels 2 --freq 44100 -o video.ogv. although you may need to adjust the height and width to suit your screen

[brainiac256]

@SuperLinuxAudioGuru Thanks for the suggestion! I'll practice with that and put it to use in some future tutorial vids.

[unfa00]

@brainiac256 I've tried to do some videotuts too, and I coudn't get recordMyDesktop to record stereo signal from JACK. Only mono. I done my routing and mixing of LMMS out and microphone in JACK and recorded it to mono. I also tried to record sound separately with TimeMachine but I coudn't sychronize audio/video well later.