Napoleonic tactics involved large masses of mounted cavalry kept in reserve and used to break enemy large formations cohesiveness and line of command. Infantry formed in square was routinely used to counter-effect cavalry charges or threat of. Specialized cavalry units like lancers were also developed against squares and retreating infantry. Can't see any trace of this in ACW, which was, TACTICALLY, a late, poor-man, 18th century styled conflict.
If casualties levels are to be taken into account as an 'outdated tactics' marker, then both Wehrmarcht and STAVKA leaders were using 'outdated tactics' on the Eastern front 1941/1945.
The only result loose infantry formations could achieve before the introduction of small automatic weapons was harassing fire. If any battle of the ACW could have been won by using loose formations (which were known back then) only, you can be sure period leaders would have used them more extensively.
1 thing i never understood about civil war plz feel free to ansnwer..... was lincoln a dictator the whoole time or only during the end part when he f*cked over general lee?? us grant good president or drunk??
@supersmash43 Infantry fought in skirmish mode too (several feet between each man) back then but this formation wasn't good for attack or standing defense = not enough firepower per linear yard. Remember best trained riflemen couldn't shoot more than 3 or 4rds per minute with most available rifles. And with battle stress, this figure could go even lower. Imagine 10 skirmishers defending against, or attacking a 50 man shoulder to shoulder formation on a 30 yds frontage...
hi guys to see a new video about the battle of mannasas(the first battle of the civil war) come visit srvztube channel to watch Battle of Manassas reenactment 150th Anniversary.
@srvztube Was that the big reenactment in July? because I was just in Fredricksburg Virginia in July and I heard about a large reenactment for the 150th anniversary but I didn't have time to see Manassas but I went to see some of the other battlefields in Fredricksburg.
We learned our lesson in Civil War, never again would we expend ourselves in that manner. How we fight our wars ever since, is the direct result of those four unfortunate years. We will expend things, not ourselves. A very sad period in American History.
It took so long to load the musket that defenders would work in teams. 1 would fire while 1 or 2 others would load the guns. This specialization meant that each person could get really good at either firing or loading and increase the rate of fire.
for emperorforce - because the head of Army Ordinance thought it would cause the troops to waste ammo and not bother to aim at their target. He also didn't want to have to replace all the rifles he'd issued the troops or deal with the increased amount of ammo they'd need. It didn't matter if battles would be lost or thousands of troops would die who didn't need to - it would be inconvenient for him and cause him more work. (I did a paper on this in college)
The .45 caliber bullet has been rated the most efficient threat-stopper of all time, two or four legged. In the 19th century alone, two revolvers which accounted for the greatest number of dead men on both sides of the law was the Beals models of 1861 and 1875, and of course, the Colt Model 1860 Army. I hit a silhouette target at 200 yards with a double-tap of .45 LC from my Beals revolver. Each of these wounds by themselves would have rendered a real enemy personnel very, very dead.
To join the infantry on both sides during this war, front teeth in good condition is a requirement, because soldiers must bite off the end of the musket's paper cartridges before the gun could be used. If you did not have good front teeth, you would be disqualified at the recruiting desk!
...and if anyone doubts that, remember in the 1960s the majority of Democrats voted AGAINST the Civil rights act. And incredibly blacks still overwhelmingly vote Democrat every election. Sort of like if Jews voted for Nazis. It's incredible how they are brainwashed, how Democrats now keep them enslaved by social programs and lies and Republicans still to this day trying to free them. Tell any High school black kid that Lincoln was a Republican, they will never believe you in a million years.
The Civil war was a war started by Democrats against Republicans to keep blacks as slaves. They never tell you that in school much less these documentaries which ticks me off to no end. The Democrat party was completely based on slavery, started by Thomas Jefferson one of the largest slave owners in the US which is why so many blacks are named Jefferson today. The Republican party was formed SOLELY to end slavery, and when Lincoln the first Republican president was elected, Democrats flipped out
those are some pretty horrible pictures well what do you expect it was America's bloodiest war and over 600,000 men died how horrible that war must of been and my great,great grandfather was a union magor general in the war but was shot in the leg at the Siege Petersburg and was brought to a camp hospital away from the fighting and got the mini ball removed and still fought until the Civil War ended then in 1867 he started to develop gang green in the original bullet wound and died 5 weeks later
@ImperialistRunningDo Sadly in a turn of irony General Sedgwick was struck just below the left eye and killed instantly by Confederate sharpshooters only moments after making that statement.
@ImperialistRunningDo that yankee prick got what he deserved. reminds me of the time in the revolutionary war when british general simon fraser was also underestimating the enemy's marksmanship and refused to dismount his horse after several bullets had skimmed him. An american sharpshooter in a tree shot him off his horse.
I don't get how new weapons are supposed to increase carnage. In attrition war, both sides will fight until too many casualties are sustained, whatever the weapons. If the Civil War had been fought with spear and bows, I don't think the death count would have been less. Maybe the casualties piled would've up faster, but the end result would've been the same. And the injuries would not have been lesser. How much more devastating is a Minie ball compared to a round ball or a spear?
@0000infinity0000 I did. Sure, tactics were outmoded and the Minie ball did nasty damage. But attrition battles end anyway when too much death has been inflicted on the enemy. When two sides are bent on massacring each other, they'll proceed whether they have sharpened sticks or automatic weapons.
@LordBifford hmm a spear hole or sword cut is clean. A round ball would knock things off messily I agree but a mine' ball was lead and when it went inside you it spread out leaving lead everywhere.
@Lumotaku Also, the Minie ball had a hollow base, and as the bullet leaves the barrel, a pocket of superhot plasma from the burning powder remains inside this cavity, causing the sides of the round to be semi-molten. When it struck, not only the round expands but the base of the round flattens, sending molten lead and hot gas everywhere.
@Rachen30 Plasma? molten lead and hot gas on impact? wtf are you smoking, I dont know where you get your info but Ive never seen any signs of plasma or molten lead on impact any time Ive shot these types of rounds and have never heard anything like that before.
@lookitcrashed Plasma=hot gas. A lot of it remains in the base of the minie ball as it travels out. I fired minie balls at night and they have a faint glow to them as they zip downrange. That is the hot gas from the burning powder that gets trapped in the hollow base.Sometimes some of the powder is unburnt and stays in the hollow base, where it continues to burn even as the ball is well downrange. In any case, a tremendous amount of heat is retained by the ball.
wow. a fucking show that aired on the history channel that actually had jack shit to do with history...how often does that happen? Usually I just see attention seeking camera whores in tractors trailers and idiotic morons blabbing about how aliens screwed monkeys to make us.
@sabaths1fan Sadly, serious history is boring. Just ask any history student who keeps falling asleep in class, even though he CHOSE history as his major. Humans really want silly entertaining distortions.
Does anyone know why Bolt-action breach loading rifles were not used in the civil war, if they had been developed at the time in France? (rifles like the Chassepot Needle Rifle).
@Sneaklemming The Chassepot only entered service in 1866. The Prussian army were using the Dreyse needle rifle however. I think probably the expense of needle rifles and their unreliability on campaign compared to conventional muzzle-loaders, coupled with military conservatism kept them out of use by many armies.
So much is stressed regarding the increased range of the rifled musket firing a Minie bullet but it should be remembered that most of the combat occured at ranges of less than 100 yards and many many casualties were still being incurred with smoothbores firing round projectiles and even Buck and Ball at the time of the Civil War.
@wowhobbster666 Why should I be angry about this. You are absolutely correct however I still maintain more casualties were inflicted at closer ranges using smooth bore muskets than were caused by minie bullets at maximum effective range. the .69 Cal firing buck and ball was an ugly weapon.
Except it wasn't. Most of the battles of the American
Revolutionary War were formal European style pitched battles in formation. Unrifled muskets, which no matter what you may have "learned" on tv, were the most common weapon, didn't allow much else.
if i could bring a platoon of men with AKs back to that time...... they would probly shit themselfs just hearing it firing. Does anyone know when the first fully automatic rifle was invented ????
they were morons! i would just leave the bullet in my leg. andrew jackson got shot like 13 times at a time preceding the civil war, and andrew jackson survived. he also got shot in the body insted of just the leg
"The Miniball was a godsend for the soldier in the field." Hmmn. Maybe "godsend" isn't the correct term - unless you worship a god of pain, sorrow, slaughter, maiming & death. But then, on second thought, the Old Testament god, Jehovah, is/was, according to the KJV Bible, a god that ordered the slaughter of entire peoples and cities, killed a multitude of first born male children, and who condoned the brutality of slaves and women,.. so maybe the Miniball was a godsend after all. How sad.
Prusian 1841 Zündnadelgewehr, the father of all bolt action rifles with paper ammunition, 6S/min and accurate up til 600meters was far superior to any american rifle then.
of hitler beacuse he was a litle,blood thirsty,bastard
he was a guy that thinked that he was great but actualy SON OF BEACH why ?
beacuse napoleon died in war beacuse he though he was great and hitler died actualy he killed hem self beacuse........well you already know beacuse he was a insane man killer and refuses to die
@le5094 actually you are stupid, i guess you think that every powerfull leader is a dictator who ruled like a monster? if napoleon was so bad why was he so loved by the people? why did they want him to return after he got exiled for the first time? he died in exile on St. Helena in the Atlantic ocean. and i don't know why you would compare hitler and napoleon, because they where both absolutists? that means that every king there ever was was a bloody monster?
You would have to be VERY drunk or VERY insane to march in perfect line across an open field towards waiting Confederates who are just EAGER to cap yo %$#. What were they thinking? I don't mind facing death in a battle but most of this was SUICIDE!
The guy they interviewed about civil war medicine didn't give surgeons their due credit - more amputations had to be performed because of the Minie ball's effect on bone. Stitching up such complicated wounds was impractical and would lead to MORE infection than amputation, and yes, as far as I know they were aware of infection even if they didn't know exactly what it was.
Sounds like a story to me. I don't remember seeing this in the history books. I do have a relative that was confederate and fought and was wounded during the war. He was wounded in the posterior and it is only speculation that he was running from the yankee's.
@trasmus6 The ass is one of the best places to get shot. It has few nerves and a lot of fat, so it heals well. Soldiers called it the "million-dollar-wound", because you'd get medical discharge and be sent home but not be crippled for life.
My great-grandfather's father fought at the Battle of Gettysburg on July 2, 1863. He carried two Colt Army revolvers and a musket. He exhausted his ammunition before he was wounded. He was not seriously wounded, but it took him out of service for several weeks, because he couldn't ride. He got shot in the butt by some guy using a squirrel rifle instead of a military musket. That saved his life. Afterwards, he was never able to shake his new nickname, Buttshot Bob.
@tommytowne Wow! You little Communist fuck! Castro killed half my family with a war HE fucking started! Shut your mouth you fucking idealistic fool! Get a shred of patriotism, and don't fucking talk to me, bitch!
Social Democracys work everywhere in Europe. Why wouldn't they work here. Abolishing Capitalism and currency is a tall order but following European models would do our country well.
you never experienced it. Your family got kicked out. Cuba would be a very different place without US sanctions. But I'm not advocating old school communism anyways. Hugo Chavez in Venezuela is on the right track. Freedoms of speech and democracy are very important to socialists worldwide.
@tommytowne Castro killed most of them. The rest had to flee. We fought because he took away our coffee plantains and everything we owned because that was the Communist thing to do.
Do me a favor: go die in a fucking hole. Nobody loves you.
People die in war, and people died fighting Castros revolutionary forces. The Cuban revolution gave the poor majority more than they ever had before. You must be a true elitist to want the majority to be so poor.
@tommytowne It wasn't in war. They were executed. I thought I made that clear. And if the minority is so appreciated in Communism, then why, oh why, is one out of every FOUR civilians in North Korea blind, while their government buys some of the world's most expensive alcohol? Bet you didn't know THAT, did you?
@tommytowne They were originally Communists themselves until Castro took everything they had from them. Then they decided to fight against him in the Underground to try to restore what the Cuban People had. And I realize Americans execute people in war (illegally) as does pretty much every military in the world that goes to war. They were executed starting in 1960 and ending in 1963. My parents, aunts, uncles, and grandparents left in '62. My g-pa's name is Aldo, and abuelita's name is Madeline
@tommytowne My Granduncles' names were Aldo (like my grandfather, uncle, great-grandfather, and my two cousins) and another Miguel (which is Abuelo's nickname for me).
I was going to look them up but I can't without full names. Even if you are telling the truth, counter revolutionaries get killed by governments. All Governments do it. I never really intended to defend Castro when advocating for European style socialism. Cuba has USSR style communism and you will be hard pressed to find an American Socialist who would want this style.
But as far as capitalism goes the Europeans have it down the best. Heavy restrictions under democratic socialism.
Try to overthrow the US government and they will kill you. Not that it is right? Hence my first comment. But as long as capitalism is around there will be wars.
The standard military service load for a M-1863 Springfield Rifle-Musket was 69 grains of FFg powder with a 510 grain Minie Ball. Velocity was 963 fps.(feet per second)
You would get messed up getting hit by that. Your only real defense is to be far away but even so there are accounts during the civil war of miniballs killing from up to 1-2 miles away from a battle
so still even to this day we have like no way of defending ourselves against civil war era weaponry ? i have always wanted to know also what a cannon would do to a tank
now this one is easy, Civil War Cannon against a Modern MBT , answer: Nothing maybe some paint damage or some cosmetic damage to bolt on fixtures(lights,AAMG mounted weapons)
This might be a bit late, but I'm certain that there could be an improvised manner of destroying a modern tank. The idea I have in mind would be somewhat similar to a landmine, only it would be filled with power and iron. Stuff that somewhere the tank will roll over it and detonate, and it might work.
War. War never changes. Humanity's progress has always been driven by war, and marked by the weapons of the time. From those of primitive stone and wood, to the precipice, nuclear weaponry.
They say war keeps getting worse with improvements in technology.....but at least doctors have general aenesthetic and sterile proceedures in their arsenal today
Did Civil War soldiers cover the breeches of their black poweder weapons in lard, grease, bore butter, or whatever, to keep them dry if they had to cross a river and expect a firefight at the far side of the river, and be ready to go into the fight without dealing with wet caps?
They took their cartridge boxes and waist belts with cap pouches off and held them above their heads along with their weapons while fording streams or other shallow water.
Surgery was not as crude as the documentary would have you believe. There had in fact been huge advances during the Crimean War in sanitation and anaesthesia, but the realities of operating mere miles from the battlefield meant that they weren't always put into practice.
that's true, i just mean at the time of amputation...
feeling your skin, muscle, tendins, bone being sawed off slowly; hot tar being places on the cut; knowing that it is probably going to get infected and might slowly kill you anyway.....plus the PTSD that's bound to affect you (whether they knew it existed or not), i don't know.....i guess in the long run (if you lived) it would be worth it, but while it was happening i'd just want to die...
@TombaFanatic : actually....when you put it that way....I see what you mean....but I can only imagine that all they were thinking about is I hope I can live to see my children, parents or wife again. Just awfull.....what humans had to live through not really that long ago
@TombaFanatic : yeah, even by the 2nd world war which was only like 75 years later... medical procedures had made huge advances. My dad was in ww2.....had over 40 pieces of shell frags in him, his stomach pretty much torn open and the tip of his elbow blown off....told me he never felt a thing.....till he woke up from surgery.
By the time they'd got to the age of 18, most people back then would have already gone through a LOT of hardship. Back then people were tough or they died.
@lordsummerisle87 true....in the old days people must have gone through alot.....Even my 87 year old mother tells me some awful stories from the great depression.....pulling their own teeth with pliers, working long hours probably 6+ days a week, living in freezing cold houses eating questionable food. I'll bet in one hundred years....people will say similar things about us now
@inkey2 i was trying to make my friend realize how crazy they used to live back then! lining up men on a field in the revolutionary war then again in the civil war lol now its all different lol imagine what the hell itd be like to juts fight with crossbows and blades
Seven people don't know how to shoot a gun.
AwesomeCaleb1996 2 weeks ago
if I lived then I would have fought for the Union :) Freedom for all
PureHeavenlySultan 3 weeks ago
i lol how americans call it the mini ball instead of minié
chaz1453 2 months ago 2
Napoleonic tactics involved large masses of mounted cavalry kept in reserve and used to break enemy large formations cohesiveness and line of command. Infantry formed in square was routinely used to counter-effect cavalry charges or threat of. Specialized cavalry units like lancers were also developed against squares and retreating infantry. Can't see any trace of this in ACW, which was, TACTICALLY, a late, poor-man, 18th century styled conflict.
061369317 3 months ago
If casualties levels are to be taken into account as an 'outdated tactics' marker, then both Wehrmarcht and STAVKA leaders were using 'outdated tactics' on the Eastern front 1941/1945.
The only result loose infantry formations could achieve before the introduction of small automatic weapons was harassing fire. If any battle of the ACW could have been won by using loose formations (which were known back then) only, you can be sure period leaders would have used them more extensively.
061369317 3 months ago
1 thing i never understood about civil war plz feel free to ansnwer..... was lincoln a dictator the whoole time or only during the end part when he f*cked over general lee?? us grant good president or drunk??
SOULJABOYGWENSTEPHAN 3 months ago
1:18 the shoulder to shoulder march in the American Civil War was suicidal and was more sending your own soldiers to execution.
supersmash43 3 months ago
@supersmash43 Infantry fought in skirmish mode too (several feet between each man) back then but this formation wasn't good for attack or standing defense = not enough firepower per linear yard. Remember best trained riflemen couldn't shoot more than 3 or 4rds per minute with most available rifles. And with battle stress, this figure could go even lower. Imagine 10 skirmishers defending against, or attacking a 50 man shoulder to shoulder formation on a 30 yds frontage...
061369317 3 months ago
hi guys to see a new video about the battle of mannasas(the first battle of the civil war) come visit srvztube channel to watch Battle of Manassas reenactment 150th Anniversary.
srvztube 5 months ago
@srvztube Was that the big reenactment in July? because I was just in Fredricksburg Virginia in July and I heard about a large reenactment for the 150th anniversary but I didn't have time to see Manassas but I went to see some of the other battlefields in Fredricksburg.
AUG351 5 months ago
@AUG351 Yes this was the huge reenactment in July xD ALL COME WATCH xD
srvztube 5 months ago
I mean 5:15
jigsawbmc 7 months ago
5:18 shit wouldn't want to be him
jigsawbmc 7 months ago
I think the infantry-cavalry-artillery dynamic is interesting. It's like rock-paper-scissors.
Infantry had an advantage over cavalry because of the range of the rifle and cavalry are a huge target.
Cavalry had an advantage over artillery because cavalry was fast and artillery took a long time to reload.
Artillery had an advantage over infantry because infantry were slow and tightly packed, so artillery could take out 20 men with one shot.
KayBeeEee1983 7 months ago
@KayBeeEee1983 Interesting point of view. I never thought of it in those terms. Good post....
CheckM8King2 5 months ago
We learned our lesson in Civil War, never again would we expend ourselves in that manner. How we fight our wars ever since, is the direct result of those four unfortunate years. We will expend things, not ourselves. A very sad period in American History.
BH206L3 7 months ago
It took so long to load the musket that defenders would work in teams. 1 would fire while 1 or 2 others would load the guns. This specialization meant that each person could get really good at either firing or loading and increase the rate of fire.
KayBeeEee1983 8 months ago
my article on these guns
hubpages.com/hub/Popular-Guns-of-the-Old-West
sethdesade 9 months ago
for emperorforce - because the head of Army Ordinance thought it would cause the troops to waste ammo and not bother to aim at their target. He also didn't want to have to replace all the rifles he'd issued the troops or deal with the increased amount of ammo they'd need. It didn't matter if battles would be lost or thousands of troops would die who didn't need to - it would be inconvenient for him and cause him more work. (I did a paper on this in college)
jimchape 10 months ago
why wasnt the brech loading repeater rifle adopted more quickly since it offered such an impressive advantage.
emperorfrance 10 months ago
What a conf
divinefart 11 months ago
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The .45 caliber bullet has been rated the most efficient threat-stopper of all time, two or four legged. In the 19th century alone, two revolvers which accounted for the greatest number of dead men on both sides of the law was the Beals models of 1861 and 1875, and of course, the Colt Model 1860 Army. I hit a silhouette target at 200 yards with a double-tap of .45 LC from my Beals revolver. Each of these wounds by themselves would have rendered a real enemy personnel very, very dead.
Rachen30 11 months ago
To join the infantry on both sides during this war, front teeth in good condition is a requirement, because soldiers must bite off the end of the musket's paper cartridges before the gun could be used. If you did not have good front teeth, you would be disqualified at the recruiting desk!
Rachen30 1 year ago
the transelvainian express
persson882 1 year ago
...and if anyone doubts that, remember in the 1960s the majority of Democrats voted AGAINST the Civil rights act. And incredibly blacks still overwhelmingly vote Democrat every election. Sort of like if Jews voted for Nazis. It's incredible how they are brainwashed, how Democrats now keep them enslaved by social programs and lies and Republicans still to this day trying to free them. Tell any High school black kid that Lincoln was a Republican, they will never believe you in a million years.
JamesTKirkCobain 1 year ago
@JamesTKirkCobain
Of course he was republican, you dumbass.
And if you tell anyone of ANY race and they don't believe you, then they are obviously ignorant of American history.
It has nothing to do with race..well maybe the obama election did......
sofakingwetalled 1 year ago
The Civil war was a war started by Democrats against Republicans to keep blacks as slaves. They never tell you that in school much less these documentaries which ticks me off to no end. The Democrat party was completely based on slavery, started by Thomas Jefferson one of the largest slave owners in the US which is why so many blacks are named Jefferson today. The Republican party was formed SOLELY to end slavery, and when Lincoln the first Republican president was elected, Democrats flipped out
JamesTKirkCobain 1 year ago
Thanks for uploading these!
Butternut731863 1 year ago
those are some pretty horrible pictures well what do you expect it was America's bloodiest war and over 600,000 men died how horrible that war must of been and my great,great grandfather was a union magor general in the war but was shot in the leg at the Siege Petersburg and was brought to a camp hospital away from the fighting and got the mini ball removed and still fought until the Civil War ended then in 1867 he started to develop gang green in the original bullet wound and died 5 weeks later
esandwich23 1 year ago
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..." (General John Sedgwick, Battle of Spotsylvania, 1864)
(A t-shirt I wear at the rifle range)
ImperialistRunningDo 1 year ago 28
@ImperialistRunningDo Greatest irony ever!!!!
DoryokuFiripin 11 months ago
@ImperialistRunningDo Sadly in a turn of irony General Sedgwick was struck just below the left eye and killed instantly by Confederate sharpshooters only moments after making that statement.
oompaloompa42005 10 months ago
@ImperialistRunningDo Didnt he get shot after saying that
Prussian7789 9 months ago
@Prussian7789 A popular myth is that he was killed just as he said those words. He did die within minutes of making that comment.
It was a terrible loss for the Union. I could make a list of generals that would not have been missed,, but Sedgwick was one of the good ones.
ImperialistRunningDo 9 months ago
@ImperialistRunningDo that yankee prick got what he deserved. reminds me of the time in the revolutionary war when british general simon fraser was also underestimating the enemy's marksmanship and refused to dismount his horse after several bullets had skimmed him. An american sharpshooter in a tree shot him off his horse.
zyzor 9 months ago
@ImperialistRunningDo Poor Uncle John.......too bad those were his last words!
CheckM8King2 5 months ago
I don't get how new weapons are supposed to increase carnage. In attrition war, both sides will fight until too many casualties are sustained, whatever the weapons. If the Civil War had been fought with spear and bows, I don't think the death count would have been less. Maybe the casualties piled would've up faster, but the end result would've been the same. And the injuries would not have been lesser. How much more devastating is a Minie ball compared to a round ball or a spear?
LordBifford 1 year ago
@LordBifford
You obviously didn't pay attention.
0000infinity0000 1 year ago
@0000infinity0000 I did. Sure, tactics were outmoded and the Minie ball did nasty damage. But attrition battles end anyway when too much death has been inflicted on the enemy. When two sides are bent on massacring each other, they'll proceed whether they have sharpened sticks or automatic weapons.
LordBifford 1 year ago
@LordBifford hmm a spear hole or sword cut is clean. A round ball would knock things off messily I agree but a mine' ball was lead and when it went inside you it spread out leaving lead everywhere.
Lumotaku 1 year ago
@Lumotaku Spears and swords made messier wounds than you think. A warrior doesn't cut carefully like a butcher or surgeon; he hacks his opponent.
The Minie ball had a hollow point which I believed expanded, but it didn't fragment AFAIK.
LordBifford 1 year ago
@LordBifford it actually exploded sending shards all over the place I would much rather be shot by an M 16 than a springfield musket.
Lumotaku 1 year ago
@Lumotaku Also, the Minie ball had a hollow base, and as the bullet leaves the barrel, a pocket of superhot plasma from the burning powder remains inside this cavity, causing the sides of the round to be semi-molten. When it struck, not only the round expands but the base of the round flattens, sending molten lead and hot gas everywhere.
Rachen30 1 year ago
@Rachen30 Plasma? molten lead and hot gas on impact? wtf are you smoking, I dont know where you get your info but Ive never seen any signs of plasma or molten lead on impact any time Ive shot these types of rounds and have never heard anything like that before.
lookitcrashed 1 year ago
@lookitcrashed Plasma=hot gas. A lot of it remains in the base of the minie ball as it travels out. I fired minie balls at night and they have a faint glow to them as they zip downrange. That is the hot gas from the burning powder that gets trapped in the hollow base.Sometimes some of the powder is unburnt and stays in the hollow base, where it continues to burn even as the ball is well downrange. In any case, a tremendous amount of heat is retained by the ball.
Rachen30 1 year ago
@Lumotaku no argument there
de4th1snt3nough 1 year ago
wow. a fucking show that aired on the history channel that actually had jack shit to do with history...how often does that happen? Usually I just see attention seeking camera whores in tractors trailers and idiotic morons blabbing about how aliens screwed monkeys to make us.
AlienZygote010 1 year ago
@AlienZygote010 They regularly air shows like this. Your just tuning in at the wrong time.
sabaths1fan 1 year ago
@sabaths1fan Sadly, serious history is boring. Just ask any history student who keeps falling asleep in class, even though he CHOSE history as his major. Humans really want silly entertaining distortions.
LordBifford 1 year ago
During the Napoleonic Wars there where already accurate weapons for individual shooting, and sharpshooters like: Jeagers, Caçadores, etc...
PompeusMagnus 1 year ago
@PompeusMagnus they had bored rifles back the over 200 years ago
ecosby100 1 year ago
@PompeusMagnus they had bored rifles back then over 200 years ago
ecosby100 1 year ago
this viedo is gay!~
boybeatz75 1 year ago
Does anyone know why Bolt-action breach loading rifles were not used in the civil war, if they had been developed at the time in France? (rifles like the Chassepot Needle Rifle).
Sneaklemming 1 year ago
@Sneaklemming The Chassepot only entered service in 1866. The Prussian army were using the Dreyse needle rifle however. I think probably the expense of needle rifles and their unreliability on campaign compared to conventional muzzle-loaders, coupled with military conservatism kept them out of use by many armies.
crippmeister 1 year ago
So much is stressed regarding the increased range of the rifled musket firing a Minie bullet but it should be remembered that most of the combat occured at ranges of less than 100 yards and many many casualties were still being incurred with smoothbores firing round projectiles and even Buck and Ball at the time of the Civil War.
Skytroop 1 year ago
@Skytroop dude sorry if i make u angry but they also had combat at 200 yards and 300 yards like skirmishers and such but hey your right in ways
wowhobbster666 1 year ago
@wowhobbster666 Why should I be angry about this. You are absolutely correct however I still maintain more casualties were inflicted at closer ranges using smooth bore muskets than were caused by minie bullets at maximum effective range. the .69 Cal firing buck and ball was an ugly weapon.
Skytroop 1 year ago
did civil war soldiers have any type of armor?...
guppyworld540 1 year ago
@09TexasTitan
Except it wasn't. Most of the battles of the American
Revolutionary War were formal European style pitched battles in formation. Unrifled muskets, which no matter what you may have "learned" on tv, were the most common weapon, didn't allow much else.
coy0te9 1 year ago
if i could bring a platoon of men with AKs back to that time...... they would probly shit themselfs just hearing it firing. Does anyone know when the first fully automatic rifle was invented ????
jt18023 1 year ago
@jt18023 WWII the STG 44, made by the germans in 1944
thatkindofguy234 1 year ago
@jt18023 umm the mexicans invented the first automatic rifle in 1902. The mondragon rifle
guppyworld540 1 year ago
@jt18023 look up the Mondragón rifle
kyleisreallycool 1 year ago
they were morons! i would just leave the bullet in my leg. andrew jackson got shot like 13 times at a time preceding the civil war, and andrew jackson survived. he also got shot in the body insted of just the leg
xenomann442 1 year ago
"The Miniball was a godsend for the soldier in the field." Hmmn. Maybe "godsend" isn't the correct term - unless you worship a god of pain, sorrow, slaughter, maiming & death. But then, on second thought, the Old Testament god, Jehovah, is/was, according to the KJV Bible, a god that ordered the slaughter of entire peoples and cities, killed a multitude of first born male children, and who condoned the brutality of slaves and women,.. so maybe the Miniball was a godsend after all. How sad.
SororThothma 1 year ago
Prusian 1841 Zündnadelgewehr, the father of all bolt action rifles with paper ammunition, 6S/min and accurate up til 600meters was far superior to any american rifle then.
JSLegoMaster 1 year ago
you know napoleon remainds me
of hitler beacuse he was a litle,blood thirsty,bastard
he was a guy that thinked that he was great but actualy SON OF BEACH why ?
beacuse napoleon died in war beacuse he though he was great and hitler died actualy he killed hem self beacuse........well you already know beacuse he was a insane man killer and refuses to die
le5094 1 year ago
@le5094 I like Jewfish D:
ryu8888 1 year ago
wtf u on about ahahah napoleon didnt die in war
WONDERDRUGG 1 year ago
@le5094 Napoléon died in exile, and he was actually one of the greatest military minds in the history of warfare..
BassDudeBear 1 year ago
@le5094 actually you are stupid, i guess you think that every powerfull leader is a dictator who ruled like a monster? if napoleon was so bad why was he so loved by the people? why did they want him to return after he got exiled for the first time? he died in exile on St. Helena in the Atlantic ocean. and i don't know why you would compare hitler and napoleon, because they where both absolutists? that means that every king there ever was was a bloody monster?
yordi193 5 months ago
Then, in WW1, they had more modern weapons , but using Trench warfare.
jrwel14 1 year ago
5:47, lol, you see a pickup in the background.
1stLtDavis 1 year ago 10
@1stLtDavis LOLOLOLOLOL
XplosiveProductZ 1 year ago
@1stLtDavis Anacrhonism fail XD
masterimbecile 6 months ago
I swear get me a regiment and the most advanced weapons of the civil war and i will wipe the floor with both armies.
pzshi 1 year ago
You would have to be VERY drunk or VERY insane to march in perfect line across an open field towards waiting Confederates who are just EAGER to cap yo %$#. What were they thinking? I don't mind facing death in a battle but most of this was SUICIDE!
ThoughtTraveler 1 year ago
It is a little weird because American revolution against Britain was all about guerrilla warfare.. now they go down to Napoleonic age?
CharlesFernando7 1 year ago
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Joseph565112 1 year ago
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Joseph565112 1 year ago
is that guys guts hanging out at
00:50?
NandoPalmira 1 year ago
@NandoPalmira I believe so, isn't it pretty....(I'm joking.)
killforfunandmoney69 1 year ago
@killforfunandmoney69 yeah it's beautiful...nice.
NandoPalmira 1 year ago
I loved seeing this show on local ST. Thomas USVI cable!
strazzy3 1 year ago
The guy they interviewed about civil war medicine didn't give surgeons their due credit - more amputations had to be performed because of the Minie ball's effect on bone. Stitching up such complicated wounds was impractical and would lead to MORE infection than amputation, and yes, as far as I know they were aware of infection even if they didn't know exactly what it was.
shutyamouf87 1 year ago
03:25 $14 in 1863 is roughly $240 in modern terms.
LordBifford 1 year ago
Sounds like a story to me. I don't remember seeing this in the history books. I do have a relative that was confederate and fought and was wounded during the war. He was wounded in the posterior and it is only speculation that he was running from the yankee's.
trasmus6 1 year ago
@trasmus6 The ass is one of the best places to get shot. It has few nerves and a lot of fat, so it heals well. Soldiers called it the "million-dollar-wound", because you'd get medical discharge and be sent home but not be crippled for life.
LordBifford 1 year ago
You know i got a feeling that there should be a Civil War fps game
jazzaim 2 years ago
there is!
closecomb 2 years ago
And you had to go instigate him.
trasmus6 1 year ago
Brillant.
trasmus6 1 year ago
My great-grandfather's father fought at the Battle of Gettysburg on July 2, 1863. He carried two Colt Army revolvers and a musket. He exhausted his ammunition before he was wounded. He was not seriously wounded, but it took him out of service for several weeks, because he couldn't ride. He got shot in the butt by some guy using a squirrel rifle instead of a military musket. That saved his life. Afterwards, he was never able to shake his new nickname, Buttshot Bob.
MackinacIs 2 years ago
Don't forget the Smith & Wesson cartridge pistol, although the Civil War ones only came in .32 caliber.
sbflash311 2 years ago 2
Rifled muskets existed long before, but before the Minie ball it took ages to ram the tight-fitting bullet down the barrel.
LordBifford 2 years ago 8
@LordBifford yea i would hate to have to fight firing 1 or 2 rounds a minute when a guy was shooting 3 to 5 rounds a minute it would suck
wowhobbster666 1 year ago
I hope nothing like the Civil War ever happens again. So many lives lost...
CrystalHunter1989 2 years ago
CW2 coming soon
telesniper2 2 years ago 2
I hope no wars ever happen again. They are always fought for rich men by poor men. Including the civil war.
Fight war not wars
tommytowne 2 years ago
Unfortunately, you know war will never end. Not as long as corruption will presist.
Killermuffin1 2 years ago
Agreed, as long as capitalism exists there will be war
tommytowne 2 years ago
@tommytowne Wow! You little Communist fuck! Castro killed half my family with a war HE fucking started! Shut your mouth you fucking idealistic fool! Get a shred of patriotism, and don't fucking talk to me, bitch!
Killermuffin1 2 years ago
You are a fucking liar.
Castro kicked out your family for being capitalist fucks.
Socialism is patriotic.
I'm talking to YOU.
BITCH
tommytowne 2 years ago
why don't you move to Cuba?
5311ATB 2 years ago 5
No thanks. The goal is to bring socialism here. I'm an American
tommytowne 2 years ago
@tommytowne Socialism will never work. I wish it would, but people are too stubbourn and self-centered.
Killermuffin1 2 years ago
Social Democracys work everywhere in Europe. Why wouldn't they work here. Abolishing Capitalism and currency is a tall order but following European models would do our country well.
tommytowne 2 years ago
@tommytowne And you say you're American? I'm Cuban! We've EXPERIENCED Communism! It FAILS!!!
Killermuffin1 2 years ago
you never experienced it. Your family got kicked out. Cuba would be a very different place without US sanctions. But I'm not advocating old school communism anyways. Hugo Chavez in Venezuela is on the right track. Freedoms of speech and democracy are very important to socialists worldwide.
tommytowne 2 years ago
@tommytowne Castro killed most of them. The rest had to flee. We fought because he took away our coffee plantains and everything we owned because that was the Communist thing to do.
Do me a favor: go die in a fucking hole. Nobody loves you.
Killermuffin1 2 years ago
People die in war, and people died fighting Castros revolutionary forces. The Cuban revolution gave the poor majority more than they ever had before. You must be a true elitist to want the majority to be so poor.
You aren't too bright are you?
tommytowne 2 years ago
@tommytowne It wasn't in war. They were executed. I thought I made that clear. And if the minority is so appreciated in Communism, then why, oh why, is one out of every FOUR civilians in North Korea blind, while their government buys some of the world's most expensive alcohol? Bet you didn't know THAT, did you?
Killermuffin1 2 years ago
executed for what charges? I already said I didn't believe you. I think you are a liar.
Americans execute people in war also. It doesn't make it right but it is a reality of war. Hence my very first comment here.
How many years after the revolution were they executed? what dates? what were their names? You won't provide this info because you are lying.
Fuck North Korea, when did I say anything about north Korea. Never. 1 out of 4 people blind? you are a retard.
I said Europe dip shit
tommytowne 2 years ago
@tommytowne They were originally Communists themselves until Castro took everything they had from them. Then they decided to fight against him in the Underground to try to restore what the Cuban People had. And I realize Americans execute people in war (illegally) as does pretty much every military in the world that goes to war. They were executed starting in 1960 and ending in 1963. My parents, aunts, uncles, and grandparents left in '62. My g-pa's name is Aldo, and abuelita's name is Madeline
Killermuffin1 2 years ago
@tommytowne My Granduncles' names were Aldo (like my grandfather, uncle, great-grandfather, and my two cousins) and another Miguel (which is Abuelo's nickname for me).
Killermuffin1 2 years ago
I was going to look them up but I can't without full names. Even if you are telling the truth, counter revolutionaries get killed by governments. All Governments do it. I never really intended to defend Castro when advocating for European style socialism. Cuba has USSR style communism and you will be hard pressed to find an American Socialist who would want this style.
tommytowne 2 years ago
But as far as capitalism goes the Europeans have it down the best. Heavy restrictions under democratic socialism.
Try to overthrow the US government and they will kill you. Not that it is right? Hence my first comment. But as long as capitalism is around there will be wars.
tommytowne 2 years ago
@tommytowne More like as long as there is anything too Capitalistic or too Communistic. That's just my opinion.
Killermuffin1 2 years ago
Yes like France or Germany
tommytowne 2 years ago
Exactly!
Killermuffin1 2 years ago
that would be my mistake
jonesbrand 2 years ago
Then why did the soviet union invade Afganistan
jonesbrand 2 years ago
because 1+1= 2
LATINCARTEL1 2 years ago 13
I am not here to defend the Soviet Union.
tommytowne 2 years ago
@tommytowne
Soviet Union started many wars.
MokomaSusi 1 year ago
@MokomaSusi ok, and?
tommytowne 1 year ago
How many? Are we having a competition here? Good idea. Which country started the most wars?
trasmus6 1 year ago
@tommytowne
Cuba? horrible place.
MokomaSusi 1 year ago
@MokomaSusi any more or less horrible then any other country umder US sanctions?
tommytowne 1 year ago
@tommytowne
Horrible for average people. After all
Cuba IS communist dictature.
MokomaSusi 1 year ago
Didn't you read that all communist countries have ended and even China is no longer travelling down this path. ?
trasmus6 1 year ago
What is so horrible about Cuba? Cool American Cars. Inexpensive Prostitutes, Great Beaches. Great History and Historical places.
trasmus6 1 year ago
back when they had iron men and wooden ships
brian80o 2 years ago
in the civil war they had iron ships called ironclads which were indestructible at the time.
135twilight 2 years ago
i have an odd question what would a musket do to a bullet proof vest?
LastRussianEmporer 2 years ago
alot of muskets were 50 calibur or more and most were 68 calibur.
You would messed up if you got hit by a miniball even in a flak vest
MauserK43 2 years ago
o damn i thought the lowered velocity would at least give you a chance
LastRussianEmporer 2 years ago
The standard military service load for a M-1863 Springfield Rifle-Musket was 69 grains of FFg powder with a 510 grain Minie Ball. Velocity was 963 fps.(feet per second)
You would get messed up getting hit by that. Your only real defense is to be far away but even so there are accounts during the civil war of miniballs killing from up to 1-2 miles away from a battle
MauserK43 2 years ago
so still even to this day we have like no way of defending ourselves against civil war era weaponry ? i have always wanted to know also what a cannon would do to a tank
LastRussianEmporer 2 years ago
now this one is easy, Civil War Cannon against a Modern MBT , answer: Nothing maybe some paint damage or some cosmetic damage to bolt on fixtures(lights,AAMG mounted weapons)
MauserK43 2 years ago
lol is there anythign they used back then able to defeat a modern tank?
LastRussianEmporer 2 years ago
none know weapons from that era can harm a modern MBT
MauserK43 2 years ago
well that ruins my plan for raising a giant colonial army =(
LastRussianEmporer 2 years ago 2
the parrot gun cannon used ammo that was just like a minie ball but weighed 20 pounds. It probably could in my opinion.
135twilight 2 years ago
@LastRussianEmporer
This might be a bit late, but I'm certain that there could be an improvised manner of destroying a modern tank. The idea I have in mind would be somewhat similar to a landmine, only it would be filled with power and iron. Stuff that somewhere the tank will roll over it and detonate, and it might work.
hyenalord 2 years ago
its never too late lol that sounds like a good idea actually thank you
LastRussianEmporer 2 years ago
How do you fill something with power?
trasmus6 1 year ago
That is one frigging heavy bullet.
Lithys 2 years ago
War. War never changes. Humanity's progress has always been driven by war, and marked by the weapons of the time. From those of primitive stone and wood, to the precipice, nuclear weaponry.
MauserK43 2 years ago
lol, aint that for COD5 ???
kisameXC 2 years ago
Fallout 3
MauserK43 2 years ago
They say war keeps getting worse with improvements in technology.....but at least doctors have general aenesthetic and sterile proceedures in their arsenal today
crocfme 2 years ago 2
Why not in french ?? Lol !! I have colt replicas ...
jeancocha 2 years ago
Did Civil War soldiers cover the breeches of their black poweder weapons in lard, grease, bore butter, or whatever, to keep them dry if they had to cross a river and expect a firefight at the far side of the river, and be ready to go into the fight without dealing with wet caps?
tmallow2004 2 years ago
They took their cartridge boxes and waist belts with cap pouches off and held them above their heads along with their weapons while fording streams or other shallow water.
galoon 2 years ago
I think they would cross with there guns above their heads & out of the water, that's my guess.
JeffTheFutureJaros 2 years ago
I am a reenactor; I have used them all, though I much prefer my sidearms of a .44 Remington and .44 colt army.
wellington1800 2 years ago
Very interesting show. Horrible and brutel fate for someone who got shot by that weapon.
victou0697 2 years ago 3
from these old photos....it absolutely amazes me that anyone lived through an amputation.....trauma, infection etc. But apparently they did.
inkey2 3 years ago 10
Surgery was not as crude as the documentary would have you believe. There had in fact been huge advances during the Crimean War in sanitation and anaesthesia, but the realities of operating mere miles from the battlefield meant that they weren't always put into practice.
CountArtha 2 years ago
@inkey2 but would you want to?
TombaFanatic 1 year ago
@TombaFanatic : most people....when it comes down to death, would chose to live
inkey2 1 year ago
@inkey2
that's true, i just mean at the time of amputation...
feeling your skin, muscle, tendins, bone being sawed off slowly; hot tar being places on the cut; knowing that it is probably going to get infected and might slowly kill you anyway.....plus the PTSD that's bound to affect you (whether they knew it existed or not), i don't know.....i guess in the long run (if you lived) it would be worth it, but while it was happening i'd just want to die...
TombaFanatic 1 year ago
@TombaFanatic : actually....when you put it that way....I see what you mean....but I can only imagine that all they were thinking about is I hope I can live to see my children, parents or wife again. Just awfull.....what humans had to live through not really that long ago
inkey2 1 year ago
@inkey2 yeah, if you can get through it, it might have been worth it....but i probably wouldn't be thinking that at the time...
it's a wonderful age we live in. surgeries are relatively painless, deadly diseases are much rarer, and war is much less brutal
TombaFanatic 1 year ago
@TombaFanatic : yeah, even by the 2nd world war which was only like 75 years later... medical procedures had made huge advances. My dad was in ww2.....had over 40 pieces of shell frags in him, his stomach pretty much torn open and the tip of his elbow blown off....told me he never felt a thing.....till he woke up from surgery.
inkey2 1 year ago
@inkey2
By the time they'd got to the age of 18, most people back then would have already gone through a LOT of hardship. Back then people were tough or they died.
lordsummerisle87 1 year ago
@lordsummerisle87 true....in the old days people must have gone through alot.....Even my 87 year old mother tells me some awful stories from the great depression.....pulling their own teeth with pliers, working long hours probably 6+ days a week, living in freezing cold houses eating questionable food. I'll bet in one hundred years....people will say similar things about us now
inkey2 1 year ago
@inkey2 i was trying to make my friend realize how crazy they used to live back then! lining up men on a field in the revolutionary war then again in the civil war lol now its all different lol imagine what the hell itd be like to juts fight with crossbows and blades
WooZIE997 1 year ago