Re-thinking Progress: The Circular Economy

[Genezistan]

This procedure was in use until WWII in HUngar in small farms that neither the Communits notr the Capitalsi found lucrative enough for them so they expelled the rural population to towan just as others have been doing it elseweher ever since

[evilgenius747]

This purports something like land tax. you buy the land, and if you fail to pay land tax, the government/corporation takes it back away from you. So you really never owned anything in the first place.

[evilgenius747]

It's a nice Idea, but it's still built on the commercial/capitalist model w/c if you think about it is cheating since you do not own the stuff you bought but simply have rights to them. Hence the corporations retain ownership. However, a more advanced idea is... since we can make this happen, why not give it to the people for free. :-)

[leonidasreal]

what a lie!...production works since the 18 century (200 years of waste!...we should be burried in industrial waste if recicling didn't existed already,).Using plain arguments (very naif one's, to say the least) to say that ownership is "bad", and apointing existing manufacturers as agents of recicling (as if that didn't existed since the early industrys ) is plain propaganda to endure wealth and promote growth to existing main manufacturers

[charlespontoon]

Sounds like a plan

[adminoperator]

i want to be positive about this video as it obviously shows a economical and cyclic production which mimics the nature.

However, we have to consider this. In order to cycle materials (especially electronics), basic materials have to be created from a set number of SIMPLE/BASE materials. For example, DNA which builds ALL LIFE but only contains adenine, cytosine, guanine, and thymine. This allows interchangeable and cyclic production.

This will be the hard part, creating a set/simple system.

[TreesCanMakeitRain]

What about natural waste cycles - Carbon Cycling - the absorption of CO2 from atmosphere by improving soils through agroforestry. We have put in a bid for a million euro for our project - Operation OASIS. check us out

[Paulovsky]

In Portugal there is already a similar program for small household appliances. In every big shopping center (and there are a lot of them) people can deposit the old  appliances and then a company recicle them.

google it: AMB3E

[zedmanZ9]

Nicely explained and building on the C2C thinking. The real change will happen when we get people to ask "what's in it for US"in stead of "what's in it for ME?"...could take a while to change this egocentric attitude...

[Exhalent]

haven't watched the video yet, but as with most things, if it ever becomes cheap enough, it will happen naturally.

[TreesCanMakeitRain]

@Exhalent It will never become 'cheap' - its just what we do now will become more expensive.

[blindspotting]

Great concept, needs more thought on how to make it happen when similar work ever since 1960s has been sidelined. Have commented more here guardian.co.uk/discussion/comm­ent-permalink/12258978

[ThemelisCuiper]

The base idea is good - the practical implementation needs to be re-thinked upon, just implementing recycling will make more added trouble by the recycling process , In Amsterdam we stopped separating our garbage because a part of the process was not efficient. separation is still handled but further in the process.

Just keep up coming with inventing new ideas modeled to what has been organically tested for millions of ages by nature. nature itself is a reacting and adapting living entity

[italomazoni]

Please, someone put subtitles on this film. Subtitles is enough. Thank you.

[pro126]

2 people cant think haha

[pvnksarma]

super like! I am looking forward for this change soon enough before it is too late...

[TheTruthDK]

this is all very good and all. but way to late, in a few years time we will all be fighting over the last bit of resurces this world have left! and when those are gone we will all whiter away and die.

[KarrahatGenius]

this is a really great video of brilliant ideas

[bktkm]

anyone can make a difference. try mend something broken instead of buying new one. separate your trash to plastics, paper, metal and food waste. Even waste itself can be reduced in your homes if you buy just enough or a little bit less than you think you need.

[GRAVYRAQUEPz]

This will only happen if majority of people will accept this idea........

[Paladinoocara]

Greet video! This video is like watching a little resume of a "resource based economy"

It seems (by comments here) that people are starting to be aware of the "deadly" cyclical consumption caused by the "necessity" for "infinite economic growth" wich causes lots of ambiental problems.

Take a look at the "ZEITGEIST: MOVING FORWARD" here on youtube, it shows in a very deep way the major causes of our current problems and a real possible solution (called a "resouce based economy").

[Jamrozio87]

Theres only one serious problem - Recycling electronics and plastic materials is UNeconomic - it costs way more than produceing new one, and as we know companys goal is to have bigger income, so far there is only symbolic point of Ecological circle production.

Now more important is to find a perfect replacement for petrol.

It will hapen one day...

[made2bemadeagain]

@Jamrozio87 But with resources like copper and indium (materials often used in electrical products) running out, doesn't it make sense for a manufacturer to keep hold of those valuable resources? And if they don't recover them, perhaps they won't be able to make any new products at all...

[Jamrozio87]

@made2bemadeagain Mayby one day, mining resuorces will be more expensive than recovering them, mayby recycling process will become one of ours every day duty, but not NOW... :( ... Economy is based on money, and everything turns aroud it. Mining resuorces is and will be cheper for a very long time from now. Bigger problem we have with petrol and oil - if we solve it, if every single engine will run on clean energy source (hydrogen etc.), then we'll shurely begin to think about toxic wastes

[made2bemadeagain]

@Jamrozio87 That 'one day' might not be as far off as you might think for some crucial resources. And we have the opportunity to re-think things now, to build a positive future rather than the 'use less, do less harm' approach.

It's important to develop engines that run on clean, reliable and renewable energy sources. But they must work as part of a system. It's this systems thinking that can help us develop a model that can really work long-term, rather that have a quick fix that works now.

[Static172]

@Jamrozio87

Solving the petrolium problem will cause many other, for how you will produce tires, plastic, toothpaste.

We need to change the approach, not searching solutions for problems we make but searching ways with the least side affects on nature, that is coexistance.

[nny350]

@Jamrozio87 Wait that is the one serious problem? A kid got in trouble for modding his playstation 3 which he owned. Now they are saying we do not own this item at all we are licensing it. Rethinking owner ship, more like give us more control.

[AlastairRonald1]

@Jamrozio87 To clear things up:

1. Making prdocts from scratch both uses exothermic and endothermic reactions, which change the covalent molecular structure of the material.

2. Recycling means, in most cases, heating the materials up, changing the phase of the material from solid to liquid, and then letting the material cool down.

When recycling materials, it will use energy to heat them up and it may be uneconomical if making the products from scratch is EXOTHERMIC.

[AlastairRonald1]

@Jamrozio87 To clear things up:

1. Making prdocts from scratch both uses exothermic and endothermic reactions, which change the covalent molecular structure of the material.

2. Recycling means, in most cases, heating the materials up, changing the phase of the material from solid to liquid, and then letting the material cool down.

When recycling materials, it will use energy to heat them up and it may be uneconomical if making the products from scratch is EXOTHERMIC. Comprenday?

[znubzz188]

@Jamrozio87 whether its economic or not depends on your conception of time. in the perception of time of the current economic dogma mining is still cheaper. if we manage to shift towards projections of longer time scale in terms of whats economic we'd come up something much more intelligent like this vid

[NichJabber]

Very good video. Short and clear.

[keithwinestein]

A revolutionary idea. I think this could work. But it needs all of us to galvanise and realiser that this rethinking needs to be local, global and most importantly individually. Otherwise as Fraiser says in Dad's Army "We're doomed. Doomed". The earth has finite resources. But we need to act fast. Businessmen like Sugar, Gates etc need to be involved. They must be able to see that there is money in it for them if they get it right. Great film. Clear and attractive storytelling, Good Luck!

[albatrizzle]

lets make it happen

[Dyaaas321]

I'm personally loving the idea, and it shows a better way forward for the future.. I guess some people would find the idea maybe not so good, but I love it and the idea deserves to be thought through by companies big or small.. becuase whatever happens this is our planet and future we are fighting for :)

[imthetcg]

BULLSHIT!!

---Just my opinion!

[e24ify]

this is pure genius!! i loved the part about 'borrowing' from the manufactures. When we give it back, perhaps they could reuse the same material to create even more good stuff. And if the returned material isn't usable, they can simply recycle. Nothing goes in the landfill, which is awesome.

[TorresinhoLFC]

IaNina <3

[lasonrisadeamelie]

thanks to Ian for show it us!