My grandfather was a pinboy when he was about 12 years old, the "big shots" that would come into the alley where he worked would tip the pinboys nickels and dimes and throw them down the gutter to them if they bowled good. Sort of like how someone tips the dealer at a casino if they are doing good lol. As he got older he would bowl pros after hours in cash games, that's when he did his best bowling lol.
I remember watching Don Carter bowl in the Houston, TX PBA tournaments in the early 1960's. There were many greats there including Billy Hardwick, Dick Weber, Billy Welu, Carmen Salvino, Bill Lillard and many more. Those were the gibbest names I remember. I was about 13 or 14 years old. I turned pro when I was 15 years ago. I won the Houston City Junior Championship when I was 12 with a ball drilled by Jack Biondolillo. WQhat great times.
Is it possible for you to find a clip of the old filmed series "Championship Bowling," which I think came out shortly after this clip was made? Fred Wolf was the announcer on that as well. That was my introduction to bowling, a sport I have loved for almost all of my life.
I wasa stunned that there were pin boys. I had thought that automatic pinsetters had pretty much replaced pin boys by 1952.
I was also surprised this was a network (ABC) broadcast. I thought at first that it may have been shown only in the city where this tournament was held.
AMF introduced the first commercial automatic pinspotters in 1952, model 8230. Much to Brunswick's horror! Brunswick did not have a working machine until 1956, model A.
What I'm looking for is the match between Carter and Dick Weber on Oct.27,1963 at the Bowl-o-Drome in North Arlington,NJ as part of the CBS Sports Spectacular.
I sat right next to Lindsey Nelson,the announcer for the match.Carter won easily.
I could definitely see how Carter could dominate bowling in the 50's. His style is certainly unusual by today's standards, but his delivery is actually pretty smooth.
Two-fingered bowling balls IIRC were just starting to decline in popularity in the early '50s; also, Ed Lubanski (who is mentioned) rolled a two-holer. It looks as though the person fingering the ball was possibly used to a two-holer too.
For some reason, in the late 70's ABC rebroadcast a tournament from 1966. Anyway, Don Carter is already in the afternoon of his career, and its amazing how different his style was in 1966. He took much more time before his approach, his approach was much slower, he threw the ball slower but with more revs (straight revs, that is), and was more smooth. To be honest, watching him bowl in 1966, it was hard to believe that he was for 10 years the best bowler in the world.
Without a doubt, absolutely amazing footage. Keep up the great work!
What amazed me most, I think, is how subdued the crowd was. But perhaps that was out of respect for the competitors, especially Carter. Things have certainly changed a lot in 57 years.
@kevindh71 Yes they have. I started bowling in 1957. My Mom took me to Merchants Park Lanes in Houston, TX. We were poor and My Mom wanted to do a little splurge for me. I had never bowled before. We didn't really have the money, but she wanted to do something for me. Only I was bowling, I guess she knew I felt left out of life. And, I don't know why bowling? Anyway, I didn't want to pay for shoe rental, but she made me rent them. I think I was eight yers old.
@kevindh71 Good Observation about the crowd being subdued out of respect. This was long before the flamboyant, in your face, hot dog era which began in the 1980's. If society as a whole would go back to the
respect of those days, crime would drop faster than Don Carter dropped pins but I am not holding my breath
Don Carter seems to have no pushaway, minimal backswing and looks as if he pushes the ball down the lane....amazing how he racked up those big scores. Great upload. We want more !
Well if I'm right about why he did that was because he was a baseball pitcher before a full time bowler so he used his arm strenght to his advantage and used that sought of an approach, some chinese call the Pitcher approach.
One of my early heroes from a sport I've always love. RIP Mr. Carter.
WSenator1 1 month ago
RIP MY FRIEND.!!
mrclubfoot100 1 month ago in playlist Don Carter
Don Carter 1916-2012 Rest in peace, Don, you were the best!
artfay69 1 month ago 3
RIP Don....
generalbullmoose 1 month ago
My grandfather was a pinboy when he was about 12 years old, the "big shots" that would come into the alley where he worked would tip the pinboys nickels and dimes and throw them down the gutter to them if they bowled good. Sort of like how someone tips the dealer at a casino if they are doing good lol. As he got older he would bowl pros after hours in cash games, that's when he did his best bowling lol.
wiiman0001 3 months ago
bowled on a manual lane in 1920. My ball hit the pinboy in the head and kill't him. oh well
joshster89 3 months ago
1:38 - Look at the scores. Carter 588 for a series. McMahon 533. Those were the days when a 200 was a great game!!!
rstp354 5 months ago 3
I remember watching Don Carter bowl in the Houston, TX PBA tournaments in the early 1960's. There were many greats there including Billy Hardwick, Dick Weber, Billy Welu, Carmen Salvino, Bill Lillard and many more. Those were the gibbest names I remember. I was about 13 or 14 years old. I turned pro when I was 15 years ago. I won the Houston City Junior Championship when I was 12 with a ball drilled by Jack Biondolillo. WQhat great times.
slkaiser69 7 months ago
Seeing those kids back there makes me wonder if they ever got hit in the shins by a bowling ball.......probably.
gamemeister27 8 months ago
1:27
Wait a minute. It's THESE two fingers, right?
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naskicolta 1 year ago
I love this! Noticed that Don Carter must have bowled for the Pfeiffer's Beer team out of Detroit (notice his shirt).
50dcoop 1 year ago
Is it possible for you to find a clip of the old filmed series "Championship Bowling," which I think came out shortly after this clip was made? Fred Wolf was the announcer on that as well. That was my introduction to bowling, a sport I have loved for almost all of my life.
WSenator1 1 year ago
@WSenator1 same story for me....Champion Bowling was cool.....
patk2344 1 month ago
I could watch this all day. Don Carter is so fascinating to watch. Priceless footage. Thank you.
steelydanbowler 1 year ago
I wasa stunned that there were pin boys. I had thought that automatic pinsetters had pretty much replaced pin boys by 1952.
I was also surprised this was a network (ABC) broadcast. I thought at first that it may have been shown only in the city where this tournament was held.
altfactor 1 year ago
@altfactor
AMF introduced the first commercial automatic pinspotters in 1952, model 8230. Much to Brunswick's horror! Brunswick did not have a working machine until 1956, model A.
vitaphonedisc 1 year ago
What I'm looking for is the match between Carter and Dick Weber on Oct.27,1963 at the Bowl-o-Drome in North Arlington,NJ as part of the CBS Sports Spectacular.
I sat right next to Lindsey Nelson,the announcer for the match.Carter won easily.
rentslave 1 year ago
I could definitely see how Carter could dominate bowling in the 50's. His style is certainly unusual by today's standards, but his delivery is actually pretty smooth.
ForeverYoung58 2 years ago
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dougcondor 2 years ago
Pin boy? More like Pin MAN! Hehehe.... The guy's even smoking a cigarette when he jumps into the pit and collects the pins.
groinkcaps 2 years ago
An OOPS in the live commercial - the guy puts the wrong fingers in the ball!!!
rstp354 2 years ago 2
Good observation.
Two-fingered bowling balls IIRC were just starting to decline in popularity in the early '50s; also, Ed Lubanski (who is mentioned) rolled a two-holer. It looks as though the person fingering the ball was possibly used to a two-holer too.
NipkowDisk 2 years ago
This was back when a 200 was quite an achievemant - Don Carter bowled a 588 and had no trouble winning.
Love the Peterson point system - 1 point for a win and 1 point for every 50 pins if I remember correctly.
rstp354 2 years ago
For some reason, in the late 70's ABC rebroadcast a tournament from 1966. Anyway, Don Carter is already in the afternoon of his career, and its amazing how different his style was in 1966. He took much more time before his approach, his approach was much slower, he threw the ball slower but with more revs (straight revs, that is), and was more smooth. To be honest, watching him bowl in 1966, it was hard to believe that he was for 10 years the best bowler in the world.
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ForeverYoung58 2 years ago
Without a doubt, absolutely amazing footage. Keep up the great work!
What amazed me most, I think, is how subdued the crowd was. But perhaps that was out of respect for the competitors, especially Carter. Things have certainly changed a lot in 57 years.
kevindh71 2 years ago 4
@kevindh71 Yes they have. I started bowling in 1957. My Mom took me to Merchants Park Lanes in Houston, TX. We were poor and My Mom wanted to do a little splurge for me. I had never bowled before. We didn't really have the money, but she wanted to do something for me. Only I was bowling, I guess she knew I felt left out of life. And, I don't know why bowling? Anyway, I didn't want to pay for shoe rental, but she made me rent them. I think I was eight yers old.
slkaiser69 7 months ago
@kevindh71 Good Observation about the crowd being subdued out of respect. This was long before the flamboyant, in your face, hot dog era which began in the 1980's. If society as a whole would go back to the
respect of those days, crime would drop faster than Don Carter dropped pins but I am not holding my breath
waiting for this to happen.
eaglesyz 4 months ago
6:13 - The pinboy has a cigarette hanging out of this mouth. Priceless!
themrfreeze07 2 years ago 9
Don Carter seems to have no pushaway, minimal backswing and looks as if he pushes the ball down the lane....amazing how he racked up those big scores. Great upload. We want more !
thiswilldoblue 2 years ago 3
Well if I'm right about why he did that was because he was a baseball pitcher before a full time bowler so he used his arm strenght to his advantage and used that sought of an approach, some chinese call the Pitcher approach.
jastan94 2 years ago
wow... thanks a bunch
I finally got to watch don carter in his hey day thanks bowlingoldies
len040484 2 years ago 3