The scene from coming to america comes to mind with this one where hes getting married to a woman who doesn't have a mind of her own, everytime he asks her what she likes she says "whatever you like".
Say I was in court, to convict a person for brutally beating up my friend to death. My best friend, a friend so close that I considered him my brother....I'm filled with anger and rage that I want to unleash on this person who did it.
@RightouesPath2011 I think the just decision would not be on this list. So, I will add it. You should testify against the man, and hope he is convicted. Because a just society would require there be consequences for murder. But that isn't revenge. And telling the truth isn't slander. And requiring me to forgive someone who wronged me is harmful to me. Thus, it is an immoral idea in itself.
"And requiring me to forgive someone who wronged me is harmful to me."
Forgiving is not FORGETTING, forgiving is the first step to healing. To accept the circumstance that can't be undone.
-Would u say it would be harmful to hold a grudge against this person? Being a slave to hate, confusion, frustration?
I apprieciate the response. I agree that emotions r involved and words are said it's human nature. Our creator wrote his Laws within us. To let us know what is right from wrong.
@RightouesPath2011 I can let something go, sure. But that isn't what forgiveness is about. Forgiveness is about absolving someone morally of wrongdoing. I shouldn't be required to do it. So I can hold a grudge, be miserable yeah, but I'll probably move on. But letting someone get a pass for what they did to me? Isn't going to help me to heal at all.
Our creator? You can't prove that we were created, or that God exists. God's laws are written within us? Such bullshit.
Fogiveness is not a one time thing....that popular saying forgive and forget is soo loosely used today. We must continue to forgive until the matter is settled in out hearts. We forgive for our own good..so we are not prisoners or anger, hate, bitterness. forgiving ultimately leads to... freedom.
-Corrie Ten Boom..a Christian woman who survived the holocaust said this. "Forgiveness is to set a prisoner free, and to realize the prisoner was you."
@RightouesPath2011 I am a prisoner to nothing. You know how I let go of anger, hate and bitterness? By seeing the people who do bad things punished according to the rule of law. By not believing in a Bronze Age tyrant god that has promoted endless hate, bigotry and violence. It was a Christian man, given the endorsement of the Roman Catholic Church, who caused the Holocaust, just so you know.
Interesting method of getting over anger and bitterness.....from what you wrote and what i understand... It all goes away when you watch the person that commited the crime against you punished?
-Bronze age tyrant? Jesus is the same in the past, present and the future. Although man and the country has changed quite dramitacally though.
-I'm troubled by the response and your thoughts on Miss Ten Boom quote about forgiveness.
@RightouesPath2011 He is the same in the past, present and future? Than we should follow his law, and stone adultresses. We should also "not suffer a witch to live". We should also kill those who worship false gods, as God commanded Israel to do to the Canaanites. I am troubled by your adherence to a faith that has endorsed violence, death and tyranny since its inception.
I hear you have al these questions about God. It's your choice to do so. I'm not here to tell you I have all the answers or tell you your mistaken. God understanding is beyond ours.
- Stone the adultress? Jesus was presented with this same situation. He said let those who have never sinned cast the first stone.
-Kill those who worshiped false Gods. Cannaanites wanted to make it a tradition for HUMAN sacrices to these pagan Gods, eithier of thier own people or others.
cont.. This is my understanding, I can go on and on about why this is wrong...but i won't. beacause i know where that leads and i'm not here for me, i'm here for Jesus. To share the Good News. To let you know that God Loves you. It's not about how many hail marys you say, or if you make it to church every Sunday.....It's about a relationship Jesus wants with you.
@RightouesPath2011 then you know nothing of your own religion, your god is a god of hate and prejudice, all the nice things you think you see in your religion are not there its what you wont to see, this is not a fault, if that makes you a kind and thoughtful person well thats good but plz dont think you get your morals from the bible otherwise you be killling and enslaving jews, black and anythings else that not of your creed.
Thanks for the reply, I'm confused by it though. You said "if that makes you a kind and thoughtful person well thats good but plz dont think you get your morals from the bible otherwise you be killling and enslaving jews, black" these statements seem to contradict. Jesus is not something I add to my life.. He is my Life.
-Friend, Jesus doesn't offer religion. He offers a personal relationship with Him. To be right with God through Jesus our Lord and Blessed savior.
So it's all God's fault? Maybe it's our parents? how dare they give birth to you and raise you!!!....maybe it's your friends fault? how dare they want to hang out with you!!! Maybe it's teachers? how dare they teach me...maybe it's the pastor...how dare he encourage me....
As long its someone elses fault.... we don't focus MY OWN choices...oh wait thats God fault too.
The right analogy would be if your parents, friends, teachers, and pastor all threatened to send you to a place of eternal torture if you didn't kiss their ass and obey their rules- one of those rules being that anyone who doesn't kiss their ass and obey their rules will go to a place of eternal torture.
As long as its someone elses fault..don't you dare focus on MY OWN choices....still won't look at that huh? I wonder why your so focused on having to "kiss butt and obey my rules OR ELSE!!"..sounds rebellious...kinda like my teenage years towards my Dad .Now that I am dad myself i know why the rules where there in the first place because my Dad loved me and wanted the best for me.
If you can understand this concept you will begin to understand God's unfailing love for you.
@RightouesPath2011 No choice I could make could ever conceivably deserve the punishment of eternal torture. It is infinite punishment for finite crimes, and it is entirely unjust and draconian.
If God exists, he can indeed squash me like a bug and he can send me to hell for my finite, human crimes. But that does not make him a moral being and that doesn't make him good; that only makes him strong.
If you equate strength with morality, no wonder you believe in this god.
What do you think happens when you die? Are you just going to accept the fact that "that it!!!! I bite the big one".. Don't lets this world tell you your just flesh and bones, that your another insignificants critic on youtube....God tells you different..that you are worth dying for. every slander, smack, hit, whip, nail, thorn...YOU ARE WORTH IT! 7 billion people on this planet, but none just like you, ur unique, ur are special. This is God's love for you.
@RightouesPath2011 God is a Mob Boss walking into your life and saying "Hey, nice place you got here. Be a shame if something were to happen to it. I can keep that from happening. All you gotta do is kiss my ass and obey my rules."
First of all I'm glad youre atleast acknowleging there is a God... His commandments are setup to show you.. you can't abide by them. To show us our sinful nature.. myself included, I have broken every one...(if you need explanation ask at my channel you are always welcome) but by His grace He provided a way for you to come to Him thats through his one and only son Jesus Christ.
An old preacher was dying. He sent a message for his banker and his lawyer, both church members, to come to his home.
When they arrived, they were ushered up to his bedroom. As they entered the room, the preacher held out his hands and motioned for them to sit on each side of the bed. The preacher grasped their hands, sighed contentedly, smiled, and stared at the ceiling. For a time, no one said anything.
Both the banker and lawyer were touched and flattered that the preacher would ask them to be with him during his final moments. They were also puzzled; the preacher had never given them any indication that he particularly liked either of them. They both remembered his many long, uncomfortable sermons about greed, covetousness, and avaricious behaviour that made them squirm in their seats.
@RightouesPath2011: That's bullshit. There would be laws regardless of whether religion exists or not. I reject the concept of sin, because I don't believe the claim that a god exists.
There are numerous laws within the various societies. Most are prevalent throughout the world, but certain individual cultures have patently stupid ones. There is trouble with the law, especially when religion is involved.
There is no such thing as a perfect life. That's absurd.
"There would be laws regardless of whether religion exists or not"....WHY? what are laws for? is it because we run around doing good all the time?
"There are numerous laws within the various societies. Most are prevalent throughout the world, but certain individual cultures have patently stupid ones."- Yet they are in place for a reason. maybe you should stop focusing on how it's everyone elses problem and not mine.
Laws exist because our species has agreed that these rules and regulations are important in maintaining a healthy society. This has nothing to do with an invisible man in the sky.
I love how you call yourself 'righteous' and yet you say it's 'everyone else's problem and not mine'. There is absolutely nothing righteous about your position, and I find it quite silly.
it's 'everyone else's problem and not mine'--- "mine" is refering to "your choice", I confessed to you that I am a sinner. All the questions I asked you I can honestly say YES I have done those things. "I love how you call yourself 'righteous' and yet you say it's 'everyone else's problem and not mine'. There is absolutely nothing righteous about your position, and I find it quite silly."--This is called pointing fingers
@RightouesPath2011 Moral "laws" have nothing to do with god. They evolved as a necessity for the survival of society and have done so throughout history whether or not that society was religious or secular. Societies that have not developed such "laws" have eventually destroyed themselves.
A primitive form of "morals" even exists in many social animals to protect the survival of the group. Human morals and ethics are more complex, purely because our societies are more complex.
"They evolved as a necessity for the survival of society" evolved from what? nothing?
Why is it a necessity? because humans are sinful in nature, it's the purpose of Law in the first place. Why have laws, if we live perfect lives?
So be honest with yourself Honestman395..... are you a sinner or are you going to hide behind the "complexities" of society. Renpent and turn to Jesus friend....the more you will see that the laws have everything to do with the LORD.
@RightouesPath2011 1/3. Sin has nothing to do with what is truly moral or ethical. It is purely a transgression of an arbitrary religious or moral law offending a capricious god. The word Sin doesn't even appear in the legal codes of any countries other than those governed by theocracies.
I keep the civil law to the best of my ability, but in no way do I call myself a sinner, as that is the stance of a mental slave and I do not recognise the sin concept as valid. Cont'd.
Sin is real, and its dangerous. Imagine a sunny day at the beach. you plunge into the surf; then u notice a sign on the peir: "noswimming. Sharks" your day is ruined. is it the signs fault? are you angry with the people who put them up? The law is like a sign. it is essential, and we are greatful for it-----but it doesn't get rid of the sharks...
@RightouesPath2011 2/3. The necessity for there being moral and ethical rules is purely survival. All successful societies religious or secular, have developed them. Are you honestly telling me that before the Ten Commandments, (all of which, apart from the first four, predate Moses by centuries), nobody thought that it wasn't a good idea to kill and steal etc?
Laws, unique to god, are neither moral nor ethical. If you followed them completely, you'd be arrested today. Cont'd.
Lets put it plainly. The Laws are in place because us human look out for "numero uno"...ourselves..you said it yourself "purely survival". You missing the point of laws, it would be there if we were all good... it's there to convict us, to help us realize that we broke them thus making us sinners. Sin used what was good (Law)to show us how terrible sin really is..hmmm I hope you understand that... how about this...cont
We are rebels, sin looks good to us because God has said it was wrong. so instead of paying attension to his warnings we use them as a "to do" list. When we are tempeted to rebel, we need to look at the law from a wider perspective--in the light of God's grace and merscy. If we focus on his great love for us, we will understand that he only restricts us from actions and attitudes that will ultimately harm us.
@RightouesPath2011 3/3. I assume by your talk that you follow god’s Laws strictly, so I would expect to see you and your friends walking the streets every Sabbath killing everyone you found working. (Exodus 31:15)
By the way which Sabbath would you choose? Sunday only became the Sabbath for Christians because The Emperor Constantine wanted to incorporate his pagan sun worshippers into Christianity and their holy day was a Sunday. so he made the christians change from Saturday.
Oh what a mesrable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin? Thank God! The answer is in Jesus Christ our Lord. So you see how it is:In my mind i want to obey God's law, but because of my sinful nature I am a slave to sin....It is only through Christ's power that lifts me up to real victory over sin.
At least we agree on something. You do appear to live a life dominated by self loathing and “sin”.
On the other hand, as I don’t accept the concept of god or sin, my life is one of happiness and contentment.
I try to live my life the best way I can. I have never knowingly broken any law, not even a speeding ticket. I've never knowingly hurt anyone and I try to help others whenever they need help. Cont'd.
@RightouesPath2011 2/6. To that end, both my wife and are long term volunteers for a major international charity whose aim is to save the lives of starving children all over the world.
I'm sorry, but if this is sinning, then I'm afraid we're going to have to continue doing it for as long as we can or maybe until your god decides that he has had enough fun torturing, starving and slaughtering innocent babies, after all, isn't he supposed to be in control of everything? Cont'd.
@RightouesPath2011 3/6. True morality and ethics don't come from any god. They comes from within each individual. Abrogating the responsibility of your own behaviour to a god is just a cowardly and morally bankrupt cop-out.
Are you honestly telling me that without the restraints of the promise of eternal life or the threat of eternal punishment, you would not be able to prevent yourself from leading a life of evil? If that's the case, then I truly feel sorry for you. Cont'd.
@RightouesPath2011 4/6. As I do not believe that there is any afterlife, either heaven or hell, I have no such expectations or restraints upon me, but that has never made me wish to sink to the levels of decadence that seem to obsess your mind and I can say from experience, the same applies to nearly all the atheists and agnostics I have met in my life.
Your obsession with sin says much more about you than any imaginary god.
I really think you need professional help. Cont'd.
@RightouesPath2011 5/6. As for god's "morality"? I think Richard Dawkins sums it up very well:
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser, a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."
@RightouesPath2011 6/6. Luckily for the world, he doesn't exist and there is absolutely no evidence to say that he does, other than in that ultimate work of fiction, the bible.
Modern research has shown that nearly everything in the bible is just a collection of myths and legends invented by superstitious, uneducated goat herders, desperately trying to make sense of their world, of which they knew less than a modern day 12 yr old.
It's amazing how you glance over the fact, that laws are in place because people do bad things...it's fact.
-The power of sin is strong...your comments validate it. 1/6 comments you paint the picture of you as the "good guy" then proceed with comment 2/6, 3/6, 4/6, 5/6, 6/6. To attempt to dismantle, degrade, mock and belittle who you think I am. coming from a guy who claims "I've never knowingly hurt anyone and I try to help others whenever they need help."
The laws are meant to bring you to repentance. To have some self revelation no matter how hard I try, I want to go back to doing ME and what i want, I don't care if what anybody else says.. That's all sin is our own will, before God's will.
-Mr. Dawkins..(well i guess now it's your understanding too)..of God is shallow and made with an unbelieving heart.
-when you get to that point, Jesus is all you need. He paid the cost and is always ready to forgive.
@RightouesPath2011 Quote: "no matter how hard I try, I want to go back to doing ME and what i want, I don't care if what anybody else says.."
As I've said, that says more about the weakness of your character than the strength of your imaginary god and Dawkin's opinion of god is backed by the bible.
Quote: "Jesus is all you need. He paid the cost"
Even if he existed, which is in question, (nobody who met him, wrote about him in his own lifetime), exactly what cost did he pay?
hmm your not understanding, i'm trying to explain human tendency..as you put it survival.
Is saying somthing doesn't exist your answer for everything...or just the things you don't want to think it's true because hmmm maybe it could shine on something you have hidden away? Jesus never existed? despite 2000 yrs of church history.... hey it's your choice not to believe..but there will come a day when every knee will bow and every toungue confess that Jesus is King.
Imagine living in slavery, like ur ancestors 400 yrs before you. All you know is evil customs of ur master, human sacrifice to pagan gods, sexual immorality and slavery..then all of a sudden it all ends and your free..do you think laws are going to be set in place? what do you think people will do if they disagree with the law? the old testament is a story of love and preperation..God fathering his children.
The old testament, is the uncensored truth of the love and mercy of God on his chosen people no matter howmany time they rebelled. preparing them for the savior of the world that will come from the Jewish people.
Jesus Christ came not to condemn the world but to save the WORLD.that means you, me, AE staff. He displayed his love by sacrificing his life for us ALL. then rose on the 3rd day to let us know this life is not the end for us if we have faith.
@RightouesPath2011 1/9. Sorry for the delay in replying, but life goes on outside of Youtube.
To answer your points. I understand you very well. It may well be a human tendency from your point of view, but it has not been my experience in life. However, as I've already said, that says more about your character and outlook on life that it does mine.
I can assure you, much as you would like to think it, I have nothing in my life "hidden away" as you call it. Cont'd.
@RightouesPath2011 2/9. I didn't say Jesus never existed. I said god never existed and, other than in the bible, there is no evidence for his existence.
I have no problem with the idea that there may have been a preacher called Jesus around at the time. Jesus was a very common name. There were at least two High Priests of the time called Jesus and even Barabbas' first name is thought to have been Jesus, although he is most likely to have been a myth as well. Cont'd.
@RightouesPath2011 3/9. However, There is no evidence that the Jesus of the bible was anything other than an ordinary, if charismatic, good man.
Even the bible itself proves the nativity could never have happened in the way that the bible says it did and as for Jesus life and miracles, they have been appropriated from a number of other ancient gods. His parables come from other writings from groups such as the Essenes, which predate Jesus by many years. Cont'd.
Even though you don't believe that Jesus is the Son of God. The savior of the world!! That His sacrifice was for you and me.... doesn't mean He doesn't believe in you. He takes every word you say against Him...restlessly finds the door to your heart... to tell you I LOVE YOU STILL.
@RightouesPath2011 4/9. Also, there were over 40 writers and philosophers that we know of, who were active at the time, but not one of them wrote about him during his supposed lifetime, even in passing. Don't you find that strange?
Jesus is supposed to have done many highly public demonstrations and performed miracles; speaking to massive crowds, healing the sick, raising the dead, walking on water, publicly tried by the Roman Governor himself, etc. etc. Cont'd.
@RightouesPath2011 5/9. Surely all that public activity must have created some interest in what was, in reality, a highly controlled and regulated police state.
However, Other than the bible, there is no independent record of his life from the nativity to the Crucifixion.
As for the resurrection. That has been edited and added to since it was first written.
Mark's gospel is now accepted, by most biblical scholars, as the one that the other gospels were copied from. Cont'd.
@RightouesPath2011 6/9. The original account of the resurrection in the earliest copies of Mark, such as the one in the Codex Sinaiticus, stops at chap.16. vs.8, with a "young man" informing Mary and other women that Jesus had arisen and instructing them to tell the disciples.
However, Ch.16 vs.8 specifically says that they told NO-ONE, and that's where the original story ends. There is no mention of anyone seeing Jesus at any time. Cont'd.
@RightouesPath2011 7/9. The additional verses 9 -20 detailing Jesus’ many appearances to others were added much later, by the early church fathers, and embellished and incorporated into the other gospels, to give authenticity.
Also, when it comes to Jesus' supposed sacrifice on the cross, where was the sacrifice?
The bible says he knew it was going to happen and he knew that he would survive it and live in heaven. In no way could that be called a sacrifice. Cont'd.
"The bible says he knew it was going to happen and he knew that he would survive it and live in heaven. In no way could that be called a sacrifice."
-This is the picture of Faith. His faith in God our Father, that He is going to do what He promises...without the evidence. Can you honestly say that your are willing to take that punishment... in the middle of the beating, in the middle of getting nails to your hand...tell youself I have no proof but I know I will be resurrected....
In the middle of the whipping..to tell youself I'm doing this for the guy who is whipping me right now, for the murderers, the prostitutes, the sinners....All this... for the hope that they will live with me in heaven If they BELIEVE I did this for them...that they are worth it.
Do me a favor and read Matthew 13:14-15.Jesus explains exactly what He want to do for you...
Thank you for your reply, I hope we continue this conversation, You r more than welcome to comment on my channel
Do me a favor and read Matthew 13:14-15.Jesus explains exactly what He want to do for you... Despite how we percieve Jesus and His teachings.....HE STILL wants to heal YOU. What a wonderful savior..Praise the LORD!!!
@RightouesPath2011 8/9. You talk about the abolition of slavery as an example of god's goodness. Are you telling me that there was no law and order before the ten commandments and no pagan gods, sexual immorality and slavery after?
The bible itself tells the Israelites who they could take for slaves and this continued with Jesus himself, who gave advice on how to beat a slave. Luke 12:45-48.
Paul sent a runaway slave, the property of a Christian, back to his owner. Cont'd.
"The bible itself tells the Israelites who they could take for slaves and this continued with Jesus himself, who gave advice on how to beat a slave. Luke 12:45-48." As I understand your thoughts from a skeptics view, let me share with you it meaning, I pray you understand. Luke 12 45-48 Jesus said repeatedly that He was leaving this world but would return in the future. To prepare the Kingdom for his followers. He promises rewards for those who have been faithful to Him(master)..
..while Christians sometimes experience immediate and material rewards for our obedience to God, this is not always the case. If so we would be tempted to boast about our own achievements and only do good for what we get. relates the verse in (Mark 8:36). My heavenly rewards will accurately reflect what I have done here on earth... So Jesus told us how to live until he comes. We must watch for Him, work diligently, and obey his commands.
I'm glad that you advise me to read the bible more thorougly...which I do, with eyes to see and ears to hear...but i read it as a believer as opposed to a skeptic. Where you see "slave" as a chance to expose some harshness in the word of God.. (Ephisians 6), I encourage you to see a slave as an employee...another definition in the dictionary is a "Hard worker". continuing with Ephisians 9 such a contrast with the dominant understanding salvery, which is usually against someones..
..will and treating them like nthing, or selling and trading of human beings...Ephesians 9 is the complete opposite..saying you must treat you slaves right, do not threaten them. because they both serve them same master in Heaven because does no choose favorites... think of it that in those time negative slavery was rampant!! now your hear something against the grain...a revolutionary way of thinking..lots of people rejected that because they wanted dominance over another person
another thing I want you to think about, a slave being a hard worker. In those times it's not like you can go in to your local blacksmith and say can I have an are you hiring? can I have an application? it did not work that way.
I reject the concept of sin- well sir what is your definition of sin?
There is no such thing as a perfect life. That's absurd.- so by your own account, there are somethings in your life that your not proud of...am i correct? have you ever lied? or hurt someone feeling by the words you say? or get angry with those who strongly disagree with you? its eay to glance over ur choices when u reject the concept of doing anything wrong in the first place.
Say your at a court of Law and being a witness to your best friend who got killed by a drunk driver. But this drunk driver tells the judge, "judge it was just one night Never had a drink in my life till now. i made a bad choice just this once. look at my record I give to charity, helps little kids and feed the homeless. That judge says ok 5 months probation...would you feel justice is served for your friend?
-God did not create robots, He created humans and gave them free will.And no matter how hot and horrible I tell you hell is or how peaceful heaven is YOU STILL CHOOSE.
Is AE the source you get ur info? Say you want to buy a dodge truck and you want to get professional opinion, do you go to a mazda dealer? no you go to someone who put his trust in the dodge product. I'll share with you about God anytime just ask
Brother I have nothing to prove. I know God exist, because what He has done for me. You don't have to believe me, but that is my testimony.
-The Bible tells us exactly who God is. "if you seek him, you will find him" (Jeremiah 29:13) He awaits our discovery, God's face awaits our study. How do we seek the face of an invisible God? We read His letter. We read the Bible because "the Scriptures point to me!" (John 5:39). God bless Brother.
@RightouesPath2011 You have everything to prove. Suppose I told you today that there was an Invisible Pink Unicorn or Flying Spaghetti Monster, and I produced a book with nice stories, poetry, and philosophical musings, and I told you this book makes me right. What would you say to me, as a reasonable man/woman? And I am not your brother. Just so we're clear. I am me, you are you.
I'm not implying I'm right. I'm sharing testimony, wiether you believe me or not, is not of my control. If you choose to believe a spagetti monster and write about him then that your choice and your testimony.
- The Bible is the most incredible book ever written. No other book compares with it.
@Thatmakessense356 being an atheist is like being unplugged from the matrix, yeah you see the real world, but you still know what's right, and you still fight for what's right. We are creating the wake in which our children and other will finally shut out this "God delusion"(Richard Dawkins), and wake up to reason, science, real beauty, and real happiness. Let us look forward to the future. sry Thatmakessense356, I felt like posting this as a reply to your comment, of which i agree.
Oh my gosh, I will sound horrible for this, but I would love you to have the time to debate every hardcore christian friend of mine, because, honestly, I know you could crush their egos!
The bulk of are Laws came from the Ten Commandments,right! Then there has to be a judge... The war criminals are off the hook scott free...Of course the ones that did'nt get lynched.. slaughtered tens of thousands,some cases whole families,and no divine judgment! Really?
@flatop59 Life isn't fair (I learned that at about age 8 when I lost the spelling bee). Sometimes people get away with things. If you think their life of horrible actions, and being exiled from moral society isn't a punishment in it's own right, then you must be very confused. It's a nice thought to think everyone "get's it in the end", but that doesn't make it true or believable.
You know all those priests who we hear about in all those church sex scandals - well they WERE listening to god. I mean lets face, their behavior IS in keeping with the 'character' of this god.
Thus we have proof god exists - Okay okay, I know - we have to modify the definition of god a bit to something like -> that god is essentially a mental illness.
i've been watching these videos for over an hour, and this video is the best. absolutely spot on. to me it's not interesting if god exists or not, it's about being as good a person as you can. sometimes i'm so happy that i was brought up in a secular state as sweden...
"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 22:28)"
(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.
@OxiDemonik Oh, that's good. I'm gonna rework that into a quip and whip it out in any chat about morals with theists.
Rough draft: "God is the most evil character ever and deserves the worst punishment ever. He's going to make himself spend eternity surrounded by Christians, but I'm not even sure *that's* bad enough!"
@therealfriday13th How can an entity that is irrational generate a universe which is governed by rational processes and create beings capable of rational thinking? But you see it's a paradox, because only an irrational, unquestioning God could ever handle eternity with these kinds of people, or at least not foresee this situation occurring. Therefore Bible = FAIL, as it is proven through deductive reasoning to be the so ;D
@OxiDemonik Pretty much, yeah. But wouldn't a Christian argue here that God "works in mysterious ways", or that "what is irrational to us is rational to God", or some shiat like that?
@therealfriday13th No doubt, it is impossible to reason with any religious person, hence why there are so many of them that remain in today's world. I've used every argument in the book. Here's one, you actually have an extreme statistical predisposition to possess a particular belief system in conjunction with the region where you grow up. In other words, you are significantly more likely to go to hell if you are born and live in India (2% Christians) than the US (76% Christians).
@DestAeval Yeah but in a sense the Christian view is C. She deserved it because she's not a Christian and chose her fate. I.E. hell, she sent herself there. I dont agree with this but you never hear a christian say somone in hell's punishement should cease.
That would mean bad things never happens to Christians (which contradicts reality), and the only thing that God would ever punish would be disbelief in him, as every bad thing to ever happen to people would only happen to non-Christians, which they rightfully deserved, meaning "no real evil was done".
But in the case that people do believe bad things are bad things, regardless of the victim's religion, God is suppose to judge the criminal correct?
@DestAeval Ah but in various part of the Old Testament it's God's will to rape, pillage and kill. So it depends on whether the "criminal" is acting upon his own free will. Pharoah, for example, refused to free the Jews after Yahwah hardened his heart. I see your point, but I didnt realize you meant the rape victim was a Christian in your scenerio. Some sects say bad things are God's wrath, like Pat Robertson or Fred Phelps.
Actually my scenario is directed to those who see bad things as bad things, regardless of the victim's beliefs.
Also, now that you mention about that Pharaoh incident, such was an example where the Christian god violated someone's free will, and did "evil" with it instead, so I guess it's not like their god can`t go with A (except that would be "against his nature".)
@DestAeval destaeval, this is beautiful, and sorry, but imma have to steal it for use in my arguments for now on =x...no worries though i dont make videos, they are only personal arguments...verrrrryyyy well done.
I disagree. Not with the fact that is the morally correct choice but that it violates free will. You could view it the other way and see it as protecting the free will of the rape victim.
@DestAeval What if the "victim" was going to rape someone and God "stopped" them by allowing the rapist to rape them, causing the "victim" to know what it feels like. People always ask "why does God allow bad things to happen to "Innocent" people?" But when they hear that God destroyed entire cities..then they have the audacity to say "What kind of a God would do that!? He has anger issues". We've become so obsessed with telling God what to do,that we dont do what we have to do..Help each other.
If that was the case for the victim, then I would say that this god is not only stupid, but evil.
Assuming you`re talking about an omnipotent and omniscient deity, that has got to be one of the stupidest ways of persuading someone to not do harm onto others.
I don`t believe one exists and waste no time attempting to discipline fictitious characters.
If one existed, I would label such an entity as evil to the highest degree.
@DestAeval "Evil" according to who? Politicians? Whoever put a price on medicine, knowledge,water, etc.? If you are a Good person, you will disprove your real enemy. P.s. You didnt say How he should stop a rapist.. Any suggestions?
Evil according to the speaker, me. What I call evil is what I consider as evil.
As to how to stop a rapist that`d be easy were I omnipotent and omniscient.
There's many ways to do it, but the best way would be to not resolve this single issue, but to destroy all issues at its core. I would re-write how this existence functions. I would eliminate "harmful" concepts. Concepts such as evil, rape, etc... I would rewrite the world so that such concepts would/could/need not exist.
@DestAeval This is fun. kind of like an RPG. Ok. what if you had sons, and one was so spiteful against you (like most teenagers) that he not only thought he could do your job better, but Would do it as your total opposite? Thus creating rape, hate, lies, envy, pride, Etc. How would you handle him (and his followers). Keep in mind.. That you cant do it "Harmfuly".
@DestAeval Someones always Got a bone to pick. One of your humans would most likely complain that you made life pleasant because you thought they were weak. Then, they would fly up to your kingdom (probably because you gave them the gift of flight) and demand that you provide them a challenge, but not before they rough you up a bit. ( ;
Assuming I've already eliminated all "harmful" concepts, and still an omniscient and omnipotent entity, I thought I already killed concepts such as "weakness", "disapproval/dissatisfaction", etc...
Also the concepts such as "difficulty" wouldn't even exist, so they would've never asked for a non-existent thing called a "challenge".
@DestAeval Would they know what they were doing? When I was a child messing with my families things, I didnt know I was wrong. I had never been taught the concept before.I didnt learn about stealing until after I stole. Even if they did try to teach me, I still didnt understand. Thats why I did it. What would you do to keep humans from hurting each other or themselves?
The concept of hurting each other does not exist. When I say I would kill concepts, I don't mean like wiping it off the dictionary, but rather, were reality like an RPG game, there would be no option to inflict harm.
The reality that I would create would be very unalike this one.
@DestAeval I think you beat the Game. It sounds like you understand. In order to save lives.. sometimes..You Gotta be a... Dictator. Thats why we have so many rules. I gotta ask you. Would you wipe your own mind of these consepts?
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RightouesPath2011 3 weeks ago
666 likes... Nice.
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RightouesPath2011 2 months ago
The scene from coming to america comes to mind with this one where hes getting married to a woman who doesn't have a mind of her own, everytime he asks her what she likes she says "whatever you like".
fundles420 3 months ago
Someone who once shoplifted a bag of peanuts get's the same fate as a serial killer. Eternal torture.
Forthelemon 5 months ago
Here,
Say I was in court, to convict a person for brutally beating up my friend to death. My best friend, a friend so close that I considered him my brother....I'm filled with anger and rage that I want to unleash on this person who did it.
should I....
A) seek revenge
B) curse him and slander him
C) forgive him
RightouesPath2011 5 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 C) forgive him, However your Yahweh Jehovah is not going to forgive anyone.
halolIlmao0 4 months ago
@halolIlmao0
Only through Jesus Christ, who took the penalty for our sins.
RightouesPath2011 4 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 Now explain the Adam and Eve story again?
halolIlmao0 4 months ago
@halolIlmao0 "The Lord our God is merciful and forgiving, even though we have rebelled against him;"
Daniel 9:9
Peace and God bless
RightouesPath2011 3 months ago
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@RightouesPath2011 Ezekiel 14:9
And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet.
I only serve a god that ONLY tells the truth. If no being exist then I serve no god.
halolIlmao0 3 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 I think the just decision would not be on this list. So, I will add it. You should testify against the man, and hope he is convicted. Because a just society would require there be consequences for murder. But that isn't revenge. And telling the truth isn't slander. And requiring me to forgive someone who wronged me is harmful to me. Thus, it is an immoral idea in itself.
lazerbeam134 3 months ago
@lazerbeam134
"And requiring me to forgive someone who wronged me is harmful to me."
Forgiving is not FORGETTING, forgiving is the first step to healing. To accept the circumstance that can't be undone.
-Would u say it would be harmful to hold a grudge against this person? Being a slave to hate, confusion, frustration?
I apprieciate the response. I agree that emotions r involved and words are said it's human nature. Our creator wrote his Laws within us. To let us know what is right from wrong.
RightouesPath2011 3 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 I can let something go, sure. But that isn't what forgiveness is about. Forgiveness is about absolving someone morally of wrongdoing. I shouldn't be required to do it. So I can hold a grudge, be miserable yeah, but I'll probably move on. But letting someone get a pass for what they did to me? Isn't going to help me to heal at all.
Our creator? You can't prove that we were created, or that God exists. God's laws are written within us? Such bullshit.
lazerbeam134 3 months ago
@lazerbeam134
Fogiveness is not a one time thing....that popular saying forgive and forget is soo loosely used today. We must continue to forgive until the matter is settled in out hearts. We forgive for our own good..so we are not prisoners or anger, hate, bitterness. forgiving ultimately leads to... freedom.
-Corrie Ten Boom..a Christian woman who survived the holocaust said this. "Forgiveness is to set a prisoner free, and to realize the prisoner was you."
peace and God bless
RightouesPath2011 3 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 I am a prisoner to nothing. You know how I let go of anger, hate and bitterness? By seeing the people who do bad things punished according to the rule of law. By not believing in a Bronze Age tyrant god that has promoted endless hate, bigotry and violence. It was a Christian man, given the endorsement of the Roman Catholic Church, who caused the Holocaust, just so you know.
lazerbeam134 3 months ago
@lazerbeam134
Interesting method of getting over anger and bitterness.....from what you wrote and what i understand... It all goes away when you watch the person that commited the crime against you punished?
-Bronze age tyrant? Jesus is the same in the past, present and the future. Although man and the country has changed quite dramitacally though.
-I'm troubled by the response and your thoughts on Miss Ten Boom quote about forgiveness.
I pray the Lord shows how much He LOVES you.
God bless
RightouesPath2011 3 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 He is the same in the past, present and future? Than we should follow his law, and stone adultresses. We should also "not suffer a witch to live". We should also kill those who worship false gods, as God commanded Israel to do to the Canaanites. I am troubled by your adherence to a faith that has endorsed violence, death and tyranny since its inception.
lazerbeam134 3 months ago
@lazerbeam134
I hear you have al these questions about God. It's your choice to do so. I'm not here to tell you I have all the answers or tell you your mistaken. God understanding is beyond ours.
- Stone the adultress? Jesus was presented with this same situation. He said let those who have never sinned cast the first stone.
-Kill those who worshiped false Gods. Cannaanites wanted to make it a tradition for HUMAN sacrices to these pagan Gods, eithier of thier own people or others.
RightouesPath2011 3 months ago
@lazerbeam134
cont.. This is my understanding, I can go on and on about why this is wrong...but i won't. beacause i know where that leads and i'm not here for me, i'm here for Jesus. To share the Good News. To let you know that God Loves you. It's not about how many hail marys you say, or if you make it to church every Sunday.....It's about a relationship Jesus wants with you.
RightouesPath2011 3 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 then you know nothing of your own religion, your god is a god of hate and prejudice, all the nice things you think you see in your religion are not there its what you wont to see, this is not a fault, if that makes you a kind and thoughtful person well thats good but plz dont think you get your morals from the bible otherwise you be killling and enslaving jews, black and anythings else that not of your creed.
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Thanks for the reply, I'm confused by it though. You said "if that makes you a kind and thoughtful person well thats good but plz dont think you get your morals from the bible otherwise you be killling and enslaving jews, black" these statements seem to contradict. Jesus is not something I add to my life.. He is my Life.
-Friend, Jesus doesn't offer religion. He offers a personal relationship with Him. To be right with God through Jesus our Lord and Blessed savior.
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
@lazerbeam134
Jesus longs for a relationship with you. The Bible traces the story of God.
Who couldn't leave us alone
He couldn't leave us alone in our sin
He couldn't leave us alone in our fear
He couldn't leave us alone with our death.
So God Himself became one of us. He took on our form, our flesh and most of all---our sin.
He took our place so we could go to his. This is the story of the Bible.
The story that will change souls.
RightouesPath2011 3 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 So God sacrificed himself to himself to save us from the punishment for breaking rules that he himself put into place?
Also, here: watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI This is the character of your god. Whaddaguy, huh?
TheGeneralCritic 3 weeks ago
@TheGeneralCritic
So it's all God's fault? Maybe it's our parents? how dare they give birth to you and raise you!!!....maybe it's your friends fault? how dare they want to hang out with you!!! Maybe it's teachers? how dare they teach me...maybe it's the pastor...how dare he encourage me....
As long its someone elses fault.... we don't focus MY OWN choices...oh wait thats God fault too.
RightouesPath2011 3 weeks ago
@RightouesPath2011 You're making the wrong analogy.
The right analogy would be if your parents, friends, teachers, and pastor all threatened to send you to a place of eternal torture if you didn't kiss their ass and obey their rules- one of those rules being that anyone who doesn't kiss their ass and obey their rules will go to a place of eternal torture.
TheGeneralCritic 3 weeks ago
@TheGeneralCritic
As long as its someone elses fault..don't you dare focus on MY OWN choices....still won't look at that huh? I wonder why your so focused on having to "kiss butt and obey my rules OR ELSE!!"..sounds rebellious...kinda like my teenage years towards my Dad .Now that I am dad myself i know why the rules where there in the first place because my Dad loved me and wanted the best for me.
If you can understand this concept you will begin to understand God's unfailing love for you.
RightouesPath2011 3 weeks ago
@RightouesPath2011 No choice I could make could ever conceivably deserve the punishment of eternal torture. It is infinite punishment for finite crimes, and it is entirely unjust and draconian.
If God exists, he can indeed squash me like a bug and he can send me to hell for my finite, human crimes. But that does not make him a moral being and that doesn't make him good; that only makes him strong.
If you equate strength with morality, no wonder you believe in this god.
TheGeneralCritic 2 weeks ago
@TheGeneralCritic
What do you think happens when you die? Are you just going to accept the fact that "that it!!!! I bite the big one".. Don't lets this world tell you your just flesh and bones, that your another insignificants critic on youtube....God tells you different..that you are worth dying for. every slander, smack, hit, whip, nail, thorn...YOU ARE WORTH IT! 7 billion people on this planet, but none just like you, ur unique, ur are special. This is God's love for you.
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@RightouesPath2011 That has nothing to do with anything. Again, I ask: why are we born sinful? Where does our sinful nature come from?
TheGeneralCritic 2 weeks ago
@RightouesPath2011 God is a Mob Boss walking into your life and saying "Hey, nice place you got here. Be a shame if something were to happen to it. I can keep that from happening. All you gotta do is kiss my ass and obey my rules."
TheGeneralCritic 3 weeks ago
@TheGeneralCritic
First of all I'm glad youre atleast acknowleging there is a God... His commandments are setup to show you.. you can't abide by them. To show us our sinful nature.. myself included, I have broken every one...(if you need explanation ask at my channel you are always welcome) but by His grace He provided a way for you to come to Him thats through his one and only son Jesus Christ.
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
@RightouesPath2011 Why are we sinful? What happened to us to make us naturally sinful?
TheGeneralCritic 2 weeks ago
@TheGeneralCritic
I think the question you should ask yourself is am I a sinful?..... if you don't think you are than what is the point of explaining this to you?
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
@RightouesPath2011 Humor me.
TheGeneralCritic 2 weeks ago
@TheGeneralCritic
An old preacher was dying. He sent a message for his banker and his lawyer, both church members, to come to his home.
When they arrived, they were ushered up to his bedroom. As they entered the room, the preacher held out his hands and motioned for them to sit on each side of the bed. The preacher grasped their hands, sighed contentedly, smiled, and stared at the ceiling. For a time, no one said anything.
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
@TheGeneralCritic
Both the banker and lawyer were touched and flattered that the preacher would ask them to be with him during his final moments. They were also puzzled; the preacher had never given them any indication that he particularly liked either of them. They both remembered his many long, uncomfortable sermons about greed, covetousness, and avaricious behaviour that made them squirm in their seats.
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
@TheGeneralCritic
Finally, the banker said, "Preacher, why did you ask us to come?"
The old preacher mustered up his strength and then said weakly, "Jesus died between two thieves, and that's how I want to go."
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
@RightouesPath2011 That has nothing to do with anything. Again, I ask: why are we born sinful? Where does our sinful nature come from?
TheGeneralCritic 2 weeks ago
@TheGeneralCritic
you asked for humor, i gave it to you. =)
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
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@RightouesPath2011 :facepalm: If you're not going to take this seriously, I'm not going to waste any more time on you.
For the last time: why are we born sinful? Where does our sinful nature come from?
TheGeneralCritic 2 weeks ago
@TheGeneralCritic
Again I ask... are you a sinner? If you don't think you are than what the point?
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
@RightouesPath2011 You have proposed that we are all sinners. I am asking you, from where do you get this information? How do you know?
TheGeneralCritic 2 weeks ago
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The mirror, I can set my pride down, look myself in the eyes and say that I am a sinner....can you do the same or have you lived a perfect life?
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
@RightouesPath2011: The concept of sin is an illusion, created in order to keep the faithful in check.
chinopisces 2 weeks ago
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If there was no sin, there would be no need for laws. For it is the law that showed me my sin.
- So your answer to"I don't want to look at my choices" point fingers at the faithful it's for those guys, it's an illusion to me.
-The trouble is not the Law, it's you, it's me....can you come to that conclusion?......or are you just living a perfect life?
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
@RightouesPath2011: That's bullshit. There would be laws regardless of whether religion exists or not. I reject the concept of sin, because I don't believe the claim that a god exists.
There are numerous laws within the various societies. Most are prevalent throughout the world, but certain individual cultures have patently stupid ones. There is trouble with the law, especially when religion is involved.
There is no such thing as a perfect life. That's absurd.
chinopisces 2 weeks ago
@chinopisces
"There would be laws regardless of whether religion exists or not"....WHY? what are laws for? is it because we run around doing good all the time?
"There are numerous laws within the various societies. Most are prevalent throughout the world, but certain individual cultures have patently stupid ones."- Yet they are in place for a reason. maybe you should stop focusing on how it's everyone elses problem and not mine.
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
@RightouesPath2011: Wow. You really have to ask?
Laws exist because our species has agreed that these rules and regulations are important in maintaining a healthy society. This has nothing to do with an invisible man in the sky.
I love how you call yourself 'righteous' and yet you say it's 'everyone else's problem and not mine'. There is absolutely nothing righteous about your position, and I find it quite silly.
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it's 'everyone else's problem and not mine'--- "mine" is refering to "your choice", I confessed to you that I am a sinner. All the questions I asked you I can honestly say YES I have done those things. "I love how you call yourself 'righteous' and yet you say it's 'everyone else's problem and not mine'. There is absolutely nothing righteous about your position, and I find it quite silly."--This is called pointing fingers
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
@RightouesPath2011 Moral "laws" have nothing to do with god. They evolved as a necessity for the survival of society and have done so throughout history whether or not that society was religious or secular. Societies that have not developed such "laws" have eventually destroyed themselves.
A primitive form of "morals" even exists in many social animals to protect the survival of the group. Human morals and ethics are more complex, purely because our societies are more complex.
HonestMan395 2 weeks ago
@HonestMan395
"They evolved as a necessity for the survival of society" evolved from what? nothing?
Why is it a necessity? because humans are sinful in nature, it's the purpose of Law in the first place. Why have laws, if we live perfect lives?
So be honest with yourself Honestman395..... are you a sinner or are you going to hide behind the "complexities" of society. Renpent and turn to Jesus friend....the more you will see that the laws have everything to do with the LORD.
RightouesPath2011 1 week ago
@RightouesPath2011 1/3. Sin has nothing to do with what is truly moral or ethical. It is purely a transgression of an arbitrary religious or moral law offending a capricious god. The word Sin doesn't even appear in the legal codes of any countries other than those governed by theocracies.
I keep the civil law to the best of my ability, but in no way do I call myself a sinner, as that is the stance of a mental slave and I do not recognise the sin concept as valid. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 1 week ago
@HonestMan395
Sin is real, and its dangerous. Imagine a sunny day at the beach. you plunge into the surf; then u notice a sign on the peir: "noswimming. Sharks" your day is ruined. is it the signs fault? are you angry with the people who put them up? The law is like a sign. it is essential, and we are greatful for it-----but it doesn't get rid of the sharks...
RightouesPath2011 1 week ago
@RightouesPath2011 2/3. The necessity for there being moral and ethical rules is purely survival. All successful societies religious or secular, have developed them. Are you honestly telling me that before the Ten Commandments, (all of which, apart from the first four, predate Moses by centuries), nobody thought that it wasn't a good idea to kill and steal etc?
Laws, unique to god, are neither moral nor ethical. If you followed them completely, you'd be arrested today. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 1 week ago
@HonestMan395
Lets put it plainly. The Laws are in place because us human look out for "numero uno"...ourselves..you said it yourself "purely survival". You missing the point of laws, it would be there if we were all good... it's there to convict us, to help us realize that we broke them thus making us sinners. Sin used what was good (Law)to show us how terrible sin really is..hmmm I hope you understand that... how about this...cont
RightouesPath2011 1 week ago
@HonestMan395
We are rebels, sin looks good to us because God has said it was wrong. so instead of paying attension to his warnings we use them as a "to do" list. When we are tempeted to rebel, we need to look at the law from a wider perspective--in the light of God's grace and merscy. If we focus on his great love for us, we will understand that he only restricts us from actions and attitudes that will ultimately harm us.
RightouesPath2011 1 week ago
@RightouesPath2011 3/3. I assume by your talk that you follow god’s Laws strictly, so I would expect to see you and your friends walking the streets every Sabbath killing everyone you found working. (Exodus 31:15)
By the way which Sabbath would you choose? Sunday only became the Sabbath for Christians because The Emperor Constantine wanted to incorporate his pagan sun worshippers into Christianity and their holy day was a Sunday. so he made the christians change from Saturday.
HonestMan395 1 week ago
@HonestMan395
Oh what a mesrable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin? Thank God! The answer is in Jesus Christ our Lord. So you see how it is:In my mind i want to obey God's law, but because of my sinful nature I am a slave to sin....It is only through Christ's power that lifts me up to real victory over sin.
RightouesPath2011 1 week ago
@RightouesPath2011 1/6. Quote “Oh what a mesrable person I am!”
At least we agree on something. You do appear to live a life dominated by self loathing and “sin”.
On the other hand, as I don’t accept the concept of god or sin, my life is one of happiness and contentment.
I try to live my life the best way I can. I have never knowingly broken any law, not even a speeding ticket. I've never knowingly hurt anyone and I try to help others whenever they need help. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 1 week ago
@RightouesPath2011 2/6. To that end, both my wife and are long term volunteers for a major international charity whose aim is to save the lives of starving children all over the world.
I'm sorry, but if this is sinning, then I'm afraid we're going to have to continue doing it for as long as we can or maybe until your god decides that he has had enough fun torturing, starving and slaughtering innocent babies, after all, isn't he supposed to be in control of everything? Cont'd.
HonestMan395 1 week ago
@RightouesPath2011 3/6. True morality and ethics don't come from any god. They comes from within each individual. Abrogating the responsibility of your own behaviour to a god is just a cowardly and morally bankrupt cop-out.
Are you honestly telling me that without the restraints of the promise of eternal life or the threat of eternal punishment, you would not be able to prevent yourself from leading a life of evil? If that's the case, then I truly feel sorry for you. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 1 week ago
@RightouesPath2011 4/6. As I do not believe that there is any afterlife, either heaven or hell, I have no such expectations or restraints upon me, but that has never made me wish to sink to the levels of decadence that seem to obsess your mind and I can say from experience, the same applies to nearly all the atheists and agnostics I have met in my life.
Your obsession with sin says much more about you than any imaginary god.
I really think you need professional help. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 1 week ago
@RightouesPath2011 5/6. As for god's "morality"? I think Richard Dawkins sums it up very well:
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser, a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."
That about says it all. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 1 week ago
@RightouesPath2011 6/6. Luckily for the world, he doesn't exist and there is absolutely no evidence to say that he does, other than in that ultimate work of fiction, the bible.
Modern research has shown that nearly everything in the bible is just a collection of myths and legends invented by superstitious, uneducated goat herders, desperately trying to make sense of their world, of which they knew less than a modern day 12 yr old.
Would you let a 12 yr old run your life?
HonestMan395 1 week ago
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@HonestMan395
It's amazing how you glance over the fact, that laws are in place because people do bad things...it's fact.
-The power of sin is strong...your comments validate it. 1/6 comments you paint the picture of you as the "good guy" then proceed with comment 2/6, 3/6, 4/6, 5/6, 6/6. To attempt to dismantle, degrade, mock and belittle who you think I am. coming from a guy who claims "I've never knowingly hurt anyone and I try to help others whenever they need help."
RightouesPath2011 1 week ago
@HonestMan395
The laws are meant to bring you to repentance. To have some self revelation no matter how hard I try, I want to go back to doing ME and what i want, I don't care if what anybody else says.. That's all sin is our own will, before God's will.
-Mr. Dawkins..(well i guess now it's your understanding too)..of God is shallow and made with an unbelieving heart.
-when you get to that point, Jesus is all you need. He paid the cost and is always ready to forgive.
RightouesPath2011 1 week ago
@RightouesPath2011 Quote: "no matter how hard I try, I want to go back to doing ME and what i want, I don't care if what anybody else says.."
As I've said, that says more about the weakness of your character than the strength of your imaginary god and Dawkin's opinion of god is backed by the bible.
Quote: "Jesus is all you need. He paid the cost"
Even if he existed, which is in question, (nobody who met him, wrote about him in his own lifetime), exactly what cost did he pay?
HonestMan395 1 week ago
@HonestMan395
hmm your not understanding, i'm trying to explain human tendency..as you put it survival.
Is saying somthing doesn't exist your answer for everything...or just the things you don't want to think it's true because hmmm maybe it could shine on something you have hidden away? Jesus never existed? despite 2000 yrs of church history.... hey it's your choice not to believe..but there will come a day when every knee will bow and every toungue confess that Jesus is King.
RightouesPath2011 1 week ago
@HonestMan395
"Dawkin's opinion of god is backed by the bible"
Imagine living in slavery, like ur ancestors 400 yrs before you. All you know is evil customs of ur master, human sacrifice to pagan gods, sexual immorality and slavery..then all of a sudden it all ends and your free..do you think laws are going to be set in place? what do you think people will do if they disagree with the law? the old testament is a story of love and preperation..God fathering his children.
RightouesPath2011 1 week ago
@HonestMan395
The old testament, is the uncensored truth of the love and mercy of God on his chosen people no matter howmany time they rebelled. preparing them for the savior of the world that will come from the Jewish people.
Jesus Christ came not to condemn the world but to save the WORLD.that means you, me, AE staff. He displayed his love by sacrificing his life for us ALL. then rose on the 3rd day to let us know this life is not the end for us if we have faith.
RightouesPath2011 1 week ago
@RightouesPath2011 1/9. Sorry for the delay in replying, but life goes on outside of Youtube.
To answer your points. I understand you very well. It may well be a human tendency from your point of view, but it has not been my experience in life. However, as I've already said, that says more about your character and outlook on life that it does mine.
I can assure you, much as you would like to think it, I have nothing in my life "hidden away" as you call it. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 2 days ago
@RightouesPath2011 2/9. I didn't say Jesus never existed. I said god never existed and, other than in the bible, there is no evidence for his existence.
I have no problem with the idea that there may have been a preacher called Jesus around at the time. Jesus was a very common name. There were at least two High Priests of the time called Jesus and even Barabbas' first name is thought to have been Jesus, although he is most likely to have been a myth as well. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 2 days ago
@RightouesPath2011 3/9. However, There is no evidence that the Jesus of the bible was anything other than an ordinary, if charismatic, good man.
Even the bible itself proves the nativity could never have happened in the way that the bible says it did and as for Jesus life and miracles, they have been appropriated from a number of other ancient gods. His parables come from other writings from groups such as the Essenes, which predate Jesus by many years. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 2 days ago
@HonestMan395
Even though you don't believe that Jesus is the Son of God. The savior of the world!! That His sacrifice was for you and me.... doesn't mean He doesn't believe in you. He takes every word you say against Him...restlessly finds the door to your heart... to tell you I LOVE YOU STILL.
RightouesPath2011 1 day ago
@RightouesPath2011 4/9. Also, there were over 40 writers and philosophers that we know of, who were active at the time, but not one of them wrote about him during his supposed lifetime, even in passing. Don't you find that strange?
Jesus is supposed to have done many highly public demonstrations and performed miracles; speaking to massive crowds, healing the sick, raising the dead, walking on water, publicly tried by the Roman Governor himself, etc. etc. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 2 days ago
@RightouesPath2011 5/9. Surely all that public activity must have created some interest in what was, in reality, a highly controlled and regulated police state.
However, Other than the bible, there is no independent record of his life from the nativity to the Crucifixion.
As for the resurrection. That has been edited and added to since it was first written.
Mark's gospel is now accepted, by most biblical scholars, as the one that the other gospels were copied from. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 2 days ago
@RightouesPath2011 6/9. The original account of the resurrection in the earliest copies of Mark, such as the one in the Codex Sinaiticus, stops at chap.16. vs.8, with a "young man" informing Mary and other women that Jesus had arisen and instructing them to tell the disciples.
However, Ch.16 vs.8 specifically says that they told NO-ONE, and that's where the original story ends. There is no mention of anyone seeing Jesus at any time. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 2 days ago
@RightouesPath2011 7/9. The additional verses 9 -20 detailing Jesus’ many appearances to others were added much later, by the early church fathers, and embellished and incorporated into the other gospels, to give authenticity.
Also, when it comes to Jesus' supposed sacrifice on the cross, where was the sacrifice?
The bible says he knew it was going to happen and he knew that he would survive it and live in heaven. In no way could that be called a sacrifice. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 2 days ago
@HonestMan395
"The bible says he knew it was going to happen and he knew that he would survive it and live in heaven. In no way could that be called a sacrifice."
-This is the picture of Faith. His faith in God our Father, that He is going to do what He promises...without the evidence. Can you honestly say that your are willing to take that punishment... in the middle of the beating, in the middle of getting nails to your hand...tell youself I have no proof but I know I will be resurrected....
RightouesPath2011 1 day ago
@HonestMan395
In the middle of the whipping..to tell youself I'm doing this for the guy who is whipping me right now, for the murderers, the prostitutes, the sinners....All this... for the hope that they will live with me in heaven If they BELIEVE I did this for them...that they are worth it.
Do me a favor and read Matthew 13:14-15.Jesus explains exactly what He want to do for you...
Thank you for your reply, I hope we continue this conversation, You r more than welcome to comment on my channel
RightouesPath2011 1 day ago
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@HonestMan395
Do me a favor and read Matthew 13:14-15.Jesus explains exactly what He want to do for you... Despite how we percieve Jesus and His teachings.....HE STILL wants to heal YOU. What a wonderful savior..Praise the LORD!!!
Much love
RP
RightouesPath2011 1 day ago
@RightouesPath2011 8/9. You talk about the abolition of slavery as an example of god's goodness. Are you telling me that there was no law and order before the ten commandments and no pagan gods, sexual immorality and slavery after?
The bible itself tells the Israelites who they could take for slaves and this continued with Jesus himself, who gave advice on how to beat a slave. Luke 12:45-48.
Paul sent a runaway slave, the property of a Christian, back to his owner. Cont'd.
HonestMan395 2 days ago
@HonestMan395
"The bible itself tells the Israelites who they could take for slaves and this continued with Jesus himself, who gave advice on how to beat a slave. Luke 12:45-48." As I understand your thoughts from a skeptics view, let me share with you it meaning, I pray you understand. Luke 12 45-48 Jesus said repeatedly that He was leaving this world but would return in the future. To prepare the Kingdom for his followers. He promises rewards for those who have been faithful to Him(master)..
RightouesPath2011 1 day ago
@HonestMan395
..while Christians sometimes experience immediate and material rewards for our obedience to God, this is not always the case. If so we would be tempted to boast about our own achievements and only do good for what we get. relates the verse in (Mark 8:36). My heavenly rewards will accurately reflect what I have done here on earth... So Jesus told us how to live until he comes. We must watch for Him, work diligently, and obey his commands.
RightouesPath2011 1 day ago
@RightouesPath2011 9/9. Paul even gave instructions for slaves to obey their owners the same way they obey Christ. (Ephesians 6:5-9)
Neither Jesus nor Paul condemned slavery anywhere in the bible. Even when directly asked about it.
This is just a handful of the references to slavery in the bible, few condemning it unless it was applied to themselves.
You should read your bible more thoroughly.
If you want to believe, at least try to understand what it is you are believing.
HonestMan395 2 days ago
@HonestMan395
I'm glad that you advise me to read the bible more thorougly...which I do, with eyes to see and ears to hear...but i read it as a believer as opposed to a skeptic. Where you see "slave" as a chance to expose some harshness in the word of God.. (Ephisians 6), I encourage you to see a slave as an employee...another definition in the dictionary is a "Hard worker". continuing with Ephisians 9 such a contrast with the dominant understanding salvery, which is usually against someones..
RightouesPath2011 1 day ago
@HonestMan395
..will and treating them like nthing, or selling and trading of human beings...Ephesians 9 is the complete opposite..saying you must treat you slaves right, do not threaten them. because they both serve them same master in Heaven because does no choose favorites... think of it that in those time negative slavery was rampant!! now your hear something against the grain...a revolutionary way of thinking..lots of people rejected that because they wanted dominance over another person
RightouesPath2011 1 day ago
@HonestMan395
another thing I want you to think about, a slave being a hard worker. In those times it's not like you can go in to your local blacksmith and say can I have an are you hiring? can I have an application? it did not work that way.
RightouesPath2011 1 day ago
@HonestMan395
sorry..Ephisians 6:9
RightouesPath2011 1 day ago
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@chinopisces
I reject the concept of sin- well sir what is your definition of sin?
There is no such thing as a perfect life. That's absurd.- so by your own account, there are somethings in your life that your not proud of...am i correct? have you ever lied? or hurt someone feeling by the words you say? or get angry with those who strongly disagree with you? its eay to glance over ur choices when u reject the concept of doing anything wrong in the first place.
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
@RightouesPath2011
Stop thinking like Matt for a second.
Ok God is righteous and just..
Say your at a court of Law and being a witness to your best friend who got killed by a drunk driver. But this drunk driver tells the judge, "judge it was just one night Never had a drink in my life till now. i made a bad choice just this once. look at my record I give to charity, helps little kids and feed the homeless. That judge says ok 5 months probation...would you feel justice is served for your friend?
RightouesPath2011 2 weeks ago
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@TheGeneralCritic
-God did not create robots, He created humans and gave them free will.And no matter how hot and horrible I tell you hell is or how peaceful heaven is YOU STILL CHOOSE.
Is AE the source you get ur info? Say you want to buy a dodge truck and you want to get professional opinion, do you go to a mazda dealer? no you go to someone who put his trust in the dodge product. I'll share with you about God anytime just ask
Jesus is the way the truth and the life.
Much love
RP
RightouesPath2011 3 weeks ago
@lazerbeam134
Brother I have nothing to prove. I know God exist, because what He has done for me. You don't have to believe me, but that is my testimony.
-The Bible tells us exactly who God is. "if you seek him, you will find him" (Jeremiah 29:13) He awaits our discovery, God's face awaits our study. How do we seek the face of an invisible God? We read His letter. We read the Bible because "the Scriptures point to me!" (John 5:39). God bless Brother.
RightouesPath2011 3 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 You have everything to prove. Suppose I told you today that there was an Invisible Pink Unicorn or Flying Spaghetti Monster, and I produced a book with nice stories, poetry, and philosophical musings, and I told you this book makes me right. What would you say to me, as a reasonable man/woman? And I am not your brother. Just so we're clear. I am me, you are you.
lazerbeam134 3 months ago
@lazerbeam134
I'm not implying I'm right. I'm sharing testimony, wiether you believe me or not, is not of my control. If you choose to believe a spagetti monster and write about him then that your choice and your testimony.
- The Bible is the most incredible book ever written. No other book compares with it.
RightouesPath2011 3 months ago
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This is why you are not GOD... wrath, hate, and quarrels that divide people is what comes from ur understanding of The Almighty.
RightouesPath2011 5 months ago
@RightouesPath2011 brainwash idiot, go sing your cumbayas and waste your life you dumb ass slave
boricua316 3 months ago
@boricua316
Thank you for strengthening my faith in Jesus, may He find that door to your heart as has mine. God bless brother
RightouesPath2011 3 months ago
matt should be our atheist pope :D
managarm1349 5 months ago
@managarm1349 I agree, Matt the Atheist Pope. We should start a movement. All hail Matt, the inspired one.!!
darbone 5 months ago
IF THERE IS EVER A TIME TO USE YOUR BRAIN, THIS IS IT.
Thatmakessense356 7 months ago
@Thatmakessense356 being an atheist is like being unplugged from the matrix, yeah you see the real world, but you still know what's right, and you still fight for what's right. We are creating the wake in which our children and other will finally shut out this "God delusion"(Richard Dawkins), and wake up to reason, science, real beauty, and real happiness. Let us look forward to the future. sry Thatmakessense356, I felt like posting this as a reply to your comment, of which i agree.
Dacurath 7 months ago
Oh my gosh, I will sound horrible for this, but I would love you to have the time to debate every hardcore christian friend of mine, because, honestly, I know you could crush their egos!
MapleLMAO 7 months ago
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youneekk 8 months ago
The bulk of are Laws came from the Ten Commandments,right! Then there has to be a judge... The war criminals are off the hook scott free...Of course the ones that did'nt get lynched.. slaughtered tens of thousands,some cases whole families,and no divine judgment! Really?
flatop59 10 months ago
@flatop59 Life isn't fair (I learned that at about age 8 when I lost the spelling bee). Sometimes people get away with things. If you think their life of horrible actions, and being exiled from moral society isn't a punishment in it's own right, then you must be very confused. It's a nice thought to think everyone "get's it in the end", but that doesn't make it true or believable.
EdgePitSwing 9 months ago
Hahaha... I love Matt. He is absolutely hilarious.
Severe777 11 months ago
wow - i finally found evidence for god
You know all those priests who we hear about in all those church sex scandals - well they WERE listening to god. I mean lets face, their behavior IS in keeping with the 'character' of this god.
Thus we have proof god exists - Okay okay, I know - we have to modify the definition of god a bit to something like -> that god is essentially a mental illness.
GorgeGeorg 11 months ago 2
If god actually exists and he or she or it told me to kill or rape a 12 year old girl, I would tell god to go fuck yourself.
TearsOfWar1 1 year ago 2
Hey, I'd kill all Christians if Jesus told me to. Is that OK with you?
gupsphoo 1 year ago
i've been watching these videos for over an hour, and this video is the best. absolutely spot on. to me it's not interesting if god exists or not, it's about being as good a person as you can. sometimes i'm so happy that i was brought up in a secular state as sweden...
SebiSthlm 1 year ago
"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 22:28)"
ptica11 1 year ago
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(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.
tranceman22 1 year ago
If there is a god, he'll be spending eternity with a bunch of irrational and unquestioning morons . I don't even think a god could handle that.
OxiDemonik 1 year ago 36
@OxiDemonik Oh, that's good. I'm gonna rework that into a quip and whip it out in any chat about morals with theists.
Rough draft: "God is the most evil character ever and deserves the worst punishment ever. He's going to make himself spend eternity surrounded by Christians, but I'm not even sure *that's* bad enough!"
DuhIdiot1 8 months ago
@OxiDemonik What if that god was irrational and unquestioning?
therealfriday13th 7 months ago
@therealfriday13th How can an entity that is irrational generate a universe which is governed by rational processes and create beings capable of rational thinking? But you see it's a paradox, because only an irrational, unquestioning God could ever handle eternity with these kinds of people, or at least not foresee this situation occurring. Therefore Bible = FAIL, as it is proven through deductive reasoning to be the so ;D
OxiDemonik 7 months ago
@OxiDemonik Pretty much, yeah. But wouldn't a Christian argue here that God "works in mysterious ways", or that "what is irrational to us is rational to God", or some shiat like that?
therealfriday13th 7 months ago
@therealfriday13th No doubt, it is impossible to reason with any religious person, hence why there are so many of them that remain in today's world. I've used every argument in the book. Here's one, you actually have an extreme statistical predisposition to possess a particular belief system in conjunction with the region where you grow up. In other words, you are significantly more likely to go to hell if you are born and live in India (2% Christians) than the US (76% Christians).
OxiDemonik 7 months ago
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This show is stupid first because they are outrightly mocking God, the music is ridiculous.
chica0616 1 year ago
@chica0616 Evil deserves to be mocked.
alienlifeform11 1 year ago
85 people would rape a 12 year old girl because their deity told them to
akirosette 1 year ago
@akirosette i just disliked this show
that makes 86
fullypimpgangsterap 1 year ago
@fullypimpgangsterap
i bet u would enjoy raping 12 yr old just like ur motherfucking monster idiot god cheezus
ptica11 1 year ago
@fullypimpgangsterap you'd probably rape her then sell her if he told you to as well
javonne 1 year ago
The first and foremost requirement for being an atheist is having the ability to think for yourself.
gupsphoo 1 year ago
Do you respect the free will of others?
If yes then please answer the following question.
If you knew someone was going to rape someone and you could stop them, would you:
A) Stop them or
B) Sit there and watch, then later punish the rapist.
If you chose A, you picked the choice which people with a decent set of morals favor, and violated someone's free will.
If you chose B, you picked the choice that God, "The Ultimate Judge"'s favored and respected someone's free will. (You also blow. HARD!)
DestAeval 1 year ago 88
@DestAeval Yeah but in a sense the Christian view is C. She deserved it because she's not a Christian and chose her fate. I.E. hell, she sent herself there. I dont agree with this but you never hear a christian say somone in hell's punishement should cease.
MercuryRis 1 year ago
@MercuryRis
o.o?
That would mean bad things never happens to Christians (which contradicts reality), and the only thing that God would ever punish would be disbelief in him, as every bad thing to ever happen to people would only happen to non-Christians, which they rightfully deserved, meaning "no real evil was done".
But in the case that people do believe bad things are bad things, regardless of the victim's religion, God is suppose to judge the criminal correct?
He would choose B.
DestAeval 1 year ago
@DestAeval Ah but in various part of the Old Testament it's God's will to rape, pillage and kill. So it depends on whether the "criminal" is acting upon his own free will. Pharoah, for example, refused to free the Jews after Yahwah hardened his heart. I see your point, but I didnt realize you meant the rape victim was a Christian in your scenerio. Some sects say bad things are God's wrath, like Pat Robertson or Fred Phelps.
MercuryRis 1 year ago
@MercuryRis
Actually my scenario is directed to those who see bad things as bad things, regardless of the victim's beliefs.
Also, now that you mention about that Pharaoh incident, such was an example where the Christian god violated someone's free will, and did "evil" with it instead, so I guess it's not like their god can`t go with A (except that would be "against his nature".)
DestAeval 1 year ago
@DestAeval destaeval, this is beautiful, and sorry, but imma have to steal it for use in my arguments for now on =x...no worries though i dont make videos, they are only personal arguments...verrrrryyyy well done.
Delinexwow 1 year ago
@Delinexwow
lol, I'm honored to know that people think my posts are meaningful.
Also, it doesn't matter to me if you "steal" my argument.
DestAeval 1 year ago
@DestAeval
I disagree. Not with the fact that is the morally correct choice but that it violates free will. You could view it the other way and see it as protecting the free will of the rape victim.
angeltears87 1 year ago
@angeltears87
It's still considered violation of free will.
If I kill Person A to prevent A from killing B, I've still killed someone.
DestAeval 1 year ago
@DestAeval
I never said it wasn't
angeltears87 1 year ago
@angeltears87
o.o? Then I don't get where we disagree. x.x
DestAeval 1 year ago
@DestAeval
I don't believe we do, I was just bringing another element to the discussion
angeltears87 1 year ago
@DestAeval:
What happened to "C" ??
I mean, if it was Britney Spears, i might want to join in !!!
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 1 year ago
@DestAeval: A doesn't violate anyone's free will. It only constrains their action, not their choice.
gwprod1 1 year ago
@gwprod1
A choice is a mental decision. Action is physically carrying out that decision.
If I impede all of your actions, what sort of free-will is that? (Extreme example)
DestAeval 1 year ago
@DestAeval You forgot C
C: Watch her get raped and after make her marry the rapist.
From the bible. HAHA :/
asargentb 1 year ago 7
@DestAeval What if the "victim" was going to rape someone and God "stopped" them by allowing the rapist to rape them, causing the "victim" to know what it feels like. People always ask "why does God allow bad things to happen to "Innocent" people?" But when they hear that God destroyed entire cities..then they have the audacity to say "What kind of a God would do that!? He has anger issues". We've become so obsessed with telling God what to do,that we dont do what we have to do..Help each other.
TheRealKamikaze 9 months ago
@TheRealKamikaze
If that was the case for the victim, then I would say that this god is not only stupid, but evil.
Assuming you`re talking about an omnipotent and omniscient deity, that has got to be one of the stupidest ways of persuading someone to not do harm onto others.
I don`t believe one exists and waste no time attempting to discipline fictitious characters.
If one existed, I would label such an entity as evil to the highest degree.
DestAeval 9 months ago
@DestAeval "Evil" according to who? Politicians? Whoever put a price on medicine, knowledge,water, etc.? If you are a Good person, you will disprove your real enemy. P.s. You didnt say How he should stop a rapist.. Any suggestions?
TheRealKamikaze 9 months ago
@TheRealKamikaze
Evil according to the speaker, me. What I call evil is what I consider as evil.
As to how to stop a rapist that`d be easy were I omnipotent and omniscient.
There's many ways to do it, but the best way would be to not resolve this single issue, but to destroy all issues at its core. I would re-write how this existence functions. I would eliminate "harmful" concepts. Concepts such as evil, rape, etc... I would rewrite the world so that such concepts would/could/need not exist.
DestAeval 9 months ago
@DestAeval This is fun. kind of like an RPG. Ok. what if you had sons, and one was so spiteful against you (like most teenagers) that he not only thought he could do your job better, but Would do it as your total opposite? Thus creating rape, hate, lies, envy, pride, Etc. How would you handle him (and his followers). Keep in mind.. That you cant do it "Harmfuly".
TheRealKamikaze 9 months ago
@TheRealKamikaze
Assuming I am an omniscient and omnipotent being, I wouldn't have created troublesome offspring in the first place. XD
DestAeval 9 months ago
@DestAeval Someones always Got a bone to pick. One of your humans would most likely complain that you made life pleasant because you thought they were weak. Then, they would fly up to your kingdom (probably because you gave them the gift of flight) and demand that you provide them a challenge, but not before they rough you up a bit. ( ;
TheRealKamikaze 9 months ago
@TheRealKamikaze
Assuming I've already eliminated all "harmful" concepts, and still an omniscient and omnipotent entity, I thought I already killed concepts such as "weakness", "disapproval/dissatisfaction", etc...
Also the concepts such as "difficulty" wouldn't even exist, so they would've never asked for a non-existent thing called a "challenge".
DestAeval 9 months ago
@DestAeval Would they know what they were doing? When I was a child messing with my families things, I didnt know I was wrong. I had never been taught the concept before.I didnt learn about stealing until after I stole. Even if they did try to teach me, I still didnt understand. Thats why I did it. What would you do to keep humans from hurting each other or themselves?
TheRealKamikaze 9 months ago
@TheRealKamikaze
The concept of hurting each other does not exist. When I say I would kill concepts, I don't mean like wiping it off the dictionary, but rather, were reality like an RPG game, there would be no option to inflict harm.
The reality that I would create would be very unalike this one.
Concepts like "stealing" wouldn't even exist.
DestAeval 9 months ago
@DestAeval I think you beat the Game. It sounds like you understand. In order to save lives.. sometimes..You Gotta be a... Dictator. Thats why we have so many rules. I gotta ask you. Would you wipe your own mind of these consepts?
TheRealKamikaze 9 months ago
@TheRealKamikaze
As an omniscient/omnipotent entity, I need not force to keep people in line, as there is no need to do so.
Rules in this world exist for various reasons. Some frivolous, while others aren't.
As to whether I would wipe out negative concepts from my own mind or not, I dunno. Probably.
And I just lost the game. XD
DestAeval 9 months ago