Self Proclaimed American Traditionalist picks a fight with Thom Hartmann

[Aegius]

No debt crisis? 14.5 trillion nat'l debt. $62 trillion in unfunded liabilities from Medicare and SS. $3 trillion in unfunded liabilities at the state and local level. BTW, our national debt is now 100% of our GDP in August.

There are so many facts that are omitted here, that I could go on all day. Dems ran Congress under Reagan. Repubs ran Congress under Clinton. The worst spending has been under Pelosi-Bush and now Pelosi-Obama. Hartmann is not honest as he deliberately omits facts.

[tybrady64]

I just discovered Thom Hartmann! This guy is good! Time to subscribe! This video is further proof that democrats argue with facts and republicans ignore them.

[Tekavolver712]

Thom, why do you even pick up the phone? Why? This woman is an ignorant imbecile. Cmon.

[Tasermaxx]

We have a serious fascism problem in this country. And the terrifying fact is that all of these fascists think that they're patriots.

[jimlaregina]

Notice how the caller ignores Thom Hartmann when he corrects her - she just moves on to the next talking point on her list.

[RedTory59]

Our Tories here in Canada are positively "liberal" when compared to the raving lunatics that pass themselves off as "conservatives" in the USA.

[seapriestess1]

Kathleen you suck, who cares if some ancient ancestor of your was a"signer' (you never mentioned a name) you still are ignorant trash. It is people like you that are letting these greedy corporate pigs steal our Country.

[Redfox161616]

Does this women sound as dumb as she sounds

[FloppyFormatFrenzy]

I find it funny when anyone prefaces themselves in the discussion with things that do not give them any authority in the subject. Just because you are a direct descendant to one of the nations founders or a "Traditional American" doesn't mean anything!

[Lightshipclear]

Thom is such a clear thinker, backed by an incredible logic and grasp of the facts. Tea-Publicans who think they can go up against him had better think twice. I am a decendant of several of those who came over on the Mayflower including Miles Standish and William Bradford, as well as being of the same blood line as John Adams. That doesn't make me any more of a patriot than the newest naturalized citizen. This lady thinks that because some signer had kids that makes them infalible. BS!

[Tounushi]

"We are the only republic in the world!"

Jesus Christ, spare me these fools...

[Macabre215]

@Tounushi I guess she didn't know that the Soviet Union was a Republic not only in name, and that China is one as well.

[Tounushi]

@Macabre215

Finland, Germany, the five republics of France, Italy, Austria, Taiwan, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

There are more republics in the world than the sheep could ever eat.

I guess that woman and you are the sort of people who go "America is not a democracy, we are a republic!"

A republic is a representative democracy! People elect representatives to decide matters of state for them. The people should have the power to elect, oversee and replace their rulers and representatives!

[Macabre215]

@Tounushi I agree with everything you've said I was only being facetious and found her comment to be absurd, because it is.

[lstntn]

It actually is a sad commentary on our society that there are SO many of these Idiot-ologues who have so completely drank the "Conservatard" kool-aid that when she accidentally stumbles across Thom Hartmann, rather than listening, she feels the need to "call him up and straighten him out". Things like facts and evidence are wasted on folks like this caller. "Sound-bites" are easier for them to remember and needn't be true...just sound good. Was that Michelle Bachmann on the phone?

[viruscauser]

Common sense meet brick wall.

Brick wall wins.

You cannot reason with someone who does not want to know any different from what they already "know".

[flake452]

@ArtetlaMusique87 Yes Seperation of church and state is something I am jealous of over here if you want a decent education and you are poor you have to go to church to get into a religious state school. Although the church of england is pretty liberal compared to american churches, Gay men can be bishops and religion isnt really a part of our politics cameron happens to be the only christian leader of the 3 parties. But an Atheist could easily be a conservative.

[flake452]

@ArtetlaMusique87 I am talking about the modern day tories, who still have a national health care system, the democrats do not. We still have infinite unemployment benefits, Extremly high housing benefits. Whilst I hate what the tories are doing I am greatful they are not as right wing as the democrats in america. Can You imagine cameron signing out with "god bless the united kingdom"?

[hollywoodt00]

@ArtetlaMusique87 Thatcher was Ronald Reagan's evil twin and George W Bush's evil fairy godmother, perhaps...

[SpitfireOFatj]

Wanna bet she believes the "spending" that offends her so much is "Welfare" for Blacks? The Republicans are giving out dog whistles claiming that's the "out of control spending" without saying it outright.

Just look at all the Right Wingers on here proudly proclaiming they WORK as if Obama or anyone who supports him doesn't believe in working.

[ANTIDALLARD]

Stupid old woman

[ggadguy]

"Leadership means that 'the buck stops here'. Instead, Wahington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and failure of leadership. Americans deserve better." - Barack Obama (2006)

We are in even worse shape now! Here's a better RT show to watch.

watch?v=VgDhKpcHAAI

[MageIanBorthwick]

I don't think I could be this patient with that ignorant old lady. it's like listening to the brainwashed....I'd be reaching for an ACME brand mallet.

[baxtar1963]

The caller is a slice of good ole racist, bible belt, ignorant america. Thank God for Thom Hartman.

[seiferganon]

I love how she touted that she was a direct descendant of a signer, as if somehow knowing how to run a country is genetic... oh wait, that's called a monarchy, and it's something we try to get away from.

[seiferganon]

Thom, you have the patience of a saint.

[titan90000]

Traditional American = Uneducated Moron

[LouieArrighi]

Haiti is a republic, so is the Dominican Republic and most countries in Africa

[HUMANSAREBENEATHME]

Im glad this OLD inbreeder lived long enough to see a black man as president....her racist misery is my joy.

[Umberto2]

@ArtetlaMusique87 it means she's a socially conservative white person over 60

[BeortheMad]

I should have found this channel months ago, I love this guy.

[flake452]

@ArtetlaMusique87 The tories are more left than the democrats, the Republicans are closer to The BNP than the tories.

[YY4Me133]

Republican politicians want the U.S. to be like what they set up in the Mariana islands, where people work long hours in sweatshops, 7 days a week, for less than minimum wage, and workers have no rights.

"You are a shining light for what is happening in the Republican Party and you represent everything that is good about what we're trying to do in America, in leading the world in the free market system." - Tom Delay, R. Texas

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[ggadguy]

Thom is right that the Republicans are absolute hypocrites for running up these massive debts. However, Thom said that there is no problem selling our debt, but there is. The Federal Reserve became the #1 buyer of U.S. Treasuries by buying 70%. Anybody can look this up. That's the mother eating her young.

[megagagnon1]

Ironic that the last thing Thom said was "republicans have run up $10 trillion of this $12 trillion debt we have, get your facts right." We have a $14.5 trillion debt - get your facts right Thom.

[seiferganon]

@megagagnon1 Context! He was talking the 12 trillion that has been run up since Reagan.

[optionsupdate]

Hartmannovich can barely conceal his extremist marxist trotskyite views,

[MaryJesusJoseph]

She's the descendent of a founding father and several first cousins.

[noldorian86]

wow that woman was so fucking ignorant :D

[flake452]

700 dollars a month? Shit that is really high, I knew it was expensive but that is dreadful, it costs far less for our NHS in the UK and its better service for the majority.

[monadbornslippy]

what a stupid woman!

[flake452]

She does realize that China is a republic, as is russia it has been since soviet times, Nazi germany was also a republic.

[ggadguy]

@flake452 They are Republics in name only. This happens all of the time.

[MarmaladeINFP]

@ggadguy Sorry. You are plain wrong. A republic is simply a government that isn't a monarchy. The founding fathers established a republic in order to separate from the British monarchy. Many countries of various ideologies have chosen to eliminate monarchies or to free themselves from foreign monarchies.

[flake452]

@ggadguy A republic just basically means no monarch, something non of those countries had.

[ggadguy]

@flake452 I'd agree there's no Monarchy in these countries you mentioned. The ideology of a Republic ranges greatly. For example, the Chinese Republic is very different from the U.S. Republic, etc. Even Iraq was declared a Republic in '79. So yes, thanks for bringing that to our attention.

[flake452]

Why does she feel the need to mention her ancestory? That surely isnt fitting in a republic.

[iglwy]

thom hartmann is the best show in the US and he is a real hard mann when dealing with republican idiots and extremists.

[mrgoodvibrations]

@iglwy he is also polite when many of his conservitive conterparts would of hungup on any opposing calls, where Thom give em a chance to for them to put their foot in they're mouths.

[mrgoodvibrations]

Respond to this video...  Thom is correct with his FACTS!!!