2012 Update: Cain Shines in New Hampshire Debate & Mitt Romney Adds Christie to His Corner

[Sailor231]

All you anti-Paul voters must realize that the media blackout of Paul is real. Ever care to wonder why? If he was SOOOO crazy they would air his views so all could laugh. Instead, he's gaining more voters who are staying unlike the rest of the field. Use your heads. Stick to the Constitution for the Constitution shall set you free! RP'12(like a Boss)

[Buffalo122333]

Mitt Romneyi is a RINO.

He believes in gun control.

He loves socialized health care.

He supported the stimulus' and bailouts.

[bearone7777]

HERMAN CAIN 2012. WHY?? We as a nation need a business man to be the President this time around.

[ThePelicans44]

I think it's hilarious garbage that being the class clown and saying nothing but a word 3 times over and over again, is called "shines". When being even slightly pressed about his domino's pizza deal, he hesitated and said he referred to one economist who was a buddy of his and was struggling to come up with any one else, luckily the moderator backed off and cut him a break since he clearly wasn't going to be able to name any others.

[Duk31sTh3M4n]

Well I lost my respect for Chris now.

[edwardpf123]

The choice is indeed pathetic!

[ShatterNWO]

Modern day conservatism, where men who worked at a bank that is apart of the communist manifesto are considered "front runners." The progressives took over this party in ways you neo-cons will never know.

[scepticsteve]

I would give 999 more credit than the panel. As long as Congress is infested with big spenders, there will be no deterrence against high taxes. But with a simple tax rate the population sees what it has to pay, everyone has to pay, and they can evaluate what they get for it. In the end the voters are the only safeguard, Congress cannot be trusted anyways.

An Amendment to keep Congress from taking on more debt would make it much better, though. Unlike the Maastricht treaty it cannot be ignored.

[Mezey5]

Cain could fix the criticism with offering the idea of a balanced budget amendment(limiting spending based on a %of GDP).

[HumbleWillis]

Romney and Perry are both status quo politicians, though they're both head and shoulders above Obama. Cain would also be better than Obama, though he's wrong on a few issues.

Now the downfall of this video, despite the fact that many believe Ron Paul won the debate, NOT ONE WORD was spoken about Paul. You are obviously part of the conspiracy to ignore his existence. I highly disapprove.

[UncleIrv]

@HumbleWillis

I'm sick of you Ron Paul wackos and your paranoid comments. Go get abducted by a UFO.

[HumbleWillis]

@UncleIrv What did I say that was paranoid?  Specifically, what don't you agree with about Ron Paul's platform?

[maskedphrogg]

@UncleIrv

Why would we want to join your mind?

Apparently a UFO has already hijacked your brain and you are no longer capable of informed comment or reasonable discussion. Much like Herman Cain as he walks back his initial public comments with regards to auditing the Federal Reserve. By what means does one attack the "right problem" when one is unwilling to answer "the right questions?"

[UncleIrv]

@maskedphrogg

Doo-doo-doo-doo-Doo-doo-doo-do­o...

(Twilight Zone music plays)

[CRAPCANNONS]

If you choose style over substance, Cain "won".

/watch?v=brzhfkFFm_Q

[trottheblackdog]

@HumbleWillis Is your tin foil hat on too tight? Ron Paul will not be nominated. Period.

[4PFrog]

@HumbleWillis No one talks about him because his stagnant followers haven't brought him anymore support. I'm a Libertarian, and Ron Paul drives me nuts because of his poor foreign policy, the fact that he's a career politician, and the fact that all the truthers out there who support him are as crazy as he is.

[j1mmyZeta]

@HumbleWillis Shhhh, you're not supposed to mention Ron Paul.

Funny how individual rights was discussed in the video without even mentioning him.

[duke1duke1]

@j1mmyZeta Ron Paul isn't in favor of individual rights, he is anti-state. He is just like his friend Lew Rockwell. Being anti-state is not pro-individual rights. Otherwise he would protect the individual rights of American citizens who have been murdered by the Islamist states that sponsor terror. Ron Paul's ilk (the austro-libertarians) believe in a dissolution of the state including the police, course, and military.

[SpellboundSolution]

@duke1duke1 Ron Paul is an insane cult leader.

[mrlordllama]

@duke1duke1 Were you born this stupid or did you go through some special surgery for it?

[Shanockdotcom]

State level governing is NOT evil. At least, not in the way it is on the Federal level. Each state will have its own way of doing things. Some will embrace heavy central planning, some none, some moderate. I agree that central planning has more drawbacks than benefits, but the only way to demonstrate that is to let people try it out. The systems that work best will be emulated. It's like a free market of governments. The people will have their choice, while still protected by the constitution.

[maskedphrogg]

@Shanockdotcom

Some reason you haven't been paying attention to history? It is rife with examples of centrally planning business and business infrastructure. Central planning doesn't work well for any but the elite insiders who do the planning, irregardless of how local that planning committee is. Central planning is at it's core antithetical to individual liberty no matter what window dressing you put upon it.

[Shanockdotcom]

@maskedphrogg Some reason you haven't been reading posts before replying to them? I never made any argument in favor of central planning. Think before you post.

[shamgar001]

Every major candidate got a mention in this video except Ron Paul.

Come on PJTV, you're supposed to be the alternative media! Stop acting like the mainstream dolts.

[HumbleWillis]

@shamgar001 My sentiment exactly. PJTV is often right in their criticism of the Democratic party, but they are really just a slightly more conservative arm of the status quo Republican party. They don't really believe in the message of personal liberty and small government as espoused by Ron Paul.

[leeuniverse]

@HumbleWillis You are mistaken..... We/they most certainly believe in personal liberty and small government, we just don't believe in certain "liberal" Ron Paul etc. positions. Also, Romney is not a "status quo" politician. He only spent what was it 2/4 years as a Gov, and the rest of his life he was in business? How is that in any way a status quo politician? Don't you understand that you just spout propaganda, completely misrepresenting people?

[Jarreason]

@leeuniverse I wouldn't call leaving issues like drugs and gay marriage to the states, "liberal". There is nothing liberal about Ron Paul.

[leeuniverse]

@Jarreason Drugs, marriage, war, elimination of all government, etc. etc. is either too liberal, or just nuts. Yes, he/they are liberal in some degree. People like Ron Paul, Alex Jones, etc. are either liberal or nuts and morally not conservative at all on some issues. The extreme right becomes anarchy. Anarchy in certain things on that extreme become liberal ideological based. Anyway, not going to argue, just informing my view and study of all positions people take compared to others.

[scepticsteve]

@leeuniverse You're right. But I would even question that they are righ-wing in the sense of conservatism. They always have it both ways. One day the "real" conservative, "independents" the next. With Reagan on one day, Reagan was a neocon big-spending warmonger the other...

And willful blindness and playing nice with enemies is not right-wing and endangers the individual. I would say tinfoil-heads.

Drugs for example are just not governments business. That doesn't mean we shouldn't condemn them.

[maskedphrogg]

@leeuniverse

What?

"Elimination of all government"

That's an anarchist viewpoint, not something Ron Paul or most any other Libertarian would uphold.

Keep creating opinions and attributing them to others that do not espouse them and we who's opinion you attempt to denigrate will call you out for it.

[leeuniverse]

@maskedphrogg Obviously I was exaggerating, but he and certainly some Libertarian views do in fact go "anarchist", which was my point. Of course, not all Libertarians are created equal, so it depends on who you talk to. Most Libertarians for example are actually Conservatives, they just like the Libertarian title so they can "separate" themselves to feel better, and because they are for Liberty in a strong way. Anyway, Libertarianism is too liberal/anarchist in certain issues.

[HumbleWillis]

@leeuniverse Specifically which positions do you consider liberal, and why do you disagree with them? I'm interested to know.

[leeuniverse]

@HumbleWillis Search on Youtube and watch Alfonso Rachel's "Ronulan Invasion" and "Libertarian or Liberal-tarian?" and you will get some idea of some of the things that are problematic with Ron Paul and/or Libertarianism.

[HumbleWillis]

@leeuniverse Regarding being like Jeremiah Wright, Paul was taking about what the terrorists themselves have said. They attacked us because we're occupying their land. They said it, not Paul. Paul just quoted them. We are not, can not be, and are not authorized to be the world police. We can and should bring our troops home. That will save hundreds of billions each year, and allow us to focus those dollars on home defense. Ron never said we got what we deserved. The terrorists said that.

[HumbleWillis]

@leeuniverse Drugs are bad and wrong, but making them illegal has powerful unintended consequences that are MUCH WORSE than the problems caused by drugs. First making them illegal has created a economic opportunity in Mexico that has spawned the warring cartels that murder tens of thousands each year. If you look at the rates of use and addiction from pre-1920 to now, they've barely fluctuated during that entire period. Prohibition simply doesn't work to begin with.

[HumbleWillis]

Respond to this video...  Lastly, Paul doesn't support abortion. He's very strongly a right to life guy.

[wormer104]

@HumbleWillis Or in other words they are Conservatives and not Libertarians which tend to go with the liberal side of anything not economic.

And even that's dicey.