@Beany194508 I've changed my opinion, due to musolo's music knowledge. However your argument holds absolutely no strength. Just because something's played in an Irish pub, does not make it Irish. A lot of English pub sessions have gone awry in recent years, so your statement is no indication.
Furthermore, a lot of Irish songs have direct origins in English songs. Being played in an Irish pub doesn't mean anything, I'm afraid.
@8ightBitKid Proof? There are many who say it's English. I don't know what it is about the Irish and their absolute refusal to accept that something of theirs may have ties to England. It's a very childish attitude. I hate to break it to you, but a lot of the things people consider culturally "Irish" are, in fact, English in origin.
@musosolo My argument was more aimed at the fact people naturally assume this is an Irish tune. Where is the evidence it is? A lot of people say it is English, should that not be enough of a reason to say the source of it is unknown, rather than blindly claiming it to be Irish?
Furthermore, my point stands about the Irish refusing to acknowledge anything they consider their own to have connections to England. This is a very ignorant and backwards view.
@DefeatedElitist Having spent one day a week for many years listening to tunes recorded by Cecil Sharpe at EFDSS, I heard only one English recording by him from a Northumbrian Clog Morris Side. I listened to many, many Irish versions.
In the 18th cent droves of Irish came to England, bringing their tunes and songs with them, and much like the origins or hundreds of tunes, the chances are greater that this is Irish. Far fewer English tunes travelled to Ireland, though some did.
@musosolo That's not solid proof. Any number of those listings could have taken their source from the other. You could say it's Irish, someone would read it, think you were right, and repeat that it was Irish to someone else. It only takes one wrong person to change something.
@musosolo How far back does this go? Even if this is the case, you still have not addressed my point about the Irish refusing to acknowledge that something of theirs may have connections to England. There are still very many "Irish" things that are English in origin.
@musosolo I'm willing to accept that it's Irish, although I still haven't seen you produce solid proof. I'll trust your musical knowledge. However, you still refuse to answer my main point concerning the Irish and their disregard for the English.
Yeah, it's irish.
Heard it played in a million irish pubs, not in english.
Beany194508 1 month ago
@Beany194508 I've changed my opinion, due to musolo's music knowledge. However your argument holds absolutely no strength. Just because something's played in an Irish pub, does not make it Irish. A lot of English pub sessions have gone awry in recent years, so your statement is no indication.
Furthermore, a lot of Irish songs have direct origins in English songs. Being played in an Irish pub doesn't mean anything, I'm afraid.
DefeatedElitist 1 month ago
Nice playing, but this is an English song.
DefeatedElitist 2 months ago
@DefeatedElitist
It's Irish.
musosolo 1 month ago
@musosolo I have sources citing it as English. Wouldn't be the first time the Irish have falsely claimed an English song.
DefeatedElitist 1 month ago
@DefeatedElitist Irish
8ightBitKid 1 month ago
@8ightBitKid Proof? There are many who say it's English. I don't know what it is about the Irish and their absolute refusal to accept that something of theirs may have ties to England. It's a very childish attitude. I hate to break it to you, but a lot of the things people consider culturally "Irish" are, in fact, English in origin.
DefeatedElitist 1 month ago
@DefeatedElitist I think you need to cite your sources to be believable DE. Your argument is just hearsay and unjustified.
musosolo 1 month ago
@musosolo My argument was more aimed at the fact people naturally assume this is an Irish tune. Where is the evidence it is? A lot of people say it is English, should that not be enough of a reason to say the source of it is unknown, rather than blindly claiming it to be Irish?
Furthermore, my point stands about the Irish refusing to acknowledge anything they consider their own to have connections to England. This is a very ignorant and backwards view.
DefeatedElitist 1 month ago
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musosolo 1 month ago
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@DefeatedElitist
OK, we all know you lost your argument so don't dig your hole any deeper DE.
You said it was Irish, it obviously isn't.
The proof is there for everyone to see in all the notations of the tune listed on the net.
We have notations for hundreds of English tunes without having to try to wrestle this one from the Irish
Time to let it go gracefully.
musosolo 1 month ago
@DefeatedElitist Having spent one day a week for many years listening to tunes recorded by Cecil Sharpe at EFDSS, I heard only one English recording by him from a Northumbrian Clog Morris Side. I listened to many, many Irish versions.
In the 18th cent droves of Irish came to England, bringing their tunes and songs with them, and much like the origins or hundreds of tunes, the chances are greater that this is Irish. Far fewer English tunes travelled to Ireland, though some did.
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musosolo 1 month ago
@DefeatedElitist
Check out abcnotation dot co m with a query search for tenpenny bit.
In the first 30 listings there is only one which gives an English origin. The rest are all Irish with a few where the origin is not provided.
musosolo 1 month ago
@musosolo That's not solid proof. Any number of those listings could have taken their source from the other. You could say it's Irish, someone would read it, think you were right, and repeat that it was Irish to someone else. It only takes one wrong person to change something.
DefeatedElitist 1 month ago
@DefeatedElitist
These listings are from collectors who notate the tune, source and origin.
It's you that's making the assumptions, not the collectors.
It's Irish.
Let it go man.
musosolo 1 month ago
@musosolo How far back does this go? Even if this is the case, you still have not addressed my point about the Irish refusing to acknowledge that something of theirs may have connections to England. There are still very many "Irish" things that are English in origin.
DefeatedElitist 1 month ago
@DefeatedElitist
You just can't stand being wrong, can you DE?
It's Irish.
musosolo 1 month ago
@musosolo I'm willing to accept that it's Irish, although I still haven't seen you produce solid proof. I'll trust your musical knowledge. However, you still refuse to answer my main point concerning the Irish and their disregard for the English.
DefeatedElitist 1 month ago
nice one!!
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EspritDeBottineQc 3 months ago
Great version and format for learning. Ta!
freddaly 5 months ago
This is great for the intermediate fiddler to learn different tunes. The view is great. My wife Jen thanks you for posting.
mlharnett 11 months ago
I can't find the notes for the song... ?
MegaLouder 1 year ago
Thanks for the new video Rex! Awesome song. Your style is amazing. Would you consider playing Salt creek and Bill Cheatem on video?
zaleken 2 years ago
Great Video!
itchybuzz 2 years ago
long time no see Rex! haha
5* you really nailed the camera angle :)
NatureLover987 2 years ago
Just a suggestion - perhaps the performance speed should be first? Great video still!
Xerxes4242 2 years ago
I'm first - zero views
MrJoeMaz 2 years ago
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Nobody really cares dude....
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