Pat Martino - Four On Six

[SixStringSolid]

oh my god. wyomissing?? thats like 5 minutes from my house!

[incasarec]

supergenius!!!

[AlterGTR]

thanks for posting man

[wakanabeotai]

How fine he plays the sectoin Cm Bbm Am Ebm

this theory is explained in his book linear expression

[Sankukai11]

Oh my god Pat's playing is dazzling as usual but who the hell is the piano player? did he ever heard any of the notes Pat played while comping? no music no response nothing god this guy doesn't know how to comp please send him to listen some Grant Green/Sonny Clark or Wes/Wynton Kelly or even Petern Bernstein with Martin Sasse my goodness there's no worse piano player to play with.... By the way Joe Pass/Mike Wofford album is incredible some great solos from Mike... Rick you need to listen music

[DWillygtr]

@Sankukai11 your a jackass

[djbot]

@DWillygtr seriously.. what a fucking dick

[GeorgiaBoy1961]

@Sankukai11: My gosh, no kidding... the piano player is mangling it, and the drummer is overplaying, too. Their comping is way too busy for a player like Martino; as you note, woodshedding some Wynton Kelly (and Jimmy Cobb) would be a good start...

[djbot]

@Sankukai11 how do you know if he did or didn't hear the notes in his solo. fuckin retard. maybe he chose to comp in the way he did. maybe he just liked the feel of his hits. you can't even see the piano player nor do you know what was or wasn't going through his head at the time. you seem like one of those really mediocre players who thinks he is way better than he really is. a real musician is modest about his playing.

[Sankukai11]

@djbot ´cos of your language... you sound very educated but whatever... please listen to Wes version of Nicas Dream with Pim Jacobs on piano, and a 17 yo Han Bennink on drums. That video from 1965 is the first time they play together and please pay attention to the way the kid plays the drum. He does it tons of times better than guy on this video. Please have a look at Peter Bernstein + Dr Lonnie Smith as well. And please do not course on ppl for saying their opinion bloody idiot.

[djbot]

@Sankukai11 hah. post something of you playing. dont show me videos. i know theyre great. and obviously you don't know the definition of course. quite sad. i thought all you brits were smart. I am clearly not hunting you with hounds. you know nothing about music

[djbot]

@Sankukai11 lol because of my language i sound educated? since when were you able to see what degrees i have through my use of language? silly englishman. my point is you dont know what was going through the piano players head as he played the piece. please dont course on someone just because they dont meet your expectations

[markjr97]

What an amazing guitarist! His personal story is fascinating too. This guy would sound great through any amp. He endorsed Parker Fly guitars too.

[jamesedwardtheobald]

why don't jazz guitarists like treble?

[cm0220ster]

@jamesedwardtheobald Probably to maintain some of the old warmth from the old days when jazz was primarily acoustic music.

[oirambagdarell]

Really nice improvisation now watch this one is awesome! youtube.com/watch?v=e7NHwtkM7C­s

[calzonecrusher]

3:00 - 3:12 is an epic buildup! Thanks for sharing :)

[CRRochaGuitar]

CRRocha_Guitar

The Real Pat Martino more the spirit of Wes Montgomery in the air

Great

note=100

[mondodave]

that's sick...

[lindseyblair]

A Marshall amp!!!!!!

[limaktba]

@lindseyblair Perhaps just marshall cabinets. Might be powered by acoustic image head.

[BadSneakers]

Mr. Martino will be playing on Lee Ritenour's next album, Six String Theory, along w/ other cats like John Scofield, George Benson, Mike Stern, Steve Lukather, Robert Cray, BB King, Keb Mo, Joe Bonamossa, and Robben Ford.

[JazzyZenBrotha]

@ BadSneakers - Wow! Thanks for the info man. I'll have to pick up that new album. If they'll have George Benson and Pat Martino on the same album that's good enough for me. Not to mention, you say BB King will be on there too? Man, I can't wait!

[hedba]

He got these monster hands.. anyway that was great!

[dragginleftnut]

Pat you just keep getting better,,, I enjoy your interviews,,

[sprechstimme]

It's kind of ridiculous to compare these 2 great guitarists, they each stand on their relative merits. However, I can sometimes hear the influence of the older player, Martino on the younger Metheny in some of his pharasing (not a bad thing!) Also, Pat Metheney left a tribute meesage on Martino's guestbook saying, "Pat, you are the real Pat".

[mrgone78]

martino and metheny are coming from two very different musical perspectives, and indeed individually emerged from two very different historical periods (the mid 60s and mid 70s are two very, very different periods in history). It is totally ridiculous to compare these two.

[PatrickManzecchi]

...well, comparing is human... and inhuman at the same time, right? In fact, completely unnecessary, I agree... both, Martino and Metheny are great. Period. How dare somebody judge those cats...

[lorenzopetrocca]

danke patrick, ich kannte es schon, wie fast alles von pat...er ist der beste:-)

[x2mars]

great video thanks

[gunfart]

too good

[GuitarScorp]

I was at this show and chatted with Pat before showtime. He's one of the kindest people you'll ever meet. His signature Gibson guitar is to die for. Thanks for the memories!

[klookmopify]

Yea, I guess Elvin Jones(Mr. Thunder) is a rock drummer as well.

[salhervi]

Wes Montgomery, The Boss Guitar playing by Pat Martino

[Chewy123450]

2:33-3:05

[notatooma222]

Ya, he does that -repeat a lick- at every show in one or more songs. At first I just thought it was kinda funny but it is part of his style.

[lorenzopetrocca]

wow..pat..love you:-)

[SRVMOE]

i've followed Pat since 1973 and

on many occasion saw George Benson

at his shows !!!!! No one and I mean nobody

can touch him !!!!

[Blackbond007]

You obviously have not been to a Pat Metheny concert then. Martino is great, but Metheny is on another level.

[boomerangfarm]

They are quite different, but hanging on the same level where it just doesn't get any better. Martino grooves harder, Metheny's got an amazing style, etc. etc. Just love em both!

[TheBassfresh]

lots of leaves at the top of a tree ;-)

[AKOutback]

Pat is of course killin. just the cleanest lines out there. But I also love Rick Germanson's solo, it's his own style but also putting in elements of the past recordings.

[Blackbond007]

You are TRULY buggin out with that comment right there!!!

[exprocrastin8or]

He is SMOKIN!

[meirrose]

i love Pat's approach to the guitar.  he's truly a genius!

[XEpikurX]

Great guitar-playing by Pat Martino!

[THEDC3]

I'll never forget when Matt Wallace invited me out to Pat Martinos show...What a night. God damn he's not one of my favorites but the man's a legend and sure as hell can play jazz.

[rickso12]

Pat can make any amp sound like jazz, he is amazing

[everrice87]

Mr Pat,

Outstanding, its good to see the art of great jazz guitar playing living . Keep rollin on the changes my friend. This would of made Wes proud.

[InternetToughGuyXL]

Pat's playing through a Marshall cab???!!!

[DWillygtr]

2 marshall cabs actually haha

[franklinpeach]

@InternetToughGuyXL I love it that he's playing through marshalls. Basically a stack on it's side, by the looks of it..

[oldpython]

Pat, there will never be another you!

[Arikisei]

god bless mr.montgomery...,pat

[antalvic]

Grande Pat Martino! Ho avuto l'onore di ascoltarlo dal vivo ed è stata una grande emozione!!!

[jplent]

Pat Martino is the greatest!!

Pete L'Angelle

Los Angeles CA

[Jcooker19]

Astonishing... I can't believe he's achieved this level after having to re-learn how to play from scratch.

[chumfilter]

I've heard horn players see he's not swingin much, f**k em.

[myyt4n]

Pat is a wonderful talent and a true professional. Additionally, he's highly intelligent and a very deep thinker. I had the pleasure of conversing with him and he has a lot to offer intellectually, above even his incredible musical talent.

[Dohey]

this is amazing!!! i though wes montgomery was freakishly good!!!

[Arikisei]

go johnny go

[50Stringbass]

i think if i played guitar instead of bass, the only things i would want to play other than guns n roses would be jazz just cuz it looks fun...

[guitarpizzaman]

great song

pat did it well

[guitarttimman]

Pat Martino = Jazz Master :-)

[brucebud]

Very nice clip. Rick Germanson is using some of Pat's signature rhythmic devices to great effect. An Pat's lines are as seamless as ever!

[Gminor7]

Lightning flashes and thunder rolls from Pat's guitar.

[troimaclur]

Sorry for my english i'm from argentina

If you want to play like pat, simply study his books and videos, he explain how to play the substitutions, all of them bassed on the dorian scale with passing tones b5 , b9 , b11 , b13 and chromatics.

But remember, you sound like pat, not like you.

[oldpython]

I have been listening to Pat since he was a kid and I have yet to hear any guitarist who can perform Pat Martino's music just like Pat. If he exists he is doing a great job of being unknown. It's no the notes, it's the music.

[AKOutback]

I think one thing that defines a great player is when other players try to make vast attempts in how you play... how you think as a player... Everywhere on here is discussion on what pat is using, theoretical, technical and all. Not everyone wants to sound like pat which is fine, but everyone wants to know his approach.

[7LQQ9]

So much genius here. Great band. I especially like the piano of Rick Germanson. His playing really works well with Pat's style. A lot or great fire and beauty here in this clip. Pat is one of those otherworldly artists. Thanks for posting it DWillygtr!

[KW911]

he plays a marshall cab?

[gunfart]

most speakers are the same, the only difference is the quality. i think theres only 3 different qualitys of speaker and it will say it on the back of the speaker on the magnetic thing.

[gdevane]

Pat Martino is a genius! Plain and simple. Ask Pat Matheny, George Benson or any other living jazzmaster and they will tell you. I've read quotes from them and many others on how great he is. So if anyone else doesn't get his lines so what? Yes, he did learn to play all over from scratch so he really can say he's forgotten more about jazz than most will ever learn! Then he learned it all over again!

[brucebud]

What a relentlessly fluid improvisor. I just saw Pat live last night in NYC with Eric Alexander Quartet and I feel so blessed to have been there. Such a marvelous gift of swing, clarity, harmonic logic!

[ectomy1235]

Didn't he have an accident and he had to relearn how to play all over again?

[PunkChick350]

o.o i think.....ns (not sure)

[mwljazzguitar]

He had a severe brain aneurysm and after he had an operation on it, he couldn't remember anything about playing guitar for 3 or 4 years. He learned how to play again by listening to his old records. All of his memories eventually came back.

[ectomy1235]

thanks for that i wasnt sure what happened to him

[guitarttimman]

Pat Martino is the greatest Jazz player. He developed his own sound. Pat Martino is the "Jimmy Page" of Jazz. And Jimmy Page is the "Pat Martino" of rock. So why u think of that?

[upT3mpo]

"I hate good music".

WTF? Man, i'm impressed. I didn't know morons could type enough to vent their tiny minds on the arts...wow.

Martino is a gun...but Wes was the greatest!

[annayork]

if you dont like martino lines its you not him hahaha . theres a reason hes such a renowned player, he has the ear, you dont, this applies to 99% of jazz guitar players.

[Jcooker19]

I agree 100 %. I've always found his lines to be very well constructed, to an unusual degree. And his playing is extremely melodic to my ears... It just sounds so hip!

[chumfilter]

You talkin to me? I love Pat, my point was screw the horns that say he doesn't swing. Saw him at Catalinas in the 90's, he was amazing.

[Jcooker19]

No, I meant to reply to someone else, the reply thing isn't working right or something. By the way, I don't know why horn players say that. Bebop is mostly about straight eights anyway, what do they want...some clumsy, bouncy swing eighths? His phrasing and attack sound like that of some trumpet players to me a lot of the time. No surprise that he used to play that instrument. :)

[TimmyPage06]

By the nature of the pick attack it's easy to swing on guitar.. but the way I see it is that there's a certain speed on each instrument where it's hard to keep any semblance of swing - strings (violin, guitar etc) seem to hit it faster than most, again by the nature of our pick attack.

Horns seem to go on forever - we've all heard Charlie Parker swing at absolutely disgusting speeds.

[Jcooker19]

Depends on how you "hit" the string. I find it easier to play with good time when the resistence of pick versus string is greater. It's hard to tell what kind of angle Pat plays with. He's always had a real fat tone, not thin or brittle. He can swing when he wants to, play straighter when he wants. He does not have that overly bouncy swing feel, but most great jazz players go for something in between anyway. It's like Jelly Roll Morton - in between bouncy swing and stiff straight eighths.

[nexzxt]

don't hate because you can't understand martino's music, you prolly don't have the ear to anyway.

[DWillygtr]

Thank you nexzxt

[pickinvidders]

What is it about anonymous posting that brings out the bratty 3-year old in about 90% of posters? Sad thing.

[mesaboogie]

Call me crazy but this performance leaves me cold. Every line and lick in the original Four On Six was soulful, melodic, and memorable. Here it seems like Pat just wanks through linear scales and arpeggios throughout the entire piece with nothing memorable or melodic.

[DWillygtr]

Yeah dude your a jackass

[Cjulien91]

You're not crazy, he gives me that at times to. Although

Pat Martino does some great stuff in his solos, too. The problem is that I don't think that he's trying to make a

story out of his solos.

[noonward]

You can't know. Don't be a baby.

[mwljazzguitar]

Erm....his solo is very melodic. Just in a different way than Wes' was on the original. Wes liked to stick to dominant 7th and blues licks, and tritone substitutions. Pat's approach to the guitar is simple; substitute every chord with a minor, and pedal like none other. However, in the first couple chourses of this solo, he actally quotes Wes EXACTLY, numerous times from the original Four on Six recording. Do more analyzing before you make hasty generalizations like that.

[Jcooker19]

I'm calling you crazy. There are different styles of improvisation, and Pat has always had a vocabulary-based approach, with some motivic improvisation as well. Just because you don't dig his style doesn't mean it's not musical or at a high level.

[Nu9v9]

@mesaboogie i dont know what Seems to you but this is gold and you say its plastic. show the audio only to the best jazz musician you ever met and let him talk about this to you. try it :D

[improvisations]

I was there! It was cooking!

[miamibeach640]

a true MASTER of jazz music- not just the guitar, on which he has chops beyond most players regardless of idiom.

[delpuckett]

have any of you guys heard of Larry Carlton :-) JK!!

[elnombre2]

he ALLWAYS does a repeat phrase like that for like 30 mins. i once famously went out and got a subway at a gig and he was still playing the same repeat phrase when i got back. great sandwich, awsome gig.

[JazzyJunior]

Haha. Woo-hoo Jazzers!

[chlebsco]

HEY...I was at the very same show that rainy spring evening. The guys playing was fantastic and Scott and Craig were very nice to hang out and chat after their set.

[rpaul5150]

oh. I see now. The drummer had it on the D7alt hang, but lost it IMHO. His first round was killer though.

[rpaul5150]

sorry. I meant D7#9 at 5:00-5:20

[rpaul5150]

I've been watching this several times and I think my favorite part is the rhythm that occurs on the G7#9 the pianist keeps pounding in. It keeps begging for more and they touch upon it. I wish they would have expanded more. Too afraid? That where rock music is useful. Perhaps...

pounding in at 5:00

[rpaul5150]

I consider myself a very smart guy musically and these dudes put me to shame in the musical thought department. Good show guys!

[DWillygtr]

hey rdblues you suck

[kalahar007]

yea i totally agree with you RDblues, Django really kicks everyones asses--haha-- you dumb fuck, what are you thinking??

[rpaul5150]

well... Wes was dually organic (meaning he didn't play with a pic). So his sound was much more subtle (analogous to a drummer using traditional grip). But that's just not how we were all taught. Wes was an anomaly. It's not a fair comparison. Just give Pat just deserves. He's brilliant.

[mothermoore]

That like saying an apple is better than an orange ,Pats is Pat and Wes is Wes.

[Sunderlanding]

@mothermoore What's wrong with saying an apple is better than an orange? If that's what you think then go ahead and say it!

[joloroniluv7]

yea your mom likes 14s...inside her.

[Zapppppp]

HAHAHA!

[kalahar007]

fantabuloulsy intricate! I can't believe he gets this great tone out of .08 gauge strings!!! woweee

[handdancin]

he plays .14's fool

[simguit]

He's not playing 14's! What are you thinking? No one plays .14's. He's probably playing 11's or 12's with his tone knob set to zero.

[rpaul5150]

Go buy some jazz strings at your local music store. Then look at the guage of the E string. Let this be a lesson in "you don't know as much as you think you know"

[simguit]

He's endorsed by GHS strings, and ghs don't even make .14.

[rpaul5150]

Since when did musicians use the equipment they endorsed? lol. Why do you think they pay him to endorse their products?

[rpaul5150]

I can tell by listening to him that he's using heavy strings. It's about not having the strings bend easy when you do sweeps and the tone is just beautiful. Go buy some jazz strings and try them.

[rpaul5150]

No one plays .14's? lol. Tell that to George Benson. Remember, they aren't doing ANY bends.

[rpaul5150]

Actually, it sounds like .13's. But that's just my ear.

[archtop16]

I don't know anout now, but Pat definitely used .14's in the old days. He also used a pick made of ebony.

[qwerasdf121]

u guys are all losers

[improvisations]

Definitely 13's

[DWillygtr]

JUST TO CLEAR EVERYTHING UP PAT MARTINO USES 15s

[sthetix]

He uses La Belle, Pat Martino signature guitar strings, and yes, .015 high E.

BTW, so do I, as a result of studying with him. 15s are pretty heavy but you get used to them.

[jasoncasper16]

Thank you!!! I was reading this string and it is funny how many people said he used 13's or less... It is well documented how heavy his strings are in most articles. In fact, there was an old Les Paul that Pat owned that was being sold at Sam Ash in Manhattan and the grooves in the nut had to be rerouted because the standard grooves were way to small for the gauge string he used way back then.

[NoirMusic]

The nut on a stock LP would have to be rerouted slightly to put 11s or 12s on so that doesn't say much...

[jasoncasper16]

These were pretty wide grooves... They were carved out in between the regular grooves. This was during the 70's when he was also experimenting with 5 strings. But he has always used very heavy strings. Almost any article talks about this. He says it in the Creative Force videos too, that he uses a gauge 15 string. He explained that he used to break strings like rubber bands and kept going heavier. As a teen he was told him to pick lighter but he said it didn't feel right to him.

[NoirMusic]

Also according to Pat's website he is using GHS strings and the heaviest gauge GHS electric strings are only 11's. So unless he is using Baritone guitar strings or accoustic strings...

[gracehamguitar]

GHS makes heavier stock sets than that. I work in a music store that carries them. You can also have custom sets made up by GHS if you are a dealer.

[NoirMusic]

Fair point, plus he is a huge name...not like they don't do custom work for celebs...

[nevertoofast2]

Simply fantastic. Pat is certainly playing better than ever. It had been awhile since I listened to "Remember" and the other day I put it on in the car and again was just astounded by how good it is.

[markauckland]

he didnt have a stroke, he had a brain operation which wiped his musical memory, but it slowly came back to him. he is a true living ledgend

[NAFTALI2]

Tells you about the power of music. I'm no medical researcher, but were I, I'd put playing music right up there with exercise, diet, and red wine.

[teemingup]

Yeah, and it happened twice. Amazing. He came back twice.

[jazzmullin]

Pat sounds like a whole symphony. Pays tribute to Wes and even brings something new to the song. The man had a stroke forgot how to play and reloaded better than ever.

[renixe]

Simply awesome, thanks for providing the video.

[kalahar007]

2:32-3:09 hells yea

[53160]

He does that often..

[achinghunger23]

he loves that line. he plays it in the video of him and sco playing Sunny

[kurtrosenwinkel]

LOL, yupp. That one and that open string line he does on the E string sometimes.

[spigty]

Exactly!