Here is something that you haters all overlook...if you don't want your kids to learn "bad" values from Disney...DON'T LET 'EM WATCH THE FREAKING MOVIES! Are the marketing gimmicks everywhere? Of course, but exercise parental control instead of pissing and moaning how indomitable they are. Second, if they do watch them, seize the opportunity and sit down with your kids and teach them what IS right. So stop whining about how unfair it is and do something about it.
At the end of the day at least the Native American's lived in a REAL democracy, not some banana republic like Disney promotes. Guess they had the last laugh huh?
Ok Asian lady, HAVE YOU SEEN JAPANESE CULTURE?! Modern Japanese culture has made more harm to the image of an Asian woman that all of Disney's films. Oh! And China is no bed of roses either.
@dnightwalker kudos you got the message, this was totally a troll starting a flame war. Now go ahead and keep insulting and belittling other cultures. Can you please make broad insulting remarks about eastern-Europeans next?
@manbot47 Dude, I don't want to start a flame war. I just really don't get all this Asian groups dishing companies like Disney for how their "harmful" portrait of other Asian cultures, when the same Asian countries are doing far worst things. Im sorry I just don't see how anything that Disney does is worst than Kodomo no Jikan (Wikipedia it)
Im sorry but at the start when shes saying that disney portrays chinese culture as being sexist; China has a problem cus they killed too many female babies and now they have too many men because of their one child policy.... Im not sure how you can get more sexist than that.
I see allot of these points and how they can be seen but the indians point is something that has just become apart of society and I never seen Peter pan as a child but when playing cowboys and Indians you would always cup your mouth and yell.. Disney did not enforce that on me so I don't agree with that what so ever.. I feel this doccumentry tried their very hardest to try and make disney seem evil, Yes they have bad points, Don't we all? But I think this is so one sided..
I think this documentary is really, really interesting. Yet I couldn't help myself cracking up about the Asian cat-thing. 'The cats have slanted eyes'. Uhm yes, they're cats, they look like that. xD I don't wanna dumb down the message brought here, they do have good points, but I couldn't help but laugh at that point. x)
I'm confused. Mulan is a sexist film because the movie about not being sexist takes place in a sexist society? And the merchant in Aladdin- Aren't there people in America who would do the same thing? Kids only make fun of Native American stereotypes if they're aware of it, otherwise, it's just misguided ignorance. And the real events of Pocahontas would have NOT been an appropriate movie for kids. Go ahead, tell a first grade class that thousands of Native Americans died. Tell me how that goes.
@3brerfox -- I agree with your last, but it does beg the question : "If the real events of Pocohontas are inappropriate material for kids, why take and warp them into something they're not?"
The world is quite full of material for kids without Disney skewing the lessons of history into their sales product. Their decision to do so indicates that they want to take something that's already well "branded" (this "cute" love story), and twist it as necessary to turn themselves a dime.
@Sully64ify Yes, Disney wants to make money. Who doesn't? But when my friends cried how inaccurate the movie was to history, it forced me to ask, "Okay then, what's the real story?" and do some research. It's the same with all the books. I look at them because Disney piqued my interest. Not to mention most all original fairy tales and stories have NO child-safe material by today's standards, but Disney still does it anyway because we like it. History in films encourages me to learn.
I applaud youre willing to research; I hope you recognize that youre in a tiny minority. Few kids have ANY desire to research the historical accuracy of a Disney translation. In any case, there is plenty of childrens literature that is entirely appropriate for young kids: some are myths and fairy tales, others are later works of fiction. I can name you 20 books without trying. This also doesn't preclude the fact that Disney might *gasp* actually WRITE a story that avoids these issues.
@3brerfox - I don't care that Disney wants to make money. As you say, we all do: Goldman Sachs, drug dealers, quack doctors, everyone. That's why we don't judge organizations on their desire to make money. We judge them on HOW they make it. DisneyCorp would be just as lucrative whether or not it dealt in gender and racial types. However, they choose to use them, and we are perfectly right to criticize them for making their money in a way that is distasteful at best, damaging at worst.
@3brerfox Given the choice between sugar-coating a history of bloodshed and traumatizing little children, why would they even make such a movie at all? Oh, yeah, because they need to keep their cash flow going. To hell with integrity; they need ca$h! :\
"Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done—a deterrent from God: God is almighty and wise." -- Sura 5: 38, The Qu'ran
These "experts" are so manipulative and ignorant in their analysis. The Lion King had James Earl Jones (black) as the hero, and Jeremy Irons (white) as the villain.
who cares why not ban disney an all the money it moves around and jobs it provides so that all those people end in the goverments pockets and end up making society worst so a little bad is not that bad just live with it youll die someday so dont worry be happy
Disney rewrites history? ok maybe but do we want to present children with an indian genocide? We rewrite history as well. Colombus Day Celebrates a guy who got lost, scalped indians, and stole credit from other people. As for the savages song, at the end of the movie they make ammends and admit they were wrong. Its all about context.
I'm curious how Disney is expected to portray a race of people like the native Americans in a friendly light when many of the native Americans were constantly fighting with each other, and would have wiped each other out sooner or later anyway. People complain about how "my culture isn't represented in the media", but they have no suggestions about how they want to be portrayed?
About Mulan: Were they supposed to pretend that it was ok for women to go to war in 15th century China?
I was once a fan of the Mickey Mouse Club. Now, I want nothing less than its complete dissolution. In this age of infinite wisdom and information this illusion has no place left. It hinders imagination. To dissolve this profit oriented market agenda, I shall devote my utmost time and sincerity. Change is necessary for humanity to evolve.
The ONLY thing i don't agree with is that the Savages song was bad. Simplifying any cultural conflict, yes, it is all about misunderstanding and elitism. I don't think Pocahontas should have been made into a disney film, since it was a real and quite tragic story disney has hurt the legacy of. But if this could have just been an original piece, it wouldn't have been offensive.
DO NOT WATCH THIS DOCUMENTARY. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL GET ANNOYED WITH YOURSELF. YOU'LL START TO NOTICE STEREOTYPES OF GENDERS AND SHAMELESS ADVERTISING EVERYWHERE AND WILL THINK THAT IT IS DISNEY THAT HAS INFLUENCED YOUR WHOLE PERSONALITY AND BEHAVIOUR.
DISNEY IS A GOOD COMPANY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THEIR BAD BITS. I'M JUST ADVISING PEOPLE HERE.
man fuck yo couch! I have that happy meal toy of Pocahontas :)
okay so these people obviously missed the whole point of Pocahontas lol did she just focus on the bad? Naw, she took the bad with the good and what happened in the end? they made PEACE. Chill out its a kids movie, disney has never been accurate.
they are so stupid. they cant make a movie about a time period and have it be inaccurate. thats how it was in ancient china. people are over analytical
GEEZ! Pocohontas was not made to show that history was peaceful, its to show that white people and native people can get along and work together.
Its like anything Disney does its going to be ridiculed for it. There's racism in EVERYTHING as long as people continue to be over sensitive about it. To me it looks like disney is trying to include all races in its movies and with each one there is real like problems (sexism an violence) that DO happen in every race in everyday life!
I can't remember how old I was, but when I saw Pocahontas for the first time, I didn't even know she was a real person in history! I eventually found out that it was "inspired" by history and it was interesting to learn to real facts.
when we were kids, we didn't consciously realize these stereotypes, we watched it for fun. but these disney movies, and of course other movies, did and still DO have these stereotypes.
obviously we don't think hispanics are chiwauwas (ok i can't spell it) or black people are gorillas, but we did eventually stereotyped other races
i did to other kids, as other kids did to me. not to intentionally hurt anyone's feelings, but because we honestly believed it was true
~It's ANCIENT China, not just China, and I believe showing a fake Matchmaker ceremony is kinder than portraying FOOT BINDING
~They denied there was conflict in Pocahontas and 2 seconds later complained about "Savages"...wha?
~Admittedly, though, their criticism of Aladdin and Peter Pan is rather correct...parents should wait to show these to their kids until the kids are old enough to understand.
im pretty sure not ONE SINGLE freakin' kidd of the age of 2 and up pay attention to any of this crap.! they dont know of what the animals in these movies represent.
i sure as hell didnt i grew up watching these movies and i loved them.! still do (:
kids watch it because they like cartoons, princesses, && all that good stuff. simple as dat (:
Ok, when I was a kid I'm pretty sure I didn't watch Disney movies for the historical factor. I don't remember raising my hand in history and going, "No, they actually sang a song about how Savage the other race was. You're wrong."
I actually liked comparing the Disney version to what actually happened when I grew older.
And I also didn't know the words to Aladdin's opening theme and I've seen that movie around 100 times. =D
All the issues they are whining about are issues that make the conflict where the theme comes from the characters fighting against the very things these critics are acting like the films are glorifying.
@SnakesAndWorms It's like they didn't even watch them!! I almost cried when the feminism section used Esmeralda as an example of the ideal seductress...because if you know how that movie goes, that's not how it happened at ALL.
@kmnolen721 Hey, I'm watching it too. Same reason I watched The Cove. I like seeing what people out there are thinking. Even if we don't agree with them, we have to know what they think.
@ak34809723 *SOME* of it is accurate. *LOTS* of it is bullcrap. *ALL* of it could be solved by people actually watching the movies and then just NOT SHOWING YOUR KIDS what you deem is bad.
I think that is what the problem was, we didn't understand native american's and they didn't understand us. That didn't make them want to fight us however if it wasn't true that we didn't understand them then why did we slowly but surely take everything they had, put them on reservation and trry to make them like us.
We were like that before votes for woman. Women didn't have a say in certain matters. As for Aladin how could they have advance the plot. Very little is known of pocohauntas anyway except that she married an english man, left her homeland and died of an englishmans disease. I think there is a debate about weather or not Johnsmiths account would have been true because of the dates mentioned.
@actheaterstudent I once heard...and I don't know how valid this is...that the film Pocahontas is excused from historical accuracy since it is based on Smith's LEGEND and not the historical war. Given that Disney has an affinity for fairy tales/myths, it's not improbable...
the idea of pochahuntas is to show children that native indians and white settlers could have gotten on - the other guys in the movie thought that the natives were savages but at the end it shows how war could have in fact been stopped. its a childrens movie and just gives them motivation to do what can be called the right thing as different nations could unite, even though they actually didn't
Mulan quite sexist indeed, they may have a strong willed female character however they followed a lot of chinese stereotypes.
Aladdin's lyrics, really "c'mon son."
"It racist, but hey it's Disney." love it.
In Pocohantas2 didn't she marry some1 else? still racist re-wrtiting history
If kids must watch these films then it is up to the parents to educate them about race to tell them the truth about it, kids are never to young espeicaly Children of colour.
soo if a black guy is racist to white pepole its nothing if a white says a racist joke its world news the disney films are based on old storys of prince charmings maidens in trouble and yes racism is somtime depicted because 100 years ago they where not as racistphobia as they are now
Pocahontas is a bit of a stretch too. If the movie had the white people committing actual genocide on screen in a KID's movie I think even more people would be upset. They're just trying to tell a story in kid language and actually did their best not to make any group seem that evil, which in general is a good view to have.
To be fair, even in the disney movies with just white people, they show a lot of oppression of women. The end goal for every Disney woman is to get married, often to a guy they've barely met. So the Mulan thing isn't that unexpected.
Well ok, lets be real, here-you can't help but exaggerate KIDS movies a little when talking about Pocohantas. I mean, you can't show KIDS clips of indians being murdered and beaten by white people. Of course, its not what really happened, but its just a general idea. They're kids. You can't show them that. If they showed them indians and everyone getting killed, then that would start off a whole new thing.
When I was younger I always wondered why thanksgiving was such a big deal. We did just hack the heck out of native americans, there culture, the places they lived in, where they lived (They dont live in india!), there language, and yet, we take this one day before it all happens and pretended we all got along while also saying we killed a billion of them.
Political Correctness is not crap at all. It's important to know about these perceptions. It's better than being politically incorrect. All minorities would know what I mean.
From the native American view... not all native Americans live in tee-pies, some live in hogans, planes people used tee-pies, some had large lodges. racist I doubt it, this view is in history books in elementary school. Till later in college they see the truth.
Call me ignorant but i grew up watching disney films and not once did i find anything about the characters racist until someone told me that they were, but that probably wasn't until I was 10 anyways so the reality of it is that most kids don't think about racism they think about characters and what they do in a film
And that's how they think it was just natural and normal for those groups of people to act that way- it gives children preconceived notions about different races, until they are later corrected in their adulthood.
Of course they don't think it was "racist" because they usually don't even know what that means until later on. You don't "think" about racism, or being racist until someone has more or less pointed it out to you. You aren't born knowing what it is- it gets taught to you.
Ok, so I am Asian and VERY proud to be one and honestly I am in NO way offended by the Siamese Cats or by any of the "Stereotypes" of the Asian race that are "made". I cannot speak of the for the Arab culture or any of the other cultures that are apart of this for I am not of decent from them, but I do not get offended by any of the stereotypes of MY race. I understand and respect the ideas and opinions of these people and everyone else greatly, and I hope that EVERYONE else does the same.
wow i never really thought about the hyenas from lion king but coming to think of it it sounds like One is the sterotypical african american, one italian, and the other mexican
You know this is a sore subject for many Americans, because they have been raised by the T.V. and movies. So when someone presents something saying there are problems with what you grew up thinking was innocent, of course you will reject it. it really is not important whether you believe these things are problematic, the fact that they are offensive to the varied ethnic groups is the problem. So many defend these films, but tell me, why is it everyone but whites who are insulted?
I don't like this documentary. There are SO many things they could have talked about but half of the movie is spent on things that are not there or they twist it to justify being pissed off at everything.
EVERY FUCKING MOVIE SHOWS HOW IT WAS IN THOSE AREAS/TIME PERIODS!!!!!!!! In China, woman ARE suspected to be subservient to the husbands/fathers. Girls are thrown out into the streets becuz they are females. And in Arabia, if you steal, your hand DOES get cut off!!! It's educational I think. (and might I point out, that there are tribes that DO live in teepees? I just recently saw a pic of a tribe in very COLD climates (the article was about the struggle as it gets colder and theres less food)
It's interesting that the woman talking about Mulan says "this model of feminist figure".. and "Disney has made big improvement". To me, fighting and killing is not a correct depiction of the feminine.. Being strong and independent as a woman does not involve violence, because the feminine creates life - not death. But in total, this documentary makes many important points and people should really think about whether their children should be watching Disney at all.
I dont understand chinese coulture is very sexist back when mulan would have been they would leave there baby girls on the side of the road because of their sex soit isnt like they weret depicting ancient china bad but what it was!!!
Do they realize they contradict themselves. First they complain that Pocahontas does not show the genocide in America. But then when the show the racial prejudice the two races held against each other when they sing "Savages" then they complain that we are inflicting ths bad impression of prejudice injustice in front of our children...REALLY???
Exactly this documentary is like... just looking for ANY reason to be pissed off without looking at the whole picture. There are SO many things they could have talked about.... but nooo.
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ok! ok! white people are the devil! how long does it take to hammer this shit in?!
and by the time the song 'savages' starts every viewer knows that both parties are acting wrongly towards each other
and please, arabs are offended by absolutely EVERYTHING! really, a girl friend of mine (who lives in qatar) has told me hundreds of stories about how overly sensitive they are...
Oh come on now! Disney movies were made to be entertainment and nothing more! You people are reading too much into it. Like the scene with the siamise cats in "Lady and the tramp", it never made me think that Asians are evil. It made me think that cats were evil for a while lol. But not Asains.
To be honest, I think the argument of this film is saying that Disney movies are unintentionally promoting and reinforcing elements such as stereotypes in general in young people (children). And since "it made [you] think that cats were evil for a while..." that is a step in proving that Disney films are having AT LEAST some effect or control on what people should think. Of course, I personally don't believe any of this to be intentional at all on Disney's part.
These people make a somewhat decent point, but they come off as cooks with no sense of humor. Whenever you make something and it is succesful, people will complain and want to make money and garner attention by detracting from it. If you want to change people's minds then teach them, don't complain about simplified childrens stories.
Its about portraying history the way it was. Pocahontas was 10 years old when she met J.Smith. Ect. ect. They have wrong information. Disney is propaganda with a hint of mind control.
So what is Disney supposed to do, show an Indian village with a pueblo, longhouse, wigwam, and a teepee all at the same time, just because it will be more PC?
wait, so now it's BAD to promote peace..? So what should Pocahontas have been? should they have shown white people massacring native americans? O.o oh yeah, that's what i want my kids to watch. thanks!
I don't think kids walk away from these movies with what these people say they do... And besides, if the only education your children receive about other cultures/races is from Disney movies, then THAT'S what's sad!
@ebonifragaria If Pocahontas had been what it was supposed to be, then it wouldn't even be a movie. There's no romance or anything like it in the real story. Disney just had to spice it up a little, apparently.
@ebonifragaria I'm saying the SAME thing. MY god, look at Anastasia from Fox. Do you see the Romanov's getting gunned down like they WERE?! No, eh I love watching this doc because some of these things are just far too over kids heads, plus what should we have done for Tiana's story? Made her Charlotte's maid?! No.. come on people. There are FAR more horrible things to mold childrens minds than disney.. Bratz for example are oversexualizing children.
@DimitrisduchessXD Yes but we cant just avoid one issue because there is another one. There are plently of people dealing with bratz, they just got sued and everything... we need to have somebody dealing with this. I dont want another generation like my little sister in the world.
@miyalana Disney is not an issue. It is NOT the parent so they should be doing their jobs and discuss such themes and why they are bad. Other than that if we were going to go after all these cartoons for their "bad" ideas there would be none left. This is like fighting a fire with icecubes, sure you'll weaken it a bit just it will keep going.
@ebonifragaria Gotta agree with ya on this one, do you really want a kid's movie based on the real version of Pocahontas. In fact The Hunchback and Little Mermaid are vastly altered from their original stories to be more child and family friendly. Also they were complaining how Pocahontas isn't based off the real story now I've never done research into Chinese history so I can't say for sure if China was like but if it was then isn't Disney portraying it as it is and they still complain.
@ebonifragaria It's what you call modelling of the psyche. It doesn't happen immediately. These videos help to mould the mindsets of the Western mentality. So these kids are moulded by subconsciously being made to identify themselves w/ these characters AND then go out into the society that treat them based on the ideas and concepts of what they've been moulded to accept that they are and the cycle is perpetuated.
The message is very clear, we are all a happy family in the this global village all races are having peace. Thats what the woman said at 9:00 . Interesting, cause that is since a long time the message of the "New-Age-Movement". Bring all together and have peace. Which is of course just a mask to blind the people. Disney is complete new age.
"In reality, there was never a romance between them"
Actually, there may have been. We can't know that for sure. Even if she was only a child, it was acceptable back then for the very young to be involved with the very old.
@stevefregoso It doesn't need to be the complete opposite of what it is. People need to acknowledge the discrepancies and discuss them with their children. Kids are much more intelligent and tuned in than you think. Nothing is completely innocent. You can't expect Disney to raise your children for you. You have to explain and interpret the messages it presents and let them know that those movies do NOT represent the real world or real people, that they are in fact just stories.
ya disney probably left out the political issues from the movie because its a frigen kids movie its main purpose is to entertain people not to give people a history lesson!!!!!
When I watch Aladdin for the first time, I asked my mother why the guy was so angry, only because Jasmine gave a little boy an apple.
I've also noticed that the boys in my class have always been bulling the girls. They're saying that girls are nothing worth, and I'm not saying that's Disney's fault, but they can't have got the idea by themself.
notice how the fat person is ALWAYS evil. Ursula in little mermaid too. Its sad, I was raised on disney. I had almost every single movie ever made by Disney except lady & thee tramp and bambi. Sad aint it. I must admit that Im pretty fucked up. I promis not to let my fututre child watch this shit. I love em to damn much.
When they say "barbaric" I thought they meant the awful weather was barbaric. As a kid watching these movies I have to say they made me interested in learning about different cultures, not wishing to discriminate. Parental models have a lot more to do with what kids think than what they see in movies does. In the Pochahontas second movie she does marry the guy she really historically married. You can't blame wars on Disney. Check out the crusades... duh! It's about religion not race.
but z6091, you were not learning about other cultures through disney. You were learning about how to see those oter cultures and how you fit into them. Further, not all wars are due to religion as you claim. Rather, wars are started over resource power... including the crusades which were started over the need for social and envitromental resources and ligitimized in the guise of god's will.
1. These are cartoons - not political re-enactments.
2. China has been criticized for human rights violations and there have been reports of baby girls being abandoned.
3. Ethnic actors have chosen to lend their voices to these characters - isn't that a sign that a) these are just cartoon characters; and b) wouldn't there be even more controversy if only white voice actors were cast?
We all know American's are very good at stereotyping and Disney isn't exactly known for it's authenticity. Isn't that what this thing is about? I know many people who call all East Indians Arabs even though they're actually Asian.
They're ALL Asian, lol. It's a continent, for goodness sake. Indian, "Arab", even Russians can technically be considered Asian if you think of it geographically.
Tell me something I don't know. Where did I say I didn't know this? But not all Arabs are Asian, some are North African. And Russians are usually considered Eurasian, not Asian.
I think the whole thing they are trying to get across is that you have to be able to question those things that you see in movies and find out the truth about history, or different peoples, and don't just take what some corporation says is truth. We got to be more responsible for our children.
Wait wait wait...the lady at the start has it. "Without having conversation." This is the key. Do you really expect media to raise your kids properly if you just set them in front of a TV set and hope they come out the most amazing people in the world?
Okay, for the lady and the tramp comment i have this to say. Lady and the Tramp was made in 1955, the vietnam war began in 1959. Can we say social comentary on society? Seriously people, think about american mentality at the time. That doesn't make it right, but that's how propoganda works.
The point of the whole savages song.. uhm.. and consept was.. well, cause thats what people were like back then. Rasist as all hell. We (americans) seperated Native american families and gave them blankets infested with Small Pox. We killed many durring the Indian Removal Act. That movie isn't about calling eachother savages.. Its about getting over it. In the end... They all were happy. Its pritty easy to take ANY film and make it rasist.
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well someone tell this bitch that mulan, which give young impressionable women a false sense of empowerment wanting to be men, is fabricated or fictitious, aww she would break down crying, you just got to love feminist bitches moaning over nothing, nothing ever pleases them but my hard cock.
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Storytelling gravitates to the sensational, the iconic, etc. It's what piques curiosity and keeps us engaged. We, on the other hand, can make movies that will make everyone politically happy but you will have very little attendance. I'm not a big fan of Disney product in recent decades but I have to say that these PC obsessions are often petty and overstated. You gotta take the pole out of your ass, otherwise you're training people to forget what words like hate and fascism really mean.
You're right, but only in part. Disney produces the movies it expects to turn a profit. But it's not that "iconic" images are simply more engaging.
The reason the "politically happy" version wouldn't sell is because it makes us uncomfortable. Why? Because we grow up watching these stereotypical depictions of race and sex, and this is what we are accustomed to. The early and continuous exposure to Disney (et al) helps us to develop models: who has what role in a given situation.
Aside from Disney, we can look at what happened to television animation in the 70s and 80s, where parental committees and watchdog groups began to assert changes for "safer" viewing. They were bent out of shape because they couldn't discern between what was slapstick and what was violence. So, the medium under went a major watering-down in it's content. It was tepid, nice and pretty unwatchable. Children like exaggeration but that's not an argument that is pro-racists. PC stuff is crap.
Here is something that you haters all overlook...if you don't want your kids to learn "bad" values from Disney...DON'T LET 'EM WATCH THE FREAKING MOVIES! Are the marketing gimmicks everywhere? Of course, but exercise parental control instead of pissing and moaning how indomitable they are. Second, if they do watch them, seize the opportunity and sit down with your kids and teach them what IS right. So stop whining about how unfair it is and do something about it.
3brerfox 1 month ago
At the end of the day at least the Native American's lived in a REAL democracy, not some banana republic like Disney promotes. Guess they had the last laugh huh?
LovelesOne 1 month ago
Ok Asian lady, HAVE YOU SEEN JAPANESE CULTURE?! Modern Japanese culture has made more harm to the image of an Asian woman that all of Disney's films. Oh! And China is no bed of roses either.
dnightwalker 1 month ago
@dnightwalker -- A point which has nothing to do with Disney. Did she say she approved of the Asian pop culture portrayal of women?
Sully64ify 1 month ago
@dnightwalker I agree with you on that. The Japanese portrayal, especially in animation - is much worse.
xHeyItsCami 6 days ago
@dnightwalker kudos you got the message, this was totally a troll starting a flame war. Now go ahead and keep insulting and belittling other cultures. Can you please make broad insulting remarks about eastern-Europeans next?
manbot47 1 day ago
@manbot47 Dude, I don't want to start a flame war. I just really don't get all this Asian groups dishing companies like Disney for how their "harmful" portrait of other Asian cultures, when the same Asian countries are doing far worst things. Im sorry I just don't see how anything that Disney does is worst than Kodomo no Jikan (Wikipedia it)
dnightwalker 1 day ago
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Im sorry but at the start when shes saying that disney portrays chinese culture as being sexist; China has a problem cus they killed too many female babies and now they have too many men because of their one child policy.... Im not sure how you can get more sexist than that.
Walkwithstrings 2 months ago
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Walkwithstrings 2 months ago
I see allot of these points and how they can be seen but the indians point is something that has just become apart of society and I never seen Peter pan as a child but when playing cowboys and Indians you would always cup your mouth and yell.. Disney did not enforce that on me so I don't agree with that what so ever.. I feel this doccumentry tried their very hardest to try and make disney seem evil, Yes they have bad points, Don't we all? But I think this is so one sided..
jimbolimboboy 2 months ago
I think this documentary is really, really interesting. Yet I couldn't help myself cracking up about the Asian cat-thing. 'The cats have slanted eyes'. Uhm yes, they're cats, they look like that. xD I don't wanna dumb down the message brought here, they do have good points, but I couldn't help but laugh at that point. x)
GeekSquadR4A 2 months ago
EVERY single clip that is used in this film is taken out of context and portrayed in a different way. Ridiculous.
qwertyuioplkjhgfd864 2 months ago 2
I'm confused. Mulan is a sexist film because the movie about not being sexist takes place in a sexist society? And the merchant in Aladdin- Aren't there people in America who would do the same thing? Kids only make fun of Native American stereotypes if they're aware of it, otherwise, it's just misguided ignorance. And the real events of Pocahontas would have NOT been an appropriate movie for kids. Go ahead, tell a first grade class that thousands of Native Americans died. Tell me how that goes.
3brerfox 2 months ago 5
@3brerfox -- I agree with your last, but it does beg the question : "If the real events of Pocohontas are inappropriate material for kids, why take and warp them into something they're not?"
The world is quite full of material for kids without Disney skewing the lessons of history into their sales product. Their decision to do so indicates that they want to take something that's already well "branded" (this "cute" love story), and twist it as necessary to turn themselves a dime.
Sully64ify 1 month ago
@Sully64ify Yes, Disney wants to make money. Who doesn't? But when my friends cried how inaccurate the movie was to history, it forced me to ask, "Okay then, what's the real story?" and do some research. It's the same with all the books. I look at them because Disney piqued my interest. Not to mention most all original fairy tales and stories have NO child-safe material by today's standards, but Disney still does it anyway because we like it. History in films encourages me to learn.
3brerfox 1 month ago
I applaud youre willing to research; I hope you recognize that youre in a tiny minority. Few kids have ANY desire to research the historical accuracy of a Disney translation. In any case, there is plenty of childrens literature that is entirely appropriate for young kids: some are myths and fairy tales, others are later works of fiction. I can name you 20 books without trying. This also doesn't preclude the fact that Disney might *gasp* actually WRITE a story that avoids these issues.
Sully64ify 1 month ago
@3brerfox - I don't care that Disney wants to make money. As you say, we all do: Goldman Sachs, drug dealers, quack doctors, everyone. That's why we don't judge organizations on their desire to make money. We judge them on HOW they make it. DisneyCorp would be just as lucrative whether or not it dealt in gender and racial types. However, they choose to use them, and we are perfectly right to criticize them for making their money in a way that is distasteful at best, damaging at worst.
Sully64ify 1 month ago
@3brerfox Given the choice between sugar-coating a history of bloodshed and traumatizing little children, why would they even make such a movie at all? Oh, yeah, because they need to keep their cash flow going. To hell with integrity; they need ca$h! :\
ElectricMayhem87 1 month ago
who here sang along with the savages song at the end?
redlola92 2 months ago
really/ why would they show what really happened between the Indians and Colonists? that would not be child appropriate.......
justmyluck7782 3 months ago
To be fair, I thought Indian people did that and never watched Peter Pan.
NegativeOutlook4 3 months ago
"Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done—a deterrent from God: God is almighty and wise." -- Sura 5: 38, The Qu'ran
These "experts" are so manipulative and ignorant in their analysis. The Lion King had James Earl Jones (black) as the hero, and Jeremy Irons (white) as the villain.
YesWeCantaloupe 3 months ago in playlist Mickey Mouse Monopoly: A little documentary on Disney 7
who cares why not ban disney an all the money it moves around and jobs it provides so that all those people end in the goverments pockets and end up making society worst so a little bad is not that bad just live with it youll die someday so dont worry be happy
3DRYU 3 months ago
Disney rewrites history? ok maybe but do we want to present children with an indian genocide? We rewrite history as well. Colombus Day Celebrates a guy who got lost, scalped indians, and stole credit from other people. As for the savages song, at the end of the movie they make ammends and admit they were wrong. Its all about context.
hpfan518 3 months ago in playlist More videos from fromkhadija 2
That's stupid. They're not making fun of Native Americans. They're touching another culture with interest.
uesky0627 4 months ago
Racism's more controversial and suspenseful. Of course they chose the more racist lyrics.
uesky0627 4 months ago
LOL. That's how China was. It's an accurate portrayal of history.
uesky0627 4 months ago
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helingp 3 months ago
Yeah that's how Asian people are. lol
uesky0627 4 months ago
all the kids look pertafied
CleverDevil666 4 months ago
hey...i had that game!
narutolove12 5 months ago
I'm curious how Disney is expected to portray a race of people like the native Americans in a friendly light when many of the native Americans were constantly fighting with each other, and would have wiped each other out sooner or later anyway. People complain about how "my culture isn't represented in the media", but they have no suggestions about how they want to be portrayed?
About Mulan: Were they supposed to pretend that it was ok for women to go to war in 15th century China?
ThePuppeteergirl 6 months ago in playlist Dark Side of Disney - Themes and Subliminals
I was once a fan of the Mickey Mouse Club. Now, I want nothing less than its complete dissolution. In this age of infinite wisdom and information this illusion has no place left. It hinders imagination. To dissolve this profit oriented market agenda, I shall devote my utmost time and sincerity. Change is necessary for humanity to evolve.
shashankgogoi 7 months ago
The ONLY thing i don't agree with is that the Savages song was bad. Simplifying any cultural conflict, yes, it is all about misunderstanding and elitism. I don't think Pocahontas should have been made into a disney film, since it was a real and quite tragic story disney has hurt the legacy of. But if this could have just been an original piece, it wouldn't have been offensive.
clockworkcorvid 8 months ago
DO NOT WATCH THIS DOCUMENTARY. IF YOU DO, YOU WILL GET ANNOYED WITH YOURSELF. YOU'LL START TO NOTICE STEREOTYPES OF GENDERS AND SHAMELESS ADVERTISING EVERYWHERE AND WILL THINK THAT IT IS DISNEY THAT HAS INFLUENCED YOUR WHOLE PERSONALITY AND BEHAVIOUR.
DISNEY IS A GOOD COMPANY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THEIR BAD BITS. I'M JUST ADVISING PEOPLE HERE.
FloppyAndBoppy 8 months ago
@FloppyAndBoppy good thing you told me in part 4/5
powerofpizzazz 5 months ago
man fuck yo couch! I have that happy meal toy of Pocahontas :)
okay so these people obviously missed the whole point of Pocahontas lol did she just focus on the bad? Naw, she took the bad with the good and what happened in the end? they made PEACE. Chill out its a kids movie, disney has never been accurate.
xffokcufxXx 9 months ago
they are so stupid. they cant make a movie about a time period and have it be inaccurate. thats how it was in ancient china. people are over analytical
nipplerod 9 months ago
you know what, I think people are going to complain no matter what. haters gonna hate
bloggerben 9 months ago
GEEZ! Pocohontas was not made to show that history was peaceful, its to show that white people and native people can get along and work together.
Its like anything Disney does its going to be ridiculed for it. There's racism in EVERYTHING as long as people continue to be over sensitive about it. To me it looks like disney is trying to include all races in its movies and with each one there is real like problems (sexism an violence) that DO happen in every race in everyday life!
alphabettsoup 10 months ago
When I saw the Siamese cats, I thought that was just how cats behaved. :P I never thought about Asians.
luckyjo03 10 months ago
To defend Dinsey a little, on the savage song, I always thought they were saying SANDWITCHES. :D
QuestionRenee 10 months ago 16
Good luck Disney trying to rewrite history jew commy bastards
Amocee 1 year ago
School and education are meant to teach history and politics, not movies. Hollywood loves to dramatize and simplify
bitterpickles 1 year ago
I can't remember how old I was, but when I saw Pocahontas for the first time, I didn't even know she was a real person in history! I eventually found out that it was "inspired" by history and it was interesting to learn to real facts.
TheTovestar 1 year ago
I'm sorry asian lady but very traditional chinese do hold those beliefs... Its accurate.
jonyq 1 year ago
You can't watch that Peter Pan scene as an adult and not find it offensive.
squizz222 1 year ago
"The children also think that all Indians ride a horse and have headresses on with lots of feathers and they all live in teepees."
Ha. That's exactly how the rest of America pictures Oklahoma.
Mperce 1 year ago
@Mperce Better than West Virginia they think we're all like the Beverly Hillbillies. haha
tribefanjames 1 year ago
when we were kids, we didn't consciously realize these stereotypes, we watched it for fun. but these disney movies, and of course other movies, did and still DO have these stereotypes.
obviously we don't think hispanics are chiwauwas (ok i can't spell it) or black people are gorillas, but we did eventually stereotyped other races
i did to other kids, as other kids did to me. not to intentionally hurt anyone's feelings, but because we honestly believed it was true
yeyoungshim 1 year ago
omg i remember watching that pocahontas commercial from when i was a kid..
yeyoungshim 1 year ago
~It's ANCIENT China, not just China, and I believe showing a fake Matchmaker ceremony is kinder than portraying FOOT BINDING
~They denied there was conflict in Pocahontas and 2 seconds later complained about "Savages"...wha?
~Admittedly, though, their criticism of Aladdin and Peter Pan is rather correct...parents should wait to show these to their kids until the kids are old enough to understand.
JaceyDemy 1 year ago
im pretty sure not ONE SINGLE freakin' kidd of the age of 2 and up pay attention to any of this crap.! they dont know of what the animals in these movies represent.
i sure as hell didnt i grew up watching these movies and i loved them.! still do (:
kids watch it because they like cartoons, princesses, && all that good stuff. simple as dat (:
my opinion ofcourse.
jayjay1141 1 year ago
Ok, when I was a kid I'm pretty sure I didn't watch Disney movies for the historical factor. I don't remember raising my hand in history and going, "No, they actually sang a song about how Savage the other race was. You're wrong."
I actually liked comparing the Disney version to what actually happened when I grew older.
And I also didn't know the words to Aladdin's opening theme and I've seen that movie around 100 times. =D
Zurdaness 1 year ago
All the issues they are whining about are issues that make the conflict where the theme comes from the characters fighting against the very things these critics are acting like the films are glorifying.
SnakesAndWorms 1 year ago
@SnakesAndWorms It's like they didn't even watch them!! I almost cried when the feminism section used Esmeralda as an example of the ideal seductress...because if you know how that movie goes, that's not how it happened at ALL.
JaceyDemy 1 year ago
Such a retarded liberal pussy documentary.
ak34809723 1 year ago
@ak34809723 Yet you've watched almost the whole thing?
kmnolen721 1 year ago
@kmnolen721 wanted to hear everything they have to say before judge ing it.
ak34809723 1 year ago
@kmnolen721 Hey, I'm watching it too. Same reason I watched The Cove. I like seeing what people out there are thinking. Even if we don't agree with them, we have to know what they think.
JaceyDemy 1 year ago
@ak34809723 then why are u watching this?
MythBusters619 1 year ago
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@MythBusters619 wanted to hear everything they have to say before judge ing it.
ak34809723 1 year ago
@ak34809723 *SOME* of it is accurate. *LOTS* of it is bullcrap. *ALL* of it could be solved by people actually watching the movies and then just NOT SHOWING YOUR KIDS what you deem is bad.
JaceyDemy 1 year ago
@JaceyDemy Your right very few kids or adults would have noticed most of these things if they had not been pointed out.
ak34809723 1 year ago
I think that is what the problem was, we didn't understand native american's and they didn't understand us. That didn't make them want to fight us however if it wasn't true that we didn't understand them then why did we slowly but surely take everything they had, put them on reservation and trry to make them like us.
actheaterstudent 1 year ago
We were like that before votes for woman. Women didn't have a say in certain matters. As for Aladin how could they have advance the plot. Very little is known of pocohauntas anyway except that she married an english man, left her homeland and died of an englishmans disease. I think there is a debate about weather or not Johnsmiths account would have been true because of the dates mentioned.
actheaterstudent 1 year ago
@actheaterstudent I once heard...and I don't know how valid this is...that the film Pocahontas is excused from historical accuracy since it is based on Smith's LEGEND and not the historical war. Given that Disney has an affinity for fairy tales/myths, it's not improbable...
JaceyDemy 1 year ago
We were like that before votes for woman. Women didn't have a say in certain matters.
actheaterstudent 1 year ago
the idea of pochahuntas is to show children that native indians and white settlers could have gotten on - the other guys in the movie thought that the natives were savages but at the end it shows how war could have in fact been stopped. its a childrens movie and just gives them motivation to do what can be called the right thing as different nations could unite, even though they actually didn't
PeopleShouldSmile 1 year ago
Mulan quite sexist indeed, they may have a strong willed female character however they followed a lot of chinese stereotypes.
Aladdin's lyrics, really "c'mon son."
"It racist, but hey it's Disney." love it.
In Pocohantas2 didn't she marry some1 else? still racist re-wrtiting history
If kids must watch these films then it is up to the parents to educate them about race to tell them the truth about it, kids are never to young espeicaly Children of colour.
MizzDiamonds 1 year ago
the whole indian thing is an altenative to the reality that is smoking in front of mcdonalds and getting drunk and dying of liver failure
spoogerification 1 year ago
soo if a black guy is racist to white pepole its nothing if a white says a racist joke its world news the disney films are based on old storys of prince charmings maidens in trouble and yes racism is somtime depicted because 100 years ago they where not as racistphobia as they are now
spoogerification 1 year ago
Pocahontas is a bit of a stretch too. If the movie had the white people committing actual genocide on screen in a KID's movie I think even more people would be upset. They're just trying to tell a story in kid language and actually did their best not to make any group seem that evil, which in general is a good view to have.
userasdf 1 year ago
To be fair, even in the disney movies with just white people, they show a lot of oppression of women. The end goal for every Disney woman is to get married, often to a guy they've barely met. So the Mulan thing isn't that unexpected.
userasdf 1 year ago
Well ok, lets be real, here-you can't help but exaggerate KIDS movies a little when talking about Pocohantas. I mean, you can't show KIDS clips of indians being murdered and beaten by white people. Of course, its not what really happened, but its just a general idea. They're kids. You can't show them that. If they showed them indians and everyone getting killed, then that would start off a whole new thing.
fivefamly 1 year ago
When I was younger I always wondered why thanksgiving was such a big deal. We did just hack the heck out of native americans, there culture, the places they lived in, where they lived (They dont live in india!), there language, and yet, we take this one day before it all happens and pretended we all got along while also saying we killed a billion of them.
miyalana 1 year ago
Political Correctness is not crap at all. It's important to know about these perceptions. It's better than being politically incorrect. All minorities would know what I mean.
sm819041 1 year ago
From the native American view... not all native Americans live in tee-pies, some live in hogans, planes people used tee-pies, some had large lodges. racist I doubt it, this view is in history books in elementary school. Till later in college they see the truth.
oddsource 1 year ago
The fact that people are saying that "Arabs cut off hands" and that ancient China was extremely sexist just shows how accurate this documentary is.
Remember, Disney does NOT expose us to ohter cultures. It exposes us to a white male American fantasy of other cultures.
bday121 1 year ago 2
Call me ignorant but i grew up watching disney films and not once did i find anything about the characters racist until someone told me that they were, but that probably wasn't until I was 10 anyways so the reality of it is that most kids don't think about racism they think about characters and what they do in a film
Malaran12 2 years ago
@Malaran12
It"s because we didnt have parents that made us OVER ANALYS EVERYTHING! and actually think in a racist way
MissAlainey1991 2 years ago 2
And that's how they think it was just natural and normal for those groups of people to act that way- it gives children preconceived notions about different races, until they are later corrected in their adulthood.
Of course they don't think it was "racist" because they usually don't even know what that means until later on. You don't "think" about racism, or being racist until someone has more or less pointed it out to you. You aren't born knowing what it is- it gets taught to you.
afroza2007 1 year ago
Ok, so I am Asian and VERY proud to be one and honestly I am in NO way offended by the Siamese Cats or by any of the "Stereotypes" of the Asian race that are "made". I cannot speak of the for the Arab culture or any of the other cultures that are apart of this for I am not of decent from them, but I do not get offended by any of the stereotypes of MY race. I understand and respect the ideas and opinions of these people and everyone else greatly, and I hope that EVERYONE else does the same.
coolasian21 2 years ago 2
Honest question: Exactly why are you "very proud" to be Asian? (this is coming from someone who's half-Chinese.
goldenrhinogrey 2 years ago
It is my hope that one day we'll put aside our fear and prejudices and laugh at one another.
ixtasis 2 years ago
BUllshit... most of these stereotypes are based in reality...Stop with the political correctness crap.
jammerjdk 2 years ago
wow i never really thought about the hyenas from lion king but coming to think of it it sounds like One is the sterotypical african american, one italian, and the other mexican
grayme28 2 years ago
@grayme28 Actually, only two of the hyenas talk. The third just laughs and has absolutely no accent.
cheshirexpirate 1 year ago
You know this is a sore subject for many Americans, because they have been raised by the T.V. and movies. So when someone presents something saying there are problems with what you grew up thinking was innocent, of course you will reject it. it really is not important whether you believe these things are problematic, the fact that they are offensive to the varied ethnic groups is the problem. So many defend these films, but tell me, why is it everyone but whites who are insulted?
mrmakyver2 2 years ago
Whites make these movies and typically present the white race in a positive way.
bday121 1 year ago
I don't like this documentary. There are SO many things they could have talked about but half of the movie is spent on things that are not there or they twist it to justify being pissed off at everything.
quitejaded 2 years ago
EVERY FUCKING MOVIE SHOWS HOW IT WAS IN THOSE AREAS/TIME PERIODS!!!!!!!! In China, woman ARE suspected to be subservient to the husbands/fathers. Girls are thrown out into the streets becuz they are females. And in Arabia, if you steal, your hand DOES get cut off!!! It's educational I think. (and might I point out, that there are tribes that DO live in teepees? I just recently saw a pic of a tribe in very COLD climates (the article was about the struggle as it gets colder and theres less food)
mandalf0688 2 years ago
Fighting and killing is not a correct depiction of people in general.
TheSleepingLynx 2 years ago
It's interesting that the woman talking about Mulan says "this model of feminist figure".. and "Disney has made big improvement". To me, fighting and killing is not a correct depiction of the feminine.. Being strong and independent as a woman does not involve violence, because the feminine creates life - not death. But in total, this documentary makes many important points and people should really think about whether their children should be watching Disney at all.
chinaeyes85 2 years ago 2
call me crazy but i never noticed the disney character steryotypes, i just enjoyed the movies.
zitalee2 2 years ago
I dont understand chinese coulture is very sexist back when mulan would have been they would leave there baby girls on the side of the road because of their sex soit isnt like they weret depicting ancient china bad but what it was!!!
avatargirl209 2 years ago
Its not even that its Mulan who takes the toy from the boys and returns it to its owner.
Knoss 2 years ago
SAVAGES SAVAGES, barely even human
5 yr olds are above the idiocy of this ... I hope
samrayiii 2 years ago
Do they realize they contradict themselves. First they complain that Pocahontas does not show the genocide in America. But then when the show the racial prejudice the two races held against each other when they sing "Savages" then they complain that we are inflicting ths bad impression of prejudice injustice in front of our children...REALLY???
BookMello 2 years ago
Exactly this documentary is like... just looking for ANY reason to be pissed off without looking at the whole picture. There are SO many things they could have talked about.... but nooo.
quitejaded 2 years ago
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ok! ok! white people are the devil! how long does it take to hammer this shit in?!
and by the time the song 'savages' starts every viewer knows that both parties are acting wrongly towards each other
and please, arabs are offended by absolutely EVERYTHING! really, a girl friend of mine (who lives in qatar) has told me hundreds of stories about how overly sensitive they are...
keniakittykat 2 years ago
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keniakittykat 2 years ago
Oh come on now! Disney movies were made to be entertainment and nothing more! You people are reading too much into it. Like the scene with the siamise cats in "Lady and the tramp", it never made me think that Asians are evil. It made me think that cats were evil for a while lol. But not Asains.
squrilleyboy 2 years ago
To be honest, I think the argument of this film is saying that Disney movies are unintentionally promoting and reinforcing elements such as stereotypes in general in young people (children). And since "it made [you] think that cats were evil for a while..." that is a step in proving that Disney films are having AT LEAST some effect or control on what people should think. Of course, I personally don't believe any of this to be intentional at all on Disney's part.
HanRen78941 2 years ago 3
That cats are evil thing I said was a joke lol.
squrilleyboy 2 years ago
These people make a somewhat decent point, but they come off as cooks with no sense of humor. Whenever you make something and it is succesful, people will complain and want to make money and garner attention by detracting from it. If you want to change people's minds then teach them, don't complain about simplified childrens stories.
EBlue75 2 years ago
Oh man there is no hinting at genocide in pocahontas? They trivialize something in a disney movie? My god!
boxed119 2 years ago
Its about portraying history the way it was. Pocahontas was 10 years old when she met J.Smith. Ect. ect. They have wrong information. Disney is propaganda with a hint of mind control.
Vrishchii 2 years ago
these old bags are pulling all this crap out of their saggy butts.
WolfyErin1 2 years ago
So what is Disney supposed to do, show an Indian village with a pueblo, longhouse, wigwam, and a teepee all at the same time, just because it will be more PC?
forzared101 2 years ago 3
wait, so now it's BAD to promote peace..? So what should Pocahontas have been? should they have shown white people massacring native americans? O.o oh yeah, that's what i want my kids to watch. thanks!
I don't think kids walk away from these movies with what these people say they do... And besides, if the only education your children receive about other cultures/races is from Disney movies, then THAT'S what's sad!
ebonifragaria 2 years ago 5
@ebonifragaria If Pocahontas had been what it was supposed to be, then it wouldn't even be a movie. There's no romance or anything like it in the real story. Disney just had to spice it up a little, apparently.
WastedMeerkat1 1 year ago
@ebonifragaria I'm saying the SAME thing. MY god, look at Anastasia from Fox. Do you see the Romanov's getting gunned down like they WERE?! No, eh I love watching this doc because some of these things are just far too over kids heads, plus what should we have done for Tiana's story? Made her Charlotte's maid?! No.. come on people. There are FAR more horrible things to mold childrens minds than disney.. Bratz for example are oversexualizing children.
DimitrisduchessXD 1 year ago
@DimitrisduchessXD Yes but we cant just avoid one issue because there is another one. There are plently of people dealing with bratz, they just got sued and everything... we need to have somebody dealing with this. I dont want another generation like my little sister in the world.
miyalana 1 year ago
@miyalana Disney is not an issue. It is NOT the parent so they should be doing their jobs and discuss such themes and why they are bad. Other than that if we were going to go after all these cartoons for their "bad" ideas there would be none left. This is like fighting a fire with icecubes, sure you'll weaken it a bit just it will keep going.
DimitrisduchessXD 1 year ago
@ebonifragaria Gotta agree with ya on this one, do you really want a kid's movie based on the real version of Pocahontas. In fact The Hunchback and Little Mermaid are vastly altered from their original stories to be more child and family friendly. Also they were complaining how Pocahontas isn't based off the real story now I've never done research into Chinese history so I can't say for sure if China was like but if it was then isn't Disney portraying it as it is and they still complain.
otakutaicho 1 year ago
@ebonifragaria It's what you call modelling of the psyche. It doesn't happen immediately. These videos help to mould the mindsets of the Western mentality. So these kids are moulded by subconsciously being made to identify themselves w/ these characters AND then go out into the society that treat them based on the ideas and concepts of what they've been moulded to accept that they are and the cycle is perpetuated.
Encouraging self hate.
mykinfoknew 11 months ago 23
@ebonifragaria Feminism is synonymous with misandry!
ofrah1 10 months ago
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@ebonifragaria UGH! Feminism is synonymous with misandry!
ofrah1 10 months ago
The message is very clear, we are all a happy family in the this global village all races are having peace. Thats what the woman said at 9:00 . Interesting, cause that is since a long time the message of the "New-Age-Movement". Bring all together and have peace. Which is of course just a mask to blind the people. Disney is complete new age.
66mra 2 years ago
"In reality, there was never a romance between them"
Actually, there may have been. We can't know that for sure. Even if she was only a child, it was acceptable back then for the very young to be involved with the very old.
whatevah88 2 years ago
SO every disney villan needs to be white and noone will be mean and all wemen will be stronger then men ... good job ppl now storys suck
stevefregoso 2 years ago 4
@stevefregoso It doesn't need to be the complete opposite of what it is. People need to acknowledge the discrepancies and discuss them with their children. Kids are much more intelligent and tuned in than you think. Nothing is completely innocent. You can't expect Disney to raise your children for you. You have to explain and interpret the messages it presents and let them know that those movies do NOT represent the real world or real people, that they are in fact just stories.
sofiabea22 2 years ago 2
@stevefregoso Why would the stories then necessarily suck?
kieraap 1 year ago
@kieraap (sarcastic) because heroes need to be white to be a great movie, just look at Earthsea and The Last Airbender
MizzDiamonds 1 year ago
@MizzDiamonds lol.. too true. hahahahah.
kieraap 1 year ago
@stevefregoso
Wow. I can't believe people actually gave your incoherent comment 5 thumbs up. lol
ThisOneRocks 10 months ago
ya disney probably left out the political issues from the movie because its a frigen kids movie its main purpose is to entertain people not to give people a history lesson!!!!!
jaretteheeser944 2 years ago
When I watch Aladdin for the first time, I asked my mother why the guy was so angry, only because Jasmine gave a little boy an apple.
I've also noticed that the boys in my class have always been bulling the girls. They're saying that girls are nothing worth, and I'm not saying that's Disney's fault, but they can't have got the idea by themself.
Coopercoll9 2 years ago
tha cuttin goff the hands after 3 offences isn't only in saudi arabia, in northern nigeria, the muslims do that too and other barbaric practices :(
myh3artb3ats 2 years ago 4
exactly. It is often done in Sharia law. That is accurate!
GoddessofHyrule 2 years ago
notice how the fat person is ALWAYS evil. Ursula in little mermaid too. Its sad, I was raised on disney. I had almost every single movie ever made by Disney except lady & thee tramp and bambi. Sad aint it. I must admit that Im pretty fucked up. I promis not to let my fututre child watch this shit. I love em to damn much.
Jelloxox 2 years ago
ditto :(
myh3artb3ats 2 years ago
uuhh gail the whites were/are savagesand the natives understood them perfectly.
XNakisisaX 2 years ago
When they say "barbaric" I thought they meant the awful weather was barbaric. As a kid watching these movies I have to say they made me interested in learning about different cultures, not wishing to discriminate. Parental models have a lot more to do with what kids think than what they see in movies does. In the Pochahontas second movie she does marry the guy she really historically married. You can't blame wars on Disney. Check out the crusades... duh! It's about religion not race.
z6091 2 years ago
but z6091, you were not learning about other cultures through disney. You were learning about how to see those oter cultures and how you fit into them. Further, not all wars are due to religion as you claim. Rather, wars are started over resource power... including the crusades which were started over the need for social and envitromental resources and ligitimized in the guise of god's will.
ashleyheyland 2 years ago 2
There are more degradation of rights and ethic in the Bible, than in most of those cartoons.
jerryaltman 2 years ago
So what?
LailaRaqs 2 years ago
its true
Ironsix6six 2 years ago
1. These are cartoons - not political re-enactments.
2. China has been criticized for human rights violations and there have been reports of baby girls being abandoned.
3. Ethnic actors have chosen to lend their voices to these characters - isn't that a sign that a) these are just cartoon characters; and b) wouldn't there be even more controversy if only white voice actors were cast?
PapaBlueMarlin 2 years ago
It's Racist, but Hey, It's Disney! lol
khofasheshab 2 years ago 24
hopely ur kids watch this disney crap and there morals are given to them from this racist and they grow up to join the kkk.
SwerVQE 2 years ago
about the aladdin thing, isn't it set in india? where in aladdin does it say they are islamic? most indians are HINDU, not muslim.
Blasto2x 2 years ago
Theme song.. Arabian nights... arabian days..
Clearly not India. Also the names are more synonymous with those from predominately arab countries.
coolhalo123 2 years ago 5
We all know American's are very good at stereotyping and Disney isn't exactly known for it's authenticity. Isn't that what this thing is about? I know many people who call all East Indians Arabs even though they're actually Asian.
Blasto2x 2 years ago 2
They're ALL Asian, lol. It's a continent, for goodness sake. Indian, "Arab", even Russians can technically be considered Asian if you think of it geographically.
Arosukir6 2 years ago
Tell me something I don't know. Where did I say I didn't know this? But not all Arabs are Asian, some are North African. And Russians are usually considered Eurasian, not Asian.
Blasto2x 2 years ago
I think the whole thing they are trying to get across is that you have to be able to question those things that you see in movies and find out the truth about history, or different peoples, and don't just take what some corporation says is truth. We got to be more responsible for our children.
staceyannec 2 years ago 12
Wait wait wait...the lady at the start has it. "Without having conversation." This is the key. Do you really expect media to raise your kids properly if you just set them in front of a TV set and hope they come out the most amazing people in the world?
Szedg 2 years ago 5
Okay, for the lady and the tramp comment i have this to say. Lady and the Tramp was made in 1955, the vietnam war began in 1959. Can we say social comentary on society? Seriously people, think about american mentality at the time. That doesn't make it right, but that's how propoganda works.
waterangel251983 2 years ago
Aladdin came out around Gulf War part 1. 91-92
Perfect timing. Maybe they should have opened the fault for a re-issue in 2003.
BigAl023459 2 years ago 2
The point of the whole savages song.. uhm.. and consept was.. well, cause thats what people were like back then. Rasist as all hell. We (americans) seperated Native american families and gave them blankets infested with Small Pox. We killed many durring the Indian Removal Act. That movie isn't about calling eachother savages.. Its about getting over it. In the end... They all were happy. Its pritty easy to take ANY film and make it rasist.
gorywill 3 years ago 5
Um, China traditionally has been, and to some extent still is, sexist society, whether that lady likes it or not.
tganubis 3 years ago 3
exactly. We're very lucky in America and the anglo saxon world.
GoddessofHyrule 2 years ago
so is america
ashleyheyland 2 years ago
Wait, match-making interviews never existed in China? Didn't this woman ever read anything by Amy Tan?
charybdisxv 3 years ago
um.... im pretty sure she would know, seeing as she IS chinese, and by the way, that kind of matchmaking was in Japan...
piggiesgottheconch 3 years ago
You mean Amy Tan is Chinese? Yes, she is. And she wrote a story precisely about this kind of match-making.
charybdisxv 3 years ago
You have to remember, most of the Disney films were made post-60's, so it is not surprising that there are stereotypes in them.
Duvmasta 3 years ago
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well someone tell this bitch that mulan, which give young impressionable women a false sense of empowerment wanting to be men, is fabricated or fictitious, aww she would break down crying, you just got to love feminist bitches moaning over nothing, nothing ever pleases them but my hard cock.
strongbadassman 3 years ago
I think perhaps your cock beheaded,dressed, fried, and served on a platter would please them. Because they like chicken.
charybdisxv 3 years ago 4
nah they are just missing a hard cock in their life cause they so fugly no men would fich them even if they willing to pay.
strongbadassman 3 years ago
is that why you're homosexual? you knew a lot of women you didn't like?
charybdisxv 3 years ago
well i wouldnt be homosexual if i fuck hoes like ur momma :D.
strongbadassman 3 years ago
acting macho doesn't erase the truth. you like to eat fried chicken.
charybdisxv 3 years ago
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fried chicken and young wet pussy babe, a woman that could clean my dishes and massage my feet everyday, i have 9 harems and 2 prostitutes to serve me everyday, and i serve them my big fat sausage as a reward :D.
strongbadassman 3 years ago
i know you are but what am i
charybdisxv 3 years ago
Can everyone who makes a future comment please state your race or ethnicity? Just so we know. KTHANKS
saibondy 3 years ago
what does it matter? lol
goldust8 3 years ago
but isn't race invisible? o_o
charybdisxv 3 years ago
Storytelling gravitates to the sensational, the iconic, etc. It's what piques curiosity and keeps us engaged. We, on the other hand, can make movies that will make everyone politically happy but you will have very little attendance. I'm not a big fan of Disney product in recent decades but I have to say that these PC obsessions are often petty and overstated. You gotta take the pole out of your ass, otherwise you're training people to forget what words like hate and fascism really mean.
FritzOmnibus 3 years ago
You're right, but only in part. Disney produces the movies it expects to turn a profit. But it's not that "iconic" images are simply more engaging.
The reason the "politically happy" version wouldn't sell is because it makes us uncomfortable. Why? Because we grow up watching these stereotypical depictions of race and sex, and this is what we are accustomed to. The early and continuous exposure to Disney (et al) helps us to develop models: who has what role in a given situation.
honeymu5tard 3 years ago
Aside from Disney, we can look at what happened to television animation in the 70s and 80s, where parental committees and watchdog groups began to assert changes for "safer" viewing. They were bent out of shape because they couldn't discern between what was slapstick and what was violence. So, the medium under went a major watering-down in it's content. It was tepid, nice and pretty unwatchable. Children like exaggeration but that's not an argument that is pro-racists. PC stuff is crap.
FritzOmnibus 3 years ago