islam didn't influence chinese martial arts it influenced indo/malaysian arts it just so happens those arts are highly influenced by chinese martial arts. I personally prefer indonesian arts to chinese ones.
@ervin920...... ....... do u kno about kalari..... the most ancient art form..... most dangerous..... and india has seen many martial arts....iam an indian muslim.... india has more no of brucelee fans..... after china...
iam very eager to learn all sots of martal arts.......... but cant find martial arts like muaythai, capoiera, wing chun and jiu jitsu..... in INDIA.....
Thank you all very much for taking time to watch this video. We appreciate all your comments. We enjoy the practise of all martial arts regardless of their land of origin. They are all gifts from Allah. We teach these gifts to be used as tools for our children to assist in building a better world for all of humanity and not to be used to oppress. Peace and blessings to you all. Al Hajji Abdur-Rahim Muhammad (Sifu)
I am sorry but you are wrong, Martial arts came from india and plenty of info and proof to show it was plus why would bruce lee lie about it coming from india, I think you are the one who needs to learn and seek knowledge pal!!!!, Wearing a kung fu suit and going through the channels of sashes and belts does not make you know all historical facts, I got to 4th dan Black belt in Tae Kwon Do when i was 16 and was silver medal junior boxing champ in middx in 1994 but i don't show off about it !!!
Congrats on the fourth Dan black belt and silver medal you must be very proud of them. As you said your' suits, belts , sashes, and medals mean nothing when it comes to knowledge of history. But obviously you find them relevant in some way otherwise you wouldn't have brought them up. As for Bruce Lee he was a great martial artist but a terrible source of history. I don't think that he was intentionally lying.
He probably heard about Kalari Payattu being the art Boddhidarma brought to China and found it plausible just like so many other people, and on the surface it does sound plausible until you start to investigate the history of China, India and their martial arts. But then again Mr. Bruce "I Have a philosophy degree" Lee wasn't above telling a few whoppers. If you do have "plenty of info and proof to show" I would be interested in hearing it.
I would also like to add that if you find anything part of what I have written to be historically inaccurate, please tell me why and give any evidence that you might have. I personally wouldn't care if Chinese martial arts did originate in India. What I do care about is the truth. People have always tried to distort history for their own gain weather it is monetary, political, or just for their own egos. When we distort history we deprive our selves of what it has to teach us.
Obviously you have a substantial emotional investment in the idea that "martial arts came from buddah darma" but by clinging to this as a source of pride or a way of validating your' practice, you are depriving yourself of the many lessons contained in the rich history of Buddhist martial arts. P.S. sorry but I have no kungfu suits, 4th Dan black belts, sashes, or silver metals to show off, as my teachers believe that your' kungfu should speak for it's self.
Just so every one knows this is not a Muslim kungfu style it is Shaolin kungfu. Jow/Zhou gar was created by the Jow brothers in the late 1800's by combining Choy Gar, and Hung Gar (both "Southern Shaolin" secret society styles) with an unidentified northern Shaolin style. The teacher is Muslim but the kungfu is not. I don't know why they didn't find a Muslim master of one of the many famous kungfu styles created by Muslims and practiced in the Chinese Muslim community.
its either the first one or the fifth one down its 1 hour 30 mins so just look just in case cos there is lots of vids and its done by drelbcom i think
also to have proof of this type in bruce lee the invincible and watch ten mins or so into it and the chinese master tells the story of the indian monk but you can watch all of it if you want too lol
yep thats true newfriiikan martial arts came from buddah darma i think but basically an indian monk walked from india to china and on the way encountered the tiger. the snake, the monkey etc and endorsed it into his already established fighting style which i think was kalari puytu but basically martial arts came from india and even bruce lee knew this and made it known at times but its like football the english invented it but the brazillians dominate it today much as the martial arts by china
@truthwarriordan If you want to be a warrior of the truth you should take the time to seek and learn truth. Not repeat a garbled mixture of different legends and hearsay based on uninformed assumptions. Bodhidarma did not bring kungfu to China there is nothing in his myths about animals. According to myth he left the Yijin Jing (Muscle/tendon change classic) and Xisui Jing (Marrow/brain washing classic) manuscripts in his grave which were found hundreds of years later.
These were exercises for developing the Body, Mind, and spirit. They were not martial kungfu. Some of the skills were later added to kungfu. We now know from analysis of the documents that they were forgeries written in the 1600's at the earliest. there is no mention at all of Bodhidarma teaching kungfu or qigong before the 1800's even though there are several surviving Shaolin martial manuscripts from before this time. Almost all "Shaolin" Styles were created outside of the monastery .
There are only a couple of forms that were possibly created in Shaolin. The whole animal thing comes from other myths of the creation of animal styles and have nothing to do with Bodhidarma or India. There is no mention even in myths of animal styles being practiced at Shaolin before the the 1400's. As for Kalari Payatu, there are some myths that say Bodhidarma was a prince or that he was born into the Kshatrya (warrior) caste in which case he would have been taught martial arts as a child.
believe it or not actually every single martial art in this planet came from an ancient indian for of "quick dance" as they call it...through dance and religion and coming to china made martial arts of today. Read a book before you comment.
@NewFriiiikan i heard that before. u cant take credit from the people who perform the martial arts even if you had the idea. india may of started the idea of martial art, but kung fu is what people want. india is pathetic to think that they can ever do what shaolin monks do. as u see, the indian art is lame and pathetic
This Idea that India created the martial arts is completely ridiculous. China had Dance, Religion and martial arts long before contact with India and so did every single culture on earth. Giving India credit for inventing any of those things is almost as stupid as claiming India invented Bipedalism. All those things are just part of being human, that's why they are found in every culture in human history.
See you are wrong evidence proves that on this one mate.Of course since the age of the caveman humans found ways to defend one another but lets stick to kung fu which origins date way back to the Xia dinasty when the emperor then traveled beneath Himalayas looking to expand his kingdom where he saw the Vishnu priests meditating and dancing in a form where it would appear as they are striking one another.Oddly Vedic scripts mention this. Read "The Shaolin monastery" book
@NewFriiiikan O.K. I'm just going to Ignore the part about a Mythological culture hero walking under a giant mountain range being evidence. There is still an ongoing debate about whether or not the Xia dynasty actually existed, but if they did the only culture that matches the time and place of the Xia would be the Erlitou. They were restricted to the central Yellow River Valley. If they wanted to expand they had the whole of modern china to expand into.
Legends are written so that people would consider them legends and not real...yes little proof Xia dinasty existed but who says they didnt and like I said none of us knows what happened and I seriously doubt that kung fu 100% originated from China itself so that said we got way out of topic considering the theme of this video.
This is a stone age culture we're talking about, It is highly unlikely they even knew about India much less even had the military capability to even consider invading it. They had a hard enough time defending themselves from the neighboring tribes. That's why they were never able to expand out of the central portion of a single river valley. Again virtually ever culture on earth has warrior dances "dancing in a form where it would appear as they are striking one another".
"Vedic scripts" What Vedic Scripts? Exactly what do they say? There is no proof that China is mentioned in any vedic text, much less a specific identifiable emperor. yes there are mentions of Cinas that some people think refers to China but the name China refers to the Qin dynasty so why would a text predating Qin times refer to China by that name? In the middle of a list of ancient Indian tribes? I've read tons of ridiculous things in books. Especially books on martial arts.
No i meant vedic scrpits explain the so called "dance" indian people did back in the day. During the Xia dinasty there were not hundreds of emperors so one of them probably did travel to "somewhere" and saw "something" he found effective as means to hurt "someone" or defend against "someone" etc etc. Ridiculous as it is chinese martial arts or just martial arts itself are as ancient as history. I seriosly doubt anybody actually knows what happened.
Yoga is generally Hindu. China has one of the largest Muslim populations on earth. Islam has been in china for 1400years and some of the most powerful styles of Chinese kungfu were created by Muslims.
acctually marital arts was brought to religious groups by former bandits and soldier who wanted to repent and teach religious groups to defennd themselves
islam didn't influence chinese martial arts it influenced indo/malaysian arts it just so happens those arts are highly influenced by chinese martial arts. I personally prefer indonesian arts to chinese ones.
Ilanactingreel 1 month ago
@ervin920...... ....... do u kno about kalari..... the most ancient art form..... most dangerous..... and india has seen many martial arts....iam an indian muslim.... india has more no of brucelee fans..... after china...
rajlunislaam 1 month ago
iam very eager to learn all sots of martal arts.......... but cant find martial arts like muaythai, capoiera, wing chun and jiu jitsu..... in INDIA.....
rajlunislaam 1 month ago
founder of this martial art is ..... BOUDHI BHARMAN...... a south indian pallava king.....
and i am a student of kungfu(manchurian) style art...
rajlunislaam 1 month ago
Thank you all very much for taking time to watch this video. We appreciate all your comments. We enjoy the practise of all martial arts regardless of their land of origin. They are all gifts from Allah. We teach these gifts to be used as tools for our children to assist in building a better world for all of humanity and not to be used to oppress. Peace and blessings to you all. Al Hajji Abdur-Rahim Muhammad (Sifu)
htcmrahim 2 months ago
THANKYOU BROTHA !!! THANKYOU FOR PRESERVING OUR CHINESE CULTURE !!!!
fucken communist cunts. hope they die .
bigfatdick5000 2 months ago
brothers let all get strong so we can help each other and spread the light that is islam
Correctyourself 2 months ago
By the way, I know also chiken curry kung fu
molezay 3 months ago
I know also communist kung fu :) lol stupid :)
molezay 3 months ago
allahu akbar
arthasbr 5 months ago 2
i agree with you lahij, the muslims are not terrorist, we are muslims and our job is to spread islam to the world by peace
MrThemedivalwarrior 6 months ago 2
I am sorry but you are wrong, Martial arts came from india and plenty of info and proof to show it was plus why would bruce lee lie about it coming from india, I think you are the one who needs to learn and seek knowledge pal!!!!, Wearing a kung fu suit and going through the channels of sashes and belts does not make you know all historical facts, I got to 4th dan Black belt in Tae Kwon Do when i was 16 and was silver medal junior boxing champ in middx in 1994 but i don't show off about it !!!
truthwarriordan 6 months ago
@truthwarriordan
Congrats on the fourth Dan black belt and silver medal you must be very proud of them. As you said your' suits, belts , sashes, and medals mean nothing when it comes to knowledge of history. But obviously you find them relevant in some way otherwise you wouldn't have brought them up. As for Bruce Lee he was a great martial artist but a terrible source of history. I don't think that he was intentionally lying.
TheaSinensisSerpenti 4 months ago
He probably heard about Kalari Payattu being the art Boddhidarma brought to China and found it plausible just like so many other people, and on the surface it does sound plausible until you start to investigate the history of China, India and their martial arts. But then again Mr. Bruce "I Have a philosophy degree" Lee wasn't above telling a few whoppers. If you do have "plenty of info and proof to show" I would be interested in hearing it.
TheaSinensisSerpenti 4 months ago
I would also like to add that if you find anything part of what I have written to be historically inaccurate, please tell me why and give any evidence that you might have. I personally wouldn't care if Chinese martial arts did originate in India. What I do care about is the truth. People have always tried to distort history for their own gain weather it is monetary, political, or just for their own egos. When we distort history we deprive our selves of what it has to teach us.
TheaSinensisSerpenti 4 months ago
Obviously you have a substantial emotional investment in the idea that "martial arts came from buddah darma" but by clinging to this as a source of pride or a way of validating your' practice, you are depriving yourself of the many lessons contained in the rich history of Buddhist martial arts. P.S. sorry but I have no kungfu suits, 4th Dan black belts, sashes, or silver metals to show off, as my teachers believe that your' kungfu should speak for it's self.
TheaSinensisSerpenti 4 months ago
Just so every one knows this is not a Muslim kungfu style it is Shaolin kungfu. Jow/Zhou gar was created by the Jow brothers in the late 1800's by combining Choy Gar, and Hung Gar (both "Southern Shaolin" secret society styles) with an unidentified northern Shaolin style. The teacher is Muslim but the kungfu is not. I don't know why they didn't find a Muslim master of one of the many famous kungfu styles created by Muslims and practiced in the Chinese Muslim community.
TheaSinensisSerpenti 6 months ago 2
its great to find a muslim master Like You my brother . God Bless you
MyBadmood 10 months ago
its either the first one or the fifth one down its 1 hour 30 mins so just look just in case cos there is lots of vids and its done by drelbcom i think
truthwarriordan 11 months ago
also to have proof of this type in bruce lee the invincible and watch ten mins or so into it and the chinese master tells the story of the indian monk but you can watch all of it if you want too lol
truthwarriordan 11 months ago
yep thats true newfriiikan martial arts came from buddah darma i think but basically an indian monk walked from india to china and on the way encountered the tiger. the snake, the monkey etc and endorsed it into his already established fighting style which i think was kalari puytu but basically martial arts came from india and even bruce lee knew this and made it known at times but its like football the english invented it but the brazillians dominate it today much as the martial arts by china
truthwarriordan 11 months ago
@truthwarriordan If you want to be a warrior of the truth you should take the time to seek and learn truth. Not repeat a garbled mixture of different legends and hearsay based on uninformed assumptions. Bodhidarma did not bring kungfu to China there is nothing in his myths about animals. According to myth he left the Yijin Jing (Muscle/tendon change classic) and Xisui Jing (Marrow/brain washing classic) manuscripts in his grave which were found hundreds of years later.
TheaSinensisSerpenti 6 months ago
These were exercises for developing the Body, Mind, and spirit. They were not martial kungfu. Some of the skills were later added to kungfu. We now know from analysis of the documents that they were forgeries written in the 1600's at the earliest. there is no mention at all of Bodhidarma teaching kungfu or qigong before the 1800's even though there are several surviving Shaolin martial manuscripts from before this time. Almost all "Shaolin" Styles were created outside of the monastery .
TheaSinensisSerpenti 6 months ago
There are only a couple of forms that were possibly created in Shaolin. The whole animal thing comes from other myths of the creation of animal styles and have nothing to do with Bodhidarma or India. There is no mention even in myths of animal styles being practiced at Shaolin before the the 1400's. As for Kalari Payatu, there are some myths that say Bodhidarma was a prince or that he was born into the Kshatrya (warrior) caste in which case he would have been taught martial arts as a child.
TheaSinensisSerpenti 6 months ago
But even if he was he would have been taught the martial arts of his own country. Not a foreign martial art like Kalari Payatu.
TheaSinensisSerpenti 6 months ago
So peaceful I would love to experience that
SuperPussykatt 11 months ago
pfff muslim kung fu is a joke. china is the rightful place of real kung fu. indians suck balls at martial arts. stick to your yoga
ervin920 1 year ago
@ervin920
believe it or not actually every single martial art in this planet came from an ancient indian for of "quick dance" as they call it...through dance and religion and coming to china made martial arts of today. Read a book before you comment.
NewFriiiikan 1 year ago
@NewFriiiikan i heard that before. u cant take credit from the people who perform the martial arts even if you had the idea. india may of started the idea of martial art, but kung fu is what people want. india is pathetic to think that they can ever do what shaolin monks do. as u see, the indian art is lame and pathetic
ervin920 1 year ago
@NewFriiiikan
This Idea that India created the martial arts is completely ridiculous. China had Dance, Religion and martial arts long before contact with India and so did every single culture on earth. Giving India credit for inventing any of those things is almost as stupid as claiming India invented Bipedalism. All those things are just part of being human, that's why they are found in every culture in human history.
TheaSinensisSerpenti 6 months ago
@TheaSinensisSerpenti
See you are wrong evidence proves that on this one mate.Of course since the age of the caveman humans found ways to defend one another but lets stick to kung fu which origins date way back to the Xia dinasty when the emperor then traveled beneath Himalayas looking to expand his kingdom where he saw the Vishnu priests meditating and dancing in a form where it would appear as they are striking one another.Oddly Vedic scripts mention this. Read "The Shaolin monastery" book
NewFriiiikan 6 months ago
@NewFriiiikan O.K. I'm just going to Ignore the part about a Mythological culture hero walking under a giant mountain range being evidence. There is still an ongoing debate about whether or not the Xia dynasty actually existed, but if they did the only culture that matches the time and place of the Xia would be the Erlitou. They were restricted to the central Yellow River Valley. If they wanted to expand they had the whole of modern china to expand into.
TheaSinensisSerpenti 6 months ago
@TheaSinensisSerpenti
Legends are written so that people would consider them legends and not real...yes little proof Xia dinasty existed but who says they didnt and like I said none of us knows what happened and I seriously doubt that kung fu 100% originated from China itself so that said we got way out of topic considering the theme of this video.
NewFriiiikan 6 months ago
This is a stone age culture we're talking about, It is highly unlikely they even knew about India much less even had the military capability to even consider invading it. They had a hard enough time defending themselves from the neighboring tribes. That's why they were never able to expand out of the central portion of a single river valley. Again virtually ever culture on earth has warrior dances "dancing in a form where it would appear as they are striking one another".
TheaSinensisSerpenti 6 months ago
"Vedic scripts" What Vedic Scripts? Exactly what do they say? There is no proof that China is mentioned in any vedic text, much less a specific identifiable emperor. yes there are mentions of Cinas that some people think refers to China but the name China refers to the Qin dynasty so why would a text predating Qin times refer to China by that name? In the middle of a list of ancient Indian tribes? I've read tons of ridiculous things in books. Especially books on martial arts.
TheaSinensisSerpenti 6 months ago
@TheaSinensisSerpenti
No i meant vedic scrpits explain the so called "dance" indian people did back in the day. During the Xia dinasty there were not hundreds of emperors so one of them probably did travel to "somewhere" and saw "something" he found effective as means to hurt "someone" or defend against "someone" etc etc. Ridiculous as it is chinese martial arts or just martial arts itself are as ancient as history. I seriosly doubt anybody actually knows what happened.
NewFriiiikan 6 months ago
@ervin920
Yoga is generally Hindu. China has one of the largest Muslim populations on earth. Islam has been in china for 1400years and some of the most powerful styles of Chinese kungfu were created by Muslims.
TheaSinensisSerpenti 6 months ago
muslim kung fu rocks
yausonb 1 year ago
most martial forms are created by Muslims Hindu and Buddhists
flysnake12 1 year ago
may ALLAH bless you brother.
DEADreef 1 year ago 13
muslim can doing any skill like kung fu everythuing, wht world blame islam is nothing terror
lahij 1 year ago 4
@lahij Wait what are you trying to say, I cant understand what you have writen
DORC101 2 months ago
kung fu master? cool
RazorX53 1 year ago
acctually marital arts was brought to religious groups by former bandits and soldier who wanted to repent and teach religious groups to defennd themselves
kaindrg 1 year ago