Commerical Against "Hate Crimes" Laws

[MsFullheart]

there are many cases in the uk too!

[chesterlott821]

Subbed please sub back

[Kayzewolf]

"Sending grandmothers to jail goes too far" Really? So we should let them be above the law then?

[GodAthie]

i believe hate should play a small role in deciding figuring the sentence that people will serve for violent crimes. nonviolent crimes like this shouldn't even have the hate espect attached to them.

[christopherse2]

You promote hate, you SHOULD face consequences!

[kkdkk7]

Senile granny .. 

[1RadicalOne]

I do not know who Linda Beckman is, but if this case is like the others, she is not as innocent as she puts on. Freedom of speech has a limit; your rights end where someone else's begin - even if you believe that you have the right to override others.

Case in point - Randall Terry. He claims he is persecuted for his speech. Problematic...until you realize he has caused the deaths of dozens of people by distributing their personal information and talking about how they are better dead.

[MassiveFaith]

What a lying dirty bitch

[92keys524]

why is everything so slanted... I just want to know the truth. Christian orginaztions make up these stories about how they were "censored" and gay rights activists try to take some patriotic high road or Mathew Shepard sob story. I'm sorry Mathew Shepard died and I don't like censorship... but I just wanted know what's real!!!!

[morph628]

@92keys524 I try to search for the truth as well only to find that everything is fiction. Few people are capable of truthfulness because they so dearly want to mold the word to fit their personal ideas. We are all guilty of it, but some people dedicate their lives to “spinning” stories and clearly lose touch with any sense of “truth.”

[SOBEKsRAINBOW]

Do research about the real Linda Beckman.

She was arrested before this because she did "Abortion Clinic Rescues" which means she would stand in front of Planned Parenthood and not allow the women to enter the building.

Also, she had interrupted a Gay pride event and tried to interrupt a stage performance.

When police asked her nicely to move from the stage, she resisted.

THIS is why she was arrested.

Linda Beckman.......not innocent as you think.

[cachemachine]

@SOBEKsRAINBOW Her arrest was not in vain. At least one soul received Salvation out of her imprisonment. In her words that was worth going to jail for.

She was arrested for not paying her fines. Which she also helped stopped one abortion before the first arrest. Saving the life of an innocent baby.

Sounds like she still done the work of God behind bars. LOL To me I would be happy to go to jail if I can save a life and a soul.

[whoo689]

This story sounds like a bunch of baloney! Where's the proof? Any moron can claim this happened to them for a cause. A 47-year-old woman handing out anti-gay pamphlets gets sentenced to 47 years?? I don't think so. Maybe in Sweden or some other PC European nation, but that shit doesn't happen here. I don't care how liberal your city is. Even they have enough sense to protect free speech.

[whoo689]

scratch the 47-year-old stuff. I confused myself there. Obviously she's much older.

But I find it astonishing that so many Christian and conservative groups make it their mission to defend the right to say hateful and bigoted shit about gays. To make fun of them. Why the fuck is that a badge of honor?? That's just sick.

[karloffornia13]

RA is using scare tactics. This video was made before LGBT persons were even added to a Hate Crime Law.

On top of that, Fred Phelps and his merry old band are a lot more offensive and abrasiveness, and never get arrested...well...there was that one time for stomping on a flag.

The truth is, Repent America doesn't get into trouble because of "Hate Crime Laws" (which, by the way, are only used in violent acts and murder). They get into trouble because they are reckless.

[Fromanttodugong]

Rather than try to repeal a law that protects people from abuse why not just stop preaching hatred toward gays?

[orgay3]

You are a pathetic old woman.

[jfsfrnd]

Linda Beckman was held in jail because she had not paid fines from a 1995 arrest, not because she was "sharing the gospel". Look it up people. Nice attempt to get sympathy Grannie.

[totallyclubbin]

lol IT'S LOCKDOWN TIME GRAMMA!! hahahahahaha

[meidc]

This is what's happening because we Christians are so divided. We must all swallow our religious pride and unite against this clear and present evil. For in doing so we demonstrate that we far outnumber them (the socialist left).

[PLANBMUSICVIDEOS]

Go to hell, lancestart2, you perverted psycho freak....you may be laughing now with satan but you will be nothing but a slave who must endure torture, suffering and never-ending torment for eternity. Coming soon. You did it to yourself. No sympathy.

[lancestar2]

aww so i guess were gonna revert back to name calling how grown up are we! lol what a loving and caring person you must be I can see why GOD has picked such a loving caring person to share his good work... go keep calling everyone that disagree with you perverts ect. and enjoy your live! I will enjoy every second of my freedom and GOD BLESS YOU! I mean that from the bottom of my heart I hope one day you will understand that we are all god children!!!

[whoo689]

Ah, yes! There's that good ol' Christian love and compassion we hear so much about. This is what Jesus died on the cross for, right? So you could judge everyone that's not Christian or is a "sinner" and condemn them to hell?

Only God can judge. All you can do is help people who are TRULY being evil (murder, rape, theft) become good and punish them. Not judge people for shit that goes in on their private lives (like being gay) just b/c you disagree with it.

[whoo689]

@PLANBMUSICVIDEOS You phony Christians make me sick to my stomach. At least half of what you guys preach and believe is NOTHING like Jesus taught or said. It's more like the prick Jehovah of the Old Testament, but you don't want to be associated with him by the public. So you claim you're "Christians."

Dumb people might believe it, but I don't get fooled easily. You guys are self-deluding Jews, really.

[PLANBMUSICVIDEOS]

lancestar2, I sent you the PROOF by private message. I don't care what you say, you are the sick one and the lady in this video is the healthy one, and there is nothing on this earth you can say to change the facts, the truth.

[lancestar2]

PLANBMUSICVIDEOS you are DISGUSTING!! I was never raped or sexually asulted I lived in the country weather you belive me or not i dont care I know my past and its sad how you try to say that hitler and his army was gay you are the dusgusting pervert trying to FORCE everyone to live by your standards I will live my life just the way I want to and the way GOD made me weather you belive it or not GOD DID make me who I am and I am VERY BEATIFUL! and you are wrong!

[lancestar2]

but I am GLAD that old lady went to jail how DARE she try to evaide paying COURT ORDERED FEES for breaking the LAW! just know that I am out there living my life and one day I will get married to the man of my dreams and we will live happly ever after and I hope YOU DO TO marry the person of your deams and live happly ever after just dont FORCE your belives onto me only god can judge me and only god can judge you!! I just hope you realise that you cant force everyone to be like you...

[lancestar2]

O and one last thing... there has been document cases of homosexuality in all cilivations and in the wild in monkeys and other animals like douphins ect. do you belive they were all raped to? and if you belive this ideal that all homosexuals were raped how do you explain how it all started... who raped the first homosexuals? just wondering what your responce will be to that question....

[PLANBMUSICVIDEOS]

The Bible says to HATE everything that is evil. Therefore, it is right and good to HATE sodomites who defile children. They need to be executed.

[lancestar2]

.... its easy you point out a group of people and make them look evil i mean every type of people you can take a look at the extreme and call them all evil people but you cant (or at least shouldnt) judge people let alone judge people on a few bad people other wise it would be saying like berney madoff is an evil white man all white men are EVIL and going to HELL!!! PRAISE THE LORD!.....does this even makes sence let alone can you understand it???

[lancestar2]

so what does that evil have to do if I and my boyfriend (MY GAY LOVER) witch I am 22 and he is 24 what does that have to do.... you belive that all gay people go around defileing kids??????? again there is str8t people who abuse hurt children and i agree it is WRONG! but can you make the asumption that ALL straight people are EVIL children DELIFLERS!???? no you cant generalise people until you know each and every individual!

[j4unumber1]

Imprison the Philadelphia Eleven!

I wonder if a particular demographic organized the killing of evangelical Christians if said Christians would then support hate crimes legislation under that circumstance.

[standupforfreedom153]

Fellow Christians There is a "hate crimes bill" S.909 that was devised by the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith in order to criminalize Christianity. Any Good Christian who publicly stands up for traditional marriage or protests the millions of babies murdered by abortion will run the risk of jail like in Canada. Check out truthtellers and watch Rev. Ted Pike's videos explaining the danger and then call your Senators toll free at 877-851-6437 and tell them NO on S.909. Save Our Constitution

[Gambull07]

First of all she was arrested because they were protesting without a permit, abusing other protesters, and they refused to cooperate with the police. She was the only one that received jail time and it was because she hadn't paid a fine and had prior offenses. Repent America also protests outside my school every year and they are a very abusive group towards any opposition or Muslim women and inflict physical harm if police aren't present or watching.

[Felidaise]

Hate crime laws do not hinder free speech.

So far, federal hate crime laws protect people based on their race, religion, gender, ethnicity, and nationality.

Yet the KKK and other neo-nazi groups are allowed to exist.

They are allowed their opinons about people of different races.

If those groups are allowed to voice their opinions when races are protected by hate crime laws, why do you think your church or members would be arrested for your opinions on homosexuals?

[PLANBMUSICVIDEOS]

Thanks for this video! That is INSANE that you were sent to jail for speaking the TRUTH! Those criminals who did this to you deserve the death penalty!

[lancestar2]

she was sent to jail because she was sitting on the steps of an abortion clinic and she never paid her fines that was court ordered in a privous sentance.... Know the facts not just the pretty old lady knitting in the ad....

[PLANBMUSICVIDEOS]

lancestar2, no lady should EVER go to jail for doing something good, and no lady should EVER go to jail for not paying stupid fines that are unjustified. I'll tell you who should go to jail: fags, pedophiles, and people who murder fetuses and state workers who abuse children in foster care. No, I take that back. They should be EXECUTED!

[lancestar2]

hey so did hitler he was the last major person in goverment that also wanted to gays to go to jail and he did whatever happened to him O thats right he started of discrimating against the jew then the gays and basicly anyone that was different

[lancestar2]

O and keeping on topic of the movies you do realise how this ad is missleading given my points of my origional comment... regardless of what you personal belife is the points in the ad are false!

[PLANBMUSICVIDEOS]

lancestar2, your ignorance is showing. The nazis WERE fags! Read the book, The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party by Scott Lively. Then be embarrassed about your stupidity.

[lancestar2]

sorry that u cant be saved ur mind is to far gone I read the generals about the book discriptions im sure hilter was gay being that he was married and had put tons of gay into the camps but u want to belive what helps you feel better about yourself also

[realzoomy]

I am a child abuse survivor, and a Christian, and I have been threatened with legal action this very morning by a website that is supposed to be supporting abuse survivors, but in reality is brainwashing them by getting them to regress into baby talk, then reporting them as unsuitable parents to Social Services.

Big Brother is watching YOU, and it is just as Orwell said that it would be.

[CPSSucks]

"Hate crimes" is just another example of Big Brother controlling our lives. If someone commits a crime because of something I said or wrote, that's their problem. But no, the gov't has to "protect" us all, and make sure no one gets hurt. Big government = big trouble.

[1carlosf]

Yes. They want to control what we can think and express. Only the "correct" speeches and ideas are allowed in this Orwellian PC tyranny.

See: lastdayswatchman blogspot com

[estellar123]

It would depend on what the pamphlets said. Freedom of speech does not include the right to encourage violence against other people.

[joyfulartiste]

Unfortunately she was telling the truth. These 11 Christians, including Linda Beckman were slapped with multiple different charges including use of weapons (do they mean the Bible? I didn't see any other weapons) & a fine of $90,000 each. Fortunately a judge saw the injustice of this case and discarded it but only after several other court cases. And to noticeguy34, the police should not have ordered them to leave. The 11 were completely within their rights to speak. Think the 1st ammendment.

[whitefire64]

what did the pamphlets say?

[370wii]

That's not right what they did to her.

[notaniceguy34]

unfortunately she is not telling the truth. she and others with her were arrested when they wouldn't comply with police orders.

[rebelstang]

liberals Hate The Truth!

they only use Hate crime, when it's a white doing it.

Most Hate Crimes ,

are Commited by Blacks!

A Lady of Any Color, Passing Out a Pamphlet, is Not a Hate Crime!

Nor a Crime At All!

Good Luck Ma'm & GOD BLESS!

[imacarfreak]

47 YEARS?!?!?!? i tottaly disagree with the "pro hate crimes" message, but seriously. she cant possibly be telling the truth about facing 47 years in prison

[XjussyX92]

there was probably something hateful in her little pamphlets... they just conveniently forget to mention it in this commercial.

[seymour333]

Hate crimes are a bogus concept. It punishes for a criminal's

"attitude" and "motivation."

[girzwald3]

Well, motivation is often a consideration in a crime. If you purposely kill your wife. Its murder. Unless you JUST caught her in bed with a stranger. Then it could be considered a "crime of passion."

The problem is people don't have the common sense to see when a motivation for a crime is irrelevant.

[OutoftheClosetTV]

Radical Christians want to burn books and pull sponsors from TV shows, but hey, they are for FREE speech? You CAN NOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYs. You can not be free and enslave others to your ideas. That's called communism. You can not want to be free to talk on a street corner and at the same time want to remove gay couples freedom to marry on a street corner. It's called, hypocrisy.

[Fulcanellius]

I agree that you were not committing a hate crime, but in all honesty you have no right to preach to others that have not come to you to hear preaching, no one has the right to expect others to conform to their view of reality thinking like this will eventually turn us all into clone like drones all responding and thinking and feeling the same way as everyone else, religion is what happens when belief in self fails is what i think but i dont just pummle people with paper/words until they believe

[johnvbellis]

That's what Christians do - go out to preach the Gospel, not just sit back and wait for people to come to them.

People who go out in to the world and preach the Gospel have always encountered hostility, especially when they go in to rough areas.

America has the 1ss Amendment to protect speech that upsets others, if the only speech that is protected is speech that doesn't upset anyone anywhere, it doesn't really need protection.

USA has done well with 1st Amendment. Let's not give it up

[crazynatedog]

fulcanellius- um its her 1st amendment right to offer people pamphlets( they can turn her down if they want). You say that if we expect everyone to conform then everyone would be clones etc. .... um no. Everyone is unique, if you have the same beliefs that doesnt make you a clone or the world borring( what does that really matter anyways?) Believers do believe in themselves, but they also believe they need a savior who loves them. nobody should pummel others with their beliefs, but share them.

[OutoftheClosetTV]

Straights rob me of my personal freedoms daily? I'm stripped of my freedom to marry who I love. I guess according to her that's okay too. Based on that, I wish I could vote to remove the right to have women vote or to even be HEARD in the church. God makes it clear in the Bible, women are to be seen, not heard. Or I guess the Bible doesn't MEAN that...right. Hypocrite. They are all hypocrites. Idle hands makes for the devils tool.

[johnvbellis]

Hey but let's be honest.

It is easier for the Pols in Pennsylvania to go after politically incorrect 70 year old grandmothers than the violent gang bangers, drug dealers that have made Metro Phily so rough.

Are murders "hate crimes" - NO, I guess they are not unless some evil straight, White "Christian" man targets:

Gays

Muslims

Jews

Native Americans

So, good news to all the people in Phily who were murdered last year - they weren't "hate crimes", must be "love crimes".

[Dutchmstr420]

I hope your god is real, because when i'm burning in hell it will be just o so sweet with you people burning beside me. If god is love than you are hate. you devil worshipers you. maybe the devil has come to you after all he is very deceitful most of his subjects believe in the "good" their doing.

[RoseEEOE]

I find it funny how much loathing christians spew towards 'outside' terrorists when they are publically fighting for their 'right' to be ones here in America.

[alucardthealchemist]

I really doubt she's telling the full story even if it;s true. no one is gonna send you to jail for spreading the gospel in a country that's about 90% religious.

this video is a misleading lie to get people on their side.

[FurtherSee]

Grandma just lucky she didn't get busted in the face. GAY GUERRILLA TACTICS NOW!

[totallyclubbin]

off to the pokey with you grandma! Time for you to be a maytag!

[bunnyluv41]

that's not funny!! I think I'll say that to your mother and grandmother and see how you like it!

[HeartsBlast]

this is outrageous!!! hate crimes prevent harm!

freedom of speech is permissable, but when you start harming people in the process its unacceptable! (her story is unbelievable and couldnt possibly be true!!!)

[bunnyluv41]

Keep your head in the sand, if you must. It is true! I saw it on the local news when I lived there in PA at that time!!

[zortnac]

Well gosh, when you describe the event as "sharing the gospel on the sidewalk" while showing video of you peacefully handing out pamphlets on a corner, it DOES sound like you're being persecuted.

Of course, what actually happened was you and your group moving through a crowded event, trying to disrupt it as you shouted through a bull horn.

The truth shall set you free.

[OutoftheClosetTV]

I bet Nazi don't feel like they should go to prison for killing Jews. What does this woman and a Nazi have in common, they both preach hate. She doesn't quietly sit in a chair and think about how much she hates gay people. She stands on the street corner and hands out literature encouraging people to hate. God loves everyone. God commands her to love her neighbor. I should stand on a street corner and had out information that encourages people to hate this woman. Oh...not a good idea?

[brentpieczynski]

All organizations desire to grab as much power as possible, which is why minimum Government is best.

[Jacksonholenativ]

Isn't that just special? The Bible does NOT call homosexuals sodomites. The word sodomite and homosexual are not the same thing. The men of sodom were self-centered, cared more about their money than their neighbor, were murderous and Lot even offered his daughters to them. I don't think a homosexual man would be interested in that.

[Jacksonholenativ]

This woman was not sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ. She was spreading bigotry. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the good news that Jesus paid the price for our Salvation. Jesus never said a word about Homosexuality yet it seems that our self-righteous Christian bigots think that they can play God and make all kinds of outrageous statements that have nothing to do with the Good News of Christ's salvation for all mankind.

[eyeztothesky]

wow thats wild...she said "arrested in 2004" and faced 47 years behind bars, did they let her out to do this commercial or something?

[positron66]

What kind of laws is it that promote crimes and not "hate crimes"? The law makers are out of their spiritual minds.

[ramblingkid]

How could any judge decide that handing out tracts is a hate crime?

[1260days]

Jesus said we would suffer for His name's sake! Praise the LORD!

[Mekelsior]

This is part of propehcy. The world will forbid spreading the gospel that Jesus Christ lives. What then? When the spreading of the word stops it is time for the Christians that keep the Law of God to stand up and take refuge in the mountains, as the time for the great persecution is about to commence.

[1260days]

I agree! We are NOT to fight. There will be no pre or mid trib rapture. Prepare to endure for Christ's names sake!

[beverly92552]

It is really a crazy world we now live in

God Bless

[werner12000]

If all of you would become catholic you don´t have problems like this one.

;)

[ramblingkid]

The Roman Catholic System would keep us from having any problemzss, yes, because we would all swear iour allegiance to the Pope and not to God.

I'm against that kind of theocracy that takes away our freewill that God graced us all with.

[werner12000]

In this case we have to refuse any kind of human religious authority, right?

[devonrose742]

the only problem would be: eternal damnation in hell, but aside from that you could live a lustful life with the gay clergy.

I do not approve of the whore of babylon.

[IslamPlague]

We need to get rid of the ACLU :)

[ramblingkid]

Well, I think the ACLU is a good idea, but it has been too corrupted by atheistic ideas.

I encourage folks to just take a look at out currency. "In God we trust" shows that the forefathers were theistic people. They atarted this country for a reason, and that reason has nothing to do with prosecuting Christians for following the greatest man ever or taking every mention of God out of the public's eye.

[werner12000]

Crazy America that´s insane! You have too many lawyers!

[pheasguide]

Liars not lawyers

[werner12000]

How do you mean that?

[tmjseven7]

I encourage you to continue sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ!

[loveualatte]

hang on to your boot straps people ... it's only going to get worse before the Lord comes calling. Get right with Jesus!

[DukeRightious]

Thanks for sharing...

[TonyJ017]

The World has gone insane.. How is sharing the gospel "hateful"? We live in dark times..

[joness105639]

"How is sharing the gospel "hateful"?" In this day and age, that which claims to be absolute truth and/or absolute morality, is considered hateful and intolerant. The bible will be called hate speech and with it the Tanakh. Ironic since the ADF is behind the hate crimes laws 100% Works by socrates, plato, and aristotle may also be "hate speech" someday, who knows?

[MannaBoBannaPeople]

Because to those that are in sin, it becomes hate to call what they lust after wicked.

Up is down, down is up and right is left and left right under the satanic system of tolerance only under Gods system where TRUTH remains constant and doesn't change with every wind of thought does a clear buttress of an ensign or standard become clear.

[GodsGraceMyFreedom]

No, I don't believe Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle would be called hate speech. Jesus is the Way, Truth, and the Life. Their works don't point to Jesus as Savior to the world.

[Ammyai]

I hope they lock up all the hateful imams as well then!

They should be doing that already! Even without any extra laws or powers!

[Ammyai]

A new "Hate Crimes Bill" should be written!

One that actually deals with hate crimes. But isn't all crime hate?

So deal with all crime! Something like that shouldn't even need a Bill. It should be Law already.

[johnvbellis]

You're getting close to the truth.

The truth is we don't need any more laws, just fair law enforcement, fair judicial system.

Violent criminal acts motivated by any reason or hateful.

Is there such thing as a "love crime"?

Oh, so and so's jealous ex boyfriend, stalked and murder his ex and her new husband - but we shouldn't worry too much about this crime because it wasn't a...

"hate crime".

For gays concerned about hostile, intolerant folks, just document and prosecute real crime.

[Ammyai]

Yes, thanks, that's what I was trying to say.

We don't need any more laws... crime is already surely against the law. It just needs to be properly enforced.

[johnvbellis]

But yours is a fair point of view.

These Hate crime/hate speech laws are anything but fair.

They politicize crime, politicize the law. By making certain alleged crime, speech against certain protected groups a Federal crime, the implication is that violent crime against others that are not in these protected classes are OK.

I live in Chicago - we had over 500 murders last year, less than 1% would even be considered Fed hate crimes - so the implication is why bother - it wasn't hate crime.

[sicstyl]

Ohhh It's gonna get better... Wait till it goes from arrest to death penalty.. JESUS COME QUICK!!!

[meri2007bulgaria]

nowhere in a bibile is say this is rigth to stop the christians to share what is rigth ,a you lesbians and geys you bettre be save becase the time is close and Jesus is come so ..check in a bible is not tolking about Adam and Steve a Adama and Eve so..that you trying to doing your stuped staff to say 'oh we don't have it rigths" just is not working not and agains GOD WORD !

[PandoraKyss]

Pwned, bitch. Stop sharing the gospel. Keep it to yourself.

[Terri3210]

The Antichrist is about to show his ugly face.

[werner12000]

She is the Antichrist ?!? No wonder they put her in jail.

[gearzone2611]

Are you saying all of them are guilthy?

[zhatcher]

Ha! This reminds of a Saturday Night Live sketch... are you sure this isn't really Dana Carvey!?

[Jacksonholenativ]

That is a bunch of fear-mongering fundamentalist religious propaganda. What a bunch of lies that lady is saying. Pennsylvania would not prosecute that for her passing out a brochure that is anti-gay. That's pathetic that she and whoever is sponsoring her is stooping this low.

[phillyl0ve]

Whether she was prosecuted and threatened with 45 years I don't know, but I know for a fact she was arrested.

[Cheatsey198705]

"Hate Crime Law" are the most putrid thing to be spewed out in this day and age... since when did one group of people become more important than another? People preaching against homosexuality will get arrested and sent to prison for hate speech... what a sad state this country is in. Sad sad when America loves perversion more than God.

[Shylaraes]

No, what's sad is when courtesy is completely forgotten. That's why there are hate crime laws.

[Cheatsey198705]

You don't know the first thing about courtesy.

[Shylaraes]

Coming from you, that means nothing.

[Cheatsey198705]

Once again, you don't know the first thing about courtesy, hypocrite.

[Shylaraes]

Once again, coming from somebody as crude and hateful as you, that means nothing. The only bile that comes out of your wretched mouth is hatred.

[Cheatsey198705]

I have no hate in my heart... you're part of a foolish mass of reprobates who call good bad, and bad good... you don't know the difference between love and hate. I have said it many times and will say it again... truth is hate for those who hate the truth. I have no hate in my heart. That is the quality of your father, Satan. It is quite hypocritical though the hate you have in your heart towards Christians. Therefor you are a hypocrit.

[Shylaraes]

Let me get this straight, you say that you have no hatred in your heart, and then go to say that my father is Satan... Hmm. You might want to think that one over, you see, because Christians hate Satan, because the mythological being known as Satan stands for "evil," and Christians apparently hate evil.

[Cheatsey198705]

The bible tells us to hate evil... I have misworded what I said. What I mean is I have no hatred in my heart for people. The bible commands us to hate sin though. And interestingly enough the bible never tells us to even hate the devil. You will not find one verse that commands us to hate Satan. We are only supposed to hate sin, and evil. Not any individual person.

[Shylaraes]

Since Satan is sin and evil (according to the bible), that would mean that you hate him, and considering that Satan is apparently my father (a very rude thing of you to say, if I do say so myself), that would mean that you do, indeed, hate my father.

[Shylaraes]

And just for the record, I don't hate Christians. I hate fundamentalists, and for good reason: they're idiots. If I hated Christians, that would mean that I hate my entire family, with the exception of my brothers, which I don't.

[Cheatsey198705]

You probably don't even know what the definition of a fundamentalist is... I see that word being slung around youtube like no tomorrow yet nobody seems to know what the definition of "fundamentalist" is.

[Shylaraes]

In the 1920's, a strict set of Christian traditions were set, that one must take every single word in scripture literally, and believe that it was written by the hand of god. These people were called the Fundamentalists. How sad. You tried to test me, and I not only gave you an explanation of what a fundamentalist is, I gave the correct decade in which fundamentalism began.

[Cheatsey198705]

*sigh*

Fundamentalist is not only applied to Christians for one... there are Muslim Fundamentalists, Hindu Fundamentalists, Wiccan Fundamentalists, etc. You have just once again prove you discriminate against Christians. Congrats.

[Shylaraes]

The Fundamentals were published by Christians, smart guy. You asked what a fundamentalist is, in your case, that would be a fundamentalist Christian, which first emerged in mass media in the 1920's. If you were a Muslim, a Hindu, or a Wiccan, I would have given you a history of when those religions had fundamentalists emerging in mass media. I thought that would be common sense.

[Jacksonholenativ]

So what kind of Christian are you talking about know it all? Baptist, Pentecostal, Methodist? What about the Greek Orthodox Christian? What about the Catholic? What about the Eastern Orthodox Christian? Which Bible should they read? The KJV, NIV or another textual variant? What about the Christian variants of the first through third centuries? What of them? Read Dr. Bart Ehrman's book "Lost Christianities the Battles for Scripture and the Faith's We Never Knew." That's an eye opener.

[Jacksonholenativ]

There are also atheistic fundamentalists as well. So Christian fundamentalists and virtually all fundamentalist extremists (Christian or not) are not only unhealthy for society but they can also be dangerous to our pluralistic society.

[SpeedyBruin]

I think the ignorance is fading away slowly in this country. I look at your account name and craziness though and am reminded that it may take longer for some, but I'm hopeful.

[nlspears02]

How is preaching the gospel forcing in the open forcing it upon others. If you don't like it, don't listen. Nevertheless, the bible states that the Gospel is an offense to the unregenerate man, so sinners will get convicted by it and either respond it one of two ways: hear the voice of the Lord through the preacing of the gospel and repent, or harden their hearts and lash out in anger.

[SpeedyBruin]

I'm happy to answer your question although firstly I'll point out as I said above that I support free speech. However, these groups arn't simply trying to convince people of their religious beliefs. They are trying to influence laws in such a way as to make lgbt people unequal under the law. This is being done using a religious argument.

[nlspears02]

Sorry, but the reality is the exact opposite. Laws, more specifically Hate Crime Laws, are being created to prevent preaching the Gospel or any other type of speaking out that "Goes Against the Grain of society", and so-called offends people's way of life.

[nlspears02]

Slowly, but surely our freedoms are being taken from us. For example, the Patriot Act Laws and the H.R. 1955 Violent Radicalization Act Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 are subtle ways the government is robbing us of constitutional freedoms.

[SpeedyBruin]

One could point to the same ledgislation and the trend it shows as support for the point of view I have put foreward.

[stephaniecharpentier]

Thats really good.

[SpeedyBruin]

Quickly looking this up it turns out this charge was dismissed. However, this group attended several gay pride events and were charged with disorderly conduct along with several similar charges. This bigoted woman will not serve 47 years in jail. She's grossly exagerating the events and trying to spring up more bigotry and division.

[repentamerica]

Repent America Responds: It is true that we have attended a number of homosexual events because we believe it is important to share the truth of God's Word with those who are trapped in bondage to this self-destructive lifestyle. Linda, along with 10 others, were in fact charged with a "hate crime" and other felony and misdemeanor charges, including "disorderly conduct", for their lawful exercise of their constitutionally protected rights.

[repentamerica]

Those charges were ALL dismissed as being without merit, but if convicted, Linda, and the 10 others, could have spent up to 47 years in prison and $90,000 in fines each. This is no "gross exaggeration", but a sad reality of how our nation continues to head down the path of destruction.

[SpeedyBruin]

Quit forcin your religion on people? They've heard you and have a right to simply say no.

[nlspears02]

Perfect example of a reprobate mind.

[SpeedyBruin]

To clarify my position I think this woman (horrible as she may be) should have the right to say whatever she pleases. However, I do not believe we should take the religion of some and force it upon others in violation of our traditon of separation of church and state.

[nlspears02]

Additionally, if this were some racist group marching and shouting their hate speech, they would have the open floor with the law protecting them. Kinda backwards if you ask me.

[chazzzwho]

"force" it on others?  you don't like what I say, walk away. just walk away.

[christianresistance]

It's not bigoted to proclaim what the Bible says about homosexuality. The fact is a persons sexual preference can be changed. The message is that Christ can set a person free. Now that's mercy and grace.

[Jacksonholenativ]

Bull-crap. There are hundreds of thousands of people who have tried to "pray away the gay" which is a concept that is about as foreign to the ancient world of the Bible as Cell phones are. There have been countless broken lives especially to the women (wives) who have married gay men thinking God would change them only to realize later that it just wasn't going to happen. It's pure abuse for any Church to brain wash a person into believing that if they pray hard enough they'll change.

[christianresistance]

Yes, members of RA have been arrested several times. However, it you 'de continue in your research you would see the charges are always bogus. To me it speaks volumes about the bias in law enforcement more than anything. Despite all the charges they committed no crime other than preach the truth.

[SpeedyBruin]

Furthermore, there are appropriate ways to voice your opposition to homosexuality, but raining down fire and brimstone at a pride event is not one of them and people should not be intimidated or threatened for attending such and event. This whole thing is distasteful and reminds me of the westborrow baptist church.

[SpeedyBruin]

Looks like we tried to post at about the same time christian heh. I also noticed quite a few typos in my text so I'll appologize for that bit of mess.

[christianresistance]

The public proclamation of the Gospel will continue as is has for thousands of years. No one is ever going to stop that. It may be distasteful to someone who wants to hold on to their sin "sodomy". However, to those who will receive the message.....to them it is the power to be the sons of God. It is a benevolent message.

[chazzzwho]

so, what if I simply go to a gay pride event and read the bible. just read it. is that intimidation? reading or quoting from the bible? who sidewalks as streets are these we all walk on? they belong to all of us even if we disagree. what if we have a Christian pride parade...will lgbts come and try to disrupt or just display signs? will you try to silence me?

[Jacksonholenativ]

Your Christianresistance b.s. screen name is tantamount to the Crusading mentality of the Medieval times. I'm sure the ancient Popes and other Christian leaders of those times called themselves Christian resisters too. They felt that they were resisting evil through their crusading mentality which eventually cost the lives of thousands of innocent people. Religion can be a very dangerous thing.

[christianresistance]

Are you the one who is posting under the screne name "rights for dykes"? There is hope for you honney......

[TonyJ017]

Jacksonholenativ,

Sodomy is a sin period. Not only is it a sin, but God finds it as sick digusting abomination. If you love God, you will cease commiting the sin of sodomy, and adultery.

[1611isperfect]

That's right.  Amen!