Shamanism & Personal Liberties 1 of 6 with Jan Irvin

[sagitarian000028]

the government does not really care about the welfare of drug addicts, if they did they wouldnt arrest them

[Hashishin13]

It wasn't Leary's fault he may have just given them a little push towards their natural inclination, but they would have done it anyway. "They" (the mainstream) try to ban Salvia whenever they become aware of it. It is their knee jerk reaction out of fear and will-full and happy ignorance.

[Shroctopus]

Some on my most enlightning experiences were indoor mushroom trips.... it didn't really matter, at one point my ceiling melted away and i was staring into space.

[hash626]

i agree! i've only done this once, but doing mushrooms in isolation, laying on a bed, in a dark setting with closed eyes can be profoundly spiritual. i can proudly say that from personal experience. now i've never had a bad trip and ill tell you why, well not you but other people reading this. my first time i only had 1 gram, and from that i decided i liked them alot. i've also done them with other people several times, so im experienced. once you reach that level, doing them in isolation is fun

[newgtguy]

I'm about to try ibogaine up in Canada. The only thing is, I'm scared. I've never experienced any kind of Entheogen before...

Wish me luck!

[emptyhighways]

you've never tried any entheogen/psychedelic before??? and straight to ibogane? wow, that's definetly an intense start most likely, good luck! Are you doing it as an addiction treatment?

[emptyhighways]

First psychedelic I ever had was a uninformedly massive bong hit of salvia extract. The experience was very intense and, um, quite psychologically traumatic. That Philip K. Dickean paranoya that reality is about to suddenly shatter right under my feet is still something i feel whenever i recall that experience.

[EnoDude]

Mushroom are to take outdoors. It is a sort of union between you and the earth. They are not to be taken indoors such as night clubs or discos

[pulsating123]

I take them inside my house at night.....Sometimes outside but not often. Its not a party thing like you said. I do it well and alone and ritually give many thanks to the mushroom before ingesting them.

[EnoDude]

Thats very good my friend. I recommend you to get in the open field. Maybe go camping or walk thru trails or hiking. I usually go to the smokey mountains in knoxville Tennesse and go camping since i live close to it. Your experience of the earth would be most gratifying. Thanks

[TheWiretap]

they work for me both indoors and outdoors. It's a different trip either way. I've had amazing indoor trips, and incredibly outdoor trips too :) it works both ways, because you 'know the score' either way on shrooms regardless of your location.

I would actually love to know what a night club is like on shrooms though, I bet it is absoloutely hilarious.

[EnoDude]

@TheWiretap : You are then one of the few who can really trip like that, I can also do that and probably laugh my ass off because just like you, i understand what they are, but for someone who doesnt know or have done it for the first time it would be confusing. Thanks for that reply..

[TheLastCelticBard]

@EnoDude Here, here. I second that. I remember going to a particularly dodgy nightclub whilst off my tits on 100 P.Sem. I picked some meatheads pint up instead of mine by mistake and he came over and twatted me one to the cheeckbone. I jumped up laughing and said' Yeah, Motherfucker you're bad' and treated the shocked onlookers to some body popping/Thai Chi manouvres before getting asked to leave by the bouncers, ha,ha. Mushrooms, ideally should be a spiritual bonding experience with Gaia. Peace

[wessmann007]

Eat Drink and Beat Mary.......