@astrophoenix NO you seem to have it all wrong. First of all, the people who killed all those " non believers" didn't know better and misinterpreted God's word. Secondly, I'm just asking questions because I don't understand the mindset of them. Sorry for not knowing everything.
I feel a different perspective after talking with others (assuming atheist). I always thought that people like them were careless losers. I now know that these people have very good values to offer. I feel bad as a representative of my faith. I apologize to all those i've tried to disprove. I will respect your beliefs and I hope you will do the same for me. God bless you all!
Have you ever heard of Satan? Or the fall of man? Or when the serpent was cunning enough to twist things in this world to twist God's Word? Obviously if God loves us, then He won't just MAKE bad things happen to "GOOD" people. The Bible very well harmonizes with itself. Have you ever read the Bible? James 1:13 says that He does not tempt us. Anything not of God is of the world, sin, satan.
@Lindsikan why even quote the bible? its useless. just because it has quotes from this god character doesnt mean its actually the creator of the universe speaking.
blatantly obvious the guys who wrote the bible made up god/jebus's words. thats why the omnicient, omnipotent, omnipresent being sounds like a fucking retard at times.
the creator of the universe has the same level of education as someone with a serious brain injury
@AtheistToothFairy yeagh you are right, the creator the universe doesnt even know his own laws of physics. first page too, doesnt get off to a good start does he ha!!
@1984LizardKing:"creator the universe doesnt even know his own laws of physics. first page too, doesnt get off to a good start does he"
It's just so freaking OBVIOUS that this holy book of theirs, was written by ignorant men and that no advance being of any kind helped them in any way, let alone their 'god'
@Watergun8770 Jesus answered them, “"Has it not been written in your Law, ‘'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS'? That Spirit within us, that "Image of God' is a Spirit within man. Atheists are here constantly because they are fighting that Spirit within them. The only peace they will have is peace in God. Without that life is a crap shoot. They roll the dice, but cannot win.
Since we are here on a website that places claims there is no God. then of course the burden is on those that are here to prove that claim. Show me the proof that God does not exist. I have enough reasons God exists to last for hours. But its an Atheist video, so its up to the Atheists to prove. Show me.
@Watergun8770 There really is transcendent potential,and its verified,not theory, objects really do have connections outside of space and time. When an atom emits two photons, going opposite ways, somehow these photons affect one anothers behavior at a distance, without exchanging any signals through space, they instantly affect each other. Holy Cow, Sherlock, Shades of the Spirit connection do exist. This totally confounds Einsteins theory as light is faster than anything .
@40something100 "every" is a very strong word. Imagination draws on our varied experiences in most cases I would say. Having said that I often wonder where the objects of my dreams and hallucinations come from. The subconscious is a mysterious absorber of all kinds of information that perhaps is the wellspring of epiphany and nightmares.
@yankinCanada i have argued this point before,and i believe it's true. even those things in dreams, and our imagination,are all built on something we have knowledge of either through direct contact with, such as things observed or through a knowledge of by way of evidence and then modified in our mind. the monsters in our dreams and imagination are modifications of things we know of in our everyday live just exagerated.
@MrJerryTodd1960 Quantum Science cannot explain why our reaction in the brain is accomplished before the stimuli to the brain to affect that same action occurs. Before the eyes register. What is that reactions cause? And why do our thoughts affect things around us? Is the soul our consciousness? Is that the "image" of God, the piece of his "spirit" that allows us to be above all creatures.
@Watergun8770 I agree, The Image of God is our resemblance to God in the power of reason and will, our soul, consciousness, our function, giving us dominion, to rule the earth and all creatures. The Spirit is the connection, the communication, from the soul to God, Our essence as God gave for our eternal life to rejoin our soul and new bodies after judgement.
@yankinCanada so what your saying is that there is no such thing as a truly original idea, but every new idea or concept is built on something seen or known of and modified to fit the desired application?
Overall, can you prove there's no God? Those questions are nice, but let me throw some at you: where did it all come from? Where did the entire universe come from? How is such a vast universe so fine-tuned that life could exist here on this planet? Where did our morals come from?
@jcs101194 You are probably right. I'm no expert but you don't need to be a neurologist to know that the brain is a sea of electrical activity and from all of that we have self awareness.
Can you prove God didn't make the world in 6 days? Can you prove there was no worldwide flood? Can you prove Jonah didn't live in a fish's stomach for three days? Can you prove that God didn't create Adam from a handful of dust?
The spirit from God was created and as the Bible says that God knew us before we were placed in the womb is likely the scenario of our being itself, our consciousness so to speak. You may say that Quantum entanglement bear out that same reality. Our spirit can leave the body and float in the universe and be brought back into the body, as some have claimed in near death experiences.
@MrJerryTodd1960 Where? Genesis Book 1, verses 1 to 4. Basically the God Particle or Higgs Boson is very likely a big part on the beginning of the universe and all matter.
@MrJerryTodd1960 1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. The first( beginning) The higgs field by interacting with itself, the unstable stationary point at the top, and the stationary point at the bottom of the potential. The heaven and the earth potential exists, in effect it IS.
@MrJerryTodd1960 2. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. The vacuam kept the sea of radiation in a state without internal structure, and the electromagnetic interactions, and or light were in a mix and or unification with other electromagnetic and or other electroweak gauge bosons. There are 4 parts to this.
@FourDeuce01 Proof , What kind of proof, and how much is enough?. Scientific, historical,philosophical,moral or personal . Can we Prove henry the 8th existed, historically yes , beyond reasonable doubt, but Scientifically impossible. But then the Big bang, shows a beginning of , and spreading out universe, as the Bible said and evidently was right 5000 years before science. Who told them? Science did not exist. Bible right Science wrong, Proof?
@FourDeuce01 Gods existence cannot be dismissed as it is outside the emperical realm. We believe as in Romans 1:19, men can come to knowledge of God by natural reason. Asking for proof proves conclusively that the burden is on the non believer,otherwise what is the point for them. If God is real you dissapear for eternity. Do you somehow think that If God is not, anything is permissible. That logic never works. It seems that all Atheism can give you, is depression, suicide
@Watergun8770 True,What the Fibonacci ratio and its structures do offer is incredible beauty. The whole creation is teeming with examples of beauty that are not essential to function, but have appeal to minds that can comprehend and appreciate it. Attempting to ascribe such beauty to chance falls woefully short of supplying a satisfactory explanation.How can natural selection explain it? A designer is the only possibility.
@Watergun8770 According to Quantum physics consciousness collapses wave functions and thereby creates reality. Subatomic particles do not assume definite properties when it interacts with a measuring device UNLESS the reading of that measuring device is registered in the mind of an observer. So the universe could not exist without an observer. And objects remain in a state of actuality,ONLY so long as they are being observed.So God was necessary in the beginning,and we affect all
@Watergun8770 The implications can literally be that everything begins with consciousness, and consciousness is the ground base of all being. Then in fact our free will IS real. We are causal power, and in all things, creativity, and even morality we are actually witnessing downward causation by consciousness.
@MrJerryTodd1960 3. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. The Higgs field in suffecient quantum numbers preserved the unbroken symmetry of light. wheras light particle remained light.
@MrJerryTodd1960 4. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. The Higgs field interacted with light , by virtual loops of W bosons and top quarks , that is, to see it, so the occurance of vanishing tree level interactions produced the suffecient quantum number sourcing interaction by the exchange of virtual light particles became a good quantum number , that is the electric charge . The entire Universe did light up. CMF
@MrJerryTodd1960 After the Big Bang the universe was a high energy state called plasma(as plasma TV). It exists in the core of the sun and the early universe. Not tied to their parent nuclei made it opaque to any form of light,trapped in a cage of plasma. This cooled,expanded and stabilized. The dissipation of wondering elections released that light from its cage, lit the universe and even after expanding its still measurable even today(CMB). "divided the light from darkness"
@Watergun8770 I'm done with you and your idiocy wateryshit. There is no shortage of information for you to research about neurobiology etc. You won't.
Code for: You have me up against the wall, Watergun. I cant answer those questions because I'm a fucking pussy, and because I simply dont KNOW the answers. I know they point to the soul, but I cant admit that the soul exists.
@yankinCanada i agree, ideas are built on previous experiences, but the person who thought up the combustion engine for example had a very specific thought for a new way to power a machine had to think of an original design there was no memory to build off of no previous experiences it was all new.
@40something100 You have a subconscious, a memory center and constant sensory inputs. All of which lead to electrical activity that cascades into and triggers conscious thought.
@yankinCanada interesting scenerio, however, thoughts don't alway follow this particular pattern, new ideas don't come from the memory center, or the subconscious, the are inspired by outside stimulation, but the person who thought about building the internal combustion engine had no memory of one, nor was it part of their subconscious, so there is no cascade effect toward conscious thought.
Its sort of shocking that you would get so many thumbs down (even though its mostly thumbs up). I'm guessing that some people don't actually watch the video and just thumbs down if they cross even one thing that makes them think.
@jcs101194 true you can apply these questions to things like "loch Ness Monster" "Yeti" "aliens" and more if you actually think these logically and rationally you come to similar conclusions
@graffffik You know, there's quite a lot of planets out their for aliens not to exists, and if aliens just so happen not to exist then that would be rather unfortunate to be the only intelligent life forms.
@jcs101194 Yes but aliens in general are the same basic things as angels and / or demons - Creatures "out to get you" or "out to save you" they are fundamentally a religious "belief system" when you actually look at it it requires "faith" to believe in them - and it's always a good or evil alien - It is also created via paranoia of mass-media like movies
@graffffik Dawkins comments,concedes that life might indeed have a designer, but that designer almost assuredly was a more highly evolved being from another planet,not God. His statement about aliens may have created life was totally airheaded and admitting intelligent design,but basically said nothing. Aliens? then where did the Aliens come from? Circular reasoning / That why Dawkins wont debate, basically he cant do it without screwing up.
@graffffik Well then, that depends on what your definition of the word "aliens" I can mathematically prove to you through probability that aliens do exist (well almost). Speaking of aliens how do you feel about the space program's untimely departure. I personally believe that under the given financial circumstances it was the right thing to do. Unfortunately.
The chemical reactions and the electrical activity of a brain make a sense of self awareness we call the mind.
The brain isn't fucking waiting for an OUTSIDE agency to tell it what the fuck to do.
A living brain with large frontal lobes seems to allow for self awareness via electrical activity occuring inside of it. The brain is part and parcel of a fucking mind you piece of dog shit.
@yankinCanada if your thoughts which are part of your self awareness then which comes first the electrical stimulation or the thought? if the electrical stimulation is first then how is it we can control our thoughts if the latter where do the thoughts originate.
@AtheistToothFairy are you suggesting that animals think? i don't think so, some animals can demonstrate an ability to calculate which prey they will persue but it is not thinking it is pure instinct. they learn behavioral patterns from parents. they do not, nor can it be shown that they have indepentant thought. chimps can learn, and use things like sign language, which you might argue requires thought but, they are merely repeating, with no real understanding of what their doing.
@AtheistToothFairy i have to ask if these animals are truly thinking then why are seemingly unable to change their situation, what i mean by that is if a dolphin can actually think as studies show then why are they unable to avoid tuna nets. thinking involves many aspects including communication, problem solving, abstact ideas, self awareness to name a few, there are many others directly connected to thought. and you still haven't answered the original question.
@40something100:" if a dolphin can actually think as studies show then why are they unable to avoid tuna nets"
So because they sometimes get caught in nets, you conclude that they lack the ability to 'think'?
The ability to avoid traps, comes with experience and intelligence, and just because they aren't at our 'level', doesn't at all mean they're not 'thinking'
@FourDeuce01 you may be just another animal, but i consider myself to be better than the animal kingdom, you might say that i'm arrogant, so what. if animals could really think then we wouldn't dominate them as we do, our zoos would be empty and we would probobly be close to the bottom of the food chain. i can't read their non minds, because there's nothing to read.
@40something100 **i consider myself to be better than the animal kingdom**
When Jesus was described as "The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world." (John 1:29). Also, "The Lion of the tribe of Judah" (Revelation 5:5). And it is interesting to note that He was born in a stable among animals rather than in an inn. Obviously animal Kingdom are like testicles to God ! Question is; Who the fuck are you to think you're better than God's precious balls ?
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In conclusion: This is ridiculous. Why are you trying so hard to bash the christian faith? Notice how you have to come up with some convoluted atheistic answer. You abandon all morality just to try to misprove a God. You do this because you view God as a set of rules and an angry guy in the sky. You fear that if you were to turn to God, your life would no longer be fun. But that is far from true. I just hope that one day you notice and correct your error before it's too late.
@Th3Apparition The christian faith is an absurd, albeit popular mythology that has been a scourge on humanity since it's inception. Morally speaking, it's despicable. The god of Abraham is an immoral incarnation. It has no place in modern human society. I hope one day you realize how much, when, where and by whom you were so pathetically duped. One does not need absurd myths to have empathy, compassion or morals. Those are all human constructs that have been hijacked by religion.
How about this for convoluted hogshit: god so loved the world he raped a virgin then had himself born into the world to sacrifice himself TO himself to fix his own fuckup from when a magic rib woman was duped by a talking snake and at an apple.
"Notice how you have to come up with some convoluted atheistic answer."
When you get a little older, Mommy might explain to you that the truth is sometimes convoluted. "You abandon all morality just to try to misprove a God."
Abandon all morality? Is that what it's called when you post stupid lies? And "misprove"? What the hell is that.
"You do this because you view God as a set of rules and an angry guy in the sky."
"You fear that if you were to turn to God, your life would no longer be fun."
How do you know what he fears? Did he tell you? Did you read his mind? I hope you have some kind of good explanation and didn't just pull that stupid lie out of your ass.
"I just hope that one day you notice and correct your error before it's too late."
Answer to question #10: It is up to the spouses to keep their love alive. People nowadays don't know what love is. People don't seem to want to fight to save their marriage.
Answer to question #9: It is symbolic of him being inside of you. Don't be ignorant. Now i can tell that you are just trying to come up with half decent questions even though the previous ones were actual good questions. They just have simple answers when one educates themself on God, the bible, and use common sense.
"when one educates themself on God, the bible, and use common sense."
When one educates themself on gods, the bible and uses common sense, one realizes that gods are fairy tales, bibles are silly books and common sense isn't common.
Right. How do you know that? Does the bible SAY that? If that part is "symbolic" maybe other parts are symbolic too. Maybe the whole book is symbolic.
Answer to question #8: If Jesus appeared to everyone, then everyone would be a believer. God wants us to believe by our own will. He does not want to make us believe in him.
Answer to question #6: There are no good people. Even christians sin. Let me ask you something. If Hitler was a 1 and Mother Teresa was a 10, where would you put yourself on that scale? I guarantee you say about 4,5 or 6. Why? because through human eyes we are not that bad. Now take a step back and look at it through the eyes of a perfect God. We all become ones because no one is perfect.
Answer to question #5: God was never for harsh treatment of slaves. In fact, when the Israelites were slaves, he actually wanted them to be freed. So he freed them.
Answer to question #4: Are you kidding? Assuming that we are talking about the omnipotent God of the universe, maker of heaven and earth, the one who created science as we know it, he can do whatever he wants. Yes all of those things did happen. God lives outside of our realm of reality therefore scientific laws are simply wire frames to him. He can easily bend or distort reality, matter, and time as he wills. Why? Because he is all powerful. There is nothing more to it.
Answer to question #3: You used the word "innocent" yet all of the verses used to back this up are actually guilty people. People who take the sabbath for granted, disobedient teens, homosexuals, adulterous women. None of those people are innocent. By God's standards of perfection, no one is perfect. We all deserve death and we all deserve hell.
Answer to question #2: They are hungry because we don't do enough for them. I, personally, haven't done anything to help them. Have you done anything to help them? If we all pitched in, world hunger would be eliminated but ppl are to stubborn so that will never happen.
Do you know what happens when you harass women away from controlling their reproductive lives in a part of the world that can't sustain the current population with food?
Answer to question #1: "No" is an answer to prayers. Besides no amputees pray to spontaneously regenerate another limb. And God does not completely ignore them. Example: The lady with no arms that drives, writes, types and does all of that with her feet. You think that isn't a miracle? There is no doubt that God brought a form of healing into that situation. God knows what he s doing and works in mysterious ways. Let's let him do his job.
@yankinCanada hierarhical authority and viewing people as an in group and out group is very apparent among the mindless hordes who follow people like thunderf00t and theamazingatheist.
Do you think thunderf00t and theamazingatheist are cult leaders of some kind or just a couple of guys who have opinions that resonate with other atheists? Personally I may have watched a video or two from both of those and I don't think I have anything from them favorited.
Another fantasy of yours Andy that might make you feel better to imagine as true.
Try as you might you won't stigmatize atheism as to be on par for irrationality as theism.
ADOLPH HITLER in fact had his SS trooper have belt buckles with "GOD WITH US" regularly attended Church mass -attended a Catholic School - Baptized Catholic - In fact created christian, and catholic organizations while the Fhurer, he also regularly included the word "GOD" in his speeches, often the word "JE$U$" he was in fact a Christian (Catholic class)
@graffffik "It's not "genocide" if you have god on your side - it's "Thinning out the Heathens""
You are right. That is why religious people also have absolutely no issues with killing babies and infants, because babies and infants can't talk so we know they do not believe in God, so they are atheists.
Also Albert Einstein near the end of his life turned atheist. But when Sir. Anthony Flew found God near the end of his life that was due to mental decline. Changes in religious belief in old age are NOT due to mental decline only if one changes from religious to atheist.
Also Albert Einstein near the end of his life turned atheist. But when Sir. Anthony Flew found God near the end of his life that was due to mental decline. Changes in religious belief in old age are NOT due to mental decline only if one changes from religious to atheist.
And Hitler said to his personal secretary that religion is nonsense. But things said in private don't count, except when we are discussing President Obama, who is surely a closet atheist, despite his claims made in public to the contrary!! I am sure Obama is a closet atheist because I can read his mind, and the statements he made in public don't count because these were only meant to manipulate the ignorant American public.
actualy living in america is a bit of a burden when it comes to christianity as there are quite some numbers of ntolerant Christians about there By the way if you want to watch something mor esensible watch?v=f7rrEFJ8Da4 about worldviews. Excellent video and quite thought provoking on how to go about it.
@fourteatwo thanks for the video. I am going to have to watch it later as it is 22 minutes long. I checked out the channel, a good sign is that he author of the video is friends with CartesianTheist, which is one of the best channels on youtube.
@fourteatwo also did you know that Muhhamed, Buddha, and Confucius were actually real historical people, but Jesus is a complete fabrication and never even existed as a historical person and is an invetion which is a combination of several mythical figures such as Horus and Dionysus, with a little bit of Hanibal thrown in. I am judging the probability of existence based on my dislike of the religions they have founded. More dislike equals greater likelyhood of non-existence!!
@Labetolol45 I hope Obama is an atheist. Sadly, in the christard states of america most aren't quite ready for someone to be able to say they are atheist and be elected president. It was hard enough getting past the race card. That only took 145 years after the civil war to accomplish.
Also Stalin and Mao were actually raised Christians, and the fact that they rejected their faith has nothing to do with their homocidal tendencies. Rejecting your faith only affects your behaviour if you are not a mass murderer!
Also, on an unrelated note, atheists often claims that Western Europe is some kind of atheist utopia. Well except for the fact that in no country in Western Europe is a belief in God or a universal spirit lower than 70%. Also many Europeans who don't believe in God believe in the paranormal such as atrology, ghosts.... 53% of Europeans believe astrology is scientific while only 30% of Americans do.
@Labetolol45 Religion has been highly successful through indoctrination, politicization, conquest and sheer force. Fortunately religion is on the decline mostly due to the age of information we live in. Atheism is the fastest growing minority in many part of the world.
@Labetolol45 Who cares? It still doesn't justify the absurd, irrational notion a man/god magical jew was born of a virgin, died for your sins, walked on water, rose from the dead and may grant you vicarious redemption.
@Labetolol45 Let's not forget the mass-murder, rape, and invasions by Christianity in general - the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition - the Spanish Conquistadors, The Ku Klux Klan, The Crusades, the various christian - Muslim Wars, and the hundreds of other events - Including those Christian cults at this very moment committing crimes
While it may be reducing crime a little today - they Committed billions of crimes against humanity in the past and present
Now don't offend those who want to make you believe Religion hosts climinality and supports slavery. Whilst the abolition of the slave trade was acutally a success of Chrisitanity it was clearly because they did not read their bible with as much brain as those high IQ atheists.
@FourDeuce01 The bible also tells people to not kill. and then tells them to "not suffer a witch to live", i.e., kill her/him. On another point, it tells people that god is all forgiving and then says that hell exists
@astrophoenix NO you seem to have it all wrong. First of all, the people who killed all those " non believers" didn't know better and misinterpreted God's word. Secondly, I'm just asking questions because I don't understand the mindset of them. Sorry for not knowing everything.
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I feel a different perspective after talking with others (assuming atheist). I always thought that people like them were careless losers. I now know that these people have very good values to offer. I feel bad as a representative of my faith. I apologize to all those i've tried to disprove. I will respect your beliefs and I hope you will do the same for me. God bless you all!
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Have you ever heard of Satan? Or the fall of man? Or when the serpent was cunning enough to twist things in this world to twist God's Word? Obviously if God loves us, then He won't just MAKE bad things happen to "GOOD" people. The Bible very well harmonizes with itself. Have you ever read the Bible? James 1:13 says that He does not tempt us. Anything not of God is of the world, sin, satan.
Lindsikan 6 hours ago
@Lindsikan:"The Bible very well harmonizes with itself."
Yes, but only when it's part of a bonfire
AtheistToothFairy 5 hours ago
@Lindsikan why even quote the bible? its useless. just because it has quotes from this god character doesnt mean its actually the creator of the universe speaking.
blatantly obvious the guys who wrote the bible made up god/jebus's words. thats why the omnicient, omnipotent, omnipresent being sounds like a fucking retard at times.
the creator of the universe has the same level of education as someone with a serious brain injury
1984LizardKing 4 hours ago
@1984LizardKing:"the creator of the universe has the same level of education as someone with a serious brain injury"
Actually, I think a brain injured person would probably do a better job of creation, than this bible god is claimed to have done
AtheistToothFairy 4 hours ago
@AtheistToothFairy yeagh you are right, the creator the universe doesnt even know his own laws of physics. first page too, doesnt get off to a good start does he ha!!
1984LizardKing 4 hours ago
@1984LizardKing:"creator the universe doesnt even know his own laws of physics. first page too, doesnt get off to a good start does he"
It's just so freaking OBVIOUS that this holy book of theirs, was written by ignorant men and that no advance being of any kind helped them in any way, let alone their 'god'
AtheistToothFairy 4 hours ago
@Lindsikan
"Obviously if God loves us, then He won't just MAKE bad things happen to "GOOD" people."
Right. He just LETS bad things happen to good people, which means he doesn't love us.
FourDeuce01 4 hours ago
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@Lindsikan
"Have you ever heard of Satan?"
Sure. I've heard of plenty of fairy tales.
FourDeuce01 4 hours ago
Got to get up early tomarrow for breakfast with some of my family. Have a good night.
Neodoxian 6 hours ago
@Neodoxian
Later, Cor.
Watergun8770 6 hours ago
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rctriplefresh5 5 hours ago
@Neodoxian
We are all God. Since our consciousness/soul is what makes us, us.
The soul/consciousness come from God.
"On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and YOU are in me, and I am in YOU"
---John 14:20
Watergun8770 6 hours ago
@Watergun8770 Jesus answered them, “"Has it not been written in your Law, ‘'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS'? That Spirit within us, that "Image of God' is a Spirit within man. Atheists are here constantly because they are fighting that Spirit within them. The only peace they will have is peace in God. Without that life is a crap shoot. They roll the dice, but cannot win.
Neodoxian 6 hours ago
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@Neodoxian
Exactly.
That is why Jesus said John 14:20....."On that day you will realize that I AM in my Father, and YOU are in me, and I am in YOU"
Our mind/consciousness/soul is God. We ARE God. The soul is what keeps an organism alive. Without the soul the organism is DEAD.
The brain is simply a senory/recieving organ that recieves information from the OUTSIDE.
Watergun8770 6 hours ago
@Watergun8770 That doesn't make us God.
Lindsikan 6 hours ago
Since we are here on a website that places claims there is no God. then of course the burden is on those that are here to prove that claim. Show me the proof that God does not exist. I have enough reasons God exists to last for hours. But its an Atheist video, so its up to the Atheists to prove. Show me.
Neodoxian 6 hours ago
@Neodoxian
Consciousness/mind creates reality. Matter is a creation of the mind.
God literally spoke/thought everything into existence.
Watergun8770 6 hours ago
@Watergun8770 There really is transcendent potential,and its verified,not theory, objects really do have connections outside of space and time. When an atom emits two photons, going opposite ways, somehow these photons affect one anothers behavior at a distance, without exchanging any signals through space, they instantly affect each other. Holy Cow, Sherlock, Shades of the Spirit connection do exist. This totally confounds Einsteins theory as light is faster than anything .
Neodoxian 6 hours ago
@Neodoxian
EVERYTHING is connected.
Yeah, these photons can literally communicate with each other across the universe.
Einstein called it "spooky science at a distance"
Simple experiement to show that the soul/consciousness exists.
1. If I want to move my arm, how does my arm know I want to move it?
2. If you say the brain tells it to, how does the brain know I want to move it?
Watergun8770 6 hours ago
@Neodoxian
"Show me the proof that God does not exist."
Just as soon as you show some proof that it does exist.
FourDeuce01 4 hours ago
Argument from aesthetics fallacy
yankinCanada 6 hours ago
@40something100 "every" is a very strong word. Imagination draws on our varied experiences in most cases I would say. Having said that I often wonder where the objects of my dreams and hallucinations come from. The subconscious is a mysterious absorber of all kinds of information that perhaps is the wellspring of epiphany and nightmares.
yankinCanada 7 hours ago
@yankinCanada i have argued this point before,and i believe it's true. even those things in dreams, and our imagination,are all built on something we have knowledge of either through direct contact with, such as things observed or through a knowledge of by way of evidence and then modified in our mind. the monsters in our dreams and imagination are modifications of things we know of in our everyday live just exagerated.
40something100 6 hours ago
Very relevant questions but maybe questions are being asked of us also.
derekcaldwell123 7 hours ago
@Watergun8770
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MrJerryTodd1960 7 hours ago
@MrJerryTodd1960
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Watergun8770 7 hours ago
PROOF OF THE SOUL:
1. If an individual wants to move his arm, how does the arm know he wants to move it.
2. The brain sends elecrical signals to the arm for it to contract.
3. How does the brain know the individual wants to move his arm?
(CRICKETS)
MrJerryTodd1960 7 hours ago
@MrJerryTodd1960 Quantum Science cannot explain why our reaction in the brain is accomplished before the stimuli to the brain to affect that same action occurs. Before the eyes register. What is that reactions cause? And why do our thoughts affect things around us? Is the soul our consciousness? Is that the "image" of God, the piece of his "spirit" that allows us to be above all creatures.
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
@MrJerryTodd1960
You seem to believe that the brain is just one huge common mass of cells.
Perhaps if you studied the brain a bit, you might realize how it actually works, ok
AtheistToothFairy 4 hours ago
Wow. This guy is in for a surprise. I liked the video until the imagination part. The problem is he is asking all the wrong questions.
derekcaldwell123 7 hours ago
@derekcaldwell123
So by asking the relevant, important questions, he's asking the wrong ones?
Orthrus2Apples 7 hours ago
Youtube's messing up here two browsers refuse to allow me to post - could be youtube errors tho
graffffik 7 hours ago
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graffffik 7 hours ago
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@Neodoxian
What's up, Cor.
Did you see how I got yankinCanada up against the wall in our debate about the soul.
I believe that the soul is our consciousness/mind.
What do you think?
Watergun8770 7 hours ago
@Watergun8770 I agree, The Image of God is our resemblance to God in the power of reason and will, our soul, consciousness, our function, giving us dominion, to rule the earth and all creatures. The Spirit is the connection, the communication, from the soul to God, Our essence as God gave for our eternal life to rejoin our soul and new bodies after judgement.
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
Testing.
Watergun8770 7 hours ago
@40something100 Every part of that motor was designed using previous knowledge and trial and error.
yankinCanada 7 hours ago
@yankinCanada so what your saying is that there is no such thing as a truly original idea, but every new idea or concept is built on something seen or known of and modified to fit the desired application?
40something100 7 hours ago
Overall, can you prove there's no God? Those questions are nice, but let me throw some at you: where did it all come from? Where did the entire universe come from? How is such a vast universe so fine-tuned that life could exist here on this planet? Where did our morals come from?
Prowlsgirl 7 hours ago
@Prowlsgirl
1. No, we can't. Just like you can't prove that there is no easter bunny.
2. Nobody knows. Doesn't mean jack.
3. It's not fine-tuned at all. It's rough, sloppy, with wide margins of error.
4. Instinct and cultural upbringing.
Orthrus 7 hours ago
@jcs101194 You are probably right. I'm no expert but you don't need to be a neurologist to know that the brain is a sea of electrical activity and from all of that we have self awareness.
yankinCanada 7 hours ago
Can you prove God didn't make the world in 6 days? Can you prove there was no worldwide flood? Can you prove Jonah didn't live in a fish's stomach for three days? Can you prove that God didn't create Adam from a handful of dust?
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mohawk548 7 hours ago
The spirit from God was created and as the Bible says that God knew us before we were placed in the womb is likely the scenario of our being itself, our consciousness so to speak. You may say that Quantum entanglement bear out that same reality. Our spirit can leave the body and float in the universe and be brought back into the body, as some have claimed in near death experiences.
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
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@yankinCanada
I will ask you again:
How do chemical reactions and electrical activity know I want to move my arm?
How do chemical reactions and electrical activity give rise to self awareness?
Dont be a FUCKING PUSSY now.
Watergun8770 7 hours ago
The God particle or Higgs Boson may tell us more about creation. The Scientists claim they are very close to showing its existence.
Alphachron 7 hours ago
@Alphachron Actually The God Particle is in my opinion laid out generally in the first 4 verses of Genesis.
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
@Neodoxian
Where?
MrJerryTodd1960 7 hours ago
@MrJerryTodd1960 Where? Genesis Book 1, verses 1 to 4. Basically the God Particle or Higgs Boson is very likely a big part on the beginning of the universe and all matter.
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
@MrJerryTodd1960 Do you want me to lay out the reasons why I make this assessment.
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
@Neodoxian
Yes, if you could please.
MrJerryTodd1960 7 hours ago
@MrJerryTodd1960 1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. The first( beginning) The higgs field by interacting with itself, the unstable stationary point at the top, and the stationary point at the bottom of the potential. The heaven and the earth potential exists, in effect it IS.
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
@MrJerryTodd1960 2. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. The vacuam kept the sea of radiation in a state without internal structure, and the electromagnetic interactions, and or light were in a mix and or unification with other electromagnetic and or other electroweak gauge bosons. There are 4 parts to this.
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
@Neodoxian
"2. And the earth was without form"
And Harry Potter went to Hogwarts. Quoting a fairy tale doesn't prove the fairy tale is true.
FourDeuce01 7 hours ago
@FourDeuce01 Proof , What kind of proof, and how much is enough?. Scientific, historical,philosophical,moral or personal . Can we Prove henry the 8th existed, historically yes , beyond reasonable doubt, but Scientifically impossible. But then the Big bang, shows a beginning of , and spreading out universe, as the Bible said and evidently was right 5000 years before science. Who told them? Science did not exist. Bible right Science wrong, Proof?
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
@Neodoxian
"What kind of proof, and how much is enough?"
Covered that already for you. If you can't remember you should stick with simple subjects and simple people.
FourDeuce01 7 hours ago
@FourDeuce01 Gods existence cannot be dismissed as it is outside the emperical realm. We believe as in Romans 1:19, men can come to knowledge of God by natural reason. Asking for proof proves conclusively that the burden is on the non believer,otherwise what is the point for them. If God is real you dissapear for eternity. Do you somehow think that If God is not, anything is permissible. That logic never works. It seems that all Atheism can give you, is depression, suicide
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
@Neodoxian
Also, Romans 1:20 tells us that we can know there is a God based on what has been MADE.
The beauty and design of the universe, our planet, nature, and biological life is our proof of God.
Watergun8770 7 hours ago
@Watergun8770 True,What the Fibonacci ratio and its structures do offer is incredible beauty. The whole creation is teeming with examples of beauty that are not essential to function, but have appeal to minds that can comprehend and appreciate it. Attempting to ascribe such beauty to chance falls woefully short of supplying a satisfactory explanation.How can natural selection explain it? A designer is the only possibility.
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
@Watergun8770 According to Quantum physics consciousness collapses wave functions and thereby creates reality. Subatomic particles do not assume definite properties when it interacts with a measuring device UNLESS the reading of that measuring device is registered in the mind of an observer. So the universe could not exist without an observer. And objects remain in a state of actuality,ONLY so long as they are being observed.So God was necessary in the beginning,and we affect all
Neodoxian 6 hours ago
@Watergun8770 The implications can literally be that everything begins with consciousness, and consciousness is the ground base of all being. Then in fact our free will IS real. We are causal power, and in all things, creativity, and even morality we are actually witnessing downward causation by consciousness.
Neodoxian 6 hours ago
@Neodoxian
"It seems that all Atheism can give you, is depression, suicide"
It's funny how christians seem to be the worst ones with the foolish idea that lies help support their belief in a fairy tale.
FourDeuce01 4 hours ago
@Neodoxian
"Gods existence cannot be dismissed as it is outside the emperical realm."
Then I guess it also cannot be proven and there is no point to even try that argument in a rational conversation.
FourDeuce01 4 hours ago
@MrJerryTodd1960 3. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. The Higgs field in suffecient quantum numbers preserved the unbroken symmetry of light. wheras light particle remained light.
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
@MrJerryTodd1960 4. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. The Higgs field interacted with light , by virtual loops of W bosons and top quarks , that is, to see it, so the occurance of vanishing tree level interactions produced the suffecient quantum number sourcing interaction by the exchange of virtual light particles became a good quantum number , that is the electric charge . The entire Universe did light up. CMF
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
@MrJerryTodd1960 After the Big Bang the universe was a high energy state called plasma(as plasma TV). It exists in the core of the sun and the early universe. Not tied to their parent nuclei made it opaque to any form of light,trapped in a cage of plasma. This cooled,expanded and stabilized. The dissipation of wondering elections released that light from its cage, lit the universe and even after expanding its still measurable even today(CMB). "divided the light from darkness"
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
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@Alphachron **The God particle or Higgs Boson may tell us more about creation**
What's 'Higgs field' to do with 'Creation' ? Explain, don't let the bulls out.
mohawk548 7 hours ago
@Watergun8770 I'm done with you and your idiocy wateryshit. There is no shortage of information for you to research about neurobiology etc. You won't.
yankinCanada 8 hours ago
@yankinCanada Judging on the amount of time that people spend here I really doubt anybody knows anything about neurology anyways.
jcs101194 7 hours ago
@yankinCanada
Code for: You have me up against the wall, Watergun. I cant answer those questions because I'm a fucking pussy, and because I simply dont KNOW the answers. I know they point to the soul, but I cant admit that the soul exists.
Watergun8770 7 hours ago
@40something100 New ideas are built on other previous experiences.
yankinCanada 8 hours ago
@yankinCanada i agree, ideas are built on previous experiences, but the person who thought up the combustion engine for example had a very specific thought for a new way to power a machine had to think of an original design there was no memory to build off of no previous experiences it was all new.
40something100 7 hours ago
@40something100 Isn't that a convenient argument to make? Animals don't think. Okay Dr. Doolittle
yankinCanada 8 hours ago
@40something100 You have a subconscious, a memory center and constant sensory inputs. All of which lead to electrical activity that cascades into and triggers conscious thought.
yankinCanada 8 hours ago
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@yankinCanada
"The chemical reactions and the electrical activity of a brain make a sense of self awareness we call the mind."
How do chemical reactions and electrical activity know I want to move my arm?
How do chemical reactions and electrical activity give rise to self awareness?
Watergun8770 8 hours ago
@yankinCanada interesting scenerio, however, thoughts don't alway follow this particular pattern, new ideas don't come from the memory center, or the subconscious, the are inspired by outside stimulation, but the person who thought about building the internal combustion engine had no memory of one, nor was it part of their subconscious, so there is no cascade effect toward conscious thought.
40something100 8 hours ago
Its sort of shocking that you would get so many thumbs down (even though its mostly thumbs up). I'm guessing that some people don't actually watch the video and just thumbs down if they cross even one thing that makes them think.
trom2004 8 hours ago
@trom2004 The3 Dislikes are clearly creationists who hate to think for themselves.
however anyone with a sense of intelligence should like this video
graffffik 8 hours ago
@graffffik Not just creationist most people hate it mainly because this video is pretty weird, and it wreaks with political incorrectness.
jcs101194 8 hours ago
@jcs101194 Reeks of* before anybody in here gives me hell about grammar.
jcs101194 8 hours ago
@jcs101194 true you can apply these questions to things like "loch Ness Monster" "Yeti" "aliens" and more if you actually think these logically and rationally you come to similar conclusions
graffffik 7 hours ago
@graffffik You know, there's quite a lot of planets out their for aliens not to exists, and if aliens just so happen not to exist then that would be rather unfortunate to be the only intelligent life forms.
jcs101194 7 hours ago
@jcs101194 Yes but aliens in general are the same basic things as angels and / or demons - Creatures "out to get you" or "out to save you" they are fundamentally a religious "belief system" when you actually look at it it requires "faith" to believe in them - and it's always a good or evil alien - It is also created via paranoia of mass-media like movies
The same basic thing applies as does religion -
graffffik 7 hours ago
@graffffik Dawkins comments,concedes that life might indeed have a designer, but that designer almost assuredly was a more highly evolved being from another planet,not God. His statement about aliens may have created life was totally airheaded and admitting intelligent design,but basically said nothing. Aliens? then where did the Aliens come from? Circular reasoning / That why Dawkins wont debate, basically he cant do it without screwing up.
Neodoxian 7 hours ago
@graffffik Well then, that depends on what your definition of the word "aliens" I can mathematically prove to you through probability that aliens do exist (well almost). Speaking of aliens how do you feel about the space program's untimely departure. I personally believe that under the given financial circumstances it was the right thing to do. Unfortunately.
jcs101194 7 hours ago
@jcs101194
No, you can't, because the needed data to do such a calculation do not exist.
Orthrus 7 hours ago
@Orthrus That's why I said almost. Although there are a huge amount of planets, there's no rule or law saying that they must have life.
jcs101194 7 hours ago
@jcs101194
Certainly. I don't claim that there is life out there, only that there could be, and we ultimately do not know.
Orthrus2Apples 7 hours ago
@Orthrus2Apples Cool, but hey wasn't your name just Orthus just a couple of minutes ago? Peace, my friend.
jcs101194 7 hours ago
@jcs101194
Yes, it was. Youtube's sometime's a bitch, so I have a second account.
Orthrus2Apples 7 hours ago
i don't understand the point of arguing with him anymore... like it never goes anywhere... and its like repetitive,,,
mnmsweet 10 hours ago
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ATTENTION ATHEISTS:
PROOF OF THE SOUL:
If I want to move my arm, how does my arm know I want to move it?
If you say the brain tells it to, how does my brain know I want to move it?
Watergun8770 11 hours ago
@Watergun8770
If you want to say that it is your soul telling your brain to tell your right hand to flog yourself to lesbian porn, then go right ahead.
An atheist won't condemn you for it but your god may not like your soul.
yankinCanada 11 hours ago
@yankinCanada
Still cant answer the question.....you fucking pussy?
Afraid that it proves the soul?
That is CLEAR evidence of the soul.
I will ask you again:
If I want to move my arm, how does my arm know I want to move it?
If you say the brain tells it to, how does my brain know I want to move it?
Who is telling the brain to send the electrical impulses?
Watergun8770 11 hours ago
@Watergun8770
The chemical reactions and the electrical activity of a brain make a sense of self awareness we call the mind.
The brain isn't fucking waiting for an OUTSIDE agency to tell it what the fuck to do.
A living brain with large frontal lobes seems to allow for self awareness via electrical activity occuring inside of it. The brain is part and parcel of a fucking mind you piece of dog shit.
yankinCanada 10 hours ago
@yankinCanada if your thoughts which are part of your self awareness then which comes first the electrical stimulation or the thought? if the electrical stimulation is first then how is it we can control our thoughts if the latter where do the thoughts originate.
40something100 10 hours ago
@40something100:"if the electrical stimulation is first then how is it we can control our thoughts if the latter where do the thoughts originate"
Did you mean to infer that animals, who have thoughts as well, also have 'SOULS'?
AtheistToothFairy 10 hours ago
@AtheistToothFairy are you suggesting that animals think? i don't think so, some animals can demonstrate an ability to calculate which prey they will persue but it is not thinking it is pure instinct. they learn behavioral patterns from parents. they do not, nor can it be shown that they have indepentant thought. chimps can learn, and use things like sign language, which you might argue requires thought but, they are merely repeating, with no real understanding of what their doing.
40something100 10 hours ago
@40something100:"are you suggesting that animals think? "
No, I'm not "suggesting".....I'm TELLING YOU they do.
There are some great youtube nature videos that clearly demonstrate that some animals do indeed THINK, and also feel emotions to.
Seems like you've been hiding under a rock or something, ey?
AtheistToothFairy 10 hours ago
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@AtheistToothFairy
"Seems like you've been hiding under a rock or something, ey?"
But it's nice and dark and safe under those rocks. ;)
FourDeuce01 9 hours ago
@40something100
Here's just ONE example of non-humans THINKING
/watch?v=HfoQEUm4drk&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL5F83A14310F2C1D0
AtheistToothFairy 10 hours ago
@AtheistToothFairy i have to ask if these animals are truly thinking then why are seemingly unable to change their situation, what i mean by that is if a dolphin can actually think as studies show then why are they unable to avoid tuna nets. thinking involves many aspects including communication, problem solving, abstact ideas, self awareness to name a few, there are many others directly connected to thought. and you still haven't answered the original question.
40something100 9 hours ago
@40something100:" if a dolphin can actually think as studies show then why are they unable to avoid tuna nets"
So because they sometimes get caught in nets, you conclude that they lack the ability to 'think'?
The ability to avoid traps, comes with experience and intelligence, and just because they aren't at our 'level', doesn't at all mean they're not 'thinking'
Hey, but nice try...
AtheistToothFairy 5 hours ago
@AtheistToothFairy
"So because they sometimes get caught in nets, you conclude that they lack the ability to 'think'?"
Good thing he doesn't try to apply that same argument to people, since we all know that people NEVER do anything stupid, do they? ;)
FourDeuce01 4 hours ago
@FourDeuce01:"Good thing he doesn't try to apply that same argument to people, since we all know that people NEVER do anything stupid, do they?"
Right, since people make mistakes all the time, we surely have to conclude that we can't "think" either
AtheistToothFairy 4 hours ago
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@FourDeuce01:"Good thing he doesn't try to apply that same argument to people, since we all know that people NEVER do anything stupid, do they?"
Right, since people make mistakes all the time, we surely have to conclude that we can't "think" either
AtheistToothFairy 4 hours ago
@40something100
"are you suggesting that animals think? i don't think so, "
Humans are animals, and SOME of us think too. I know you find that strange, but we're not all christians.
"they are merely repeating, with no real understanding of what their doing."
How can you know that? Can you read their "non-minds"?
FourDeuce01 9 hours ago
@FourDeuce01 you may be just another animal, but i consider myself to be better than the animal kingdom, you might say that i'm arrogant, so what. if animals could really think then we wouldn't dominate them as we do, our zoos would be empty and we would probobly be close to the bottom of the food chain. i can't read their non minds, because there's nothing to read.
40something100 8 hours ago
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mohawk548 8 hours ago
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@40something100 **i consider myself to be better than the animal kingdom**
When Jesus was described as "The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world." (John 1:29). Also, "The Lion of the tribe of Judah" (Revelation 5:5). And it is interesting to note that He was born in a stable among animals rather than in an inn. Obviously animal Kingdom are like testicles to God ! Question is; Who the fuck are you to think you're better than God's precious balls ?
mohawk548 8 hours ago
@Watergun8770
ATTENTION Ryan:
Please fuck off and die like you promised us you would.
GodisMythology 11 hours ago
@GodisMythology
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Watergun8770 11 hours ago
In conclusion: This is ridiculous. Why are you trying so hard to bash the christian faith? Notice how you have to come up with some convoluted atheistic answer. You abandon all morality just to try to misprove a God. You do this because you view God as a set of rules and an angry guy in the sky. You fear that if you were to turn to God, your life would no longer be fun. But that is far from true. I just hope that one day you notice and correct your error before it's too late.
Th3Apparition 11 hours ago
@Th3Apparition
Because....
1. The Christian faith is stupid, ridiculous, and silly.
2. It constantly attempts to integrate itself in all manners of society.
3. It inhibits social progress.
4. It kills people.
That pretty much sums it up.
Orthrus 11 hours ago
@Th3Apparition The christian faith is an absurd, albeit popular mythology that has been a scourge on humanity since it's inception. Morally speaking, it's despicable. The god of Abraham is an immoral incarnation. It has no place in modern human society. I hope one day you realize how much, when, where and by whom you were so pathetically duped. One does not need absurd myths to have empathy, compassion or morals. Those are all human constructs that have been hijacked by religion.
GodisMythology 11 hours ago
@Th3Apparition "convoluted atheist answer???"
How about this for convoluted hogshit: god so loved the world he raped a virgin then had himself born into the world to sacrifice himself TO himself to fix his own fuckup from when a magic rib woman was duped by a talking snake and at an apple.
bartyfarslar 11 hours ago
@Th3Apparition:"You do this because you view God as a set of rules and an angry guy in the sky"
I see your god as nothing less than a Terrorist of Humanity
AtheistToothFairy 10 hours ago
@Th3Apparition
"Notice how you have to come up with some convoluted atheistic answer."
When you get a little older, Mommy might explain to you that the truth is sometimes convoluted. "You abandon all morality just to try to misprove a God."
Abandon all morality? Is that what it's called when you post stupid lies? And "misprove"? What the hell is that.
"You do this because you view God as a set of rules and an angry guy in the sky."
I veiw your god as a fiary tale.
FourDeuce01 9 hours ago
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@Th3Apparition
"You fear that if you were to turn to God, your life would no longer be fun."
How do you know what he fears? Did he tell you? Did you read his mind? I hope you have some kind of good explanation and didn't just pull that stupid lie out of your ass.
"I just hope that one day you notice and correct your error before it's too late."
I just hope you learn to think critically.
FourDeuce01 9 hours ago
Answer to question #10: It is up to the spouses to keep their love alive. People nowadays don't know what love is. People don't seem to want to fight to save their marriage.
Th3Apparition 11 hours ago
Answer to question #9: It is symbolic of him being inside of you. Don't be ignorant. Now i can tell that you are just trying to come up with half decent questions even though the previous ones were actual good questions. They just have simple answers when one educates themself on God, the bible, and use common sense.
Th3Apparition 12 hours ago
@Th3Apparition
"when one educates themself on God, the bible, and use common sense."
When one educates themself on gods, the bible and uses common sense, one realizes that gods are fairy tales, bibles are silly books and common sense isn't common.
FourDeuce01 8 hours ago
@Th3Apparition
"It is symbolic of him being inside of you."
Right. How do you know that? Does the bible SAY that? If that part is "symbolic" maybe other parts are symbolic too. Maybe the whole book is symbolic.
FourDeuce01 8 hours ago
Answer to question #8: If Jesus appeared to everyone, then everyone would be a believer. God wants us to believe by our own will. He does not want to make us believe in him.
Th3Apparition 12 hours ago
@Th3Apparition
If I see god, then I am believing in that god by my own will anyway.
yankinCanada 12 hours ago
@Th3Apparition
"God wants us to believe by our own will."
When did your imaginary god give you permission to speak for him? Can't he tell us what he wants by himself?
FourDeuce01 8 hours ago
Answer to question #6: There are no good people. Even christians sin. Let me ask you something. If Hitler was a 1 and Mother Teresa was a 10, where would you put yourself on that scale? I guarantee you say about 4,5 or 6. Why? because through human eyes we are not that bad. Now take a step back and look at it through the eyes of a perfect God. We all become ones because no one is perfect.
Th3Apparition 12 hours ago
@Th3Apparition YOU can proclaim to be worthless, a sinner and deserving of hell.
I will to NOT. I proclaim to be a student of the environment and physics I was born into.
viavu1 12 hours ago
Answer to question #5: God was never for harsh treatment of slaves. In fact, when the Israelites were slaves, he actually wanted them to be freed. So he freed them.
Th3Apparition 12 hours ago
Answer to question #4: Are you kidding? Assuming that we are talking about the omnipotent God of the universe, maker of heaven and earth, the one who created science as we know it, he can do whatever he wants. Yes all of those things did happen. God lives outside of our realm of reality therefore scientific laws are simply wire frames to him. He can easily bend or distort reality, matter, and time as he wills. Why? Because he is all powerful. There is nothing more to it.
Th3Apparition 12 hours ago
Answer to question #3: You used the word "innocent" yet all of the verses used to back this up are actually guilty people. People who take the sabbath for granted, disobedient teens, homosexuals, adulterous women. None of those people are innocent. By God's standards of perfection, no one is perfect. We all deserve death and we all deserve hell.
Th3Apparition 12 hours ago
@Th3Apparition
God's standards are too high. Unreasonably high.
That's his problem.
yankinCanada 12 hours ago
@yankinCanada
You never answered, Yankin.
You said that the brain sends electrical impulses to the arm for it to contract(move).
So how does the brain know I want to move my arm?
Watergun8770 12 hours ago
@Watergun8770
I did answer you, you waste of air.
yankinCanada 12 hours ago
@Watergun8770 EVERY SINGLE TIME. really????
mnmsweet 11 hours ago
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@mnmsweet Hello you.
GodisMythology 11 hours ago
Answer to question #2: They are hungry because we don't do enough for them. I, personally, haven't done anything to help them. Have you done anything to help them? If we all pitched in, world hunger would be eliminated but ppl are to stubborn so that will never happen.
Th3Apparition 12 hours ago
@Th3Apparition
Do you know what happens when you feed people on an ongoing basis in a part of the world that can't sustain them on it's own?
yankinCanada 12 hours ago
@Th3Apparition
Do you know what happens when you harass women away from controlling their reproductive lives in a part of the world that can't sustain the current population with food?
yankinCanada 12 hours ago
Answer to question #1: "No" is an answer to prayers. Besides no amputees pray to spontaneously regenerate another limb. And God does not completely ignore them. Example: The lady with no arms that drives, writes, types and does all of that with her feet. You think that isn't a miracle? There is no doubt that God brought a form of healing into that situation. God knows what he s doing and works in mysterious ways. Let's let him do his job.
Th3Apparition 12 hours ago
@Th3Apparition:""No" is an answer to prayers"
Yeah, but it's the same answer I get from my Pet Rock and Milk Jug
AtheistToothFairy 10 hours ago
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@AtheistToothFairy
"it's the same answer I get from my Pet Rock and Milk Jug"
You should try praying to Harry Potter. I ALWAYS get a good answer when I do that. ;)
FourDeuce01 9 hours ago
@yankinCanada hierarhical authority and viewing people as an in group and out group is very apparent among the mindless hordes who follow people like thunderf00t and theamazingatheist.
Labetolol45 14 hours ago
@Labetolol45
Do you think thunderf00t and theamazingatheist are cult leaders of some kind or just a couple of guys who have opinions that resonate with other atheists? Personally I may have watched a video or two from both of those and I don't think I have anything from them favorited.
Another fantasy of yours Andy that might make you feel better to imagine as true.
Try as you might you won't stigmatize atheism as to be on par for irrationality as theism.
yankinCanada 12 hours ago
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louphebe 14 hours ago
ADOLPH HITLER in fact had his SS trooper have belt buckles with "GOD WITH US" regularly attended Church mass -attended a Catholic School - Baptized Catholic - In fact created christian, and catholic organizations while the Fhurer, he also regularly included the word "GOD" in his speeches, often the word "JE$U$" he was in fact a Christian (Catholic class)
he even hob-nobbed with popes
graffffik 15 hours ago
@graffffik yes Adolph Hilter recognized that making his SS troopers pray 3 Hail Marys every day is a great way to prepare them up for genocide!
Labetolol45 15 hours ago
@Labetolol45 It's not "genocide" if you have god on your side - it's "Thinning out the Heathens"
graffffik 15 hours ago
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@graffffik "It's not "genocide" if you have god on your side - it's "Thinning out the Heathens""
You are right. That is why religious people also have absolutely no issues with killing babies and infants, because babies and infants can't talk so we know they do not believe in God, so they are atheists.
Labetolol45 15 hours ago
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Also Albert Einstein near the end of his life turned atheist. But when Sir. Anthony Flew found God near the end of his life that was due to mental decline. Changes in religious belief in old age are NOT due to mental decline only if one changes from religious to atheist.
Labetolol45 15 hours ago
Also Albert Einstein near the end of his life turned atheist. But when Sir. Anthony Flew found God near the end of his life that was due to mental decline. Changes in religious belief in old age are NOT due to mental decline only if one changes from religious to atheist.
Labetolol45 15 hours ago
And Hitler said to his personal secretary that religion is nonsense. But things said in private don't count, except when we are discussing President Obama, who is surely a closet atheist, despite his claims made in public to the contrary!! I am sure Obama is a closet atheist because I can read his mind, and the statements he made in public don't count because these were only meant to manipulate the ignorant American public.
Labetolol45 15 hours ago
@Labetolol45
actualy living in america is a bit of a burden when it comes to christianity as there are quite some numbers of ntolerant Christians about there By the way if you want to watch something mor esensible watch?v=f7rrEFJ8Da4 about worldviews. Excellent video and quite thought provoking on how to go about it.
Have to go back to work
fourteatwo 15 hours ago
@fourteatwo thanks for the video. I am going to have to watch it later as it is 22 minutes long. I checked out the channel, a good sign is that he author of the video is friends with CartesianTheist, which is one of the best channels on youtube.
Labetolol45 15 hours ago
@fourteatwo also did you know that Muhhamed, Buddha, and Confucius were actually real historical people, but Jesus is a complete fabrication and never even existed as a historical person and is an invetion which is a combination of several mythical figures such as Horus and Dionysus, with a little bit of Hanibal thrown in. I am judging the probability of existence based on my dislike of the religions they have founded. More dislike equals greater likelyhood of non-existence!!
Labetolol45 15 hours ago
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@Labetolol45 I hope Obama is an atheist. Sadly, in the christard states of america most aren't quite ready for someone to be able to say they are atheist and be elected president. It was hard enough getting past the race card. That only took 145 years after the civil war to accomplish.
GodisMythology 15 hours ago
Also Stalin and Mao were actually raised Christians, and the fact that they rejected their faith has nothing to do with their homocidal tendencies. Rejecting your faith only affects your behaviour if you are not a mass murderer!
Labetolol45 15 hours ago
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Labetolol45 15 hours ago
Also, on an unrelated note, atheists often claims that Western Europe is some kind of atheist utopia. Well except for the fact that in no country in Western Europe is a belief in God or a universal spirit lower than 70%. Also many Europeans who don't believe in God believe in the paranormal such as atrology, ghosts.... 53% of Europeans believe astrology is scientific while only 30% of Americans do.
Labetolol45 16 hours ago
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@Labetolol45 Religion has been highly successful through indoctrination, politicization, conquest and sheer force. Fortunately religion is on the decline mostly due to the age of information we live in. Atheism is the fastest growing minority in many part of the world.
GodisMythology 15 hours ago
Also religion has been shown to be a protective factor against adult crime.
Religion and Crime Reexamined: The Impact of Religion, Secular Controls, and Social Ecology on Adult Criminality
Journal: Criminology Volume:33 Issue:2
Labetolol45 16 hours ago
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@Labetolol45 Who cares? It still doesn't justify the absurd, irrational notion a man/god magical jew was born of a virgin, died for your sins, walked on water, rose from the dead and may grant you vicarious redemption.
GodisMythology 16 hours ago
@Labetolol45 Let's not forget the mass-murder, rape, and invasions by Christianity in general - the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition - the Spanish Conquistadors, The Ku Klux Klan, The Crusades, the various christian - Muslim Wars, and the hundreds of other events - Including those Christian cults at this very moment committing crimes
While it may be reducing crime a little today - they Committed billions of crimes against humanity in the past and present
graffffik 16 hours ago
@Labetolol45
Now don't offend those who want to make you believe Religion hosts climinality and supports slavery. Whilst the abolition of the slave trade was acutally a success of Chrisitanity it was clearly because they did not read their bible with as much brain as those high IQ atheists.
fourteatwo 16 hours ago
Ah, the meaningless Atheists. Where would our insane world be without its pale advisers. Damn this brave new world.
SkitlerRemix 17 hours ago
@FourDeuce01 The bible also tells people to not kill. and then tells them to "not suffer a witch to live", i.e., kill her/him. On another point, it tells people that god is all forgiving and then says that hell exists