(continued from below) - We see lots of wreckage in Queens with flight 547. Tons of wreckage. In the Pentagon we see nothing. One little letter C from American Airlines on scrap metal which was proven to be about half the size of the one on a 757. Can't really understand what hit the Pentagon that day. Help me out with this.
@frankiebones01 i owned a condo in belle harbor in `01 on 124st on the beach. had from `89-`02. that plane came down on 127, if memory serves me correctly. So i knew alot of peeps that were there at that ground zero too. not guna open another can of worms about that one. theres alot of vids out there trying to show conspiracies. it no hard to facilitate. Coincidences are easily manipulated. and something as horrific as 9/11 there are bound to be many to be misconstrued. But the fact remains..
@frankiebones01 para2) we were attacked by crazy extremists.usa underestimated the attack in 93. thinkin it was home grown nuts. our country and our city is the beacon for what all strive to be. shit, i saw some crazy vids sayn some crazy shit. but this is usa, and we allow that. its easy to make a straight line and turn it into a figure 8. and outa 9/11,a bunch of conspirators had a field day. and there are enough gullible people out there to strech it. and i see u still on the fringe..
@frankiebones01 para3) about what happened. but at least u sayin we wuz attcked. stay away from all these wackado vids. they are like lookin at car wrecks. u have to look. anyway, im done w/ this `debate`. it got off point to easily. touchy subject i know. and whats funny now is u sayn u lived in belle harbour. i only lived in my condo for 3 years `89-92. then i went back to city and kept condo for weekends. i know mad peeps from over there. and u livin there in `01 u knew how breezy pt took it.
@NYOLSKOOL - I lived on B129. Plane came down hard and left lots of wreckage. Stuff you wont find at the Pentagon or Flight 93 in PA. Then there is the Thermite evidence in the South Tower, the bizarre fire drills in August 2001, The Norad war games going on when the actual hijackings took place. BBC reporting building 7 fell while it was still standing. Larry Silverstein's admitting to tell the FDNY to "Pull It". If someone could explain just these things to me, I'd appreciate it.
And I would love to air out my experiences to 9-11 as I lived them. Not as a truther, just as a normal New Yorker. I lived in Belle Harbor in Rockaway until 2001. A plane crashed on my block on November 12, 2001. Just two months after 9-11. Youtube dot com slash watch?v=rNPLBBxyOnQ. What I saw was huge chunks of plane engines and debris. Littered the neighborhood. The FBI made everyone return to their homes and not leave unless it was for a medical emergency.
this one is interesting and I have no idea who this guy is to judge him as a truther or not. Youtube dot com slash watch?v=6H0X-7sDwZE. It's what he says about NORAD and the war games that were going on during 9-11 and on 9-11. Just by chance? It's hard to believe.
But it wasn't one fireman. And at least we agree on Rudy being a moron. I know two airplanes hit the towers. I never said the government was involved in that. I believe there was hijacked airplanes with the towers. I know building 7 was impacted by the falling north tower. But that building was massive. It was a very strong structure. There is no way that building was stressed to the point of collapse. I'll link a couple of videos and you can correct me if I am wrong.
I am not a truther, again. I just make sense out of obvious things nobody talks about. Maybe I'm a senser? Cause I make sense of things. Building 7 did not fall because it was impacted by the north tower. If it did, why did Silverstein tell the NYFD to "Pull It". How could they "Pull It" if it wasn't pre-wired? Yeah, I'm a Senser, not a truther.
@frankiebones01 u gota understand when them the towers fell it was like an earthquake. the integrity of all building on complex was in peril. as i said i saw the flames in that building from when planes hit. it was a matter of time. the first plane came in from the north. buildin 7 was to the north,so when debris and fuel fell it dumped on #7. im guna go and erase my comments from other page..suggest u do the same.
Look fellah's we needed to continue this argument away from that Planet Rock topic and this whole 9-11 argument and truther name calling bullshit need to be put where it might make sense. That is if it was indeed true. It's not though. I actually believe everything the government told us about 9-11. So indeed I am not a truther. The problem is everything the government DIDN'T tell us, that I have a problem with. You need to understand that.
In the end, we were able to debunk each of these assertions with hard evidence and a healthy dose of common sense. We learned that a few theories are based on something as innocent as a reporting error on that chaotic day. Others are the byproducts of cynical imaginations that aim to inject suspicion and animosity into public debate. Only by confronting such poisonous claims with irrefutable facts can we understand what really happened on a day that is forever seared into world history.
To investigate 16 of the most prevalent claims made by conspiracy theorists, POPULAR MECHANICS assembled a team of nine researchers and reporters who, together with PM editors, consulted more than 70 professionals in fields that form the core content of this magazine, including aviation, engineering and the military.
Rudy was another arrogant fuck. in `93 the `bunker` was already there. it got damaged in first bombin. so when he made desion to redo bunker he wanted tp `prove` to terrorists that he aint scared. other city officals wanted bunker closer to city hall. but rudy was adamant about keepin down in trade center complex. as for motorola radios, where is there a conspiracy. to go back to a decision in `99 just proves a dim witted decision. i hate rudy just as much as any NY`r, but to think he ..
@NYOLSKOOL - Your tone starts to change when I point out the obvious. If you have a car by Toyota that gives you a problem, would you ever buy another one? Hell no. So why would the NYFD allow new Motorola radios to replace the old ones? That fireman wasn't hitting it to get the dust out. He was hitting it cause he knew the radio wasn't working properly. Dust or not.
@frankiebones01 get off those back handed comments. what do u mean my tone changes when u point out obvious. this is 1 fuckn fireman. maybe his radio juist got damaged. i know the was crazy beef after about radios but that had nothing to do what transpired that day in the begining. it was after the fact. im not guna get into it over radios. like i says, rudy was a moron. maybe he did cut corners 2 save money and stuck w/ motorolas. but that had nothing to do w/ what happened.
Anyone living in NYC before 9-11-01 knows the mayor, Rudy was at an all time low in popularity because he was 20 million over budget making his "Bunker" in building 7, bomb-proof. All the evidence about the Motorola radio scam from 1999 was in that building. This video is proof beyond means that the Motorola radios DID NOT WORK. Body language. Look at how the guy punches the radio to make it work. You can't make this sh*t up. 343 FDNY brothers died on 9-11. On Rudy's watch.
@frankiebones01 wanted to kill these hero fireman is B.S. and i knew that buildin 7 was guna go down after second tower fell. i was watchin from greenwich st looking right at #7. it became engulfed in flames. inside. im not getting what u tryn to prove here. faulty radios, a moron mayor?? and there had to be close to 1000 fd pd pa all on those radios that day. maybe overload had something to do w/ it. ur lookin at one guy on radio. this proves nothing.
You see how the fireman keeps punching his Motorola radio? Why does nobody question Guiliani's 1999 decision to exchange faulty Motorola radios proven by the fact that the NYFD had trouble with Motorola radios in the 93 bombing, with new broken Motorola radios? When Ford had problems with Firestone tires, did they change them with new ones? No. Good Year. 343 Firemen might be alive today if they just would have gave the NYFD new radios from a different company.
(continued from below) - We see lots of wreckage in Queens with flight 547. Tons of wreckage. In the Pentagon we see nothing. One little letter C from American Airlines on scrap metal which was proven to be about half the size of the one on a 757. Can't really understand what hit the Pentagon that day. Help me out with this.
frankiebones01 1 year ago
@frankiebones01 i owned a condo in belle harbor in `01 on 124st on the beach. had from `89-`02. that plane came down on 127, if memory serves me correctly. So i knew alot of peeps that were there at that ground zero too. not guna open another can of worms about that one. theres alot of vids out there trying to show conspiracies. it no hard to facilitate. Coincidences are easily manipulated. and something as horrific as 9/11 there are bound to be many to be misconstrued. But the fact remains..
NYOLSKOOL 1 year ago
@frankiebones01 para2) we were attacked by crazy extremists.usa underestimated the attack in 93. thinkin it was home grown nuts. our country and our city is the beacon for what all strive to be. shit, i saw some crazy vids sayn some crazy shit. but this is usa, and we allow that. its easy to make a straight line and turn it into a figure 8. and outa 9/11,a bunch of conspirators had a field day. and there are enough gullible people out there to strech it. and i see u still on the fringe..
NYOLSKOOL 1 year ago
@frankiebones01 para3) about what happened. but at least u sayin we wuz attcked. stay away from all these wackado vids. they are like lookin at car wrecks. u have to look. anyway, im done w/ this `debate`. it got off point to easily. touchy subject i know. and whats funny now is u sayn u lived in belle harbour. i only lived in my condo for 3 years `89-92. then i went back to city and kept condo for weekends. i know mad peeps from over there. and u livin there in `01 u knew how breezy pt took it.
NYOLSKOOL 1 year ago
@NYOLSKOOL - I lived on B129. Plane came down hard and left lots of wreckage. Stuff you wont find at the Pentagon or Flight 93 in PA. Then there is the Thermite evidence in the South Tower, the bizarre fire drills in August 2001, The Norad war games going on when the actual hijackings took place. BBC reporting building 7 fell while it was still standing. Larry Silverstein's admitting to tell the FDNY to "Pull It". If someone could explain just these things to me, I'd appreciate it.
frankiebones01 1 year ago
And I would love to air out my experiences to 9-11 as I lived them. Not as a truther, just as a normal New Yorker. I lived in Belle Harbor in Rockaway until 2001. A plane crashed on my block on November 12, 2001. Just two months after 9-11. Youtube dot com slash watch?v=rNPLBBxyOnQ. What I saw was huge chunks of plane engines and debris. Littered the neighborhood. The FBI made everyone return to their homes and not leave unless it was for a medical emergency.
frankiebones01 1 year ago
this one is interesting and I have no idea who this guy is to judge him as a truther or not. Youtube dot com slash watch?v=6H0X-7sDwZE. It's what he says about NORAD and the war games that were going on during 9-11 and on 9-11. Just by chance? It's hard to believe.
frankiebones01 1 year ago
But it wasn't one fireman. And at least we agree on Rudy being a moron. I know two airplanes hit the towers. I never said the government was involved in that. I believe there was hijacked airplanes with the towers. I know building 7 was impacted by the falling north tower. But that building was massive. It was a very strong structure. There is no way that building was stressed to the point of collapse. I'll link a couple of videos and you can correct me if I am wrong.
frankiebones01 1 year ago
watch?v=6H0X-7sDwZE
I am not a truther, again. I just make sense out of obvious things nobody talks about. Maybe I'm a senser? Cause I make sense of things. Building 7 did not fall because it was impacted by the north tower. If it did, why did Silverstein tell the NYFD to "Pull It". How could they "Pull It" if it wasn't pre-wired? Yeah, I'm a Senser, not a truther.
frankiebones01 1 year ago
@frankiebones01 u gota understand when them the towers fell it was like an earthquake. the integrity of all building on complex was in peril. as i said i saw the flames in that building from when planes hit. it was a matter of time. the first plane came in from the north. buildin 7 was to the north,so when debris and fuel fell it dumped on #7. im guna go and erase my comments from other page..suggest u do the same.
NYOLSKOOL 1 year ago
Look fellah's we needed to continue this argument away from that Planet Rock topic and this whole 9-11 argument and truther name calling bullshit need to be put where it might make sense. That is if it was indeed true. It's not though. I actually believe everything the government told us about 9-11. So indeed I am not a truther. The problem is everything the government DIDN'T tell us, that I have a problem with. You need to understand that.
frankiebones01 1 year ago
I say we all get together and smoke a joint....
NYCMH 1 year ago
In the end, we were able to debunk each of these assertions with hard evidence and a healthy dose of common sense. We learned that a few theories are based on something as innocent as a reporting error on that chaotic day. Others are the byproducts of cynical imaginations that aim to inject suspicion and animosity into public debate. Only by confronting such poisonous claims with irrefutable facts can we understand what really happened on a day that is forever seared into world history.
NYCMH 1 year ago
To investigate 16 of the most prevalent claims made by conspiracy theorists, POPULAR MECHANICS assembled a team of nine researchers and reporters who, together with PM editors, consulted more than 70 professionals in fields that form the core content of this magazine, including aviation, engineering and the military.
NYCMH 1 year ago
haah..and looking at other vids this guy posted..he a jew hater. he tryn to start shit...
NYOLSKOOL 1 year ago
and when u see him first hit radio, u see all that dust come out of it. maybe thats why radios didnt work.
NYOLSKOOL 1 year ago
Rudy was another arrogant fuck. in `93 the `bunker` was already there. it got damaged in first bombin. so when he made desion to redo bunker he wanted tp `prove` to terrorists that he aint scared. other city officals wanted bunker closer to city hall. but rudy was adamant about keepin down in trade center complex. as for motorola radios, where is there a conspiracy. to go back to a decision in `99 just proves a dim witted decision. i hate rudy just as much as any NY`r, but to think he ..
NYOLSKOOL 1 year ago
@NYOLSKOOL - Your tone starts to change when I point out the obvious. If you have a car by Toyota that gives you a problem, would you ever buy another one? Hell no. So why would the NYFD allow new Motorola radios to replace the old ones? That fireman wasn't hitting it to get the dust out. He was hitting it cause he knew the radio wasn't working properly. Dust or not.
frankiebones01 1 year ago
@frankiebones01 get off those back handed comments. what do u mean my tone changes when u point out obvious. this is 1 fuckn fireman. maybe his radio juist got damaged. i know the was crazy beef after about radios but that had nothing to do what transpired that day in the begining. it was after the fact. im not guna get into it over radios. like i says, rudy was a moron. maybe he did cut corners 2 save money and stuck w/ motorolas. but that had nothing to do w/ what happened.
NYOLSKOOL 1 year ago
Anyone living in NYC before 9-11-01 knows the mayor, Rudy was at an all time low in popularity because he was 20 million over budget making his "Bunker" in building 7, bomb-proof. All the evidence about the Motorola radio scam from 1999 was in that building. This video is proof beyond means that the Motorola radios DID NOT WORK. Body language. Look at how the guy punches the radio to make it work. You can't make this sh*t up. 343 FDNY brothers died on 9-11. On Rudy's watch.
frankiebones01 1 year ago
@frankiebones01 wanted to kill these hero fireman is B.S. and i knew that buildin 7 was guna go down after second tower fell. i was watchin from greenwich st looking right at #7. it became engulfed in flames. inside. im not getting what u tryn to prove here. faulty radios, a moron mayor?? and there had to be close to 1000 fd pd pa all on those radios that day. maybe overload had something to do w/ it. ur lookin at one guy on radio. this proves nothing.
NYOLSKOOL 1 year ago
You see how the fireman keeps punching his Motorola radio? Why does nobody question Guiliani's 1999 decision to exchange faulty Motorola radios proven by the fact that the NYFD had trouble with Motorola radios in the 93 bombing, with new broken Motorola radios? When Ford had problems with Firestone tires, did they change them with new ones? No. Good Year. 343 Firemen might be alive today if they just would have gave the NYFD new radios from a different company.
frankiebones01 1 year ago