Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney: Soundtrack - Solitary Confinement ~ Darkness Theme

[Seikufu]

I have to say, Kristoph has the comfiest prison cell I've ever seen.

[qantasfan11]

I wish they made it possible to break his black psyche locks. it would be such a huge part of the game as it would probable take about 7 years to complete.

[GreenRedBlue20]

Reminds me a bit of Wrestlemania X8 Create a Wrestler theme and porn music.

[GreenRedBlue20]

Reminds me a bit of Wrestlemania X8 Create a Wrestler theme and porn music.

[xxNd3r3LLaxx]

I want the MASON System.

[kusxmerel]

Morgan was in this cell!

[omegaplib]

Top 5 Criminals in Ace Attorney:

1º- Dahlia Hawthorne

2º- Kristoph Gavin

3º- Manfred von Karma

4º- Matt Engarde

5º- Damon Gant

[DrexelDragonO91]

@omegaplib Don't forget Rhea Witts.

[omegaplib]

@DrexelDragonO91

who is Rhea Witts? I don't remember this one O.o

[DrexelDragonO91]

@omegaplib Search for Apollo Justice Turnabout Substitution on YouTube. She's a psycho-bitch. I'd wager that she is as bad as Dahila Hawthorne. Yeah, she's THAT bad.

[DrexelDragonO91]

@omegaplib Actually, copy and paste this title in the YouTube search bar and click on the first link:

Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney (Case 5 - Turnabout Substitution) [Part 24 Ending Pt. 1]

and be sure to check out part 2 of the ending where you see what happens to her.

[omegaplib]

@DrexelDragonO91

Well this is not a real case from the game so I can't list her.

You scared the hell out of me when you showed me this, I thought that it was a real case and that I forgot to play.

[DrexelDragonO91]

@omegaplib OBJECTION! You stated one thing in your previous testimony.

"Top 5 Criminals in Ace Attorney:"

Now, where in that comment did you say the criminals had to be from the official series?

[omegaplib]

@DrexelDragonO91

OBJECTION! tsk tsk tsk, well Mr.Dragon I don't need to give you satisfaction because that list is personal!

I am the owner of that list and now I say that only criminals from the official series are permitted.

XD, only kidding, well that Rhea girl is pretty bad, but we can't edit comments so it's going to stay like that.

[2paclove]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that the last part never happend due to the impossibility of collecting evidence in the future and presenting it in the past?

Maybe it was just telling how the story would be if they had all the information but in reality they lost

[Dextroyfuller]

@2paclove

*SPOILERS*

The part where you play as Phoenix was a "game" he made for the jurists called the MASON System. It showed them a generalized version of his investigation into his disbarring.

He never did "time travel", but at least most of what was shown during that part were based on real events.

[DracoFlame67]

@2paclove The MASON system isn't time travel, and there were only two scenarios like that in the whole thing, both which could have happened differently fitting into the time frame. First, Vera's Psyche-Locks. You need the Nail Polish and Kristoph's profile to beat it. Vera has the exact same bottle in her studio, and Phoenix knew Kristoph before going there. Phoenix could have broken the locks without having to see Kristoph in his cell; that was only for the player to get their connection.

[DracoFlame67]

@DracoFlame67 With Zak, you needed the photo of Thalassa that had her bracelets, which Phoenix gets from Brushel. This is shown at Present Drew Studio, after the trial he was a witness in, no less. That entire conversation may have just happened BEFORE everything else in the "present". It is the first of the four present areas to be finished completely, so it may have entirely been possible to have happened during the seven-year interval between past and present. 2 time zones is simmpler than 3.

[RainingSilence]

Psychelocks...okay...WTF 5 BLACK PSYCHE LOCKS? WTF DID YOU DO KRISTOPH

[buntado6]

I wouldn´t think that he is involved with apollo past in a weird way just for being his mentor. But I remember that he seemed to know about the power of the Gramaryes, it could have been for seeing it in the first case of the game however. Stil, for all we know, for him to train the son of a Gramarye was a very big fucking coincidence. I don´t sympathise with Kristoph and sucks my balls if he had a trauma, but still as a villain it would be very interesting to see him again ,and the black-locks

[tkn4everb]

Those black psyche locks definitely gave me the feeling there is more to him than was revealed in this game. He's also at the top of my list for being the most psychotic antagonist in the Ace Attorney series since he actually felt threatening.

[Whippenberg]

maybe next game teyll combine the magatama, and the bracelet, FEY AND GRAMARYE CO-OP FTW

[hotdiddykong2]

its just too damn hard to take Kristoph seriously when he's constantly giving you that smile....

[OrangexBlitz]

This soundtrack just made me scream in joy because it has Kristoph in it. >__>

[Shiek927]

Kristoph is so damn shady

[Begeru]

It would be cool if Kristoph was in the next game, he probably would since we need to know more about Apollo's past. i bet you might even play case as him.

[mrslovvet]

Definitely.

*spoilers*

Kristoph's motive for killing those people doesn't sit well with me. I feel like there's something else that hasn't been explained.

[TheBlackDeathArcher]

Same. Especially with those five damn psyche locks. I WANTED TO KNOW!

[mrslovvet]

Yeah! Because Phoenix did posses the evidence to break the locks, if they had have been red. So something's not right.

[TheBlackDeathArcher]

Dude and Kristoph was being all hot and like "STOP STEALING MY SHIT" so Phoenix left.

I don't think he had the evidence to break them. I think we need like a flashback of Kristoph's childhood so it can explain the reason as to why he's so fucking psychotic.

[mrslovvet]

That would be the BEST CASE EVER. Hey Capcom, if you read this, we want a Krissi flashback.

[ClownVonDavid]

I assumed the locks were black because of Kristoph's hatred of Phoenix. I'm pretty sure the black psyche locks were simply about him being the evidence forger, anyway.

[mrslovvet]

Most likely... But still. It would be cool if they had a deeper meaning.

[TheBlackDeathArcher]

Really? I assumed it was something deeper than that. I mean, if you think about how damn smart both Phoenix and Kristoph are, both of them knew that Phoenix knew that he was the forger. Kristoph is a very manipulative person, mind you, but I believe that there was an incident in his childhood that made him that way.

[mrMein]

@mrslovvet

Wasn't his motive for jealous on Phoenix ...?

[mrslovvet]

That's what was said. But there COULD be another meaning.

[GigaHands]

@mrMein Well, as Apollo said in the trial, whoever successfullly defended Zak Gramarye would be famous beyond belief (for a lawyer, at least). Zak dropped him, and hired someone Kristoph thought was inferior. That's why he sabotaged Phoenix. Everything else seemed to just be paranoia. That's what I gathered from the case, at least.

[RayAndFlare]

@GigaHands I still don't think paranoia would've made those dark psyche locks appear.

[Whippenberg]

@GigaHands not paranoia, smart thinking: he made sure no one could relate him to the forgery

[GigaHands]

@Whippenberg Taking such extreme measures for an unlikely event is paranoia. Tomayto tomahto.

[Whippenberg]

@mrslovvet same here and its in the black psycho-locks that the truth lies

[nomickok2]

@mrslovvet there are HUNDREDS of things that need explaining and i can smell apolo justice 2 on 3ds

[Whippenberg]

@mrslovvet thats why we has the 5 black, cold, dark psyche locks

[Dextroyfuller]

@mrslovvet

They really should've given him more of a backstory. People don't turn into complete Lawful Evil jerks for no reason. People like Dahlia Hawthorne at least had a good backstory that explained their jerkass-ness.

[fourdaysofdeath]

@Dextroyfuller Then again, there were those black psyche-locks. Five of them. o_o Do we...do we want to know?

[Dextroyfuller]

@fourdaysofdeath

Yes. Yes we do.

Freudian Excuse > Random Evilness

[fourdaysofdeath]

@Dextroyfuller

You've swayed me with your use of tvtropes lingo. XD

[AxelXGabriel]

@mrslovvet Did Manfred need a reason outside Desiring Perfection for what he did? Did Engarde need a reason other then to preserve his fame? Same with Kristoph, all he wanted was the fame and glory from the get go.

[b3t01]

@mrslovvet *spoilers*

totally agree

Man, the ending was a complete hangover

*What is the complete story that ties Apollo? and trucy as half blood brothers?

*What will happen to Thalassa now that she slowly recover memory?

*What exactly are that black psyche locks that Kristoph have on his heart and what secrets hold behind them?

Unfortunately we will have to wait for a long time to know it.

[mrgame221]

@b3t01

We can still answer to black psyche locks.

Black psyche locks are special PL's that can't be unlocked.

Kristoph Gavin strongly keeps secret unlikely most people.

[Seikufu]

@mrslovvet Yep. It would explain his black Psyche-Locks...

[IvaerKenvai]

@Begeru It might happen. We DID get to do a case as Mia Fey, after all. (Trials and Tribulations). If my guessing skills are on-par, we might see a game where you are Kristoph, solving a case. Oh ho ho ho.

[Whippenberg]

@Begeru WTF? hes nothing to do with apollo's past?

[Begeru]

@Whippenberg Well Apollo was trained by him (like it's the same relationship as Mia and Phoenix), so he has something do with something.

[WarriorPrime9000]

@Begeru

Do not want. It'd be like playing as Manfred in the original series...