patted down at traffic stop because of GCO sticker

[hievery1policehateme]

GCO is the best will ((ALWAYS STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS!))

[diggingforgold]

"They are a good organization... just got some weirdos in it I guess".

So choosing to remain silent and not cooperate with police as they try to find you guilty of a crime is being weird now?

[SwatSniperMTC]

thought cops were suppose to be fit?

[NikolaTeslaJohnGalt]

A communist Chinese once asked why Americans are so in love with guns, to which the response was given well how else do you think the Brits were ran out twice? And if the Chinese did not have privileges, but rights, like the 2nd. right to keep & bear arms, maybe Tienanmen Square never would have happened?

[NikolaTeslaJohnGalt]

Yes he might be right about organizations, they might have some weirdos in them, like police departments?

[outlawracer2229]

George Carlin said it best: "We don't have rights. We have privileges which the goverment can suspend anytime they want."

[Aethan001]

That is a fat cop. This has to be a small town without fitness reqs for their department.

[dawino6260]

Heck... the first part they did wrong hassling you over a sticker.... 'course that second part.... Yeah... They tend to call 20 backup units for a kid with a pack of rolling papers anymore

[akmrmike]

Land of the free?

[bigharold11]

How did you get that video?

[MayonR]

@bigharold11 public record

[diggingforgold]

@bigharold11

You can make a Freedom of Information Act request. They have to supply you with it by law if you request it.

[chieftp]

holy shit that's one morbidly obese cop!!!! I'm guessing he doesn't do many foot chases?

[jmhwspmusic]

I see there are no physical fitness requirements for that department.

[Stalicone]

I can't believe this fat fuck is allowed to be a patrol officer. Doesn't the Sandy Springs PD have any physical fitness standards for their patrol officers? I mean LOOK AT HIM! He is a disgrace! If I was the Chief, I would take him off patrol duty and assign him to a desk until he dropped about 150 lbs...He is a threat to the safety of his brother LEO's in the event of a real dangerous situation. He certainly would not be able to render assistance, engage in a foot pursuit, etc....

[fmnma1]

That, is a ton of donuts.

I find it interesting that law-enforcement wants to stop a 'right to carry' law. You see, they want communism, not democracy. China, is the vision of the government. Not only are citizens not allowed to have guns, but they dictate what their lives should turn out to be. I have a feeling, everyone of us here is against that. Yet, we still have to have our ID's (papers) at check points, and obey every command we are given, or be arrested. We, are losing our liberties!

[kingcobra5352]

@BoulevardFan28 I guess that would mace sense, with those cities being closer to Atlanta, I guess. I work in Alpharetta but I've never been pulled over there before. 90% of my time is spent in the Hall/Dawson/Forsyth Counties area. Most cops are pretty chill up here.

[kingcobra5352]

@BoulevardFan28 I understand that. The cops in the general area of where I live are pretty lax. I've been pulled and I told the cop I had a gun and he said "Meh, as long as you don't pull it on me, I don't care."

[BoulevardFan28]

@kingcobra5352 That surprises me. Generally Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Alpharetta, Milton, Dunwoody seem pretty by the book, but to each officer their own I suppose.

[kingcobra5352]

@BoulevardFan28 Sorry, you are 100% wrong. Carrying a gun in the state of Georgia is not probable cause for a pat down, nor do they have a right to disarm you.

[BoulevardFan28]

@kingcobra5352 Hundreds of officers have been killed in shootings on traffic stops. I am not, of course, saying you have any ill intentions. Please understand, however, that many do. I'm merely saying that if they discover that you are armed they will request that you relinquish your weapon temporarily for officer safety. The pat-down is less common, but is allowable if you consent.

[fmnma1]

@kingcobra5352

Agreed! If there is an 'open carry law' in your State, then how does law enforcement have any right to disarm you, at anytime? 100 percent completely agree with you, and people should read this comment, as it's factual, not an opinion. The right to 'open carry' is an important one, it insures the control factor is equal. We certainly don't need anymore rouge cops!

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

Once you get in your car 'open carry' becomes 'consealed carry'.

[fmnma1]

@RetSquid

I'm not talking about getting in your vehicle etc., I'm talking about simply being on the street. I am not quite sure you are correct about being in your car, with a concealed weapon bit. I don't think police officers have to get 'concealed permits' to carry their firearms on their waists. All you have to do is inform the officer you are 'carrying' a weapon. Your conceal bit, is false! Open carry, is a right of which does not require a permit, concealing does. 

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

Even in open carry states, once in a vehicle it is concealed because it is not in plain sight for anyone to see. Police don't need a CCW to carry while on duty. Many States require a permit to carry, open or concealed.

[fmnma1]

@RetSquid

Not the States that have open carry laws. I say, make them all 'open carry rights' that way - the PIGS wont feel so powerful anymore. As for he crap about once in the car... wrong!

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

Where I live, any weapon in a vehicle is a concealed weapon. Many places required the firearm to be unloaded and secured in a vehicle in the person does not have a CCW.

[fmnma1]

@RetSquid

Right. However, typically if on a state-highway, the laws pertain to 'your' state depending on where you live, hence interstate highways. In anycase, We are talking about 'open carry' not your required permit for a concealed weapon.

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

Right, but in many States, open carry or not, a weapon in a car is a 'concealed weapon'. The laws on the interstate are the laws of whatever State it is in.

[fmnma1]

@RetSquid

Whatever state 'you' reside in. For instance, if a woman is breastfeeding her child, while driving, and gets pulled over because it's illegal in that state she is 'in', she becomes exempt, because in her state it's legal to do so.

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

No, you are subject to all the laws of the State you are in, not any others.

[fmnma1]

@RetSquid

Nope! I am referring to the 'open carry' laws, not the conceal ones. Look up 'open carry' as a 'general law', then get back to me.

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

It doesn't matter what your State laws are when you are in a different State.

[fmnma1]

@RetSquid

LOL... I'm obviously arguing with some kid, or something. Yes, if I was to 'open carry' and it's legal in my state to do so, I would have to check if traveling to another state, to see if it was also legal there. You're dealing with a firearm, that's common sense. If your on an interstate, the laws in my state apply, while traveling. That's because say i95, covers a vast geographical layout. That means, that is a federal issue, not a state one. Open carry, not conceal!

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

Your 'breastfeeding' example says the exact opposite of this post. If your State has open carry and you travel to California, you cannot open carry, simple as that.

[fmnma1]

@RetSquid

By the way, I'm so bored with this moronic conversation you have tried to debate, I can't remember your point? You started with once in a vehicle open carry becomes concealment. I have tried to explain if you have the right to open carry, then simply inform the law enforcement member who pulls you over, for whatever reason. They are, and should be aware of the law *open carry*. They simply don't want open carry because of the power and control they lose over citizens, by legalities.

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

If you havde a weapon in a car, many places consider that 'concealed carry'. The laws on any interstate are the laws of the State it is in, the laws of your State (if different) do not apply. The actual act of transporting a gun in a vehicle is covered by state and federal laws.

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

There is no Federal open carry law, so only the State you are phsyically in has the right to say whether you can open carry or not, not your 'home' State. Open carry laws don't follow you around the country.

[fmnma1]

@RetSquid

Again, and for the last time, so you are clear... On the interstate, those state laws do NOT apply (said it at least 3 times)!

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

Again, it does not matter WHAT road you are on, the laws of the State you are in, not the one you are from, apply to you.

Why would one State's laws apply in another one?

[fmnma1]

@RetSquid

And that is what I have TRIED to explain to you, YES it does! 'The law of the state you are in' ROFLL

Here is what you do... Call the non emergency number for 'your' state police... Then, ask them if state laws apply on the interstate if you're traveling from another state. They DON'T... But he may say 'it depends'... The reason why it matters is because the 'Fed' still holds power over the State, that's why it maters, and prevents states from passing statues against the Constitution.

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

You seem to be VERY confused. All State laws apply within that State, you don't take your State's laws with you when you travel, nor does the interstate protect you from that State's laws. Just because you are on an interstate highway does not give jurisdiction to the Federal government.

[fmnma1]

@RetSquid

I have no idea why you even contacted me. Contact your state police, tell them you have a friend who doesn't have insurance but you realize it's required in your state. So, whats your buddy do? Does he get insurance for 'one weekend' because it's 'required by law' in your state? You do realize not every state requires vehicles to have insurance? So, explain to me how its possible they drive to a state that 'requires insurance, when their state does not. Another duh?

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

"I have no idea why you even contacted me."

Because you were wrong about open/concealed carry in a car.

Nice try, but if he registers that vehicle in that State, THEN it requires insurance. Totally different idea than gun laws. The State you are traveling through has jursidiction of you and your actions, but not the vehicle registered in another State.

[fmnma1]

@RetSquid

I'm not wrong... I simply stated, if I was to travel from one state to the next etc., without insurance, even though it's required in most states, if it's not required in mine, I don't have to have it while visiting another state. I also never said anything about open/carry in a vehicle, you did. If you were a woman, and letting your baby suck on your tit while driving, if it's illegal in the state, however your on the interstate, it's legal! Look it up, already happened. The idiocy! 

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

"however your on the interstate, it's legal!"

Then post the case citing.

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

"If there is an 'open carry law' in your State, then how does law enforcement have any right to disarm you"

This video is about guns and a vehicle can you put the two together?

[fmnma1]

@RetSquid

Again, never said that. I said depending on if you're on an interstate 'it may matter', that's what I said... Why keep rearranging what I said? It's pointless. I noticed you didn't comment on the insurance, etc (other law) in regards to your comment 'if it's law in your State, it's illegal no matter what) which of course isn't the case! Any other questions?

[RetSquid]

@fmnma1

Stop lying, that is a direct quote from you--> "Agreed! If there is an 'open carry law'..."--fmnma1 1 week ago

Insurance and vehicle registration go with your home State. Where is the breast-feeding case you claim exists?

[MrTonvis]

@RetSquid This may be out of context but here in Georgia you are only required to have one tag( ( on the back of your vehicle) in other states, New Jersey for instance they require two tags(One on the front and one on the back) Are you saying i could be fined for not having a front tag if i go to visit my mom ?

[RetSquid]

@MrTonvis

Again, that is vehicle registration, not traffic laws in general. The State you are traveling through does not have jurisdiction over how a vehicle is registered in another State, the DO have jurisdiction over you and your actions.

[yoyo762]

@fmnma1 This is a good point to fight.

Your rights cannot be held against you so the cop saying he had a right to carry sticker is not reason to search him. The cop was holding his right against him. That is unconstitutional. Its the same as holding his right to remain silent against him. Saying he won't answer questions is not a reason to escalate against him.

[fmnma1]

@yoyo762

lol... Good point, however most know this point. Your civil liberties, regardless of 'supposed' to not be violated, are still violated by law enforcement on a daily-basis. What's even better(?), they lie in the report about what you did, or didn't do if you dare defy them. Defiance is now a capital crime (i.e cop kills woman for rolling down window).... Your 'rights', are being picked apart by politicians. Also, law enforcement, doesn't give a shit about them!

[maggot4life912]

and they should

[kingcobra5352]

@BoulevardFan28 Here in Georgia, the cops have no authority to pat you down or search just because you have a firearm.

[BoulevardFan28]

@kingcobra5352 No, they have a right to maintain officer safety, which overrides your right to deny a pat-down under suspicion of possessing one on your person.

[BoulevardFan28]

You are putting this up why? The police pulled you over for speeding, and then he notices you support right-to-carry gun rights. Thats fine, but OFFICER SAFETY COMES FIRST. Ask anybody, and they'll tell you they have been removed from a vehicle for officer safety reasons. Hell, I have. Furthermore, he never called for backup, they simply came on their own as cover cars, since there were 2 separate traffic stops right beside eachother. I'm not sure why you think your rights were violated.

[jttudor19]

The problem here, regardless of what anyone thinks about the police, is that you were clearly not cooperating with an investigation. This investigation was not criminal, however for officer safety. So complain all you want but the officer did nothing wrong. Why don't you just say "yes I have a handgun in the car." with a carry permit, you probably would have been asked where it was and to keep you hands away from it during the stop. you took a small thing and made it more than it needed to be.

[jttudor19]

I don't see the problem with asking if he has any weapons. If you tell him your not going to answer that question, then it seems to me that you are being evasive... prompting a pat down... which was piss poor by the way. Terry Vs Ohio states that an officer can preform a "pat down" of the outer layer of clothing to check for weapons. By not answering his question about the firearms, you gave him reasonable suspicion to believe you may be armed, which is all that is required under Terry V Ohio.

[BudtheMainah]

Hey Jerk Off... How about talking about off duty life OFF DUTY! focus on the gentleman that you pulled over. 

[TRUEGATOR1]

Just walk away at a brisk pace and i am willing to bet he would not be able to catch you. That is a shame for that department. I am not trying to make fun of law enforcement by any means but he is a slob!!

[debifeb]

where did that hogzilla come from

[YokoWenis]

It's easier to notice someone speeding before a little window sticker, that's secondary.

[lucymo1000]

@5:50 THE COPS ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BUMPER STICKER AND ASKS THE OTHER COP," IS IT A MILITIA STICKER OR SOMETHING?" WHAT ASSES.

THEY HAVE BEEN SO INDOCTRINATED BY THE NAZI DEPT HOMELAND SECURITY WHO TEACHES ABSOLUTE HATRED. THEY INDOCTRINATE HATE INTO THESE OFFICERS.

IT SPEWS FROM THE FEMA INSTRUCTORS MOUTH, IN THEIR TRAINING THROUGH THEIR CLASSROOM TEACHINGS!

SEE THE VIDEO>>"FEMA SAYS FOUNDING FATHERS TERRORISTS"

[NotSoSpecialForces]

I have always let the Georgia officers know the I have a weapon when they ask, but they hardly ever do, and when they have, I've never had a problem. They've never even asked to see it or for me to get out of my vehicle. They have always shown support for the 2nd Amendment. At least that's been my experience in North Metro Atlanta area.

[MountainManAaron]

3:45 Cops weight sends a shock wave through the car as he re enters

[Cybersniper6]

That cop looks like John Pinet! and I mean no offence to John Pinet either...

[visika630]

THAT POLICE JUST WANT TO BE SEEN ON YOUTUBE...AHAHAHAH..

[Snipe4261]

If I were stopped by an LEO I would hand them my CWL with my DL. I have no problems informing an LEO that I'm exercising my right to carry and I believe that doing so builds good will between CWL holders and the police but at the same time I don't believe anyone should be required to disclose their CW. Officers safety doesn't trump a citizens gaurenteed legal rights, they have to coexist however they can. A sticker, refusal of consent to search, or invoking the 5th aren't probable cause.

[barelyillegal79]

@Snipe4261 letting a LEO know that you have a gun in the car will mean that the LEO now has a right to search the area of the car that you say the gun is in. He may find other things. Let's say, for example, you have some asprin in a plastic bag in the console where LEO is now allowed to search b/c you said a gun was there. Now he has probable cause to detain on suspicion those asprins are Ecstacy, or at least do a full blown search of your entire vehicle. Trust me, I know!

[Snipe4261]

@barelyillegal79 I don't keep a concealed weapon in my car. I do keep a concealed weapon on my hip. Even if the police chose to examine the weapon, they would only be able to frisk me. Besides, I don't ever have illegal drugs or anything else illegal in my possession anyway. While I wouldn't be happy about having my car searched as it would be a waste of everyone’s time, I wouldn't be concerned about it either. Do you not keep asprin in an asprin bottle?

[barelyillegal79]

@Snipe4261 Not everyone carries the same all the time. The asprin was just an example, but, as has been said to death by others so I'll say this only once, there are so many things that one cannot immediately know of that a cop might see as reason to suspect or detain: "I don't have anything to hide, so what's wrong with a search?" is never the way to go. Not everyone keeps their car as clean as you might, and not everyone knows what items may or may not lead to further problems.

[Snipe4261]

@barelyillegal79 I'm not suggesting that I would ever consent to a warrantless search (I wouldn't) and I do try to avoid doing anything that would give the police reasonable suspicion to do one anyway. I'm also not suggesting that I would tolerate an illegal search to go uncontested in court. I don't assume a position of mistrust by default because the police are subordinate to the law but I also know that there are police officers that don't know their job or the law so I'm always wary.

[NotSoSpecialForces]

@barelyillegal79 what might happen, is lest say you tell a LEO you have a pistol in the glove box, and lest say it's legal in the state. The officer might ask "is it ok if I check it" or something to that effect. If you say yes, that is not an illegal search. If you say no, that's your right and it's his right to ask you to step out of the car and give you a ticket for whatever he pulled you over for. With that said different states have different laws so check your local ones.

[NotSoSpecialForces]

@barelyillegal79 it is not true that informing a LEO of a firearm in one's vehicle gives them the right to search the vehicle. At least not in Georgia, where this video was taken. There are only two ways a LEO can search your car without consent. 1 when your being arrested and or impounding of your car. 2 when there is probable case of a crime. Since it is legal in this state to have a firearm in your vehicle, there is no evidence of a crime and no search could be conducted.

[gobbly1337]

wow man, they have all sorts of IM's and computer voices going off and stuff, crazy

[monttheshowmods]

@rooksgambit i didnt say search i said frisk, the reason why he can frisk him because he has probable cause that he might has something. And also if he got pulled over if speeding or etc. In the state of Georgia the officer could have just arrested him and then it would have been over.

[peakcomp0621]

I know if I was a cop and I asked if there was a weapon in the vehicle and you refused to say yes or no..I would most certainly get u out and do a pat down on you for my safety. Also, it is not uncommon for police agencies to automatically have cars enroute to assist on a traffic stop immediately.

[katnap72]

Best thing to do is say nothing! Look at that cop.. my god! I didn't realize a PD could hire such a stacked piece of blubber! Another thing.. if a cop throws on the Christmas tree lights, pull over in a well populated area where there are witnesses present!

[yoyo762]

How many times do lawyers have to tell you that NO response to police questions is the best and only intelligent response??

As soon as the guy opens his mouth to respond, it gives the cop some kind of reason to escalate the situation. The cop can just say his voice wavered and it made me suspicious. Never, never answer any questions and remain silent.

[rfh223]

The officer stated "you know its not against the law to have weapons in the car" . He did not disrespect or treat you unprofessional. He also respected you right not to tell him anything he asked. You were speeding & your tag light was out. walking around your car and looking in is perfectly legal. He did not violate you in any way.The fact that he closed your door and didn't consider it open as a right to search is awesome. I would love to get pulled over by this officer.TRY OSP Ohio

[EverHurt]

When you got out of your car you should have imediately closed and locked your door.

[crgonzalez08]

Hey Daniel, I have a question. How did you get the video from the fat .... sorry the cop car?????

Thank you

[TheZoelzer2]

and the car blows up, the gun sticker was just a decoy lol

[SuperAce009]

what a fat pig

[i5Zero]

Hey Daniel Almond, how about next time a cop asks if your carrying a gun you stop being a fuckin smartass and say "Yes, I am". He knows it's not illegal to carry a weapon in your car in GA. When you answer, "I'm choosing to exercise my right to remain silent on that question" like a little bitch, wtf do you think he's gonna assume? I would assume your packin heat and plan on shooting me in the face. Whats so hard about saying you are if you don't plan on doing anything with it? Fucking idiot...

[swimmermx]

@i5Zero

Because it's his right to remain silent as much as it's the officer's righto be a fat fuck.

[Snyder2112]

@i5Zero

How about the cops aren't fucking God and they don't need to know every goddamn thing about everyone? Is that good enough for you? If not, fuck off.

[1liveandlearn11]

@i5Zero arrest any kids selling lemon aid latly?

[konatown5]

2:51 looking for his probable cause for a car search .

[sidi1234100]

fucking dirty south i m going back to wa. shitty pple here in ga

[WestGAGuy]

I got stopped by Cobb police and he spotted my cocked and locked 1911. Needless to say he pulled me out of my car. After I declined to consent to a search he called 3 other cops and a K9 to gain false probable cause. He then searched my car and found exactly what I had told him he would: NOTHING.

[vandstra]

I have that same sticker on my car.

I hate the license plate light bulb BS. LIke anyone would know the light bulb illuminating the plate is out. Revenue collector with a badge.

[rocdad]

That cop never passed a Donut shop without stopping!

[monttheshowmods]

all you guys are stupid this cop has every right to tell this man to step out the car and frisk him and he didnt search the car and look to see if hecan see a gun from the outside of the car. In sandy springs you can do this

[RooksGambit]

@monttheshowmods No, he really doesn't. As per the 4th Amendment. Seriously, no one is making this shit up, you have the right to NOT BE SEARCHED without due cause. There is ZERO due cause here. Cop saw a sticker that he interpreted to mean the driver was a certain kind of person. The kind of person he wants to falsely assert his authority over, because he has POWER, dammit! This is not a JOKE, man! These are your Rights, and even if it looks reasonable, that doesn't make it legal!

[cockyhemi]

Fat fuckin' pig, completely ignoring his sworn oath to uphold the Constitution.

[1985usa]

Also, what a complete waste of resources. SERIOUSLY. A ton of cops present to give a CCW permit holder a hard time and throw the book at him for a simple speeding ticket. That's your tax dollars hard at work. LOL.

[1985usa]

Normally, I defend LEOs. You should use this video to use against this police officer and to provide in court. He obviously punished you because you chose to exercise your rights to free speech and to bear arms. Not to mention, this officer should be forced to complete retraining and to REPASS his physical fitness exam. That is, if he ever passed in the first place.

[cockyhemi]

Fat pig. Cops look at you as an enemy right away, that's because they are so brainwashed in training. They don't give a damn about your rights period.  Do not consent to any searches without a warrant.

[cockyhemi]

Fat pig.

[ABGAN100]

A clear violation of the law. the officer had no right to search the car with out a search warrant. and probable cause a GCO sticker dose not represent probable cause.

[outlawracer2229]

Although they violated just about every right the guy has, maybe he didn't feel like getting yanked out, slammed face first on the pavement and tased. You can tell by his stance he's pissed.

[Bluto2973]

Good to see the cops are staying in shape.

[poprocz]

Btw, law enforcement is a good organization just has some weirdos in it.

[poprocz]

Idiot for speeding and idiot cop for running his mouth for his opinion and not pure law.

[2204Alpha]

I'm a cop in GA and this was an illegal pat down. The officer must ask for consent to pat you or search you UNLESS its a terry stop (meaning the officer has reason to believe your BOTH armed AND dangerous) or your under arrest. This is taught in the academy. There is no officer safety exception. You cant violate someones rights for officer safety.

You should sue this officer and the department and force them to retrain their officers. You would easily win.

[RedThunder0335]

Why did you choose not to answer wheter you´d be carrying a gun or not?

[2204Alpha]

@RedThunder0335 because its his constitutional right not to.

[acuet]

Side NOTE: In respect to poster and all those watching. Cops DO NOT KNOW all the laws and/or County, State, Federal....CONSTITUTION. This is why YOU should. Remember, 'Ignorance of the Law is not an excuse...'. It appears that this only applies to 'us'.

[glorpjunkid]

With respect, this seems to be mostly perfectly reasonable police behavior. I think the officer deviated from ideal appropriate behavior in fingering something on his belt (his gun?) as he approached your vehicle, and as someone else has pointed out, he failed to touch the rear quarter panel.

It was reasonable for him to ask if you had guns in the car, it was reasonable for him to respond as he did.

Didn't like the "weirdo" characterization; that was unprofessional.

You were reasonable too.

[acuet]

@glorpjunkid I agree, it appears that the officer ask for license (or it was provided)...then it appears that the officer asks, 'Do you have any firearms in the car'? He has a right to ask. Regardless of his personal position on the matter cops will be cocky. Remember, Cops are there to 'serve'....and not 'protect'. Probable cause is that you were 'speeding' and getting pulled over @ 11:00 pm. In some cases, NOT YOU, a thug could have just drumped a whole mag on this peace officer.

[RomeoTangoBravo]

Thank you for posting this video. It is very enlightening.

[Pdogg2010]

What you are complaining about? First off, he didn't pull you over for your little sticker, he pulled you over because you were SPEEDING.

Second, he has every right to ask you to step out of the car, and every right to frisk you for weapons if he feels you might present a threat. GA law allows you to have a weapon in your car, it does not grant you the right to stand there holding your handgun during a traffic stop. I support a citizen's right to carry, but your gun can wait for you in the car.

[2204Alpha]

@Pdogg2010 you obviously don't know the law. Go read Terry v. US. He doesnt claim to be pulled over for the sticker, he says he was FRISKED because of the sticker....which the officer totally makes clear several times. Can you not read? The guy doesn't even argue the reason for the stop or even getting tickets.

[ericx777]

Jeez, look at the way that tight cop suspension shakes every time gets in and out of that patrol car!

Maybe a little more time studying the Constitution & the law (especially that probable cause thing) and less time with the dozen donuts & large pizza!

BTW, I didn't think they made body armor in that size!

Well... someone has to go make money for the state... just wonder how many REAL crimes went down while lardass wrote his moneymakers?

[thecrags]

As Sgt. Hartman would say, this guy is a disgusting fatbody.

[Lochson]

Thanks for sharing. It is an insight into what might happen to any of us.

[boogerhead0]

You can let the mayor, Eva, know what you think about her officer.

eva.galambos at sandyspringsga dot org

[robtakers]

@boogerhead0 Officer was professional in his conduct. He could have cuffed him for his safety while writing the ticket - but chose not to because of his conduct .

[snwmnx]

@robtakers

Do some research. Excercising your 1A does not give a LEO permission to violate your 2A vis a vis violating your 4A.

Case law clearly states when a LEO can pat someone down, and this clearly falls outside of that realm. Being nice while you trounce someone's rights doesn't make it "ok" and the cop should receive training on the law.

No RAS or PC. There was also no reason to suspect that the driver was both armed AND dangerous, as required for a Terry Pat. End of story.

[robtakers]

@snwmnx / What in the hell are you talking about ??

[snwmnx]

@robtakers

He could not have cuffed him, nor was the pat down legal.

I abbreviated the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd amendment via 1A, 2A, 3A for lack of characters.

Generally, it was a refute to you saying, "He could have cuffed him for his safety while writing the ticket..." which was incorrect, and then I cited how the situation did not fit the case law which states that officers can do pat downs to begin with.

Pretty clear, really.

[2204Alpha]

@robtakers your a moron, that would also be totally illegal.

[bartmansan]

The Officer did not follow proper procedure either. Notice that he did NOT touch the rear Quarter Panel of your vehicle when he 1st approached it. They do that to leave a fingerprint incase they shot or the suspect escapes.

[10thmt87]

You made the right call! Any time a police officer asks you a question that could incriminate you, use you right, and refuse to answer.

Example, let's say you answered No I don't have any weapons or guns in the car..but your buddy that was out with you target shooting earlier, left his gun in your back seat. Cop, while making a flashlight search sees it! You will be hauled off to jail for lying to the cop. and then you get to hire a lawyer, cost you a few thousand$

Don't talk to cops!

[10thmt87]

Crap! I have a bumper sticker that says "My other gun is an M1 Garand"

[justgonecrazy71]

Are you serious with this guy. Don't you have to pass some sort of fitness training or something to become a cop in Georgia? Holy crap, this guy is a twinkie away from not fitting through his door to go to work.

Go read the Constitution fat boy.

[dun10001]

SSPD needs a fitness program. If they do have one, he should use it!

[treecowboy1100]

So he calls you a weirdo because you exercised a simple right?

I guess officers have a lot of problems out of GCO members.

I do wish pd and so had some sort of physical standards the way the military does.

[dedicateddad]

I'm usually the LAST one to comment on someone's physical appearance, but...

Am I the only one who can't help noticing the disproportionate number of "only ones" who seem to be ... welll.... calorically challenged?

Seems like maybe Officer Friendly should step away from the donuts, huh?

[fastpat1]

There's a big, fat taxeater that needs his arse kicked, good and hard.