Also, they have to think about this...how can they propagate Islam by saying such false things? It's like destroying the foundations of a building and expecting it will not fall.
What matters between these two religions is that they can live side by side as Christians and Jews do.
Shiite have the right to think that Koran has been forged as Christians think that Muhammad was a pagan worshiper and as Muslim think that the bible was altered.
but it does not help co-existence between these two religion that one curses the apostles of the other religion.
shias are followers of shiasm, period ,they have allah and beside allah they have 12 gods, who they give divine attribute to these 12 gods, shiasm has total of 13 gods, for shia to be muslim first he has to stop giving divinity of inffalability to 12 imams , but shia will never leave this ideology. hence they are not muslim, they follow shiasm.
Mhm there is only one God... no muslim believes and 12 gods get your freeking facts right. I can insult your ignorant belief as well. Sunni's don't give Zakaat they give Sudoko, only because they have no to give it to. You believe in people who murdered the prophets family to gain power. They wanted power for money, while Ali was to follow what Allah wanted. They did what they wanted take the power, the Zakaat, the political descisions... You idiot, you have no ilm because abu bakar had none...
Coolioitbro, do not insult Abu Bakr (ra), as he was the maternal great grandfather of Imam Ja'far As-Sadiq (rahimahu-llah), and he is the Freed Slave of Allah from the Fire as the Prophet (saw) gave him the glad tidings of it.
And Sunnis are commanded to give Zakat as all Muslims are, because it is stated so in the Qur'an. Any statement otherwise is made out of ignorance. Finally, you don't have it within your power to curse, nor are you the possessor of great knowledge, so fear Allah.
it would be a disgrace to her if she said that? so hes already taken a side of abu bakr over her (as). he said, if she said that, it would be a disgrace to her. shows his opinion of the daughter of the Prophet. Id rather say, if she said that, than i can not respect abu bakr for whoever angered Fatima (as) has angered the prophet (as).
Shia aqeedah and Sunna aqeedah can't and will never mix. This is why this scholar is calling all shia to examine their so called 'hadith' books....may Allah guide them so that they love both Ahlul Bayt and the Companions of Muhammad SAW.
This is not possible my friend... because those companions weren't companions, but rather traitors waiting for the Prophets death to snatch his power. The only way for them was to kill the prophets family... but they couldn't because Allah is ulmighty.
why wwould it mix u guys are followers of imams that never existed in prophets lives and u follow caliphs who were hypocrites. history repeats itself look at the cursed arab world; all followers of the hypocrites.
i think that the whole fight is pointless...and it doesnt make sence..it was all based on politics on how shiism started...Sunnis and shia need to both wake up and stop the crap..and stop spreading hate between eachother..
I can feel a war coming..and we wont be together...we will be opposing each other..
Allah is my god.. Mohamed is my prophet..and Islam is my religion...not sunni or shia.. ISLAM! may allah bless you, wo inshallah a2lqaakom fl jana :D ameen yaa rab :)
its funny and sarcastic when such ppl claim to be in support of islam after a thousand four hundred years.. where were they before? how come all the household of the prophet were all salughtered? how is it that at the same time the abbasyid and Ummayad Dynasties took power? the answer is money, power, and greed let must muslims on the wrong path.. Now Mr.Othman is acting and being so confident and courageous, please give me a break!
not all of the ahl bait where slaughterd and did abu baker (RA) OR umar (RA) ot uthman (RA) or ali (RA) kill them? NO because it was the kafir SHIA that killed most of the ahl bait and the sahaba and even poisoned the prophet (SAAS) get a job SHIA always wanted power but failed coz there where to many sahaba that lived frar away from your lies and corruption.
Jazak'Allah khayr for translating this to english. Masha'Allah, may Allah bless this brother.
"If you are insulting the Companions of the Prophet (sallAllahu 'alayhi wa sallam) I swear by Allah that we love them more than our fathers and mothers and our children and ourselves, also the family of the Prophet (sallAllahu 'alayhi wa sallam) we love them likewise."
Bofawzi you are telling us to go back and look at our history? then you are a hypocrite, why don't you go back to your history and see your fellow Ahlus Sunnah give bayaah to every single caliphah from ummayah to abbassid. They are lost sheep, but shia they give bayah to men of holy bloodline and full knowledge of the sunnah, not relying on scholars with empires behind them. Subhanallah, sometimes i think it is a miracle that we had the safawis on our side.
and what history u relying on ?? haa ! ?? we are the followers of ahul al bait not u graveworshipper we give bayyah to any muslim leader like hassan and ali did !! the safawis are fire worshippers like ur master abu lo'alo'aa al majosi - ur brain washed by ur scholars
you are not understanding me, today Ahlus Sunnah say they are followers of ahlul bayt, but the pious ancestors, the first, second, and third generations did not follow ahlul bayt, they relied on the caliphs to interpret the sunnah of Rasool Allah(sawas) and the ijma'a of the companions. The way of salat the sunni way is that of uthman bin affan, in your books, hadith is transmitted by some nasibi names that imam bukhari said they are trustworthy!!!
If you dont like shia, just keep it to yourself, you dont need to bring hatred between muslims on youtube because it will only serve the israelies and the americans. You are not better then them by doing that.
Yeah? then why dont your leaders support financially Hamas? Because its Iran who is supporting them while your leaders are helping the zionists against them. Why israelies and usa want to attack iran and not the sunni governments? hahahaha, you really make me want to laught, but I cant laught because you dont take yourself seriously
So you reead the mind of the iran government to know that they give millions of $ for cover? wow.. you have a sixth sense? I think you are just jealous that the shia do more to help the sunni hamas and palestinians so you say a stupidity to make yourself feel better. how pathetic
I wonder now what your othman al khames is thinking or doing for the gaza conflict. or maybe he dont care since it doesnt involve shia and sunnis since his goal is not to help muslims against zionists but to attack the shia. All his life resume to this. What a nice muslim
shekih othman u know whats inside his heart now ?! ha?!! u will be held responsible for that infront of allah - even u are ignorant or using taqqiya about iran !
hahaha. I just have to see his videos to see what is his goal in this life, and that is to attack the shia. I will be held responsible for not liking a hypocrite like othman who brings more tensions and hate between muslims? I know God will judge me for my mistakes and maybe I am going to hell for my sins (inshallah not). but I dont think he will put me in hell because I dont like a hypocrite such as othman or because I follow the descendents of the prophet instead of the ummeyads
Im going to tell you something. Before showing "true face" of shia, he should studie sunni books to see the things that are written in it. Like the fact that Taqiya is approved by sunni books. Like the fact that according to your books, verses of the Quran are missing.........
he studied the books of sunna my friend - taqqiya is mentioned in the state of danger before death - and dont lie , nothing is mentioned about verses of quran is missing and if its indeed mentioned its a weak riwaya ( naration ) we dont approve it and scholars dont approve it - and maybe u understood it with your wrong understanding because u are shiites and u dont believe that the quran is complete may allah guide you
Ali bin Salam narrates from his father who asked Imam Jafer Sadiq (as) "O descendant of Prophet (S). What are your views on the Qur'an? Imam Jafer (as) replied 'the Qur'an is Allah's book; it contains commands of Allah; sent by Allah. It is not subject to alteration, neither can anyone claim that it has been changed, nor has anyone ever made such a claim.
yes i know that - and thats what the muslims believe - but i asked u what do think about the one who says that the quran is modified or missing or not complete ?
no my friend - there is no wrong understanding for these kind of things - because its known from the basis of islam - يقول الله سبحانه و تعالى " انا نحن نزلنا الذكر و انا له لحافظون "
I dont read alot arabic. But I saw the word rafisi for title so I assume its an anti shia wahabi page. I dont understand alot when I read arabic. I cant really analyse this site.
"taqqiya is mentioned in the state of danger before death"
The same for us. Taqiya is allowed in the state of danger, not for no reason, only for protection. I think such comments on the quran are mentionned in al bukhari or muslim, I dont remember wich one of the 2.
no the shia version of taqiya is any time anywhere just to fulfil your goals - what kind of state of danger when u live between muslims and lying to them ? in the cover of taqiyaa - second of all do u speak arabic ? why are we negotiating in english ?
Its like you judge people and say they do bad while you are badder then them. Thats what I dont like about him. Its that he can judge the shia without looking at his own books.
this guy speaks about al kafi but why dont he check al bukhari and the non sense that is in it. He doesnt make sense. How can people like him be scholars.
there is no nonsense in bukhari - how can somo body like u or like mute sistani be scholars then ? ha ??!! just putting tyres on my head doesnt mean im a scholar !!!
I dont follow sistani. I am not a scholar but you really should be stupid to believe the stupidities the man in the video say. What I meant is that the guy in the video speaks about al kafi without looking at his own books first. Before dissing somebody, look at yourself, that is the lesson he should learn.
Muslims will never win against zionists as long as people think like him. Look at Iraq what happened in ashoura when a woman exploded herself to kill like 30 shia people. Is this islam??? It makes me angry to see muslims killing other muslims while the israelies are killing palestinians. The only ones helping israel are not americans but MUSLIMS like the guy in this video. See how the majority of muslims are stupid. And who is this majority? shia or sunnis?
the true enemy is the one who worship other than allah and claims to be muslim , and kill muslims in iraq like shia do to sunnas in the name of islam , and believe that the quran is modified , these are the true enemy !
Go learn about shia and then speak you smelly hypocrite. We worship only Allah. We believe the Quran is 114 soura. Our scholars say so. Go read your own books and see how YOU (sunnis) THINK the Quran was modified. As for Iraq, just look at what happened in ashoura. You are the true ennemies of islam and the killers of the people who cry for the tragedie of ahlul bayt. Allahu Akbar. La ilaha ilallah. Go will judge the hypocrites.
i wouldnt post something like this unless i have read about shias!! get back to history and u will see from where u came from wnd what are ur origins - ur scholars say that quran is muharraf and modified so dont blame us with something u are blamed of !! i will not forgive u in judgment day when allah get us together and ask us about this converstation because u blamed me of being hypocrite , remmember this converstation!
those scholars said the quran we have is the one from Allah. Shaykh Saduq, Sayyid Murtaza Alam ul-Huda, Muhammad Ridha Mudhaffar, Shaykh Abu Ja'far Musawi, Shaykh Muhammad Hussein Kashif, Shaykh Ja'far Kashif, Muhammad Hussein Tabatabai,etc. You hypocrites are liars and invent lies against the shia.
what about nimat allah al jaza'irey ? and waht about nor al deen al tobresy ? !! haa?? a lot of shiites scholars said that the quran is modified - are u ignorant or using taqqiya ?!!
I dont know them. But there are sunni scholars who wont match your opinions either. According to some of YOUR hadiths, the quran was modified so it wont make me feel better to be a sunni. Remember on thing. The shia has the same Quran that you have. THE SAME. And we believe in it 100%
Shaik saduq said: "Our belief is that the Qur'an which Allah revealed to His Prophet Muhammad is (the same as) the one between the two covers (daffatayn). And it is the one which is in the hands of the people, and is not greater in extent than that. The number of Surah's as generally accepted is one hundred and fourteen ...And he who asserts that we say that it is greater in extent than that, is a liar."
yazid brought his army against hussein (as). The people (shiites) who betrayed him did it to join the sunni side (yazids side) since he was your caliph and master, so...
no my friend i presented the hadiths to you.. you make the judgement we have many more in our books but of course if i present them to you u would not take them to credit these are your hadiths so you ask your scholars.. or you make your judgement they are there in your books NUMEROUS times not once or twice this is not a made up narration if more than one person is narrating the same story.. just use logic..
i am going to court in 2 weeks for giving a 16 year old muslim a kurby (making him bite the kurb then stomping on the back of his head) and i do not believe this was a crime because you people are scum and disgust me
i don't understand why shia insult Abu Bakr and Omar(may Allah be pleased with them) because they are the one to spread islam to them with the help of Allah!!!
because the sahaba is the ones who opened iran (persia) and freed them from worshiping fire < so they are jealous from arabs how they defeated them a long time ago , they want revenge so they cover it with the cover of shaism
Umar said 'Give bayya to 'Abu Bakr and enter into that which the majority of the Ummah has agreed to.'
Ibn Abd Rabbah al-Malik in his book Iqd al Fareed Volume 3 page 283 states:
"Those that were opposed to the bayya of Abu Bakr were 'Ali, Abbas, Zubayr and Sa'd bin Ubada, amongst whom 'Ali and Abbas were sitting in the house of Fatima. At that time Abu Bakr sent Umar with the order 'that you remove those gathered in the house of Fatima, and if they refuse to come out then kill them'.
Umar brought fire to the door and Fatima said 'Ibn Khattab have you arrived in order to set my home on fire?'. Umar replied 'I have come with the intention that you people give bayya to Abu Bakr as others have done".
The most renowned Sunni historian Ibn Jareer al Tabari also recorded this event. We read in al Tabari Volume 9 page 187:Ibn Humayd - Jarir - Mughirah Ziyad b. Kulayb:Umar Ibn al-Khattab came to the house of Ali. Talha and Zubair and some of the immigrants were also in the house.
Umar cried out: "By God, either you come out to render the oath of allegiance, or I will set the house on fire." al-Zubair came out with his sword drawn. As he stumbled (upon something), the sword fell from his hand so they jumped over him and seized him."
Sharh Kushaiji page 407 under the chapter Mubais Imamate as follows
"Abu Bakr sent Umar when Ali had refused to give bayya to Abu Bakr. Umar went with fire and this caused Fatima distress as a result of which she suffered a miscarriage".
Tareekh Abul Fida Urdu translation by Maulana Karrem'ud Deen al Hanafi pages 177-179
"Then Abu Bakr sent Umar bin Khattab with the objective that those 'people gathered in the house of Fatima and Ali come out, and that if anyone objects to coming out then you should fight them'. Hadrath Umar approached with fire in his hands to set the house ablaze. At this point Hadhrath Fatima approached and said 'Would do you dare, Ibn Khattab? Do you wish to set my home on fire?
u want to know why? read your history... or just read my comments just below those are ALL SUNNI HADITH FROM SUNNI BOOKS YES SUNNI!! NOT SHIA HADITH!!!
excuse me before u post any thing be aware what is the level of the riwaya ( narration ) is saheh (right) or dha'eef (weak) its called isnad - check with the scholars of islam what did they say about this narrations please
المسلمين السنه أمة ... والشيعة طائفه صغيره متمرده على الإسلام وآل البيت براء مما يفعلونه بهم
saleh4441 11 months ago
Also, they have to think about this...how can they propagate Islam by saying such false things? It's like destroying the foundations of a building and expecting it will not fall.
TheAmazingFacts 1 year ago
Shiaism is not a religion or even a sect which broke away from Islam but it is a Fithna mongering group .of deviants.
AdorIslam 2 years ago
kinda funny how u diss and now wana unite. god cursed the hypocrites and they sure will burn in hell
Aloosh12 2 years ago
There are two islamic religions, Shia and Sunnis.
What matters between these two religions is that they can live side by side as Christians and Jews do.
Shiite have the right to think that Koran has been forged as Christians think that Muhammad was a pagan worshiper and as Muslim think that the bible was altered.
but it does not help co-existence between these two religion that one curses the apostles of the other religion.
based on mutual respect, they can live together.
alfalfafalafelmafia 2 years ago
shias are followers of shiasm, period ,they have allah and beside allah they have 12 gods, who they give divine attribute to these 12 gods, shiasm has total of 13 gods, for shia to be muslim first he has to stop giving divinity of inffalability to 12 imams , but shia will never leave this ideology. hence they are not muslim, they follow shiasm.
quickfixyz 2 years ago
soo tru and well explained
skooch2012 2 years ago
Mhm there is only one God... no muslim believes and 12 gods get your freeking facts right. I can insult your ignorant belief as well. Sunni's don't give Zakaat they give Sudoko, only because they have no to give it to. You believe in people who murdered the prophets family to gain power. They wanted power for money, while Ali was to follow what Allah wanted. They did what they wanted take the power, the Zakaat, the political descisions... You idiot, you have no ilm because abu bakar had none...
Coolioitbro 2 years ago
Coolioitbro, do not insult Abu Bakr (ra), as he was the maternal great grandfather of Imam Ja'far As-Sadiq (rahimahu-llah), and he is the Freed Slave of Allah from the Fire as the Prophet (saw) gave him the glad tidings of it.
And Sunnis are commanded to give Zakat as all Muslims are, because it is stated so in the Qur'an. Any statement otherwise is made out of ignorance. Finally, you don't have it within your power to curse, nor are you the possessor of great knowledge, so fear Allah.
donAntony87 2 years ago
♥ Abu Baker Al-Sedeeq♥♥ Al-Sahaba♥
♥ Umar ibn al-Khattab♥♥ Al-Sahaba♥
♥ Uthman ibn Affan♥♥ Al-Sahaba♥
♥Ali ibn Abi Talib♥♥ Al-Sahaba♥
And hold fast all together to the rope of God, and never be divided. (3:103)
Basel17 2 years ago 2
it would be a disgrace to her if she said that? so hes already taken a side of abu bakr over her (as). he said, if she said that, it would be a disgrace to her. shows his opinion of the daughter of the Prophet. Id rather say, if she said that, than i can not respect abu bakr for whoever angered Fatima (as) has angered the prophet (as).
getdatmoney1 2 years ago
Shia aqeedah and Sunna aqeedah can't and will never mix. This is why this scholar is calling all shia to examine their so called 'hadith' books....may Allah guide them so that they love both Ahlul Bayt and the Companions of Muhammad SAW.
AbuMuawwiyah 2 years ago
This is not possible my friend... because those companions weren't companions, but rather traitors waiting for the Prophets death to snatch his power. The only way for them was to kill the prophets family... but they couldn't because Allah is ulmighty.
Coolioitbro 2 years ago
@Coolioitbro So prophet pbuh closest companions, were traitors. So he spend days and days with traitors and murderers. Lol your pathetic.
JasonX2008 2 years ago
why wwould it mix u guys are followers of imams that never existed in prophets lives and u follow caliphs who were hypocrites. history repeats itself look at the cursed arab world; all followers of the hypocrites.
Aloosh12 2 years ago
asalaam aleykum
Questions That Led Shi'a Youth to the Truth
at,.....ww understand-islam net
then clik FITAN-SECT then again clik Rejectionist shia.
wasalaam aleykum
WeBorn2DieAnyTime 2 years ago
Jazakum Allahu khaira for the upload...
Barak Allahu feekum. May Allah reward all that strive for khair, goodness and work on their Eman to gain the mercy and pleasure of Allah.
FreeRefugee 2 years ago
MASHALLAH!!
Unity need to prevail with in Muslims!!
Distorted27 3 years ago
i think that the whole fight is pointless...and it doesnt make sence..it was all based on politics on how shiism started...Sunnis and shia need to both wake up and stop the crap..and stop spreading hate between eachother..
I can feel a war coming..and we wont be together...we will be opposing each other..
Allah is my god.. Mohamed is my prophet..and Islam is my religion...not sunni or shia.. ISLAM! may allah bless you, wo inshallah a2lqaakom fl jana :D ameen yaa rab :)
Leena1950 3 years ago
its funny and sarcastic when such ppl claim to be in support of islam after a thousand four hundred years.. where were they before? how come all the household of the prophet were all salughtered? how is it that at the same time the abbasyid and Ummayad Dynasties took power? the answer is money, power, and greed let must muslims on the wrong path.. Now Mr.Othman is acting and being so confident and courageous, please give me a break!
thexonic 3 years ago
islam then entered its golden age under their rule did they not..
hurahman 3 years ago
not all of the ahl bait where slaughterd and did abu baker (RA) OR umar (RA) ot uthman (RA) or ali (RA) kill them? NO because it was the kafir SHIA that killed most of the ahl bait and the sahaba and even poisoned the prophet (SAAS) get a job SHIA always wanted power but failed coz there where to many sahaba that lived frar away from your lies and corruption.
Hollandtourist1 3 years ago
Jazak'Allah khayr for translating this to english. Masha'Allah, may Allah bless this brother.
"If you are insulting the Companions of the Prophet (sallAllahu 'alayhi wa sallam) I swear by Allah that we love them more than our fathers and mothers and our children and ourselves, also the family of the Prophet (sallAllahu 'alayhi wa sallam) we love them likewise."
Amatullah919 3 years ago 2
barak alla feekm
BoFawzii 3 years ago
fair discussion, wheres tijani response?
Numberoneishere 3 years ago
Bofawzi you are telling us to go back and look at our history? then you are a hypocrite, why don't you go back to your history and see your fellow Ahlus Sunnah give bayaah to every single caliphah from ummayah to abbassid. They are lost sheep, but shia they give bayah to men of holy bloodline and full knowledge of the sunnah, not relying on scholars with empires behind them. Subhanallah, sometimes i think it is a miracle that we had the safawis on our side.
AbuDharrAlGhaffari 3 years ago
and what history u relying on ?? haa ! ?? we are the followers of ahul al bait not u graveworshipper we give bayyah to any muslim leader like hassan and ali did !! the safawis are fire worshippers like ur master abu lo'alo'aa al majosi - ur brain washed by ur scholars
BoFawzii 3 years ago
you are the followers of the people who persecutated ahlul beit. But I still consider you as muslims, even if you are politicaly wrong
ibrahim187 3 years ago
im follower of quran and sunna with the understanding of the pious ancestor of this nation
BoFawzii 3 years ago
you are not understanding me, today Ahlus Sunnah say they are followers of ahlul bayt, but the pious ancestors, the first, second, and third generations did not follow ahlul bayt, they relied on the caliphs to interpret the sunnah of Rasool Allah(sawas) and the ijma'a of the companions. The way of salat the sunni way is that of uthman bin affan, in your books, hadith is transmitted by some nasibi names that imam bukhari said they are trustworthy!!!
AbuDharrAlGhaffari 3 years ago
trustworhty because they dont lie - there are also khawarej trustworthy - there is diffrence between hadith knowledge and approving their religion
BoFawzii 3 years ago
If you dont like shia, just keep it to yourself, you dont need to bring hatred between muslims on youtube because it will only serve the israelies and the americans. You are not better then them by doing that.
ibrahim187 3 years ago
im against the traingle of evil israel america iran
BoFawzii 3 years ago
Yeah? then why dont your leaders support financially Hamas? Because its Iran who is supporting them while your leaders are helping the zionists against them. Why israelies and usa want to attack iran and not the sunni governments? hahahaha, you really make me want to laught, but I cant laught because you dont take yourself seriously
ibrahim187 3 years ago
im not responsible for my govrment - because they dont act in religion - but iran acts in the shiasim cover
BoFawzii 3 years ago
So you reead the mind of the iran government to know that they give millions of $ for cover? wow.. you have a sixth sense? I think you are just jealous that the shia do more to help the sunni hamas and palestinians so you say a stupidity to make yourself feel better. how pathetic
ibrahim187 3 years ago
I wonder now what your othman al khames is thinking or doing for the gaza conflict. or maybe he dont care since it doesnt involve shia and sunnis since his goal is not to help muslims against zionists but to attack the shia. All his life resume to this. What a nice muslim
ibrahim187 3 years ago
shekih othman u know whats inside his heart now ?! ha?!! u will be held responsible for that infront of allah - even u are ignorant or using taqqiya about iran !
BoFawzii 3 years ago
hahaha. I just have to see his videos to see what is his goal in this life, and that is to attack the shia. I will be held responsible for not liking a hypocrite like othman who brings more tensions and hate between muslims? I know God will judge me for my mistakes and maybe I am going to hell for my sins (inshallah not). but I dont think he will put me in hell because I dont like a hypocrite such as othman or because I follow the descendents of the prophet instead of the ummeyads
ibrahim187 3 years ago
his goal is to show the people the true face of the shia religion - hypocrite is not muslim u mean - then allah will judge u for this blaming
BoFawzii 3 years ago
Im going to tell you something. Before showing "true face" of shia, he should studie sunni books to see the things that are written in it. Like the fact that Taqiya is approved by sunni books. Like the fact that according to your books, verses of the Quran are missing.........
ibrahim187 3 years ago
he studied the books of sunna my friend - taqqiya is mentioned in the state of danger before death - and dont lie , nothing is mentioned about verses of quran is missing and if its indeed mentioned its a weak riwaya ( naration ) we dont approve it and scholars dont approve it - and maybe u understood it with your wrong understanding because u are shiites and u dont believe that the quran is complete may allah guide you
BoFawzii 3 years ago
I believe that the Quran is complete
ibrahim187 3 years ago
what do u say about who says that the quran is missing and not complete or modified ? kafir ?
BoFawzii 3 years ago
Ali bin Salam narrates from his father who asked Imam Jafer Sadiq (as) "O descendant of Prophet (S). What are your views on the Qur'an? Imam Jafer (as) replied 'the Qur'an is Allah's book; it contains commands of Allah; sent by Allah. It is not subject to alteration, neither can anyone claim that it has been changed, nor has anyone ever made such a claim.
Amali-al-Shaykh Saduq, Page 545, Published Iran
ibrahim187 3 years ago
yes i know that - and thats what the muslims believe - but i asked u what do think about the one who says that the quran is modified or missing or not complete ?
BoFawzii 3 years ago
yes
ibrahim187 3 years ago
did u know that khomiene said that the quran modified ?
BoFawzii 3 years ago
it depend if you understood it wrong like you told me before.
ibrahim187 3 years ago
no my friend - there is no wrong understanding for these kind of things - because its known from the basis of islam - يقول الله سبحانه و تعالى " انا نحن نزلنا الذكر و انا له لحافظون "
BoFawzii 3 years ago
show me proof
ibrahim187 3 years ago
يقول الله سبحانه و تعالى " انا نحن نزلنا الذكر و انا له لحافظون " هل تريد دليل اكثر من هذا ؟ من انكر هذا الكلام فهو كافر
BoFawzii 3 years ago
I dont see the point
ibrahim187 3 years ago
I want the proof that khomeini said so
ibrahim187 3 years ago
the link cannot be posted here i will send it private
BoFawzii 3 years ago
I dont read alot arabic. But I saw the word rafisi for title so I assume its an anti shia wahabi page. I dont understand alot when I read arabic. I cant really analyse this site.
ibrahim187 3 years ago
"taqqiya is mentioned in the state of danger before death"
The same for us. Taqiya is allowed in the state of danger, not for no reason, only for protection. I think such comments on the quran are mentionned in al bukhari or muslim, I dont remember wich one of the 2.
ibrahim187 3 years ago
no the shia version of taqiya is any time anywhere just to fulfil your goals - what kind of state of danger when u live between muslims and lying to them ? in the cover of taqiyaa - second of all do u speak arabic ? why are we negotiating in english ?
BoFawzii 3 years ago
Its like you judge people and say they do bad while you are badder then them. Thats what I dont like about him. Its that he can judge the shia without looking at his own books.
ibrahim187 3 years ago
I just saw in news he forbids internet for woman. hahahahahahaha. What gives him the right to go to internet while women cant? ahahahahahaha.
ibrahim187 3 years ago
what news ? ah ok u are bankrupting now - u dont have nothing to say - i understand dont worry
BoFawzii 3 years ago
this guy speaks about al kafi but why dont he check al bukhari and the non sense that is in it. He doesnt make sense. How can people like him be scholars.
ibrahim187 3 years ago
there is no nonsense in bukhari - how can somo body like u or like mute sistani be scholars then ? ha ??!! just putting tyres on my head doesnt mean im a scholar !!!
BoFawzii 3 years ago
I dont follow sistani. I am not a scholar but you really should be stupid to believe the stupidities the man in the video say. What I meant is that the guy in the video speaks about al kafi without looking at his own books first. Before dissing somebody, look at yourself, that is the lesson he should learn.
ibrahim187 3 years ago
Muslims will never win against zionists as long as people think like him. Look at Iraq what happened in ashoura when a woman exploded herself to kill like 30 shia people. Is this islam??? It makes me angry to see muslims killing other muslims while the israelies are killing palestinians. The only ones helping israel are not americans but MUSLIMS like the guy in this video. See how the majority of muslims are stupid. And who is this majority? shia or sunnis?
ibrahim187 3 years ago
the true enemy is the one who worship other than allah and claims to be muslim , and kill muslims in iraq like shia do to sunnas in the name of islam , and believe that the quran is modified , these are the true enemy !
BoFawzii 3 years ago
Go learn about shia and then speak you smelly hypocrite. We worship only Allah. We believe the Quran is 114 soura. Our scholars say so. Go read your own books and see how YOU (sunnis) THINK the Quran was modified. As for Iraq, just look at what happened in ashoura. You are the true ennemies of islam and the killers of the people who cry for the tragedie of ahlul bayt. Allahu Akbar. La ilaha ilallah. Go will judge the hypocrites.
ibrahim187 3 years ago
i wouldnt post something like this unless i have read about shias!! get back to history and u will see from where u came from wnd what are ur origins - ur scholars say that quran is muharraf and modified so dont blame us with something u are blamed of !! i will not forgive u in judgment day when allah get us together and ask us about this converstation because u blamed me of being hypocrite , remmember this converstation!
BoFawzii 3 years ago
those scholars said the quran we have is the one from Allah. Shaykh Saduq, Sayyid Murtaza Alam ul-Huda, Muhammad Ridha Mudhaffar, Shaykh Abu Ja'far Musawi, Shaykh Muhammad Hussein Kashif, Shaykh Ja'far Kashif, Muhammad Hussein Tabatabai,etc. You hypocrites are liars and invent lies against the shia.
ibrahim187 3 years ago
what about nimat allah al jaza'irey ? and waht about nor al deen al tobresy ? !! haa?? a lot of shiites scholars said that the quran is modified - are u ignorant or using taqqiya ?!!
BoFawzii 3 years ago
I dont know them. But there are sunni scholars who wont match your opinions either. According to some of YOUR hadiths, the quran was modified so it wont make me feel better to be a sunni. Remember on thing. The shia has the same Quran that you have. THE SAME. And we believe in it 100%
ibrahim187 3 years ago
Shaik saduq said: "Our belief is that the Qur'an which Allah revealed to His Prophet Muhammad is (the same as) the one between the two covers (daffatayn). And it is the one which is in the hands of the people, and is not greater in extent than that. The number of Surah's as generally accepted is one hundred and fourteen ...And he who asserts that we say that it is greater in extent than that, is a liar."
ibrahim187 3 years ago
get back to my history? You should go back to your history, follower of muawiya and yazid, the persecutors of ahlul beit
ibrahim187 3 years ago
the killers of hussien is his shiites - i told u get back to history - i dont follow yazid and i dont like him but i dont curse him either
BoFawzii 3 years ago
yazid brought his army against hussein (as). The people (shiites) who betrayed him did it to join the sunni side (yazids side) since he was your caliph and master, so...
ibrahim187 3 years ago
hussien was sunni u ignorant
BoFawzii 3 years ago
no, he followed the sunna of the prophet, like the shia follow the sunna of the prophet by following his familly. He was not a "sunni".
ibrahim187 3 years ago
thats what i meant by sunni - may allah guide u
BoFawzii 3 years ago
we follow the sunna of the prophet
ibrahim187 3 years ago
im sunii
wa do shihas beliv ?
PSPhelp2008 3 years ago
Asalam Alaikum,
To my brothers Belonging to both (Ahle Shia and Ahle Sunnat) Please read about each others before u start commenting.I request u people to read
"
Al-Muraja'at - A Shi'i Sunni Dialogue
"
And then u will know wat Muslim Ulema(Both Ahle shia and Ahle Sunnat)Think about Each other. With prayers for ur Success!!!
maaias 3 years ago
no my friend i presented the hadiths to you.. you make the judgement we have many more in our books but of course if i present them to you u would not take them to credit these are your hadiths so you ask your scholars.. or you make your judgement they are there in your books NUMEROUS times not once or twice this is not a made up narration if more than one person is narrating the same story.. just use logic..
aabidali 3 years ago
please - if u dont have knowledge in hadith levels - do not speak again my friend
BoFawzii 3 years ago
IM WITH U
yasminaawad 3 years ago
i am going to court in 2 weeks for giving a 16 year old muslim a kurby (making him bite the kurb then stomping on the back of his head) and i do not believe this was a crime because you people are scum and disgust me
gothinboots 3 years ago
Go watch some American history X you nerd. You wont do jack shit. Everyone is a tough guy on the internet. Coward in real life.
Eye0fTheStorm 3 years ago 2
هذه المواد اسلحة دمار شامل لدين الرافضه
جزى الله خيرا كل من قام بها
kongsau 3 years ago 2
i don't understand why shia insult Abu Bakr and Omar(may Allah be pleased with them) because they are the one to spread islam to them with the help of Allah!!!
adamou78 3 years ago 2
because the sahaba is the ones who opened iran (persia) and freed them from worshiping fire < so they are jealous from arabs how they defeated them a long time ago , they want revenge so they cover it with the cover of shaism
BoFawzii 3 years ago
Umar said 'Give bayya to 'Abu Bakr and enter into that which the majority of the Ummah has agreed to.'
Ibn Abd Rabbah al-Malik in his book Iqd al Fareed Volume 3 page 283 states:
"Those that were opposed to the bayya of Abu Bakr were 'Ali, Abbas, Zubayr and Sa'd bin Ubada, amongst whom 'Ali and Abbas were sitting in the house of Fatima. At that time Abu Bakr sent Umar with the order 'that you remove those gathered in the house of Fatima, and if they refuse to come out then kill them'.
aabidali 3 years ago
Umar brought fire to the door and Fatima said 'Ibn Khattab have you arrived in order to set my home on fire?'. Umar replied 'I have come with the intention that you people give bayya to Abu Bakr as others have done".
The most renowned Sunni historian Ibn Jareer al Tabari also recorded this event. We read in al Tabari Volume 9 page 187:Ibn Humayd - Jarir - Mughirah Ziyad b. Kulayb:Umar Ibn al-Khattab came to the house of Ali. Talha and Zubair and some of the immigrants were also in the house.
aabidali 3 years ago
Umar cried out: "By God, either you come out to render the oath of allegiance, or I will set the house on fire." al-Zubair came out with his sword drawn. As he stumbled (upon something), the sword fell from his hand so they jumped over him and seized him."
Sharh Kushaiji page 407 under the chapter Mubais Imamate as follows
"Abu Bakr sent Umar when Ali had refused to give bayya to Abu Bakr. Umar went with fire and this caused Fatima distress as a result of which she suffered a miscarriage".
aabidali 3 years ago
Tareekh Abul Fida Urdu translation by Maulana Karrem'ud Deen al Hanafi pages 177-179
"Then Abu Bakr sent Umar bin Khattab with the objective that those 'people gathered in the house of Fatima and Ali come out, and that if anyone objects to coming out then you should fight them'. Hadrath Umar approached with fire in his hands to set the house ablaze. At this point Hadhrath Fatima approached and said 'Would do you dare, Ibn Khattab? Do you wish to set my home on fire?
aabidali 3 years ago
u want to know why? read your history... or just read my comments just below those are ALL SUNNI HADITH FROM SUNNI BOOKS YES SUNNI!! NOT SHIA HADITH!!!
aabidali 3 years ago
excuse me before u post any thing be aware what is the level of the riwaya ( narration ) is saheh (right) or dha'eef (weak) its called isnad - check with the scholars of islam what did they say about this narrations please
BoFawzii 3 years ago
Do some (or all)of them say the Quran has been falsified? 8-/
fromkhadija 3 years ago
Jazakallah khair. That's really good that you made the effort to translate this, masha'Allah
Juwayriyyah20 3 years ago 2
بارك الله فيك اتمنى ان تكثر من هكذا عمل مترجم
shaltak 3 years ago 2