Yeah yeah. But what I want to see is an ACCURATE version. One in which the angle of the Sun's rotational axis, and the plane of the planetary orbits, are inclined at the correct angle to the system's motion (relative to the galactic plane) and Nth-Sth is correct.
I flatly refuse to believe the angle is exactly 90 degrees, as the video pretends.
Also please get the relative scales of overall motion vs the orbital periods right. I bet it's much more stretched out than as illustrated.
So, I read that our Solar system moves around the center of our galaxy at roughly 250 k/sec which is faster that the Earth's rotation around the Sun at only 30 km/sec. During the solar system's movement, what is the front or "nose" of the Earth? Is it the North or South pole?
The dust trails left by periodical comets that the Earth passes through every year would, in this model, be left BEHIND in space never to be passed through again !!
:)...nice, close but ...incomplete, though: even the sun is spiraling around(towards) Alcione...and Alcione around the center of our Milky Way galaxy and ...and our galaxy around another greater galaxy and that one around the center of this local universe and this local universe is also spiraling together wit some other three universes towards a WAAAAAY BIGER AND GREATER CENTRAL UNIVERSE...Now, what about that view...if you can grasp it?!...
Pretty, now take that spiral and curl it through the motion of the galaxy, and then push it out through the expansion of the universe. Now we've got a spiraling spiral, and that's just what we CAN observe today. Who knows the relative motion of ourselves outside the scope of this expanding space we call the universe.
BlackSunSerenade is correct. the reason why we do not show helicoidal movement is because we see all motion in the Universe as relative to an arbitrary point.
In this context, when studying the motion of plantes, we choose the Sun as the arbitrary point of reference and then all planets are correctly depicted in elliptic orbits.
Not uh. We all know that the earth is the center of the universe! burn the witchcrafter! Just kidding. anyways, if the moon is going around the earth. The earth going around the sun. The sun going around a bunch of black holes. Does that mean there is a chance that the galaxies might be going around something even bigger?!?! That would be crazy. Yet, cool at the same time.
Awesome everything is spinning! We got protons and neutrons which have spin, electrons which are spinning around those, the earth spinning around its axis, the moon spinning around the Earth, together with all those spinning gas giants and planets+moons that also spin we spin around the sun which is also spinning, the sun spinning the center of the galaxy. together with all those other solar systems which are also spinning..... STOP IT!! My head is spinning!!!
Damn classical schools. What did they get right? Tired of the main stream and main education system brain washing the masses arent you? Its good to see a few free minded folks emerge ever so often like Haramein, Rodin, Searl, Russel, and the like.
@Videorealms I'm already in contact with Nassim's folks at the Resonance Project and the director of Frequency of Genius, Robert Sachs.
We need to tell more people about the work of Walter Russell, John Searl, Ed Leedskalnin, Viktor Schauberger, Dan Winter and Dr. Pallathadka Keshava Bhat.
Check out my friend's site called w w w,feandft,com
Free Energy and Free Thinking
:o)
We need to do Away with the so called educators who are actually indoctrinators and skip right to the people!
@Videorealms I was under the assumption that our solar system orbits the galaxy in the same plane that the planets orbit our sun. I.e., that our solar system's plane is not tilted 90 degrees to the galaxy as you have it in this video (for example, as Uranus is tilted to our solar plane). Again, I made that as an assumption, are you sure it's how you have it in this video or am I misinterpreting your animation?
Regardless, I like how you want people to look at things from another perspective!
@mooseflier obviously this video is not showing the solar system's orientation to the galaxy - it is a very rough animation that was made because at the time there were no such animations that showed the fact that the planets dont simply rotate around the sun in a circle as we commonly explain to children. You can pick this apart in youtube comments but if you have the time to nit pick here then why dont you make a better video.
if the sun was on the path of a sin wave and such like you said, the sun might be going in a sin wave instead of a straight line but the planets relative to the sun follow too , so relative to empty space yes they would still make the motions here, think of this as a stabalised model
My point is, that all models omit SOME aspects, to better illustrate other aspects. A model omitting galactic velocity is just as valid as any other. Nassim is wrong to criticise one models omission while committing greater omissions in his own!
The galactic component of the solar systems motion is omitted not to HIDE anything, but because it is IRRELEVANT to most things, such as seasons, lunar and solar eclipses, comets, magnetospheres, solar wind, asteroids, space probe trajectories, etc.
@Karma01010 the difference is in the more closed mindedness we experienced over the last several decades and beyond. I believe Nassim would look at every angle and put out the closest thing we have and that is his model. You may see the relevancy come 12-21-12
you are correct the shadows are not accurate, the scale is not accurate, its not wide angle view enough to show the spiral of the sun in the galaxy or the curve of the sun's orbit.
What it does show is a basic essence of how the planets orbit the equator of the sun as the sun moves through space..
This animation, although not 100% accurate is a way better aproximation that models most people have been exposed to, therefore i think its a valuable piece of imagery.
Where can this information you are providing be found?
I've searched books on astronomy and haven't been able to find charts, diagrams or models to explain the orbit of our sun in our galaxy. How would this orbit even possibly be observed or measured?
@bryanmilne Get a good astronomy program for your PC, such as "Starry Night", it explains all this, and it lets you fly around the galaxy and see any orbits from any perspective.
This has been known since the 1700's when William Herschell observed the motion of stars. He even determined the approximate direction of the Solar System's movement through Galactic space.
These combined motions of the Earth, Sun and Solar System are very well known to all astronomers. Only the uneducated think this is something that has been "hidden".
very good visualization and was waiting for something like this. Would be cool to have one that is looped in a Java applet so that we can view it from different angles whenever we want. Absolutely amazing this thank you so much,
No particle, let alone planets and stars, has ever or will ever occupy the same point in space! trippy
DemonDik 2 hours ago
actually we are at the center and all the stars rotate aroung our solar system
mrbrucewayne631 11 hours ago
It always amazes me when I see something in nature that shows how everything is linked together....It looks like a strand of DNA
THAWK3 13 hours ago
It just doesn't matter
breckandy 17 hours ago
Yeah yeah. But what I want to see is an ACCURATE version. One in which the angle of the Sun's rotational axis, and the plane of the planetary orbits, are inclined at the correct angle to the system's motion (relative to the galactic plane) and Nth-Sth is correct.
I flatly refuse to believe the angle is exactly 90 degrees, as the video pretends.
Also please get the relative scales of overall motion vs the orbital periods right. I bet it's much more stretched out than as illustrated.
TerraHer7z 17 hours ago
Wheels in the sky. What a wonderous universe we live in, there is more knowledge coming for all of us.
keeprockinmebaby 17 hours ago
Wheels within wheels, bendreth.
Pygar2 17 hours ago
Dont we reconize planets around stars by watching the wabble of the star. Why dont we show the case for our solar system?
goatcheese1984 3 weeks ago
So, I read that our Solar system moves around the center of our galaxy at roughly 250 k/sec which is faster that the Earth's rotation around the Sun at only 30 km/sec. During the solar system's movement, what is the front or "nose" of the Earth? Is it the North or South pole?
SillyNelsonDuncan 1 month ago
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sorry but this is WRONG..
proof ?
regular predictable annual meteor showers...!
The dust trails left by periodical comets that the Earth passes through every year would, in this model, be left BEHIND in space never to be passed through again !!
moonboots69 1 month ago
:)...nice, close but ...incomplete, though: even the sun is spiraling around(towards) Alcione...and Alcione around the center of our Milky Way galaxy and ...and our galaxy around another greater galaxy and that one around the center of this local universe and this local universe is also spiraling together wit some other three universes towards a WAAAAAY BIGER AND GREATER CENTRAL UNIVERSE...Now, what about that view...if you can grasp it?!...
zalmos12 1 month ago
good
nikkuitchamp 1 month ago
one major flaw with this...... the stars would move ;-)
noyesc1 3 months ago
mind blown
bdpra68 4 months ago
Looks like the DNA helix.....
tortybits 6 months ago
Pretty, now take that spiral and curl it through the motion of the galaxy, and then push it out through the expansion of the universe. Now we've got a spiraling spiral, and that's just what we CAN observe today. Who knows the relative motion of ourselves outside the scope of this expanding space we call the universe.
conhmurr 7 months ago
BlackSunSerenade is correct. the reason why we do not show helicoidal movement is because we see all motion in the Universe as relative to an arbitrary point.
In this context, when studying the motion of plantes, we choose the Sun as the arbitrary point of reference and then all planets are correctly depicted in elliptic orbits.
JulioMarco 8 months ago
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ApileDGn 9 months ago
The planets' movements relative to the sun are still circles...
BlackSunSerenade 9 months ago
Not uh. We all know that the earth is the center of the universe! burn the witchcrafter! Just kidding. anyways, if the moon is going around the earth. The earth going around the sun. The sun going around a bunch of black holes. Does that mean there is a chance that the galaxies might be going around something even bigger?!?! That would be crazy. Yet, cool at the same time.
runeflame16 10 months ago 3
@runeflame16 look up MACS 1206
oceanceaser44 3 months ago
@oceanceaser44 huh?
runeflame16 3 months ago
@runeflame16 Just a picture of a cluster of galaxies
oceanceaser44 3 months ago
@runeflame16
Awesome everything is spinning! We got protons and neutrons which have spin, electrons which are spinning around those, the earth spinning around its axis, the moon spinning around the Earth, together with all those spinning gas giants and planets+moons that also spin we spin around the sun which is also spinning, the sun spinning the center of the galaxy. together with all those other solar systems which are also spinning..... STOP IT!! My head is spinning!!!
Tubewaytorpedo 2 months ago
@runeflame16 i believe that if given enough time, galaxies will orbit each other. maybe :)
xTheEmilyx 2 months ago
Wow, that was such a beautiful animation. It just looks right.
Jreyes2265 11 months ago
Wow very nice animation. :-) THX
ExploreMan2010 11 months ago
the basics behind these alternative theories seem rather logical to me...never had thought about it like that. TnX
kidanaida 11 months ago
Damn classical schools. What did they get right? Tired of the main stream and main education system brain washing the masses arent you? Its good to see a few free minded folks emerge ever so often like Haramein, Rodin, Searl, Russel, and the like.
Anothercoilgun 11 months ago
I love it but wish it would keep going. Such a real wake up to more closely resemble what is taking place.
haolejohn 1 year ago
Nice work
tetekofa 1 year ago
@TheRealVerbz this is only a rough approximation meant to show the most basic levels of the actual motion
the point is we need to educate the educators not to describe to kids how the planets go around the sun in "circles".
Videorealms 1 year ago 4
@Videorealms I'm already in contact with Nassim's folks at the Resonance Project and the director of Frequency of Genius, Robert Sachs.
We need to tell more people about the work of Walter Russell, John Searl, Ed Leedskalnin, Viktor Schauberger, Dan Winter and Dr. Pallathadka Keshava Bhat.
Check out my friend's site called w w w,feandft,com
Free Energy and Free Thinking
:o)
We need to do Away with the so called educators who are actually indoctrinators and skip right to the people!
TheRealVerbz 1 year ago
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@Videorealms it's all relative. Relative to the sun the planets move in elleptical orbits so the standard model is correct.
Never took a class of mechanics and relative motion? Thinking this is new stuff is pretty naive.
RTRVII 5 months ago
@Videorealms I was under the assumption that our solar system orbits the galaxy in the same plane that the planets orbit our sun. I.e., that our solar system's plane is not tilted 90 degrees to the galaxy as you have it in this video (for example, as Uranus is tilted to our solar plane). Again, I made that as an assumption, are you sure it's how you have it in this video or am I misinterpreting your animation?
Regardless, I like how you want people to look at things from another perspective!
mooseflier 2 months ago
@mooseflier obviously this video is not showing the solar system's orientation to the galaxy - it is a very rough animation that was made because at the time there were no such animations that showed the fact that the planets dont simply rotate around the sun in a circle as we commonly explain to children. You can pick this apart in youtube comments but if you have the time to nit pick here then why dont you make a better video.
Videorealms 2 months ago
The Sun is not equally bright and hot all the way around. That can't be unless the Sun is stationary.
It's like a woman running in the wind. Her face keeps cool while her hair flows behind.
We look at the Cathode side of the Sun and says it must be even all the way around.
Just like science says an "electron" is a ball of energy even all the way around.
We only view the Cathode side of the Sun.
The anode side you can call a "Black Hole".
The other side of an "electron" you can call a "positron".
TheRealVerbz 1 year ago
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mattpresti 1 year ago
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mattpresti 1 year ago
if the sun was on the path of a sin wave and such like you said, the sun might be going in a sin wave instead of a straight line but the planets relative to the sun follow too , so relative to empty space yes they would still make the motions here, think of this as a stabalised model
jakestgermain 1 year ago
My point is, that all models omit SOME aspects, to better illustrate other aspects. A model omitting galactic velocity is just as valid as any other. Nassim is wrong to criticise one models omission while committing greater omissions in his own!
The galactic component of the solar systems motion is omitted not to HIDE anything, but because it is IRRELEVANT to most things, such as seasons, lunar and solar eclipses, comets, magnetospheres, solar wind, asteroids, space probe trajectories, etc.
Karma01010 2 years ago 2
@Karma01010 the difference is in the more closed mindedness we experienced over the last several decades and beyond. I believe Nassim would look at every angle and put out the closest thing we have and that is his model. You may see the relevancy come 12-21-12
haolejohn 1 year ago
you are correct the shadows are not accurate, the scale is not accurate, its not wide angle view enough to show the spiral of the sun in the galaxy or the curve of the sun's orbit.
What it does show is a basic essence of how the planets orbit the equator of the sun as the sun moves through space..
This animation, although not 100% accurate is a way better aproximation that models most people have been exposed to, therefore i think its a valuable piece of imagery.
Videorealms 2 years ago 8
@Videorealms
I agree: this is a very nice, useful video. Thanks for being so honest about its limitations.
JimSmithInChiapas 1 year ago
* Earth is 100th the Suns diameter, it should only show as a tiny dot here!
* The planets should be lit only on the sides facing the Sun, not all sides!
* The Solar System moves thru the Galaxy on an elliptical curve, not a straight line!
* It also moves up/down thru the Galactic Plane every 30 million years in a sine wave, not shown here!
* It is also moving towards Andromeda Galaxy. This movement is omitted!
Adding ALL these motions together, the planets do NOT make SPIRALS.
Karma01010 2 years ago
i think your missing the point, this video odviously stimulates perspective, your observations are of value though.
topjonn 1 year ago
Where can this information you are providing be found?
I've searched books on astronomy and haven't been able to find charts, diagrams or models to explain the orbit of our sun in our galaxy. How would this orbit even possibly be observed or measured?
bryanmilne 1 year ago
@bryanmilne Get a good astronomy program for your PC, such as "Starry Night", it explains all this, and it lets you fly around the galaxy and see any orbits from any perspective.
Karma01010 1 year ago
@bryanmilne Google: Solar Apex
Love this video, we're just a-crusin' thru space on our organic spaceship :)
Thnkabtit34 1 year ago
This has been known since the 1700's when William Herschell observed the motion of stars. He even determined the approximate direction of the Solar System's movement through Galactic space.
These combined motions of the Earth, Sun and Solar System are very well known to all astronomers. Only the uneducated think this is something that has been "hidden".
Karma01010 2 years ago 10
very good visualization and was waiting for something like this. Would be cool to have one that is looped in a Java applet so that we can view it from different angles whenever we want. Absolutely amazing this thank you so much,
RayJoel2007 2 years ago
Great Stuff but should be longer!!
Djelomou 2 years ago