Can you Baha'is find me some Baha'i teacher who doesn't proclaim himself to be a compulsive masturbator. (I speak of this waitoah guy). It grosses me out to talk to him. Masturbators are not qualified to discuss religion.
@BookOfFlaws Since I started at you, you have evolved from a perfect example of passive aggressive behavior, to a
1 fanatic — n a person whose enthusiasm or zeal for something is extreme or beyond normal limits
2 hypocrite-N a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings.
Your achievement? To convince me of the validity of this Faith.
This "Beauty of Baha'i" actually has a sacrilegious title. Baha'u'llah clearly referred to himself as the "Beauty." Plus "Beauty of Baha" and a other beauties It is clear from his attitude toward himself that he would not want Baha'is calling their buildings "beauty of Baha'i." In Christian terms it'd be like calling a pretty church cathedral "the Son of God" or "Christ." Goes to show Baha'is don't have genuine religious attitude toward their founder. Some little steeple top gets to rip him off.
@DivineFellowship Oh don't be picky, not everyone is as bright as you are.
Now.I am coming to the conclusion that this Faith is the right way, after much dialogue with you and alas I may have to change my ways. By the righteousness of the Lord! Ye were created to show love one to another and not perversity and rancour. Baha'u'llah.
Not sure I am up to that yet, but you may have won the battle. Certainly not the war. This stuff, not yours, is starting to make absolute sense to me.
Indeed, you are a loose cannon on the Baha'i deck. Interpreting anything is mordantly discouraged in the Baha'i F. Only the "guardian" can do that and he's dead.
Thus if 'Glory of God' says:
"He has sent down some commandments in order that the Most High Pen may not move in this Manifestation except at the remembrance of His Most High Stations and his Exalted Spectacle"...
...you're on your own. In the Baha'i F. it's not OK to seek meaning or sense in these many fulminations They're for mood.
"Proof that proper interpretation is absolutely necessary."
Baha'is disparage interpretation. They say nobody should interpret. Are you aware of that? I heard it all the time in the Baha'i Faith. "Hatred"? I have no hatred for any religion. You use hyperbole simply because you are recoiling painfully from a little stout criticism. In the Baha'i La-La land of sweetness-and-light and bromides, you are not used to criticism or serious religious study. You're like a Baha'i'. May as well join.
Waitoad wants me to know all about him. He's lonely. Call a pychic hotline.
Who taught me the Baha'i Faith? First, Baha'is influenced by the Baha'i marketing machine. It was when I got into the actual writings very deeply, and especially when I found the "Most Holy Book" (long before it was supposed to be translated) that I learned the most. The Baha'i "Most Great Book" was the true eye-opener about what the Baha'i Faith actually is/was, as contrasted to the "progressive" marketing package.
@DivineFellowship Proof that proper interpretation is absolutely necessary. I am becoming fascinated at your hatred of this Faith, like it or lump it is normal but you have gone a bit crazy about it. Have you ever considered moving to Iran, and perhaps a career as a prison warder? Then you could really let your hatred boil over. Worth considering.
I was very active in the Baha'i Faith for over 15 years. My statements about it come from inside experience and much observation of Baha'is. Not mere "assumptions."
@DivineFellowship You really don't get it. Your assumptions are about me being a nice polite Baha'i. Wrong. When I read your statements as you loosely refer to them as, I am puzzled as to who taught you the Faith, because I find them at odds to what is true.
Baha'is are WAY too focused on the material world, showing off their buildings, etc. They were birthed in conflicts at their core. Every stage of involved conflicts, extending to murder. Presently there are about 10 sects of Baha'i, all at odds.
SectsOfBahais●Com
This is even with the most known group, the "Heterodox Baha'is, of Haifa, exercising draconian information control and suppression of the other groups.
I think Reform Baha'is are more in the spirit of the founders.
@SacredWord The statement that Baha'i's are too focused on the material world seems an odd one here, given that You Tube is a visual experience. Is it unusual to show the material side of the Faith of God on this site? There areplenty of Prayers and homilies and Laws and advice for improving one self, and thereby the world, for for you to read, some of them are in the comments here. There are many other You Tube sites giving prayers if you want them.Google the others if you wish.
@waiotahi52 -- This is a worthy response and one of the few intelligent arguments I've seen from Baha'is (as contrasted to their usual boilerplate teaching slogans). Is this the guy who swore at me with the "f" word in another thread? I would have answered this, given that it has a little validity. But I will not converse with a profane person.
I didn't even realize the Baha'i Faith contained profane persons.
@waiotahi52 I have invented a new word, youtubeassumptionism....to assume you know the enemies beliefs.Now all the Baha'is I know are either too polite, or are trying to be, and will not engage with you. Yours and Flaws and duck taco attack on this Faith is an attack on them and they are my friends and I have no qualms about dishing it out. So bring it on, I am old retired and bored, and I can say what I want to you idiots, they won't. They are too nice :-)
-that they go with no food week out of the time how about them let say we are on trip and come TO time for our lunch and they asking to share than can we tell them wait let me eat and than my kids if any left i give you probably no we share becuse we are human so my say is how GOD that in Bible and Quran in many verses saying poor first or share same time than why (if this book from HIM)he is putting them last and forbid others not to give to who ask? and many other verses is oposit order of GOD
yes but man is very gridy you ask man why you dont help the poor he say the same thing he is helping near reletive, Quran say bring the poor to your family and ALI said for mouth of poor dont make turn that exactly what we see in Aghdas "you eat than feed your close reletiv THAN poor and homless , and sadly also we see Bahaulla forbed helping who ask you for food he reasening so they can go to work like somone say i dont have bred we say to him go eat cake there is people in africa that they-
In book of Aghdas Baha'ullah said:feed your family first than if you have more give them to your relative than if any left give that to poors.(in fasting rule section)poor say to him oh my glory Baha thanks for all your left over LoL, please don't get angry that is in Baha most hooly book of Aghdas look up is there , Jesus said give everything you have to the poor so you can walk in to kingdom of God ,not your left over,i guss Baha son of royalty couldn't feel what is mean to be hungry and down.
Baha'u'llah was known as the father of the poor. His wife was known as the mother of consolation due to her caring for the poor. He was imprisoned and lived on scraps for years. His teaching is similar to Mother Theresa - take care of those nearest too you first, then reach out farther into the world. Or, to put it in a mundane way - put your oxygen mask on first when on a plane then assist the person next to you. If you do not care for those to whom you owe the first duty, who will?
@hedayatullah9 actually Baha'u'llah said almost exactly the same thing as Jesus in another place.
"O SON OF MAN!
Bestow My wealth upon My poor, that in heaven thou mayest draw from stores of unfading splendor and treasures of imperishable glory. But by My life! To offer up thy soul is a more glorious thing couldst thou but see with Mine eye."
Stunning visual illustration of this powerfully inspiring song! Refreshingly professional production values, too.
I gather that Martin Paige is the composer of the song, correct?
Who are the musicians?
Is this song available on an album?
I'm an ordained Unitarian Universalist minister who - two years running - had the privilege of speaking at the local celebration of the Bahai Founder's birthday to show the multi-faith orientation of your religion.
Thanks so much for the kind words! The album this song is on is titled "The House of Stone & Light". You are correct Martin Page is the composer. The ending sequence has one of my favorite of Baha'u'llah: "So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth." Thanks again!
Can you Baha'is find me some Baha'i teacher who doesn't proclaim himself to be a compulsive masturbator. (I speak of this waitoah guy). It grosses me out to talk to him. Masturbators are not qualified to discuss religion.
Send some better Baha'i teachers here, please.
BookOfFlaws 1 month ago
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@BookOfFlaws Since I started at you, you have evolved from a perfect example of passive aggressive behavior, to a
1 fanatic — n a person whose enthusiasm or zeal for something is extreme or beyond normal limits
2 hypocrite-N a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings.
Your achievement? To convince me of the validity of this Faith.
You nil, Baha'i Faith? everything.
As-Salāmu `Alaykum
waiotahi52 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
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This "Beauty of Baha'i" actually has a sacrilegious title. Baha'u'llah clearly referred to himself as the "Beauty." Plus "Beauty of Baha" and a other beauties It is clear from his attitude toward himself that he would not want Baha'is calling their buildings "beauty of Baha'i." In Christian terms it'd be like calling a pretty church cathedral "the Son of God" or "Christ." Goes to show Baha'is don't have genuine religious attitude toward their founder. Some little steeple top gets to rip him off.
DivineFellowship 1 month ago
@DivineFellowship Oh don't be picky, not everyone is as bright as you are.
Now.I am coming to the conclusion that this Faith is the right way, after much dialogue with you and alas I may have to change my ways. By the righteousness of the Lord! Ye were created to show love one to another and not perversity and rancour. Baha'u'llah.
Not sure I am up to that yet, but you may have won the battle. Certainly not the war. This stuff, not yours, is starting to make absolute sense to me.
Game on!
waiotahi52 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
Indeed, you are a loose cannon on the Baha'i deck. Interpreting anything is mordantly discouraged in the Baha'i F. Only the "guardian" can do that and he's dead.
Thus if 'Glory of God' says:
"He has sent down some commandments in order that the Most High Pen may not move in this Manifestation except at the remembrance of His Most High Stations and his Exalted Spectacle"...
...you're on your own. In the Baha'i F. it's not OK to seek meaning or sense in these many fulminations They're for mood.
DivineFellowship 1 month ago
"Proof that proper interpretation is absolutely necessary."
Baha'is disparage interpretation. They say nobody should interpret. Are you aware of that? I heard it all the time in the Baha'i Faith. "Hatred"? I have no hatred for any religion. You use hyperbole simply because you are recoiling painfully from a little stout criticism. In the Baha'i La-La land of sweetness-and-light and bromides, you are not used to criticism or serious religious study. You're like a Baha'i'. May as well join.
DivineFellowship 1 month ago
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waiotahi52 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
You're the one who says he's not a Baha'i, right? So where do you get off interpreting Baha'i scripture for us?
DivineFellowship 1 month ago
Waitoad wants me to know all about him. He's lonely. Call a pychic hotline.
Who taught me the Baha'i Faith? First, Baha'is influenced by the Baha'i marketing machine. It was when I got into the actual writings very deeply, and especially when I found the "Most Holy Book" (long before it was supposed to be translated) that I learned the most. The Baha'i "Most Great Book" was the true eye-opener about what the Baha'i Faith actually is/was, as contrasted to the "progressive" marketing package.
DivineFellowship 1 month ago
@DivineFellowship Proof that proper interpretation is absolutely necessary. I am becoming fascinated at your hatred of this Faith, like it or lump it is normal but you have gone a bit crazy about it. Have you ever considered moving to Iran, and perhaps a career as a prison warder? Then you could really let your hatred boil over. Worth considering.
waiotahi52 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
I was very active in the Baha'i Faith for over 15 years. My statements about it come from inside experience and much observation of Baha'is. Not mere "assumptions."
DivineFellowship 1 month ago
@DivineFellowship You really don't get it. Your assumptions are about me being a nice polite Baha'i. Wrong. When I read your statements as you loosely refer to them as, I am puzzled as to who taught you the Faith, because I find them at odds to what is true.
waiotahi52 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
Baha'is are WAY too focused on the material world, showing off their buildings, etc. They were birthed in conflicts at their core. Every stage of involved conflicts, extending to murder. Presently there are about 10 sects of Baha'i, all at odds.
SectsOfBahais●Com
This is even with the most known group, the "Heterodox Baha'is, of Haifa, exercising draconian information control and suppression of the other groups.
I think Reform Baha'is are more in the spirit of the founders.
ReformBahai●Org
SacredWord 3 months ago
@SacredWord The statement that Baha'i's are too focused on the material world seems an odd one here, given that You Tube is a visual experience. Is it unusual to show the material side of the Faith of God on this site? There areplenty of Prayers and homilies and Laws and advice for improving one self, and thereby the world, for for you to read, some of them are in the comments here. There are many other You Tube sites giving prayers if you want them.Google the others if you wish.
waiotahi52 1 month ago
@waiotahi52 -- This is a worthy response and one of the few intelligent arguments I've seen from Baha'is (as contrasted to their usual boilerplate teaching slogans). Is this the guy who swore at me with the "f" word in another thread? I would have answered this, given that it has a little validity. But I will not converse with a profane person.
I didn't even realize the Baha'i Faith contained profane persons.
DivineFellowship 1 month ago
@DivineFellowship I never said I was a good Baha'i, and I will defend it against attack.
waiotahi52 1 month ago
@waiotahi52 I have invented a new word, youtubeassumptionism....to assume you know the enemies beliefs.Now all the Baha'is I know are either too polite, or are trying to be, and will not engage with you. Yours and Flaws and duck taco attack on this Faith is an attack on them and they are my friends and I have no qualms about dishing it out. So bring it on, I am old retired and bored, and I can say what I want to you idiots, they won't. They are too nice :-)
waiotahi52 1 month ago
Ez egy álom!!!!
hudarti 10 months ago
@hudarti Ez szép!
spool26 9 months ago
Good job Spool26!
focuskid100 1 year ago
unity and reason .....thanks
scrappylor 2 years ago
HERE is Bahaulla's words in Arabic:
اللّيالی و الايّامالبهآء ان يطعموا فيها انفسهم و ذوی القربی ثمّ الفقرآء و المساکين
word "soom" means than
and im open to listen what Baha'i has to say and please don't think what you say is GOD say dont be GOD ,bring GODs word to explain.
hedayatullah9 3 years ago
-that they go with no food week out of the time how about them let say we are on trip and come TO time for our lunch and they asking to share than can we tell them wait let me eat and than my kids if any left i give you probably no we share becuse we are human so my say is how GOD that in Bible and Quran in many verses saying poor first or share same time than why (if this book from HIM)he is putting them last and forbid others not to give to who ask? and many other verses is oposit order of GOD
hedayatullah9 3 years ago
@hedayatullah9 What??
waiotahi52 2 months ago
yes but man is very gridy you ask man why you dont help the poor he say the same thing he is helping near reletive, Quran say bring the poor to your family and ALI said for mouth of poor dont make turn that exactly what we see in Aghdas "you eat than feed your close reletiv THAN poor and homless , and sadly also we see Bahaulla forbed helping who ask you for food he reasening so they can go to work like somone say i dont have bred we say to him go eat cake there is people in africa that they-
hedayatullah9 3 years ago
In book of Aghdas Baha'ullah said:feed your family first than if you have more give them to your relative than if any left give that to poors.(in fasting rule section)poor say to him oh my glory Baha thanks for all your left over LoL, please don't get angry that is in Baha most hooly book of Aghdas look up is there , Jesus said give everything you have to the poor so you can walk in to kingdom of God ,not your left over,i guss Baha son of royalty couldn't feel what is mean to be hungry and down.
hedayatullah9 3 years ago
Baha'u'llah was known as the father of the poor. His wife was known as the mother of consolation due to her caring for the poor. He was imprisoned and lived on scraps for years. His teaching is similar to Mother Theresa - take care of those nearest too you first, then reach out farther into the world. Or, to put it in a mundane way - put your oxygen mask on first when on a plane then assist the person next to you. If you do not care for those to whom you owe the first duty, who will?
MamaLaw66 3 years ago
@hedayatullah9 actually Baha'u'llah said almost exactly the same thing as Jesus in another place.
"O SON OF MAN!
Bestow My wealth upon My poor, that in heaven thou mayest draw from stores of unfading splendor and treasures of imperishable glory. But by My life! To offer up thy soul is a more glorious thing couldst thou but see with Mine eye."
rsll1986 1 year ago
Stunning visual illustration of this powerfully inspiring song! Refreshingly professional production values, too.
I gather that Martin Paige is the composer of the song, correct?
Who are the musicians?
Is this song available on an album?
I'm an ordained Unitarian Universalist minister who - two years running - had the privilege of speaking at the local celebration of the Bahai Founder's birthday to show the multi-faith orientation of your religion.
Blessings!
Lovingly,
Lauralyn
LauralynBellamy 3 years ago 6
Thanks so much for the kind words! The album this song is on is titled "The House of Stone & Light". You are correct Martin Page is the composer. The ending sequence has one of my favorite of Baha'u'llah: "So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth." Thanks again!
spool26 3 years ago 2
@LauralynBellamy You were greatly priveledged to speak on that occasion.
Beulah502 9 months ago
very nice, thanks
jorj119 3 years ago