Smoke and mirrors, mirrors and smoke, USGov has played on us a terrible joke.
As a matter of due process of law under the 14th and 5th Amendments, DEMAND Congress STOP the "States Secrets Doctrine" from allowing USGov to prohibit any production of relevant evidence & testimony from surfacing in courts and media (pentagon video footage), where redress is sought by victims of terrorism on US, its territories or occupied regions, irrespective of any subsequent confessions or guilty pleas made.
Physics dont lie. The plane doesnt fit the hole in the building. Where did the plane go? If it was a plane, why didnt the feds run around in NY and confiscate everyone's video cameras? There is NOT EVEN 1 video or picture of a plane anywhere near the Pentagon. People call conspiracy theorists retarded and stupid and tell us to look at the facts. Pretty ironic, right? I bet doing 535mph's morphed that 757 into the size of a missle, then it disappeared. Really? No parts on engine or anything?????
@Blahblobify I've seen small ass pieces, look at any other plane crash site and see the scattered debris, tail and engine parts, luggage...........and how did a plane that size make a hole that small? No one can answer that one. I'm just saying...a closed loop of lunacy? Come on. Are you saying the Government has never lied? What about Rumsfeld's 2.3 Trillion, conveniantly located where the "plane" blew up??
what the fuck you getting at? you saying it wasn't a plane? you saying it was a missile or something? which infact, NO missile thats exists could actually do what this done, FACT!!!!!
@Stu3100 the person who allegedly flew the plane into the pentagon could barely fly a 2 passenger propeller plane ( his flight instructor says it himself ), and the maneuver the 757 would have had to make to hit the pentagon as they say it did would be nearly impossible for even a experienced pilot, and how does a plane with a 125' wingspan make a 85' hole with no damage to either side? plus they have video of whatever hit the pentagon.. why wouldn't they release it if theres nothing to hide?
enlighten me with your wealth of knowledge, what did hit the Pentagon? Just that, 137 people seen a plane hit and NO-ONE seen anything different! So please, you seem to know more than eyewitnesses.
@Stu3100 i don't know what hit the pentagon. i wasn't there and i didn't see it. but looking at the facts it seems very illogical that it was hit with a boeing 757. and i'm going to trust facts over the words of eyewitnesses, but everyone has their opinion and i respect yours even though i don't agree with it. I just don't see why they wouldn't release footage of what hit it if they wanted to put our loony theories to rest. after all its one of the most surveillanced buildings in the world
steve paterson was one of only two witnesses that saw a smaller sized plane that day, yet truthers leave out the fact that near on 90 witnesses describe a large jet they saw that day, at least 12 eye witnesses actually saw it strike into the pentagon, dont believe me, do a simple google search before responding to this fact, you can be dumb but dont be dumb and lazy
Oh fuck this over 100 witnesses saw the jetliner crash into the Pentagon, many were close enough to ID it's markings as an American Airline plane. Parts of American Airlines Flight 77 were found all the fuck over the crash site, with American Airlines markings, plus bodies of passengers, plus flight data recorder.
But THIS cheesy video has you convinced something's shady?
You're just repeating some horseshit some other conspiritard told you without bothering to check and see if it's true. You are operating in a closed loop of lunacy.
Now i do think 9/11 was an inside job. but can someone please explain me this.
Lets say it was an inside job and the government did attack its own people, absolute basterds who ll fly planes into a building with lots of people. Than why would they use a rocket? they obviously wont care about 1 plane more or less if they dont care about all the people in the WTC etc. why would they risk being discovered by using a rocket?
@jstsomeone1 It wasn't an inside job. There is plenty of evidence an American Airlines 757 hit the Pentagon. Conspiracy theorists are grasping at straws.
When something going that fast hits an EXTREMELY heavily reinforced building like the Pentagon, do you honestly expect much the plane would remain intact? Mythbusters had something similar with a car going 300 mph. You couldn't even tell it was a car after all was said and done.
@MeanGene79 by the time the tail catches up to the nose it is no longer going 300 mph. that is why there are so many tail sections left at crash sites. none of 9/11 adds up to anything but lies and an inside job. bush is a traitor and should be treated as such.
@MeanGene79 the reality is that there is no evidence for a 757 at the pentagon. the reality is that there is no evidence for a 757 at shanksville, and the MAYOR of shanksville is on record as stating there was no plane there. the reality is that WTC 7 fell in freefrall and wasnt hit by a plane, had no raging fires as debunkers like to claim and is, again, on record, by the dozens of videos taken that day as having fires burning out. the reality is that 9/11 was an inside job.
@vengencefrom1979 If you think there's no evidence of a 757 at the Pentagon or fires at WTC 7, you simply haven't looked at all the evidence. As for the mayor of Shanksville, I highly doubt he was an expert in plane crashes. There are numerous examples, such as flight PSA 1771, which crashed and left only a crater and not much other evidence of a plane having crashed.
@MeanGene79 you should take a look at the so called 'raging fires' at wtc 7, i have plenty of vids showing that they were anything but raging. as for the pentagon, get real, there were no engines, no wings, no tail section, no fuselage, ergo no 757. big brother is lying.
@vengencefrom1979 Again, do you expect much to be intact after such a high speed impact? Like I said, there are other vids on YouTube which show that the Pentagon and Flight 93 scenarios are entirely plausible. If "big brother is lying" is your best answer, that's pretty sad. Look at the facts, not just what you want to believe.
@MeanGene79 look at the facts, look at the pics, look at the vids, there is no 757 at the pentagon, nor at shanksville, wtc 7 = freefall. 9/11 = inside job.
@vengencefrom1979 Your circular arguments are getting you nowhere. I'd probably be better off debating a wall, lol. Keep living in your little fantasy world while the rest of us enjoy real life. :)
@MeanGene79 i'm so circular that i vote to keep sending troops, i'd bet that sooner or later the war machine would choke on its own venom and eventually wouldnt get any recruits at all. 9/11 - inside job, wtc 7 - the SMOKING GUN! watch it some time, maybe you'll learn something.
@MeanGene79 everyone knows that debunkers are full of sh!t. we only toy with you because you are stupid. grow up and learn some real science instead of trying to play people all the time, morons, the lot of you.
@vengencefrom1979 Oh, please. Truthers are the ones who are stupid and full of shit. I should know, I used to be one. And I did learn real science. That's why I don't buy into this conspiracy.
@MeanGene79 lol, arent you debunkers tired of being toyed with yet? morons, actually believing that a building like wtc 7 could collapse because of fire and do it in freefall no less. everyone in the country knows 9/11 was an inside job, pretty soon, everyone in pakistan will know too. looks like another nam, hope we dont get another jfk (obama) but who knows? its a wait and see thing with the war machine.
@vengencefrom1979 , those people are simply retarded,they cannot accept reality,they are not mentally strong enough,i pity them in some ways,they are becoming the minority,they are also followers i found and wants to live a fantasy life in their fantasy world.fuck the goverment,fuck harper and obama
Answers:Plane@500mph is moving over 700 ft. per sec..The frame rate of these cameras is s-l-o-w enough to miss something moving that fast. No conventional missle moves parallel to the ground that is carrying a LARGE HE warhead. Plenty of survivors smelled jet fuel yet unburned.Kinetic energy would be sufficient to obliterate the airframe hitting granite.The plane experienced ground effect making it hard for the pilot to hit the ground thus flying parallel to the ground. DO THE MATH! Duh!!
Answers:Plane@500mph is moving over 700 ft. per sec..The frame rate of these cameras is s-l-o-w enough to miss something moving that fast. No conventional missle moves parallel to the ground that is carrying a LARGE HE warhead. Plenty of survivors smelled jet fuel yet unburned.Kinetic energy would be sufficient to obliterate the airframe hitting granite.The plane experienced ground effect making it hard for the pilot to hit the ground thus flying parallel to the ground. DO THE MATH! Duh!!
Gafa! What missle tracks parallel the ground with at least a 4000 pound HE warhead? (tick...tick...tick) times up! There aren't any stupid. There was enough kinetic energy from a aluminium plane hitting granit to pulverize it and melt it. The video theory? Security cams used to support conspiracy have a frame rate slower than christmas. the plane was moving at over 722 feet per sec. do the math!
9/11 launched the 'war on terror' which means on us. Welcome to a police state everybody. They knew an economic crisis was in the near future. They produced the crisis. Even a shortage in oil supply could trigger a downturn.So they prepared for the coming deluge. They are the minority.They are outnumbered. So they created an environment for a police state. Once they have us corralled in their Fema camps I wonder what they will do
They are starting to outlaw guns all across America. Its beginning
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THE GOVERMENT IS FOOLING YOU. 3 DAYS BEFORE 9/11, BUSH AND HIS SECRATARIES DEVISED A PLAN TO FOOL THE PEOPLE INTO BELIVEING TERRORIST'S ATTACKED THE UNITED STATE'S MAIN SOURCES OF PEOPLE. DICK CHEYNEY AND BUSH, 1 DAY BEFORE THE ATTACK, HAD USED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO AFFORD MILITARY PLANES TO CRASH INTO PUBLIC DOMAINED STRUCTURES, BUT HE DID IT REGAURDLESSLEY MINDING THE FACT HE WOULD GET MORE MONEY IF HE WAGED A WAR AGINST THE MIDDLE EAST, TO GET MORE OIL FROM TEHRE COUNTRY, ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!
@michaelsdhfsj You have literally no evidence to support this. Idiots like you disregard any fact or evidence of what really happened and just make up your own bullshit analogy with nothing to back it up but pure belief. People like you who are an insult to human intelligence.
@michaelsdhfsj Why would the government do that? not a stupid question im just trying to find out what really happened because there are loads of conspiracy theories.
the pentagon is the head of us security. with billion of dollars going to national defense, you think the pentagon would have some kind of missle defense system aimed to guard against enemey aircraft.
A U.S. fighter jet launched a missle to the Pentagon, or a bomb inside the pentagon was detonated. Long story short, the U.S. planned 911. You may be asking," how can the U.S. kill its own people". The truth is that the U.S. didn't mind sacrificing a few people in order to iniciate a war with the Middle East. They wanted to control the oil, and set up their own markets in Iraq and Afganistan.
I believe the conspiracy. I think the government doesn't want us to believe that in a time like this that our national defense like the Pentagon could be under attack. Our image of the Pentagon and what we associate with it is that its a safe place that cannot be attacked. Well, how would the nation feel if that were not true? Which is why I believe it was a cover-up. I don't think our government did this, but I think they tried to hide that we're not as invincible as we like to think.
k I'm 14 and I can shit a better argument then u guys. and no one better tell me that i don't remember anything cuz I was too young but I do. k there r 4 flights and don't say that there wasnt plane that attacked the pentagon. every one died on all the flights of course. so tell me smart ones that know oh so much about this (not saying I know more than any of u) where did the people and the plane go. did David Blane make the disappear. I believe that it was a small commercial jet, a small jet t
dude, why would the government attack their own building and a part that was being remolded, no plane because it exploded, cable spools (i tested this), for some reason, don't break easily, gas tanks explode, what happened to the fuel? IT EXPLODED, the small pieces are probably from the exploded plane, you don't need to know how to fly a plane to hijack it and crash it (just steer). think of all the lives lost that day.
@meow6371 You tested it huh? You know what you should do, post a video of this...Ooohh you don't have a video, so I guess that means you need to shut the fuck up....
i highly doubt that any of these civilians have ever been within a stones throw of a flying missile or plane so how would they know the sound difference? and whose to say that the terrorists didnt have bombs with them on the airplanes to make the explosions bigger and hotter? think people, the U.S is not out to get you
@MonkeyButt2005 Just those few pieces they found isnt even close to enough to be an air liner. Why were there much less debris? Other crashes have hundreds of pieces around the area. Where are the wing impacts on the side? All I see is one hole and no wing puncture. It was all a conspiracy...
they are hiding evidence because they are covering what really hit the pentagon! Its pretty sad they would keep shit like this from us! Just proves the government cant be trusted!
See the Aimed At America 1 video and discover why you cannot trust your pentagon controlled troops. When will all these parallels stop being coincidences??
people who have nothing to hide hide nothing why doesnt the government show the world exactly what hit the pentagon instead of just showing the flash.
anyone who has actually been inside the pentagon know that it is build like a fortress and very hard to get through the reason no one was able to see part is because all the pictures are at the top of the hill by the pentagon and inside the gate the lawn dips down so a lot wasnt seen and thin plane doing that fast cant make it though walls and walls of extremely hard stone and reinforcement
Fucking shit for brains retardo conspiracy theory nuts. Jesus fucking christ its like you people are proud of what gullible senseless tools you really are.
@9761scott Yeah. I'm so dumb for believing in things like science and evidence. Any academic who signs onto this retarded shit pretty much gets immediately ostracized and even removed from the insitution they are affiliated with. I guess we have to add scientific institutions to the vast array of hundreds of thousands of professionals who supposedly a part of your embarassingly stupid, yet remarkably paranoid and dark fantasy.
Gentlemen, Please remember that the only "successful" conspiracies and cover-ups have involved very few people. Do you honestly think that the hundreds of first responders and clean up people who would keep quiet over this? You can talk physics and structural theories all you want, but there are 100s of photos of wheel rims and plane engine debris, as well as, eye witness accounts of a commercial plane hitting the pentagon. Evidence and too many people involved for a 100% conspiracy. Sorry.
I'll settle this once and for all! There was no 747, 757, 7 anything 7 that crashed into the pentagon. Why? It's simple! Where was the molten metal that should have pooled underneath the pentagon after the plane crashed into it? Clearly this is what happens when planes crash into buildings. No, nothing like that happened at the pentagram.
@GeneralMaximus4 Because, you know, a huge plane designed to withstand extreme weather conditions just melts like chocolate. And there being a huge explosion and all, I´m sure there was molten metal anyway from the building itself. Did you even research your theory?
You should honor the dead by keeping quite & helping coverup for the criminal's. I think not!!!! If Bush wanted to find at least one of the real criminal's behind 9/11 all he had to do was look at his own reflection in the mirror!
Oh yeah, uh, it's easy to say there was no plane whne you show images from one vantage point and use quotes that use "LIKE a missle", "LIKE a high pitched squeal", "APPEARED to hold 8-12 people". Come on, no one can take this seriously. You also fail to show the light poles and large generator that were taken out/damaged due to the plane's wingspan. I can find 10 pics right now on Google to prove you wrong. Using certain info like "Loose Change" is manipulative and false. FAKE.
That's why your full of denial. This test by the US government of a jet plane crashing into a concrete wall will prove beyond all scientific doubt that a commercial airliner can not punch through three walls. End of story. This test was done at 500 mph. In case you didn't watch it, the wall won.
@Daddyo930 I've seen the video, and I'll raise you one. watch?v=aDRmJMcbWDs, go to 27.09. It's a long clip, but watch until 1.01. It proves my point, and includes your video that supports it. But if you're not willing to view my evidense, I guess we know what it means. It includes your three walls and how the landing gear was able to punch through the walls and make a hole at the other end. I suggest watching the whole video, it's quite something.
@TheFreshTrumpet You make that statement knowing full well of how the pentagon was constructed? Well, let me educate you because you obviously don't know. Besides 2 feet of reinforced concrete and five inches of limestone ablatement, kevlar ballistic shielding was added to prevent masonry from becoming shrapnel in the case of explosions. I watched the video. Your point is not made. Aluminum cannot destroy a reinforced concrete wall. Go somewhere else with that.
@Daddyo930 Aluminum that's almost 200,000 pounds with 10,000 gallons of oil traveling at 500 mph can definitely take a pounding on that wall. It can't go through three of them, but the landing gear (toughest part of a plane) can, which is what made that hole at the other end of the building. What do you think hit the pentagon in all honesty?
@TheFreshTrumpet You don't seem to understand physics. The test was conducted at 500 mph. Take all of the kinetic energy of a commercial airliner fully loaded and you still don't have enough to punch through three walls of the pentagon. Also, this line of thinking will only get you into more trouble because 500 mph is 434 knots. Boeing Flight Operations Review 757-27, 8th January 1999 says that speed is impossible for a commercial airliner. Structural failure at 330-370 knots.
@Daddyo930 If you look at almost every report, it states that it was impacted at 500 mph. Very unlikely for a large plane like that, but the speed got the job done. Not all walls were made with reenforced concrete, that was just the outter wall. The inner walls were weaker (lack of a better word). The landing gear was able to punch through till the end of the building. Now, I'll ask again, what do you think hit the pentagon?
That's why your full of it. Now if you can debunk this, I will be willing to listen to your scientific reasons why this video does not make sense to you. Good luck. Hope you know math.
@Daddyo930 I'm talkin to like 5 guys who have the same point of view as you. I'm sorry, I'm not watching a 50 minute video that didn't even get a thousand views. Say you win, idc. Unless you're willing to summarize it, I'm not wasting my time.
@TheFreshTrumpet The data supplied by FEMA, NORAD, NTSB and other sources used in computer simulations of the pentagon crash don't add up. The aircraft should have experienced structural failure well before it hit the pentagon. The video goes over the numbers from all sources and in some cases, there are conflicting numbers being supplied by the government. In any case, these numbers don't work in a simulator. Structural failure.
@resonance303 He wasn't experienced he had one lesson to fly a two person plane. That hole was to small for a 757. One surviver said there was no plane in the room. She walked out the hole. She said it was a bomb?
@resonance303 it will effect the whole world for the next century, everyone will know that the u.s. isnt to be trusted, unless bush is arrested for treason and war crimes.
Remember, always treat untrained eyewitnesses as subject matter experts. Because random people are intimately familiar with the various sounds different modes of aeronautical propulsion generate.
Also, they DID look behind the curtain in Oz, you dumbass.
From 9 11 research dot wt7 dot net you can view photographs of plane wreckage from inside the pentagon as well as bodies. I don't know how I stand on the issue, but does anyone care to reply with an opinion on this?
@kazoorocketman54 -- Human remains of the people onboard Flight 77 were identified at Dover, but there is no public evidence that places the bodies at the Pentagon crash site.
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The Pentagon was a ruse to take eyes from WTC events. No true evidence exists that a plane touched that building. If it vaporized how were bodies identified? That part of the building was recently under construction, correct? If nothing hit it how did it explode?
The explosion was from the inside out. A controlled charge was placed there to explode and reports of a plane would correlate with the WTC planes. Hence, no footage of any sort. The released film shows an outward blast.
@alwaysopen Reason being a ruse to take your eyes off of WTC is because they used Airborne Holographic projections with CGI and sound affects, technology that you aren't suppose to know about. These devils are very evil. Now the question to all of this is why did they do this? War is big money, so they invented a war. Sorry folk but what you see is not what's really happening. These people will pay for what they did, just not here though, they gotta go see The Big Man to get punishment.
In real life, one of the most secure and video taped buildings in the world would be able to produce an actual video (several probably) of the plane hitting it. I can almost guarantee that if I drove my car into the front of a Wal-Mart they would be able to produce several videos of me doing so for court. But that's too much common sense for the sheeple. All evidence points to an inside job.
136 witnesses saw a plane. 40 identified it as an American Airlines jet. 2 described a commuter jet. None described a missile. The quote about a cruise missile was taken out of context because the I saw the original interview and he first describes an American Airlines jet coming in "like a cruise missile with wings." Many pieces of wreckage were found. The quotes from ATC taken out of context because they also said "...military plane because a 757 would not be safe to fly in that manner."
Notice how none of these agents can agree that NIST should release theri data concerning the computer simulated collapse. AUTOCAD numbers can be manipulated and manipulations in AUTOCAD are easily detected. That's why NIST probably won't release the data for the computer simulation. Cant we all at least agree that NIST should release all data concerning the building collapses of 1, 2 and 7? Those who love freedom holla back.
In April of 2009 a peer-reviewed paper published in The Open Chemical Physics Journal reported the finding of unignited nano-engineered thermitic materials in multiple samples of World Trade Center dust. The discovery of these materials, is called evidence. What peer reviewed evidence do any of you agents out there have except name calling? NIST won't release their data. What so secret about data explaining how a building falls down? Anyone?
how does the conspiracy account for the fact that civilians and cops saw a plane moving low and toward the pentagon? if it did not strike the building where did it go? did this aircraft have a cloaking device or was it a hologram?
where are the passengers and crew of the plane? did the government take them out in a field and execute them? or did they pay them to start a new life in Indonesia? how can you account for the fact that they are GONE? what about the damage to stuff in the area?
Who's gone? You are assuming whatever hit the Pentagon was a plane with passengers in the first place.
That gives way to all of your other questions..and the never ending "witness" account of "seeing" a plane...well...Mike Walter stated he SAW the wings actually FOLD and ENTER the building..at 500mph????. Where exactly are the pieces from this flight stored? Iron Mountain supposedly....we have to keep this "evidence" away from all the bad people out there that will harm us.
Ignorant truthers doing NO research. First off, there was a 130 ft wide hole (from wing tip to wing tip) on the first floor. The windows at the Pentagon were 2 in, 2500 lb blast resistant glass which common sense would tell you that they wouldn't have been shattered unless directly impacted by the plane. Every eyewitness NEAR the impact zone described an American Airlines jet. Debris was found everywhere. Not one eyewitness has EVER reported seeing a missile.
@austinmoore97 In April of 2009 a peer-reviewed paper published in The Open Chemical Physics Journal reported the finding of unignited nano-engineered thermitic materials in multiple samples of World Trade Center dust. The discovery of these materials, is what we call in science, important evidence. Peer review is what scientist live for. Facts and evidence are what we need. NIST will not release their data on the collapse simulation or their reports on buildings 1,2 and 7. Why?
@Daddyo930 The bi-products of any thermite, nano or regular, were never found by ANY chemist, government or independent, at the World Trade Center site, making it impossible that these "chemical scientists" found anything close to thermite. And there's no need for a simulation. Any expert (not an "expert" funded by Loose Change) would tell you that they were surprised that WTC stood as long as it did.
@austinmoore97 If you believe in science and the scientific method then you should be on the side of every american who ask for the information regarding the building collapse data generated by NIST. Is there something wrong with asking for the information? Is it a secret? This is like the second time that NIST won't release the data regarding a building collapse. The first was Oklahoma City. That was also an inside job. Can you tell me why this data should be kept from the public?
@Daddyo930 There was no need for researching it because there is absolutely no evidence of any explosives what-so-ever being used. Nothing such as shock tube, det cords, bi-products etc. were ever found by anybody at the WTC site. And considering the fact that Alfred Murrah building didn't collapse, there was no need for it either. I'm pretty sure that 7,000 lbs bomb from hell was capable enough of doing what it did to that building.
@austinmoore97 So what your basically saying is that we should just take the government's word that the numbers they generated in the engineering report and the computer collapse simulation should kept secret? Are you serious? What country did you grow up in?
@Daddyo930 Why haven't truther 'engineers' released any number crunching or a legitimate simulation? It's because they realize that bombs wouldn't need to be used and would defeat their purpose in life. Go to any QUALIFIED (none of the 'engineers' in the truther movement have one year of engineer education at a college under their belt, look it up) engineer, tell them that bombs were needed after a 225 ton jet flew 500 mph in a building, they'll crunch the numbers, then laugh at you.
@austinmoore97 But you would agree that NIST should release therir data then? Is there any reason why data generated by a report on a building collapse should be kept secret? Just answer that because if NIST released the data then we would have something to talk about.
@Daddyo930 Like I said, NIST never investigated a demolition. They never generated anything due to the fact that no evidence of a demolition was found at the site and the building collapsed in a manor that didn't suggest any use of secondary help. Any engineer will tell you that they were surprised both towers stood for more than 10 minutes after impact due to practically 5 floors, trusses and all, missing with 300,000 tons baring down on top of a few support beams.
@austinmoore97 I am not talking about their non-investigation into explosive materials because they never tested for explosives. I am talking about the raw numbers data they used to generate their engineering reports and the data used for the AUTOCAD computer simulation. They won't release that specific data. Can you explain this or do you think that information should remain secret? That data could put a lot of issues to rest if other engineers could look at it.
225 ton 767 + 500 MPH impact + fire proofing blown off due to impact + 50 minutes of 1800+ fires + major structural damage + 300k tons of building baring down on the heavily weakened impact zone + initial collapse + 540k cubic feet of air in each floor pulverizing concrete and steel supports as the building collapses = collapse without needing explosives.
NIST would tell you the same thing, then laugh at you.
@austinmoore97 You obviously don't know what common sense is. Boeing does not design a commercial airliner with engines that are capable of 400 knots at sea level in level flight which is what the airspeed data in the 911 commission report says happened. Wind tunnel computer simulations will show that an airliner experiences structural failure between 330-375 knots at sea level. Those are facts and common sense.
@Daddyo930 The aircraft was cruising higher than that before it quickly descended 2 miles outside of New York. The thiner air at its cruising speed above allowed it to get to the nearly 500 mph it needed when it hit the WTC.
A few hundred miles per hour less still wouldn't have made a difference in the out come. Major structural damage would have still happened. Everything listed would have still happened.
@austinmoore97 What specific altitude are you talking about where the the air is "thinner"? Give me some numbers. Also don't forget that 500 mph = 434.4881209505 knots at sea level. Don't forget to add in air density and what you have is a total structural failure well before it can achieve 500 mph. Wind tunnel data and computer simulations have shown that the airframe would fail between 330-375 knots. Grow up will ya?
@Daddyo930 You never answered the other part of the equation bud. You are simply ignoring it because you know that it's right. A hundred miles per hour wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome damage wise to the structure. Hell, a lower speed would cause more damage inside. Just like how slow moving bullets are more deadly.
@austinmoore97 What other part of the question were you refering to? I told you that 500 mph was physically impossible for an airliner to achieve in level flight at sea level. What part of that do you not understand. If you had another specific point to make, please do.
@Daddyo930 225 ton 767 + 350 MPH impact + fire proofing blown off due to impact + 50 minutes of 1800+ fires + major structural damage + 300k tons of building baring down on the heavily weakened impact zone + initial collapse + 540k cubic feet of air in each floor pulverizing concrete and steel supports as the building collapses = collapse without needing explosives.
NIST would tell you the same thing, then laugh at you.
@Daddyo930 I guess we can assume by now that he doesn't have a specific point to make. Hilarious how agents are placed here to disrupt common sense and think people are actually numb and incapable of exercising critical thinking. All it takes is that we step out of the box and take a good long look at what has been presented as "evidence" in each occurrence of supposed terrorist acts more obvious in 911 events. What was disseminated in the Penn "crash" event is ridiculous to say the least.
Almost all coverups are blaming the usual suspects. That is the US government and...of course...the Jews. One would suspect that, if 911 was planned by the US government, the desinformation would point into multiple other directions. This was the case when the german BND, the ex GESTAPO assassinated Uwe Barschel, a well known german politician.The official investigation claimed suicide and for the truthers the mossad was blamed. No one ever dared to name the real murderers.
For those people who still think about the conspiracy is just a stupid theory; look for illuminati card game released in 1982 and the second version 1990s
Unfortunately for weak minds like yours, there are millions of unbiased human beings that cannot be distracted from correctly differentiating right from wrong, turning away from suppression of thought, thought distraction or any deviation using good 'ol common sense. Get a real job, Monkey.
The fast food place I work at has better quality security cameras than the pentagon? Wait a second, you're telling me that the CIA's security cameras are grossly pixelated and film at only 4 frames per second? Something smells fishy.
So I am a what?....a "DISIFO-AGENT"? (dis-info BTW)
Did you even stop to analyze that what I stated comes from your very own military, government and media?
Please...don't lower yourself to total embarrassment by getting your friends to suppress FACTS, not THEORIES like the BS you have been ordered to defend. But it's ok...I understand, you must obey and accomplish the task you have been given, even if it comes down to defending lies.............
@HeadLiceDurkalMonkee So, anyone who opposes the government-provided BS is a dis-info agent...Hmm, man, Is that the best crap you guys can come up with???????
Your agenda is clear as water....haven't you noticed that a higher number of human beings no longer believe the bullshit hired asses like yourself seed into the internet? Please, take your head out of your paid ASS.
In general, your reverse psychology arguments just have to get better Mr. Monkey Head...
Just Google search "stories by Bill Woollam"....and search the title on that blog titled 'Bogus Bin Laden Story on Canada's Election Day'
From veteran CIA officer Robert Baer, to former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, to former FBI head of counterterrorism Dale Watson, and former Deputy Assistant to US Secretary of State...all reported Bin Laden's died in December of 2001. The tapes coming later are all 'doctored'.
Smoke and mirrors, mirrors and smoke, USGov has played on us a terrible joke.
As a matter of due process of law under the 14th and 5th Amendments, DEMAND Congress STOP the "States Secrets Doctrine" from allowing USGov to prohibit any production of relevant evidence & testimony from surfacing in courts and media (pentagon video footage), where redress is sought by victims of terrorism on US, its territories or occupied regions, irrespective of any subsequent confessions or guilty pleas made.
dpetrano 3 days ago
at 4:53, they talk about sheraton employees watching the video in horror then the FBI confiscates it. so what did they see on the tape?
i would like to see an interview of those employees talking about what they saw?
7digitalSunday 3 weeks ago
the true answer is witnesses, there were people driving right next to the pentagon when a 'thing' hit, someone will have noticed it.
JuniorDragstarUK 3 weeks ago
Physics dont lie. The plane doesnt fit the hole in the building. Where did the plane go? If it was a plane, why didnt the feds run around in NY and confiscate everyone's video cameras? There is NOT EVEN 1 video or picture of a plane anywhere near the Pentagon. People call conspiracy theorists retarded and stupid and tell us to look at the facts. Pretty ironic, right? I bet doing 535mph's morphed that 757 into the size of a missle, then it disappeared. Really? No parts on engine or anything?????
drewlaplanche 1 month ago
@drewlaplanche
You are operating in a closed loop of lunacy, there are LOTS of photos of American Airlines plane parts in the wreckage.
Lots.
Blahblobify 1 month ago
@Blahblobify I've seen small ass pieces, look at any other plane crash site and see the scattered debris, tail and engine parts, luggage...........and how did a plane that size make a hole that small? No one can answer that one. I'm just saying...a closed loop of lunacy? Come on. Are you saying the Government has never lied? What about Rumsfeld's 2.3 Trillion, conveniantly located where the "plane" blew up??
drewlaplanche 4 weeks ago
How many eyewitnesses seen anything other than a plane hit the building? Zero, nil, no-one, yet 137 seen an aircraft hit it.
Now get a fuckin life conspiracy theorists.
Stu3100 1 month ago
@Stu3100 and ur channel is not available hehe ur being so secret :)
mrbest20 1 month ago
@Stu3100 dumb ass how bout the thousands of people who witness UFO, you gonna get on your knees and believe them witnesses like its gospel?
ACEENTERTAINMENT09 3 weeks ago
@ACEENTERTAINMENT09
what the fuck you getting at? you saying it wasn't a plane? you saying it was a missile or something? which infact, NO missile thats exists could actually do what this done, FACT!!!!!
Stu3100 3 weeks ago
@Stu3100 the person who allegedly flew the plane into the pentagon could barely fly a 2 passenger propeller plane ( his flight instructor says it himself ), and the maneuver the 757 would have had to make to hit the pentagon as they say it did would be nearly impossible for even a experienced pilot, and how does a plane with a 125' wingspan make a 85' hole with no damage to either side? plus they have video of whatever hit the pentagon.. why wouldn't they release it if theres nothing to hide?
NY10909 3 weeks ago
@NY10909
enlighten me with your wealth of knowledge, what did hit the Pentagon? Just that, 137 people seen a plane hit and NO-ONE seen anything different! So please, you seem to know more than eyewitnesses.
Stu3100 3 weeks ago
@Stu3100 i don't know what hit the pentagon. i wasn't there and i didn't see it. but looking at the facts it seems very illogical that it was hit with a boeing 757. and i'm going to trust facts over the words of eyewitnesses, but everyone has their opinion and i respect yours even though i don't agree with it. I just don't see why they wouldn't release footage of what hit it if they wanted to put our loony theories to rest. after all its one of the most surveillanced buildings in the world
NY10909 3 weeks ago
steve paterson was one of only two witnesses that saw a smaller sized plane that day, yet truthers leave out the fact that near on 90 witnesses describe a large jet they saw that day, at least 12 eye witnesses actually saw it strike into the pentagon, dont believe me, do a simple google search before responding to this fact, you can be dumb but dont be dumb and lazy
"YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH"
cottoniiijoe 1 month ago
This video has convinced me that their's something shady about the Pentagon incident. Congratulations.
Samonuh 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Samonuh
Oh fuck this over 100 witnesses saw the jetliner crash into the Pentagon, many were close enough to ID it's markings as an American Airline plane. Parts of American Airlines Flight 77 were found all the fuck over the crash site, with American Airlines markings, plus bodies of passengers, plus flight data recorder.
But THIS cheesy video has you convinced something's shady?
Blahblobify 1 month ago
@Blahblobify The impact hole was about 1/3 the width of a Boeing 757 not including the wings. Please, explain how that's physically possible...
Samonuh 1 month ago
@Samonuh
That's easily explained:
It's not true.
You're just repeating some horseshit some other conspiritard told you without bothering to check and see if it's true. You are operating in a closed loop of lunacy.
Blahblobify 1 month ago
Meangene79 .......something done about it?........
Done about what?
CameltoeJuice 1 month ago
@JuggaloCirqueDuFreak Get back to me when you start making sense.
MeanGene79 1 month ago
Now i do think 9/11 was an inside job. but can someone please explain me this.
Lets say it was an inside job and the government did attack its own people, absolute basterds who ll fly planes into a building with lots of people. Than why would they use a rocket? they obviously wont care about 1 plane more or less if they dont care about all the people in the WTC etc. why would they risk being discovered by using a rocket?
jstsomeone1 1 month ago
@jstsomeone1 It wasn't an inside job. There is plenty of evidence an American Airlines 757 hit the Pentagon. Conspiracy theorists are grasping at straws.
MeanGene79 1 month ago
backtracking to the death of JFK it is quite apparent that murderers infest the cia, the courts, d.c. and congress. too bad. tic toc.
vengencefrom1979 2 months ago
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did you know that hitler was catholic and was appointed chancellor in a country which was 90% christian?
did you know that nazis were behind the killing of JFK and their first order of business after he was dead was to escalate the war in vietnam?
did you know that george bush's grandpappy was a nazi?
along with henry ford too?
not to mention quite a few big businesses on wallstreet.
did you know that 9/11 was an inside job and george bush destroyed all the evidence?
vengencefrom1979 2 months ago
@joebo83 If that many people are gullible, that's sad.
MeanGene79 2 months ago
@joebo83 Common sense is beyond the grasp of truthers.
MeanGene79 2 months ago
When something going that fast hits an EXTREMELY heavily reinforced building like the Pentagon, do you honestly expect much the plane would remain intact? Mythbusters had something similar with a car going 300 mph. You couldn't even tell it was a car after all was said and done.
MeanGene79 2 months ago
@MeanGene79 by the time the tail catches up to the nose it is no longer going 300 mph. that is why there are so many tail sections left at crash sites. none of 9/11 adds up to anything but lies and an inside job. bush is a traitor and should be treated as such.
vengencefrom1979 2 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 Wow, conspiracy is that much better than reality is it?
MeanGene79 2 months ago
@MeanGene79 the reality is that there is no evidence for a 757 at the pentagon. the reality is that there is no evidence for a 757 at shanksville, and the MAYOR of shanksville is on record as stating there was no plane there. the reality is that WTC 7 fell in freefrall and wasnt hit by a plane, had no raging fires as debunkers like to claim and is, again, on record, by the dozens of videos taken that day as having fires burning out. the reality is that 9/11 was an inside job.
vengencefrom1979 2 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 If you think there's no evidence of a 757 at the Pentagon or fires at WTC 7, you simply haven't looked at all the evidence. As for the mayor of Shanksville, I highly doubt he was an expert in plane crashes. There are numerous examples, such as flight PSA 1771, which crashed and left only a crater and not much other evidence of a plane having crashed.
MeanGene79 2 months ago
@MeanGene79 you should take a look at the so called 'raging fires' at wtc 7, i have plenty of vids showing that they were anything but raging. as for the pentagon, get real, there were no engines, no wings, no tail section, no fuselage, ergo no 757. big brother is lying.
vengencefrom1979 2 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 Again, do you expect much to be intact after such a high speed impact? Like I said, there are other vids on YouTube which show that the Pentagon and Flight 93 scenarios are entirely plausible. If "big brother is lying" is your best answer, that's pretty sad. Look at the facts, not just what you want to believe.
MeanGene79 2 months ago
@MeanGene79 look at the facts, look at the pics, look at the vids, there is no 757 at the pentagon, nor at shanksville, wtc 7 = freefall. 9/11 = inside job.
vengencefrom1979 2 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 Your circular arguments are getting you nowhere. I'd probably be better off debating a wall, lol. Keep living in your little fantasy world while the rest of us enjoy real life. :)
MeanGene79 2 months ago
@MeanGene79 i'm so circular that i vote to keep sending troops, i'd bet that sooner or later the war machine would choke on its own venom and eventually wouldnt get any recruits at all. 9/11 - inside job, wtc 7 - the SMOKING GUN! watch it some time, maybe you'll learn something.
vengencefrom1979 2 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 seen it. Rubbish. Watch the videos I mentioned. Crashes with no planes in sight, just like the Pentagon and Flight 93.
MeanGene79 2 months ago
@MeanGene79 <<< debunkers, always wanting you to chase wild gooses.
vengencefrom1979 2 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 What the hell are you talking about????
MeanGene79 2 months ago
@MeanGene79 everyone here knows what i'm talking about except you.
vengencefrom1979 2 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 So showing similar examples is a wild goose chase? Only a truther would think that.
MeanGene79 2 months ago
@MeanGene79 everyone knows that debunkers are full of sh!t. we only toy with you because you are stupid. grow up and learn some real science instead of trying to play people all the time, morons, the lot of you.
vengencefrom1979 1 month ago
@vengencefrom1979 Oh, please. Truthers are the ones who are stupid and full of shit. I should know, I used to be one. And I did learn real science. That's why I don't buy into this conspiracy.
MeanGene79 1 month ago
@MeanGene79 lol, arent you debunkers tired of being toyed with yet? morons, actually believing that a building like wtc 7 could collapse because of fire and do it in freefall no less. everyone in the country knows 9/11 was an inside job, pretty soon, everyone in pakistan will know too. looks like another nam, hope we dont get another jfk (obama) but who knows? its a wait and see thing with the war machine.
vengencefrom1979 1 month ago 2
@vengencefrom1979 , those people are simply retarded,they cannot accept reality,they are not mentally strong enough,i pity them in some ways,they are becoming the minority,they are also followers i found and wants to live a fantasy life in their fantasy world.fuck the goverment,fuck harper and obama
wow14willywaller 1 month ago
@vengencefrom1979 If "everyone knew" it was an inside job, something would have been done by now.
MeanGene79 1 month ago
@vengencefrom1979 Re: Your bulletin post, yes there are hippies. But instead of being at Woodstock they're now called 'Occupiers'.
MeanGene79 1 month ago
the plane oobviously experienced ground effect look it up it explains why it could crash into the first floor and leave no damage on the lawn
jomasterjoe 3 months ago
The missile hit the pentagram (the truth can be hidden in plain sight when you think of the box as a circle).
usmcoth 3 months ago
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Answers:Plane@500mph is moving over 700 ft. per sec..The frame rate of these cameras is s-l-o-w enough to miss something moving that fast. No conventional missle moves parallel to the ground that is carrying a LARGE HE warhead. Plenty of survivors smelled jet fuel yet unburned.Kinetic energy would be sufficient to obliterate the airframe hitting granite.The plane experienced ground effect making it hard for the pilot to hit the ground thus flying parallel to the ground. DO THE MATH! Duh!!
navillus0427 4 months ago
Answers:Plane@500mph is moving over 700 ft. per sec..The frame rate of these cameras is s-l-o-w enough to miss something moving that fast. No conventional missle moves parallel to the ground that is carrying a LARGE HE warhead. Plenty of survivors smelled jet fuel yet unburned.Kinetic energy would be sufficient to obliterate the airframe hitting granite.The plane experienced ground effect making it hard for the pilot to hit the ground thus flying parallel to the ground. DO THE MATH! Duh!!
navillus0427 4 months ago
Gafa! What missle tracks parallel the ground with at least a 4000 pound HE warhead? (tick...tick...tick) times up! There aren't any stupid. There was enough kinetic energy from a aluminium plane hitting granit to pulverize it and melt it. The video theory? Security cams used to support conspiracy have a frame rate slower than christmas. the plane was moving at over 722 feet per sec. do the math!
kidshowsnet 4 months ago
9/11 launched the 'war on terror' which means on us. Welcome to a police state everybody. They knew an economic crisis was in the near future. They produced the crisis. Even a shortage in oil supply could trigger a downturn.So they prepared for the coming deluge. They are the minority.They are outnumbered. So they created an environment for a police state. Once they have us corralled in their Fema camps I wonder what they will do
They are starting to outlaw guns all across America. Its beginning
iankyoko 4 months ago
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megamogx 4 months ago
THE GOVERMENT IS FOOLING YOU. 3 DAYS BEFORE 9/11, BUSH AND HIS SECRATARIES DEVISED A PLAN TO FOOL THE PEOPLE INTO BELIVEING TERRORIST'S ATTACKED THE UNITED STATE'S MAIN SOURCES OF PEOPLE. DICK CHEYNEY AND BUSH, 1 DAY BEFORE THE ATTACK, HAD USED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO AFFORD MILITARY PLANES TO CRASH INTO PUBLIC DOMAINED STRUCTURES, BUT HE DID IT REGAURDLESSLEY MINDING THE FACT HE WOULD GET MORE MONEY IF HE WAGED A WAR AGINST THE MIDDLE EAST, TO GET MORE OIL FROM TEHRE COUNTRY, ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!
michaelsdhfsj 4 months ago
@michaelsdhfsj You have literally no evidence to support this. Idiots like you disregard any fact or evidence of what really happened and just make up your own bullshit analogy with nothing to back it up but pure belief. People like you who are an insult to human intelligence.
Dougolai 4 months ago
@michaelsdhfsj Why would the government do that? not a stupid question im just trying to find out what really happened because there are loads of conspiracy theories.
me4Russia 3 months ago
the pentagon is the head of us security. with billion of dollars going to national defense, you think the pentagon would have some kind of missle defense system aimed to guard against enemey aircraft.
thuglordbenzel 4 months ago
Solid fucking proof right there. our government is fucked up in the head... big time.
billykulitzlover 4 months ago
A U.S. fighter jet launched a missle to the Pentagon, or a bomb inside the pentagon was detonated. Long story short, the U.S. planned 911. You may be asking," how can the U.S. kill its own people". The truth is that the U.S. didn't mind sacrificing a few people in order to iniciate a war with the Middle East. They wanted to control the oil, and set up their own markets in Iraq and Afganistan.
LaCremaDeSammiSosa 4 months ago
I believe the conspiracy. I think the government doesn't want us to believe that in a time like this that our national defense like the Pentagon could be under attack. Our image of the Pentagon and what we associate with it is that its a safe place that cannot be attacked. Well, how would the nation feel if that were not true? Which is why I believe it was a cover-up. I don't think our government did this, but I think they tried to hide that we're not as invincible as we like to think.
Sammi300056 4 months ago
k I'm 14 and I can shit a better argument then u guys. and no one better tell me that i don't remember anything cuz I was too young but I do. k there r 4 flights and don't say that there wasnt plane that attacked the pentagon. every one died on all the flights of course. so tell me smart ones that know oh so much about this (not saying I know more than any of u) where did the people and the plane go. did David Blane make the disappear. I believe that it was a small commercial jet, a small jet t
atk51097 4 months ago
Proof of 757 plane debris at the Pentagon on 9/11: watch?v=YTNRkb7AaQk
EvanBHenry 4 months ago
Wow, you question the "official story". You must be really smart.
EvanBHenry 4 months ago
dude, why would the government attack their own building and a part that was being remolded, no plane because it exploded, cable spools (i tested this), for some reason, don't break easily, gas tanks explode, what happened to the fuel? IT EXPLODED, the small pieces are probably from the exploded plane, you don't need to know how to fly a plane to hijack it and crash it (just steer). think of all the lives lost that day.
meow6371 4 months ago
@meow6371 You tested it huh? You know what you should do, post a video of this...Ooohh you don't have a video, so I guess that means you need to shut the fuck up....
stick5391 4 months ago
i highly doubt that any of these civilians have ever been within a stones throw of a flying missile or plane so how would they know the sound difference? and whose to say that the terrorists didnt have bombs with them on the airplanes to make the explosions bigger and hotter? think people, the U.S is not out to get you
JakeJordan55 4 months ago
LOOKS LIKE A BLATANT LIE TO ME
pullara130 4 months ago
@MonkeyButt2005 Just those few pieces they found isnt even close to enough to be an air liner. Why were there much less debris? Other crashes have hundreds of pieces around the area. Where are the wing impacts on the side? All I see is one hole and no wing puncture. It was all a conspiracy...
coreyl456 4 months ago
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megamogx 4 months ago in playlist fishy 911
great video! There wasn't a plane, no evidence, why did this happen huh? As for the twin towers??? weird
jma111000 4 months ago
oh god your stupid
irJonneh 4 months ago
Really looks like a cruise missile. Payback from the Chinese maybe?
sprtplt 4 months ago
where are the tapes dont tell me they werent on that one day that is bullshit its the pentagon it was taped!
iampotts02 4 months ago
they are hiding evidence because they are covering what really hit the pentagon! Its pretty sad they would keep shit like this from us! Just proves the government cant be trusted!
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vincent15641 4 months ago
people who have nothing to hide hide nothing why doesnt the government show the world exactly what hit the pentagon instead of just showing the flash.
MsDichotomy 4 months ago
hate reading a video. boooo.
jamesgambino 5 months ago
Hey ...if 9/11 describes the september 11'th massacre...why police number is 911 ?
TheArcanez 5 months ago
anyone who has actually been inside the pentagon know that it is build like a fortress and very hard to get through the reason no one was able to see part is because all the pictures are at the top of the hill by the pentagon and inside the gate the lawn dips down so a lot wasnt seen and thin plane doing that fast cant make it though walls and walls of extremely hard stone and reinforcement
oldvoljin 5 months ago
Fucking shit for brains retardo conspiracy theory nuts. Jesus fucking christ its like you people are proud of what gullible senseless tools you really are.
SammyHales 5 months ago
@SammyHales , you are a true fuckwit
9761scott 5 months ago
@9761scott Yeah. I'm so dumb for believing in things like science and evidence. Any academic who signs onto this retarded shit pretty much gets immediately ostracized and even removed from the insitution they are affiliated with. I guess we have to add scientific institutions to the vast array of hundreds of thousands of professionals who supposedly a part of your embarassingly stupid, yet remarkably paranoid and dark fantasy.
SammyHales 5 months ago
Ignore the evidence all you want sheeple. The truth will come out one day.
joecane6340 5 months ago
The work of the the Godless;
the Zionist, Fascist, Papal New World Order.
Think not? Think Arabs? Then you are a liar,
so God will forget you, the Devil will take you, eternal.
theetrue 5 months ago
149 people are blind physically and or mentally
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago in playlist File#5 The truth of all 911 attacks
Because regular people know what missiles sound like....
Awesomechild96 5 months ago
Gentlemen, Please remember that the only "successful" conspiracies and cover-ups have involved very few people. Do you honestly think that the hundreds of first responders and clean up people who would keep quiet over this? You can talk physics and structural theories all you want, but there are 100s of photos of wheel rims and plane engine debris, as well as, eye witness accounts of a commercial plane hitting the pentagon. Evidence and too many people involved for a 100% conspiracy. Sorry.
guoibme 6 months ago
there are 148 people that don't like this.. what happened to the sound ?
xadam2dudex 6 months ago
I'll settle this once and for all! There was no 747, 757, 7 anything 7 that crashed into the pentagon. Why? It's simple! Where was the molten metal that should have pooled underneath the pentagon after the plane crashed into it? Clearly this is what happens when planes crash into buildings. No, nothing like that happened at the pentagram.
GeneralMaximus4 6 months ago
@GeneralMaximus4 Because, you know, a huge plane designed to withstand extreme weather conditions just melts like chocolate. And there being a huge explosion and all, I´m sure there was molten metal anyway from the building itself. Did you even research your theory?
Exemplariful 5 months ago
All 64 people on board the aircraft, including the hijackers, were killed, as were 125 people in the building. That's all i need to say about that.
delacruz28 6 months ago
@killuminati1871...@thehoodlum1919...You both are so right...Peace to you peoples
Beowulfsonur 6 months ago
@ogilviecj..Thanks for the video. Peace
Beowulfsonur 6 months ago
You should honor the dead by keeping quite & helping coverup for the criminal's. I think not!!!! If Bush wanted to find at least one of the real criminal's behind 9/11 all he had to do was look at his own reflection in the mirror!
Beowulfsonur 6 months ago
Oh yeah, uh, it's easy to say there was no plane whne you show images from one vantage point and use quotes that use "LIKE a missle", "LIKE a high pitched squeal", "APPEARED to hold 8-12 people". Come on, no one can take this seriously. You also fail to show the light poles and large generator that were taken out/damaged due to the plane's wingspan. I can find 10 pics right now on Google to prove you wrong. Using certain info like "Loose Change" is manipulative and false. FAKE.
TheFreshTrumpet 6 months ago
@TheFreshTrumpet watch?v=HCoFLby5x8Y
That's why your full of denial. This test by the US government of a jet plane crashing into a concrete wall will prove beyond all scientific doubt that a commercial airliner can not punch through three walls. End of story. This test was done at 500 mph. In case you didn't watch it, the wall won.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 I've seen the video, and I'll raise you one. watch?v=aDRmJMcbWDs, go to 27.09. It's a long clip, but watch until 1.01. It proves my point, and includes your video that supports it. But if you're not willing to view my evidense, I guess we know what it means. It includes your three walls and how the landing gear was able to punch through the walls and make a hole at the other end. I suggest watching the whole video, it's quite something.
TheFreshTrumpet 6 months ago
@TheFreshTrumpet You make that statement knowing full well of how the pentagon was constructed? Well, let me educate you because you obviously don't know. Besides 2 feet of reinforced concrete and five inches of limestone ablatement, kevlar ballistic shielding was added to prevent masonry from becoming shrapnel in the case of explosions. I watched the video. Your point is not made. Aluminum cannot destroy a reinforced concrete wall. Go somewhere else with that.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 Aluminum that's almost 200,000 pounds with 10,000 gallons of oil traveling at 500 mph can definitely take a pounding on that wall. It can't go through three of them, but the landing gear (toughest part of a plane) can, which is what made that hole at the other end of the building. What do you think hit the pentagon in all honesty?
TheFreshTrumpet 6 months ago
@TheFreshTrumpet You don't seem to understand physics. The test was conducted at 500 mph. Take all of the kinetic energy of a commercial airliner fully loaded and you still don't have enough to punch through three walls of the pentagon. Also, this line of thinking will only get you into more trouble because 500 mph is 434 knots. Boeing Flight Operations Review 757-27, 8th January 1999 says that speed is impossible for a commercial airliner. Structural failure at 330-370 knots.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 If you look at almost every report, it states that it was impacted at 500 mph. Very unlikely for a large plane like that, but the speed got the job done. Not all walls were made with reenforced concrete, that was just the outter wall. The inner walls were weaker (lack of a better word). The landing gear was able to punch through till the end of the building. Now, I'll ask again, what do you think hit the pentagon?
TheFreshTrumpet 6 months ago
@TheFreshTrumpet watch?v=JcXPbKkf5h8
That's why your full of it. Now if you can debunk this, I will be willing to listen to your scientific reasons why this video does not make sense to you. Good luck. Hope you know math.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 I'm talkin to like 5 guys who have the same point of view as you. I'm sorry, I'm not watching a 50 minute video that didn't even get a thousand views. Say you win, idc. Unless you're willing to summarize it, I'm not wasting my time.
TheFreshTrumpet 6 months ago
@TheFreshTrumpet The data supplied by FEMA, NORAD, NTSB and other sources used in computer simulations of the pentagon crash don't add up. The aircraft should have experienced structural failure well before it hit the pentagon. The video goes over the numbers from all sources and in some cases, there are conflicting numbers being supplied by the government. In any case, these numbers don't work in a simulator. Structural failure.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 Ok, I'll take your word on it since I'm not seeing the video.
TheFreshTrumpet 6 months ago
@TheFreshTrumpet Welcome to the revolution.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@Daddyo930 Peace
TheFreshTrumpet 6 months ago
@TheFreshTrumpet Back at ya son.
Daddyo930 6 months ago
@TheFreshTrumpet : a missile.
conspiracyMAN23 6 months ago
the ''easiest''path 4the plane was 2dive at the side
where Rumsfelts office was based,but this inexperienced
''pilot'' mannaged 2make a 270dgrs turn,flew inches above the ground
without even touching the lawn&while the plane was about 60%
of the hight of the building, he only hit 2floors&vapourized the airplane
& every experienced pilot told it was highly impossible
& the peeps with questions are the nutcases? :)))
it would be hilarious if it wouldnt still affect the whole world 10y after
resonance303 6 months ago 12
@resonance303 He wasn't experienced he had one lesson to fly a two person plane. That hole was to small for a 757. One surviver said there was no plane in the room. She walked out the hole. She said it was a bomb?
HarisRyalls 4 months ago
@resonance303 it will effect the whole world for the next century, everyone will know that the u.s. isnt to be trusted, unless bush is arrested for treason and war crimes.
vengencefrom1979 2 months ago
Anyone who believes this shit is clueless.
grosshhit 6 months ago
@grosshhit You're the first guy the man was talking about in the video. Close-minded fuck
dubcgoalie15 2 months ago
Remember, always treat untrained eyewitnesses as subject matter experts. Because random people are intimately familiar with the various sounds different modes of aeronautical propulsion generate.
Also, they DID look behind the curtain in Oz, you dumbass.
Tyrnell 6 months ago
From 9 11 research dot wt7 dot net you can view photographs of plane wreckage from inside the pentagon as well as bodies. I don't know how I stand on the issue, but does anyone care to reply with an opinion on this?
kazoorocketman54 7 months ago
@kazoorocketman54 -- Human remains of the people onboard Flight 77 were identified at Dover, but there is no public evidence that places the bodies at the Pentagon crash site.
kbspapa 7 months ago
@kazoorocketman54 - From the WEB site---"Government claims to have identified the remains of Flight 77 are (unverifiable)." --
"Evidence of the WTC Attack Suppressed by Authorities"
"Destroyed WTC Evidence"
"A King's Ransom in Precious Metals Seems to Have Disappeared"
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sanianikon 7 months ago
Proof ? You decide.
1- Planes hit WTC 1&2 and leave FULL imprint on buildings.
2- Plane hits Pentagon? NO IMPRINT of wings or engines! -Those engines weigh about 6 tons EACH traveling @500+Mph. AND NO IMPRINT?
3 - Over 80 cameras on the Pentagon--ONLY 5 frames released !
4 - Little impact damage on Pentagon compared to WTC.
5 - Massive fire ball @ 1&2- Small fire ball @ Pentagon.
More?--- 911truth dot org
kbspapa 7 months ago
google images, search for "american airlines global hawk" and u will see a possible answer.
MrDuspaghi 7 months ago
maybe the missile was disguised as an air craft and the disguises were made of fibre glass
bombblastic1 7 months ago
@MrJeggus Um, will the Noob please stop talking? Or should I say Goob? Maybe Goobnoob, or perhaps Goobtard is more appropriate. All those in favor of Goobtard say aye, all those opposed...the ayes have it. You are Mr. Goobtard.
genogeno1234 7 months ago
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So to sum up on the truthers vs shills debate, one side now has 1000s of architects, engineers, actors, sportsmen, politicians, and millions of citizens, as well as the laws of physics, common sense, and what their eyes and ears tell them....the other side is a few abusive people who exist only on the internet, with several usernames, whose only answers to normal questions about 9/11 are filled with 'twooftard, asstard, lol, lmfao, twoofie' etc etc, geeeee i wonder which side is most believable?
wellifthemediasaysit 7 months ago
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tayoprick 7 months ago
@MrJeggus Noob, I will not be ordered about like your butler. Do your own research. My job is not to educate noobs, goobs, and social rejects.
genogeno1234 7 months ago
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BeyondCWC 7 months ago
The Pentagon was a ruse to take eyes from WTC events. No true evidence exists that a plane touched that building. If it vaporized how were bodies identified? That part of the building was recently under construction, correct? If nothing hit it how did it explode?
The explosion was from the inside out. A controlled charge was placed there to explode and reports of a plane would correlate with the WTC planes. Hence, no footage of any sort. The released film shows an outward blast.
Strange?
alwaysopen 7 months ago
@alwaysopen Reason being a ruse to take your eyes off of WTC is because they used Airborne Holographic projections with CGI and sound affects, technology that you aren't suppose to know about. These devils are very evil. Now the question to all of this is why did they do this? War is big money, so they invented a war. Sorry folk but what you see is not what's really happening. These people will pay for what they did, just not here though, they gotta go see The Big Man to get punishment.
mbtrader67 7 months ago
In real life, one of the most secure and video taped buildings in the world would be able to produce an actual video (several probably) of the plane hitting it. I can almost guarantee that if I drove my car into the front of a Wal-Mart they would be able to produce several videos of me doing so for court. But that's too much common sense for the sheeple. All evidence points to an inside job.
sheeplehelper 7 months ago
@sheeplehelper
Any bank in the USA will have footage of you standing in line and picking your nose if they needed it.
I would be recorded pissing in a Walgreen's parking lot at 2am in the morning.
Why is there no film of a huge ass airliner slamming the Pentagon??
It doesn't exist.
No one wants to admit it. As in Oz, they ignore the man behind the curtain .
alwaysopen 7 months ago
Read Operation Northwoods, documents are public online or in Ventura's new book. Describes 9/11 to a tee.
BamaKattt 7 months ago
136 witnesses saw a plane. 40 identified it as an American Airlines jet. 2 described a commuter jet. None described a missile. The quote about a cruise missile was taken out of context because the I saw the original interview and he first describes an American Airlines jet coming in "like a cruise missile with wings." Many pieces of wreckage were found. The quotes from ATC taken out of context because they also said "...military plane because a 757 would not be safe to fly in that manner."
genogeno1234 7 months ago
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@genogeno1234 The US government paid those people!
JakeLapham96 7 months ago
Notice how none of these agents can agree that NIST should release theri data concerning the computer simulated collapse. AUTOCAD numbers can be manipulated and manipulations in AUTOCAD are easily detected. That's why NIST probably won't release the data for the computer simulation. Cant we all at least agree that NIST should release all data concerning the building collapses of 1, 2 and 7? Those who love freedom holla back.
Daddyo930 8 months ago
In April of 2009 a peer-reviewed paper published in The Open Chemical Physics Journal reported the finding of unignited nano-engineered thermitic materials in multiple samples of World Trade Center dust. The discovery of these materials, is called evidence. What peer reviewed evidence do any of you agents out there have except name calling? NIST won't release their data. What so secret about data explaining how a building falls down? Anyone?
Daddyo930 8 months ago
how does the conspiracy account for the fact that civilians and cops saw a plane moving low and toward the pentagon? if it did not strike the building where did it go? did this aircraft have a cloaking device or was it a hologram?
where are the passengers and crew of the plane? did the government take them out in a field and execute them? or did they pay them to start a new life in Indonesia? how can you account for the fact that they are GONE? what about the damage to stuff in the area?
TheZachish 8 months ago
@TheZachish
Who's gone? You are assuming whatever hit the Pentagon was a plane with passengers in the first place.
That gives way to all of your other questions..and the never ending "witness" account of "seeing" a plane...well...Mike Walter stated he SAW the wings actually FOLD and ENTER the building..at 500mph????. Where exactly are the pieces from this flight stored? Iron Mountain supposedly....we have to keep this "evidence" away from all the bad people out there that will harm us.
LVEbonys 8 months ago
Ignorant truthers doing NO research. First off, there was a 130 ft wide hole (from wing tip to wing tip) on the first floor. The windows at the Pentagon were 2 in, 2500 lb blast resistant glass which common sense would tell you that they wouldn't have been shattered unless directly impacted by the plane. Every eyewitness NEAR the impact zone described an American Airlines jet. Debris was found everywhere. Not one eyewitness has EVER reported seeing a missile.
Case closed twooooooofers.
austinmoore97 8 months ago
@austinmoore97 In April of 2009 a peer-reviewed paper published in The Open Chemical Physics Journal reported the finding of unignited nano-engineered thermitic materials in multiple samples of World Trade Center dust. The discovery of these materials, is what we call in science, important evidence. Peer review is what scientist live for. Facts and evidence are what we need. NIST will not release their data on the collapse simulation or their reports on buildings 1,2 and 7. Why?
Daddyo930 8 months ago
@Daddyo930 The bi-products of any thermite, nano or regular, were never found by ANY chemist, government or independent, at the World Trade Center site, making it impossible that these "chemical scientists" found anything close to thermite. And there's no need for a simulation. Any expert (not an "expert" funded by Loose Change) would tell you that they were surprised that WTC stood as long as it did.
austinmoore97 8 months ago
@austinmoore97 If you believe in science and the scientific method then you should be on the side of every american who ask for the information regarding the building collapse data generated by NIST. Is there something wrong with asking for the information? Is it a secret? This is like the second time that NIST won't release the data regarding a building collapse. The first was Oklahoma City. That was also an inside job. Can you tell me why this data should be kept from the public?
Daddyo930 8 months ago
@Daddyo930 There was no need for researching it because there is absolutely no evidence of any explosives what-so-ever being used. Nothing such as shock tube, det cords, bi-products etc. were ever found by anybody at the WTC site. And considering the fact that Alfred Murrah building didn't collapse, there was no need for it either. I'm pretty sure that 7,000 lbs bomb from hell was capable enough of doing what it did to that building.
austinmoore97 8 months ago
@austinmoore97 So what your basically saying is that we should just take the government's word that the numbers they generated in the engineering report and the computer collapse simulation should kept secret? Are you serious? What country did you grow up in?
Daddyo930 8 months ago
@Daddyo930 Why haven't truther 'engineers' released any number crunching or a legitimate simulation? It's because they realize that bombs wouldn't need to be used and would defeat their purpose in life. Go to any QUALIFIED (none of the 'engineers' in the truther movement have one year of engineer education at a college under their belt, look it up) engineer, tell them that bombs were needed after a 225 ton jet flew 500 mph in a building, they'll crunch the numbers, then laugh at you.
austinmoore97 8 months ago
@austinmoore97 But you would agree that NIST should release therir data then? Is there any reason why data generated by a report on a building collapse should be kept secret? Just answer that because if NIST released the data then we would have something to talk about.
Daddyo930 8 months ago
@Daddyo930 Like I said, NIST never investigated a demolition. They never generated anything due to the fact that no evidence of a demolition was found at the site and the building collapsed in a manor that didn't suggest any use of secondary help. Any engineer will tell you that they were surprised both towers stood for more than 10 minutes after impact due to practically 5 floors, trusses and all, missing with 300,000 tons baring down on top of a few support beams.
austinmoore97 8 months ago
@austinmoore97 I am not talking about their non-investigation into explosive materials because they never tested for explosives. I am talking about the raw numbers data they used to generate their engineering reports and the data used for the AUTOCAD computer simulation. They won't release that specific data. Can you explain this or do you think that information should remain secret? That data could put a lot of issues to rest if other engineers could look at it.
Daddyo930 8 months ago
@Daddyo930 Let's use common sense
225 ton 767 + 500 MPH impact + fire proofing blown off due to impact + 50 minutes of 1800+ fires + major structural damage + 300k tons of building baring down on the heavily weakened impact zone + initial collapse + 540k cubic feet of air in each floor pulverizing concrete and steel supports as the building collapses = collapse without needing explosives.
NIST would tell you the same thing, then laugh at you.
austinmoore97 8 months ago
@austinmoore97 You obviously don't know what common sense is. Boeing does not design a commercial airliner with engines that are capable of 400 knots at sea level in level flight which is what the airspeed data in the 911 commission report says happened. Wind tunnel computer simulations will show that an airliner experiences structural failure between 330-375 knots at sea level. Those are facts and common sense.
Daddyo930 8 months ago
@Daddyo930 The aircraft was cruising higher than that before it quickly descended 2 miles outside of New York. The thiner air at its cruising speed above allowed it to get to the nearly 500 mph it needed when it hit the WTC.
A few hundred miles per hour less still wouldn't have made a difference in the out come. Major structural damage would have still happened. Everything listed would have still happened.
austinmoore97 8 months ago
@austinmoore97 What specific altitude are you talking about where the the air is "thinner"? Give me some numbers. Also don't forget that 500 mph = 434.4881209505 knots at sea level. Don't forget to add in air density and what you have is a total structural failure well before it can achieve 500 mph. Wind tunnel data and computer simulations have shown that the airframe would fail between 330-375 knots. Grow up will ya?
Daddyo930 8 months ago
@Daddyo930 You never answered the other part of the equation bud. You are simply ignoring it because you know that it's right. A hundred miles per hour wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome damage wise to the structure. Hell, a lower speed would cause more damage inside. Just like how slow moving bullets are more deadly.
austinmoore97 8 months ago
@austinmoore97 What other part of the question were you refering to? I told you that 500 mph was physically impossible for an airliner to achieve in level flight at sea level. What part of that do you not understand. If you had another specific point to make, please do.
Daddyo930 8 months ago
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@Daddyo930 225 ton 767 + 350 MPH impact + fire proofing blown off due to impact + 50 minutes of 1800+ fires + major structural damage + 300k tons of building baring down on the heavily weakened impact zone + initial collapse + 540k cubic feet of air in each floor pulverizing concrete and steel supports as the building collapses = collapse without needing explosives.
NIST would tell you the same thing, then laugh at you.
austinmoore97 8 months ago
@Daddyo930 I guess we can assume by now that he doesn't have a specific point to make. Hilarious how agents are placed here to disrupt common sense and think people are actually numb and incapable of exercising critical thinking. All it takes is that we step out of the box and take a good long look at what has been presented as "evidence" in each occurrence of supposed terrorist acts more obvious in 911 events. What was disseminated in the Penn "crash" event is ridiculous to say the least.
LVEbonys 8 months ago
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Almost all coverups are blaming the usual suspects. That is the US government and...of course...the Jews. One would suspect that, if 911 was planned by the US government, the desinformation would point into multiple other directions. This was the case when the german BND, the ex GESTAPO assassinated Uwe Barschel, a well known german politician.The official investigation claimed suicide and for the truthers the mossad was blamed. No one ever dared to name the real murderers.
See my channel.
wwwtotalitaerde 8 months ago
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For those people who still think about the conspiracy is just a stupid theory; look for illuminati card game released in 1982 and the second version 1990s
TheChosenPR 8 months ago
@HeadLiceDurkalMonkee
Typical.....
When all else fails, start the name calling....
Unfortunately for weak minds like yours, there are millions of unbiased human beings that cannot be distracted from correctly differentiating right from wrong, turning away from suppression of thought, thought distraction or any deviation using good 'ol common sense. Get a real job, Monkey.
LVEbonys 8 months ago
The fast food place I work at has better quality security cameras than the pentagon? Wait a second, you're telling me that the CIA's security cameras are grossly pixelated and film at only 4 frames per second? Something smells fishy.
xXJEashXx 8 months ago
@xXJEashXx
Like a fish fillet at Mickey D's.
alwaysopen 7 months ago
@HeadLiceDurkalMonkee
Oh...I see. Ok then.
So I am a what?....a "DISIFO-AGENT"? (dis-info BTW)
Did you even stop to analyze that what I stated comes from your very own military, government and media?
Please...don't lower yourself to total embarrassment by getting your friends to suppress FACTS, not THEORIES like the BS you have been ordered to defend. But it's ok...I understand, you must obey and accomplish the task you have been given, even if it comes down to defending lies.............
LVEbonys 8 months ago
@HeadLiceDurkalMonkee So, anyone who opposes the government-provided BS is a dis-info agent...Hmm, man, Is that the best crap you guys can come up with???????
Your agenda is clear as water....haven't you noticed that a higher number of human beings no longer believe the bullshit hired asses like yourself seed into the internet? Please, take your head out of your paid ASS.
In general, your reverse psychology arguments just have to get better Mr. Monkey Head...
LVEbonys 8 months ago
good video. any non-government follow up about the actual #757? where and how they been terminated?
yeewaishun 8 months ago
Just Google search "stories by Bill Woollam"....and search the title on that blog titled 'Bogus Bin Laden Story on Canada's Election Day'
From veteran CIA officer Robert Baer, to former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, to former FBI head of counterterrorism Dale Watson, and former Deputy Assistant to US Secretary of State...all reported Bin Laden's died in December of 2001. The tapes coming later are all 'doctored'.
Chidanandaji 8 months ago