Most Greeks are crooks they have sucked life out of immigrants they all should pay back EUs money you all are bad blood suckers how you have treated immigrants in Greece very very bad may God truly give you punishment of your inhumane behaviour against immigrants na gamiete oli sas makati na di o khristo ti Exeter kanie stous alodapous MAKARI NA DI P THEOS
GREEK CIVIL SERVANTS IN KEY POSITIONS BLOCK MONEY ABSORPTION FOR TECHNOLOGY APPLICATIONS AND HEALTHY BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT ASKING ARTFULLY FOR 30-50% UNDER THE TABLE!!! THEY RAPE OUR MONEY TIME AND FUTURE!!! PLEASE FELLOW EUROPEANS, SAVE US HELP US!!! IT IS YOUR MONEY TOO!!! NOT ALL GREEKS ARE CROOKS THIEVES AND CRIMINALS!!!
This is what happens after 30 years of socialism! The spoiled children of Greece are protesting because they can no longer retiring at 50 year old and waste the rest of their pathetic lives at cafes complaining about the government the feeds them!
But the latter will NOT happen when people can buy less and less. this will lead to unemployment and an increase in demand for public payments to the unemployed. Capitalism has 'healthy forces' within it such as the fact that public consumption can lead to recovery b/c it pours money bacvk into the economy and feeds the zillion of small bussinesses that constitute 60% of non-governmental economy in Greece. These forces are being extremely suppressed under the current plan
πραγματικα δεν καταλαβαινω γιατι (σκοτωνεσται)ελληνες με ελληνες επειδη εσυ (υποθετω)απο το nikname σου εισαι πατριωτης και καλα κανεις και εισαι, με τους αντιεκσουσιαστες που αν το δεις αντικειμενικα κανουν το ιδιο...
απλα πολεμουν αυτους που τους βαρανε ,τους πυροβολουν....ελεος μια ζωη μας γαμουσαν οι ξενοι οπως τωρα επειδη δεν ημασταν ενωμενοι σαν εθνος ανεξαρτητα τις πολιτικες πεποιθησεις του καθε ενος....
μηπως αν αλλαξει αυτο πραγματικα αλλαξει αυτη η κατασταση????
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The economic measures that have been passed by the Greek gov are straight out of IMF's neo-conservative ideological arsenal and they will NOT help recovery. Many economists are of the opinion that the most important element in recovery is to maintain the public's buying power. The issue is NOT whether Greece will be able to pay back the loan; this can happen under healthy economic recovery
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The EU is giving money down a black hole, the Greeks don't know the meaning of reform or freezes or cut backs due to their current economic crisis, just like many economies are going through. How can a country sustain itself when it has more public sector workers than private sector workers?
@murk2002 If that's the case, the EU is pouring money down many "black holes", like Roumania, Spain, Portugal, and the UK. The practice that a country's borrowing ability depends on an artificial credit rating which is manufactured in many cases to suit the needs of the lender, is widespread and WILL lead to more problems with other economies. Boundless borrowing is also widespread and actually
ENCOURAGED b/c of the profit potential. So Greece is just the tip of the iceberg
And the people bought into it because it gave them jobs, education, and pensions. I recently remember ex-prime minister Karamanlis running off to Australia promising Greek pensions to the members of the diaspora there. And Australia, mind you has some of the best social security systems in the world, these folks there are already covered way over and above the Greek state's ability to undertake such flamboyant gestures.
Also it is a FACT that we have been 'cooking' the figures on the economy for the last 10 years, i.e. under-representing borrowing and deficits in our European reports. What were the politicians thinking? That it will all go away if we sweep it under the rug? At the same time they encourage even more consumer debt in order to create the fallacious middle-class haven that they thought will maintain them in power.
Besides, the EU has provided much needed capital for infrastructure modernization that was sorely lacking in the country. The 'Eleutherios Venizelos", the Akropolis Museum, the Rio-Antirio bridge, the national highways, de-salinazation plants on Greek islands, hefty farmer subsidies, how all of the sudden we forget about all that? Money of course always comes with a price. But this price has been disproportionately inflated by own paternalistic political system.
The Plan is ONE!!! "Dominate the world" this is the job of the wall-street monkeys,
Us and Uk got this plan for years now, the invisible war has all-ready started years now everything is a target, and the No1 GOAL is Greece coz if they slave us, they will
easy slave everyone, they can wash everyone with media and sound, they even controle the weather (search about HAARP + Orgonite) and WE ARE NOT SHITING THERE AND WACTH THEM, BUT WE WILL FIGHT BACK WITH THE SAME WEAPONS ,Rhodes/Greece
So, Mantelis (PASOK minister) took 500,000 EU from Siemens...with knowledge of the mother company I wonder? So far only one exec of the German Siemens has been implicated...but the money to the bank accounts in Switzerland must've come from Germany. Not that the Greeks are innocent of course...but the ways that one administers the 'colonies' has a direct impact on how the 'colonized' act as well...
@FireFox9032 Ok, facts: where exactly in the WSJ did you read that 80% don't pay taxes? Could you be a little specific? I did a search for "greece tax evation" on the site but didn't come up with anything.
If the Greeks had any intelligence they should hang their politicians, seize their valuables that were stolen, leave the EU and the euro, make friends with the Russians and Chinese
@5hitter "If Greeks had any intelligence..." ok (S)hitter, lets leave that one out...it tells more about your intelligence than anything else, lol..2) "hang the politicans.." if hangings start, they will end..besides its a constitutional democracy, not your uncle's tsantir, lol 3)"leave EU and Euro..." out of the question 4) "make friends with the Russians and Chinese..." no, thanks I'll stick with the Germans..at least they sit down on thenegotiating table before theystart to squeeze yourballs
@ellin40-The politicians got this country into this mess and you say we will be lost without them? How stupid can you be? We survived wars and conquests without them. I am sure we can survive if we give power back to the majority of the people not let a minority decide the fate of a country. What are you a nazi or communist thinking that way? The so called 'civilized' West has never been a true frind to Greece and if you read history you would not make such silly comments
@5hitter we survived wars and conquest but leadership has played a role too. Mavrokordatos and Kapodistrias are two more recent examples of of the upright kind of leader and politician. Venizelos too. Reform the system yes BUT within the confines of representative democracy with a Constitution. Politicians will continue to exist, it's a question of what kind we need
@ellin40-With todays politicians we cannot have what you are saying. The political junta will not go down without a fight and it is the peoples responsibility to take back power and punish them. We do not need politicians and people who come from rich and powerful families who have no idea on how the common person lives.
@ellin40-Your so called friends of the West get loans to fund their deficits from the Chinese at half the interest rate and then give it back to us at full rate like the World Bank at full rate.Did you know that moron? And who gave you the right to allow politicians to place Greece into the EU and euro without a democratic referendum stupid nazi and communist?
@5hitter first of all you cannot by definition be both a communist and a Nazi...get your bigotry right. Second, the Greek public overwhelmingly approved membership in the-then EEC and continues to support European membership in spite of the crisis. Third if you see Greece outside of Europe, provide the alternative. Fourth you need the RIGHT politicians with vision and guts, the kind we haven't produced since Venizelos.
@ellin40-I said the minority who placed Greece in the EU and its supporters are nazi's and communists which is the same thing-Totalitarian, barbaric and undemocratic.There was no referendum to vote entering either the EU or euro. To take polls and figures especialy from governmnet sources in not a reliable source especially from corrupt politicians who are by profession -LIARS!! The alternative is a Greece free from political biaseness and the people NOT!!! lamogia take back power.
@5hitter Are you tripping? What Nazis and Communists? It was Karamanlis the elder who initiated negotiations. The Greek Communists have been steadfastly AGAINST EU membership, let alone initiate it. And the majority of Greek people are pro-EU since the early days. So it's not a minority that is pro-Europe in Greece. As for taking back power, HOW? Give concrete advise, not aphorisms
@ellin40- You are missing the point. If a country says it is democratic then it should ask the people by referendum any issue that concerns the future of the country. If only a minority decides then it is not democratic.Get it now? Anyone who is against the EU does not mean they are communist. Its called patriotism which has nothing to do with politics. YOU!! are saying the people like the EU. People should not vote for them and storm parliament like a real peoples revolution and arrest them
@5hitter if you HAD a point I wouldn't be missing it. You propose nothing other than general aphorisms against the politicians and the banking system. Referendums are not widespread in a democracy, electons are held instead in regular intervals. Referendum on what? Referendums are "yes" "no" affairs; so what's your question? "Do you want to belong in the EU'? Greeks would say "yes" as they always have. SO WHAT IS THE FRAGGING POINT YOU'RE MAKING?
@ellin40-What is so difficult to understand? A referendum on do the Greeks want to stay in the EU and the euro considering they never voted on the topic.You understand and accept elections as a concept. Then why cant you understand REFERENDUM!!!
PS-If the Greeks will say yes or no then let them prove it democratically. Your opinion and the governments opinion polls do not count as reliable sources
@5hitter No political party is calling for referendum; no unions are calling for withdrawal from the EC (besides KKE's usual rhetoric); no student organizations express strictly anti-EC sediment; the military is certainly to no extend against it, or NATO for that matter. So who do you represent? The same minority that kills innocent civilians in banks in the most horrible way?
@ellin40-And you do not find what you have just said strange? That everyone who is in a position of power has sold out and you find that normal? Not everyone who wants Greece to return to the drachma and wants Greece to be free from the EU is a communist. They are called patriots. Maybe your YouTube name ellin should be changed to euro40 as you do not speak like you are Greek otherwise you would not have sent me your comment.
@5hitter Everyone in position of power plays specific role in the established socio-economic order and allocation of status and power, "sold out" is generic and unspecific. This is not an EU problem, it is our problem and don't see how exiting the EU will help any, that's all I'm saying
@ellin40 -True you have a point. The Greek people however have not seen any real benefits promised by the EU-Only excuses for our politicians to steal more and take out more loans and worse from the EU.
@5hitter I will reiterate my previous point: the current crisis is NOT EU's fault. We can blame the international pool of money, JP Morgan, the endless speculation that characterizes the stock market etc. The Greek political system in the post-1974 era relied on heavy foreign borrowing to create a middle class that, frankly, took the bait and seemed to be content with its status--until now. So it's a lot more complicated than just blaiming the EU
@ellin40-The EU knew where it was giving its money to-they are equally to blame.The Greek people were never asked by democratic referendum if they wanted to join the EU and the euro. Instead they allowed corrupt polticians of a corrupt political junta who rule in suits instead of military uniforms to decide for them.I only regret the millions of Greeks and their efforts, who fought to stay and set themselves free over the centuries were sold out by todays, unworthy to be called, Greeks.
@FireFox9032-You are half right. They are the most taxed nation in the EU and have the least benefits.They do however avoid telling the government of extra income as they feel the politicians will steal it and they do not see the money well spent
@FireFox9032-The points you have mentioned are justified with good reason as the 'West' has never really been a friend to Greece as it prefers to cater to Turkish, albanina, skopjan, bulgarian claims of minority rights in Greece and ignore Greece's even though we have been around a lot longer than our neighbours have been. I will agree most not all Greeks are to blame for todays crisis as they were tolerant and voted for corrupt politicians
NO MORE LOANS TO GREECE!!!The Greeks have no one else to blame but themselves as they voted for these same politicians who have stolen Greece's wealth. They are paying for their tolerance of these thiefs and TRAITORS!!! and they deserve to be punished for the austerity programs.But then again which voter in any country is blamesless
PS-Greece should withdraw from the EU and the euro and return to its currency the drachma
NO MORE LOANS TO GREECE!!!The Greeks have no one else to blame but themselves as they voted for these same politicians who have stolen Greece's wealth. They are paying for their tolerance of these thiefs and TRAITORS!!! and they deserve to be punished for the austerity programs.But then again which voter in any country is blamesless
PS-Greece should withdraw from the EU and the euro and return to its currency the drachma
@FireFox9032 each Greek is out for himself/herself b/c the state has abandoned the average citizen. The state has abandoned the average citizen b/c the state has not produced any visionaries for at least 80 years. Therefore the citizen makes do with whatever at hand. The "comforatbly situated ones" (volepsiakides) are the scourge of every Greek; but at the same time it wouldn't be bad to be one of them.
@FireFox9032 80% don't pay taxes? What are your sources for saying this? There is chronic tax evaton in Greece but 80% is unrealistic: if 80% did not pay taxes there would be NO mney at all. Also, there is no social cohesion? There is SOME cohesion in a state that stays together don't you think? What "fat" Christmas bonuses? Thats the 13th wage, up for axing. With a 13th and 14th wage the average Greek professional will make 20-25,000 EU/year.
@FireFox9032, no, the banks also fucked Greks as well. The same banks that fucked Argentina, lol. Not that Greks are innocent. But, tell me, borrowing at 3 percentile units than everyone else, how does that help the country recover? And why keep downgrading the rating? It just makes recovery harder....but the harder the recovery, the more you borrow...gues from whom ;)
the trick is just that one..public funds rescue private bussines..then they balme debt on public rigths like public health or education..and try to dessapear them ..fuck milton friedman.the world is not a merchindise..people is first...
It's not only the bankers' fault. There are endemic practices in Greek political and economic life that create favoritism, paraeconomy, and unaccountability. And the EE is actually helping, though grudgingly and under the forced realization that Greek collapse will undermine the Euro. Besides, better the EU that the IMF and their scalpers.
@lacan75, thank you for yet another Marxist cliche, but Greek debt is not like that of Latin America. Whereas there western corporations function in neo-colonial conditions, in Greece the debt has been created by public consumption and government overspending. I remember Karamanlis promising pensions to the Australian diaspora, as if they don't already live in a country with one of the best social security networks.....right around election time too....diaspora votes en absentia you know ;)
@ellin40 lol..capitalism has beenworking for the last decades alone..and the number of poor people hasgrown so badly..no need of cliches to see the truth..and the banks rescued with public funds there are no even greeks..lol..publi spending is not a waste..saving banks..thats shit..
@lacan75, I'm not denying the bad aspects of ca[ita;ism. I live in the US where the huge bailouts given to people who fucked the economy through unbounded speculation were in turn used to fuel the insane bonuses for the same CEO's.
@texniki1 oh and i saw your shit about jewish bankers - i suppose jews pull the strings that prevent you from getting along in life, huh? that's a great attitude to find a future. by the way, greeks didn't kill anyone to get their land? how do you know, have you studied history? have you not heard about any greek wars? have you heard about dorians for example?
israelidude26 because moron you have seen one or two vids doesnt mean were violent you hypocrite liar!!YOU DONT KNOW SHIT! our soccer fans are great NOW.. VIOLENThooligans were the BRITS.
murderers ARE the israelians.you see asshole we have problems we will fix, asshole no GREEK has killed a women or child to get his home or land.
@texniki1 to use the word "genocide" is very provocative and stupid. i guess that just because you want to say genocide about what's going on between israelis and palestinians, you feel you can say that. israelis aren't perfect but so aren't muslims, very imperfect they are. i was talking more about your basket ball fans, aris and the like who throw coins.
@texniki1 and talk about being a hypocrite - it was your continent that forced us to fight for a land, including your country and people who were happy to assist in killing its jews, and that's why there are probably no jewish bankers in greece today.
violent people who don't know how to protest and don't understand what a democracy is. look how in all the films the demonstrators are the ones who are violent and not the policemen. a people who doesn't know how to build anything but only to destroy, that is not worthy to be considered the cradle heritage carrier of europe, and even that heritage included much violence.
@israelidude26 How are philosophy, politics, medicine, geometry, art, architecture, language and cuisine violent?... (btw the riot police is corrupt to the bone, you should see them suppress protesters with their buddies from "Golden Dawn", the Neo-Nazi party of Greece...)
@tsimos4eva you can talk about all that, or you can also talk about violence in greek mythology, the iliad, greek mercenaries who were the best and most experienced and alexander of macedon. the point is that in your case the violence seems to spring out of a tendency to it. you also see it in sports, greek fans are the most violent.
@israelidude26 I don't think you can include mythology when we talk about cultural heritage...and ancient history is irrelevant to the matter... I don't see any other European nation influenced by Zeus...and you obviously have a bias..why do you hate the Greeks? Have you ever been here? Ever met one? It is not rational to say a nation has a "tendency" for violence... Plus if you think Greek soccer fans are violent, you haven't been to England and Spain...
There is no sovereign Greece anymore... They are now property of the IMF. What pathetic people. They even had to lie about their finances to even get into the EU. My Greek friends, It's not your country that's pathetic, it's your GOVERNMENT!!! Pick a better family to run your country! Don't make the same mistake we did with the Bush's!
were getting a loan from IMF.there currency isnt dollars nor euro they have THERE DIFFERENT CURRENCY and are able to print as much as they like to the ones they will loan! foook now ive seen it all! now i understand how capitalism works!
JOIN THE NATIONAL STRIKES WORKERS, STUDENTS, FARMERS EVERYONE:)
The strike breakers are those who turn the protests into violence. They threw the molotof into the bank and kileld that woman. these people are probably very familiar faces to our policemen.
@athenaptr THE NEXT TIME EIP GETS IN THE PROTESTS GRAB THEM AND KICK THEIR ASS!!!! AND FOR GOD SAKES LETS JUST START MAKING NEW FUCKING THINGS AT LAST !!!! STOP PROTESTING FOR THE OLD IF WE DO NOT CREATE ANYTHING NEW !!!!
@athenaptr FUCK your strikes. And also fuck the impotency of the politicians and fuck the decade-long complicity of the now outraged public and fuck the foreign masters as well. In general fuck,fuck,fuck, lets make some children, we're soon going to be outbred in our own country lol
haha the government is punished for producing so many government dependents. The government dependents out looking for other peoples money and they get violent when demanding other people's money.
@Fr4nkWh1te dont judge us you ignorant sheep. the media feed you shit, this ^^crisis^^ has nothing to do with the greek people. i dont owe you or anyone cos i didnt practically borrow anything from you. the corrupted goverment did it and they should pay for it. we are guilty ofcourse because we gave them our vote but you are also guilty cos it was also YOUR goverment who is responsible for the corruption.
i don't understand the media's complete and utter out-of-proportion treatment of the Greek "Bail-out" which is really a 3-year loan. Did the media forget that the American people had to bail out the great US capitalistic system, not once, but TWICE? $ 1 trillion bail out of the US Banks by Bush, and $1 Trillion bail-out of the economy by Obama - total $2 Trillion! Why all this obsession with Greece?
So mrs markzen and joaquinveyron,you have met maany greeks in your everyday life and all of them are lazy and frauds....So i guess (and one greek here is not going to fall in your niveau and will use mild terms)every english on earth is drinking tea at exactly 5 o'clock everyday and spends his time praying"god save the queen "Or every french out there cannot get out of their home witthout their berets on.That's plain stupid and shows some heavy ignorance.
And to those who say that we are different from ancient greeks:it s just a way for developped countries to keep on living without inferiority complex.We are the same as we have the same negative points as our ancestors and if nobody was meddling with us in our recent history ,we would have showed that we have the same positive points as well.
The european countries wont lose one bit of the money they give because they have earned way too much all these years that our monuments are in their museums,cause they may be international heritage but the money go the countries who are keeping them.And hasn't anyone heard about what the economists say that the one harming the EU is Germany with her selfish commercial policy.She is one of the reasons the poorer countries suffer
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Pull out the European countries out of the euro! Why do the British, German, French and all the others have to pay for the high-game played by Greek banks? Because they've comitted themselves to it through the euro! Pull out the European nations!
If Europe is lucky the Germans will once again save it from ruin: Like they repulsed the Romans and the Huns, broke our baleful hegemony during the age of Louis XIV and the usurper Napoleon and were close to defeat the Russia and Americans in the last war; now they may bring down the European Union, that bureaucratic nonsense, by so base a thing as money; we French and the Dutch voted in vain against the constitution and got it as treaty still so did the Irish but the Germans may prevail.
@markzen582 Go ask America for aid, because everyone knows you're America's 51st state...your country is controlled by Washington DC! And your enormous debt and deficits, approaching 12% of GDP will be bailed out by Obama.
@markzen582 Oh you're from the UK...which has stolen the worlds culture! Imagine going to the British Museum without the Parthenon Marbles! What would one see? Queen Victoria's underwear?!! LOL...By the way Mr. UK...your country with its huge budget deficit and debt is only in slightly better shape than Greece, Portugal and Spain...who will bail you out Anglo? Your American overlords?!
@jjgreek1 Don't talk bullshit, Vasily. Greeks are the laziest and most corrupt people in Europe. Instead of putting efforts in building up their own economy, they suck out/steal money from the EU by forging finanical statements, lying and now crying like girls. The mess Greece is in has solely to do with the mis-management, insane government spending, corruption and incompetence of the Greeks and nothing else. You should be shameful, get on your knees and beg for forgiveness
@joaquinveyron Greeks are not to blame,Our corrupted goverment is to blame which has stolen all the money from the EU and noone does anything about it, i am a Greek citizen and believe me i didn't get a single cent from the EU, our politicians have become traitors and there is a law which they can't go to prison!! WHY DID THE EU GIVE MONEY TO THE CORRUPTED GREEK GOVERMENT?? DIDN'T THEY KNOW ??(Greek citizens knew)
@joaquinveyron you should get on your knees and thank the Greeks and Greece for introducing some culture into your barbarian existence...thank the Greeks for introducing democracy into your sorry barbarian existence. by the way, thank Greeks for the art they've introduced into your otherwise drab dreary barbarian exstence. By the way, thank Greece for mathematics which allowed you to stop swinging through trees and living in caves. keep thanking Greece even for the name "Europe".
@markzen582 Greece was spared? boy don't they teach you history in the cold rainy north, when you're stuck inside your houses for 10 months out of the year? Med envy is what you have my friend. But don't dispare, you can move to Sunny Greece like 100s of thousands of your German comrads.
LISTEN GREEK PEOPLE! Germany is NOT bailing out Greece! In the Paris Reparations Agreement of 1946 the German war crimes against Greece were billed at 7.1 billion US dollars.
Germany also during occupation (1941-1944) was given a mandatory loan from Greece (yes from Greece to Germany) to the size of 3,5 billions USD.
A total sum of 10,6 billions USD at 1938 prices, not today. Even at a modest interest of 4%, this money accounts to 130 billions USD, half of the total debt of Greece!
@markzen582 German people should not complain about "bailouts" with their sordid history of destroying the world and THEN being bailed about by the American people at the tune of untold Billions of dollars.
@markzen582 calling the mediterranean people lazy shows your true ignorance and lack of history. how can such lazy people have generated all the civilization and inventions that western civilization is based on? Are you Turkish? that might explain your lack of knowledge.
@markzen582 Listen here nazi...if you don't like Greece stay in your rain-soaked, boring lang (wherever that is) - Modern Greeks are decendents of the Ancient Greeks with the same language, same customs, and joy of life. You boring Anglo-Germans are always jealous of the med countries, that's why you come here and buy our land and rest on our beaches. When you pay back the $300 Billion you owe from WWII, we will let you visit our country again. Nazi trash
@Alexiskayak, WW II German reparations amount to something like 800 million not 460 billion. Not that Germany puts all of that up...but Merkel took huge political loss to push this through. Maybe thank you and we'll try harder in the future is more appropriate?
@markzen582 Why are you so bothered by the truth? Germany wiped out the Greek economy and killed 10% of its citizens...time to pay up. Besides, without Greek culture, and civilization, and even the name "Europe" - where would you be now? Still swinging in trees like monkeys. Greece contribution to western civilization is estimated to have been worth $50 Trillion...so pay up nazi!
@markzen582 If Germany hadn't raped the Greek nation during the WWII occupation, Greece would've never been in this situation today. Germany owes the Greek nation 300 Billion Euros for War Reparations. Time to pay up Nazis! And if you don't we'll withhold our fruits and vegetables from you and you will all die of rickets!
annie46664 god bless you.AdriaILIRIA its true banksters and criminals and
corrupted politicians is what brought us here.greeks will get over this.
god bless portugal and spain who have a huge debt as well.its all in the game the debt crisis.the game is to drop your head and keep saying yes yes.but they dont know that the greeks fight as one.
greece problem was that they had corupt govermant that manipulating statistics for so many years,also a country that spend so much money for millytary defence is hard to survive long .
@TheZikkiminkoku You Turkish crap..Your complex of inferiority leads you make comments even for the Greek crisis,like Greek people should feel guilty for something they don't deserve..We don't lick anyone's ass you dumb..The ones that are humiliated are our fake-jew politicians that betray the blood of our ancestors..Yes,you guessed right..the ones that fucked you turks all the way and send them back to Anatolia..Come Again you moron
Inevitably, the ones who suffer most from corruption and the economic devastation it spawns are the poor—the ones who are rarely in a position to bribe anyone. As The Economist succinctly put it, corruption is but one form of oppression. corruption only "works" when the majority are honest ? so the %90 will subsidise the %10 of crooks ,the financial institutions have had to fight it out in the financial arena ,in the process %90 have cut corners and broken the law ?so what next ?????
to what dude said about u guys being judged by how your acting,hey protesting and kitting cops when doing so,and actualy standing up against your governemtn,is awsome,u guys are doing great,i hope your country stays strong minded americans are unwilling to stand cause there chiken,and if any american wants to say something to that,bet u 20 he cant show u ,all he or she can do is say something,but words are nothing and funny thing,they let there government rule them like slaves and wont step up
@imatelly. I am involved with maby patriot groups from the TEA parties to Militia. Although many people are joining, it is disheartening as to how small of a percentage of the population it is. The more people who wake up and start to prepare, the less people will suffer and die.
your an ignorant person americans have been fighting wars for hundreds of yrs dieing for what we believe in a decade now weve been protesting the bs going on in this country so dont sit behind your computer like a coward an talk down about america when you have nothing to support what you say we dont go out and riot and kill police for no reason doesnt solve shit
Yes, I know, but not only the Olympics. It is clearly evident that Greece was growing ahead of its capacity in the past 10 years. From 2000 to 2008 Greece GDP averaged 4.1% real growth rate. Well above the EU average of 2.5% and only behind Ireland. That's unreal for an already developed nation, mainly an European nation full of taxes and using the Euro which would only work in very rich and competitive nations such as Germany, Netherlands, etc.
And the Olympics could have worked much better for Athens, just look at Barcelona or Sydney post-olympics.
Another important thing is that Athens 2004 culminated in a period of fear over terrorist attacks and they had to improve the security budget from $ 300 million to $ 1.2 billion. Money that wasn't planed to be spent, and many other problems that happened during the process. But I still think it was worth it, because the greeks did a great party.
teh Eu fucked greece up taht's why they are so angry.Britain is angry about how the Eu is walking over them,chargeing us 40 million pounds a day to be in it,when we just get milked.we want out of hte Eu as well
@ccclllsport There are many reasons, the E.U controls the way your agriculture works, and while the Euro is in a high you can not export, but just import products. Greece had some traditional agricultural products olive oil, oranges, potatoes, sugar, tobbaco, this market controlled by the E.U so things become difficult. The tobbaco started to collapse even due to anti-smoking campain (imagine if Cuba could not sell cigars). If you add the major stock market ka-boom in 1993, the Olympics 2004
@ccclllsport Don't talk bullshit, Vasily. As much I dislike banks in general, as much it is clear that the banks who no speculate against Greece has nothing to do with the crisis or better with this mess that is due to Greek inferiority. Of course, banks bet against Greece now, but only because Greece is in such a bad situation for which it is responsible itself, or who has to be made responsible for the corruption, crime, forgery, big gov spending, waste, inefficiency, laziness??
To everyone from rich countries critisizing the greeks,i say this:Greeks are getting the lowest salaries and are getting even the most basic products at the most expensive prices.They are the poorest strugglist everyday to live and the EU asks for even more sacrifices to pay a debt their corrupt governments and their comrades are to blame for.And to those who accuse as of not paying any taxes:There is indeed a percentage that doesn't pay (not all the greeks)but let me say this,
@rocketspeedy Vasily, what the fuck are you talking??? " last 25years about the military expenditures against an ally(Greece)selling us all products in above 100% than other allies "
Fact is that Greece receives 40 bn EUR from Brussels. This is EUR 5000 per capita. And now we will waste another EUR 125 bn. on you suckers.
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PLEASE, do check out the ANIMAL ABUSE
in greece, it's islands and crete, the DAILY MASS POISONINGS and other forms of ABUSE ... it's all on you tube!
very sad, and BARBARIC to say the least!
so i do hope they are 'discarded' from the UN, they must be taught a lesson one way or another! this country has become a freak show ... always protesting & complaining about something or another, causing shit on the streets,
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i personally have NO sympathy for these people whatssoever! they are ALL crooks!
and ..
and the ANIMAL ABUSE that goes on in this country, is a TRAGIC story! they have absolutely NO regard toward animals!
right here on you tube ... check it out!
all the DAILY MASS POISONINGS! crushed glass or rat poison is used and put into some food so the poor dogs & cats get to it and are POISONED to their death. this happens everyday!
Most Greeks are crooks they have sucked life out of immigrants they all should pay back EUs money you all are bad blood suckers how you have treated immigrants in Greece very very bad may God truly give you punishment of your inhumane behaviour against immigrants na gamiete oli sas makati na di o khristo ti Exeter kanie stous alodapous MAKARI NA DI P THEOS
soodgreenwich 1 month ago
@soodgreenwich u r next bitch
OuTRunner12 2 weeks ago
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GREEK CIVIL SERVANTS IN KEY POSITIONS BLOCK MONEY ABSORPTION FOR TECHNOLOGY APPLICATIONS AND HEALTHY BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT ASKING ARTFULLY FOR 30-50% UNDER THE TABLE!!! THEY RAPE OUR MONEY TIME AND FUTURE!!! PLEASE FELLOW EUROPEANS, SAVE US HELP US!!! IT IS YOUR MONEY TOO!!! NOT ALL GREEKS ARE CROOKS THIEVES AND CRIMINALS!!!
apollocapitalgroup 3 months ago
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bankers+lawyers+police+judge+politicians+criminals+terrorist+gamblinglords
+rebelnarcopolitician+dictators+rulers+etc = DIRTY CAPITALIST SCAM PIGS.
BANKERS & DRUGLORDS screwed life & society in human history.
BURN THE BANKS. BURN DRUG LORDS ALIVE & OCCUPY THE WORLD...!!!
BURN THE BANKS. BURN DRUG LORDS ALIVE & OCCUPY THE WORLD...!!!
"GOD dont SAVE the LANDGRABBER CAPITALIST PIG QUEEN"
SAVE the ANIMALS & NATURE. END THE DEBT.
kopellhinex 4 months ago
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This is what happens after 30 years of socialism! The spoiled children of Greece are protesting because they can no longer retiring at 50 year old and waste the rest of their pathetic lives at cafes complaining about the government the feeds them!
HarryFount 4 months ago
Unions are the first guilty of this crisis, For years they imposed higher wages & conditions resulting in bankruptcy.
HAYASER100 5 months ago
KIA ARE THE WORST CARS EVER !!
rufinillo 8 months ago
But the latter will NOT happen when people can buy less and less. this will lead to unemployment and an increase in demand for public payments to the unemployed. Capitalism has 'healthy forces' within it such as the fact that public consumption can lead to recovery b/c it pours money bacvk into the economy and feeds the zillion of small bussinesses that constitute 60% of non-governmental economy in Greece. These forces are being extremely suppressed under the current plan
ellin40 1 year ago
@ellin40
πραγματικα δεν καταλαβαινω γιατι (σκοτωνεσται)ελληνες με ελληνες επειδη εσυ (υποθετω)απο το nikname σου εισαι πατριωτης και καλα κανεις και εισαι, με τους αντιεκσουσιαστες που αν το δεις αντικειμενικα κανουν το ιδιο...
απλα πολεμουν αυτους που τους βαρανε ,τους πυροβολουν....ελεος μια ζωη μας γαμουσαν οι ξενοι οπως τωρα επειδη δεν ημασταν ενωμενοι σαν εθνος ανεξαρτητα τις πολιτικες πεποιθησεις του καθε ενος....
μηπως αν αλλαξει αυτο πραγματικα αλλαξει αυτη η κατασταση????
σωστη σκεψη?
vikskitch 9 months ago
@vikskitch den katalavaino to skeptiko sou. Eisai yper i enantion ton "antieksousiaston"?
ellin40 9 months ago
@vikskitch ti kanoun?olous tous a8wous autous p den kanoun tpt varane k piroboloun...gt tous allous den mporoun poli apla...k san e8nos imastan enomenoi..MONO O POUTANAS GIOI STIN BOULI DEN ITAN ME TON LAO K TIN E3OUSIA EKEI TIN EIXE ENAS MAMAKIAS POU TOU LEEI I BOULGARIKIS POUTANISTIKIS RATSAS MANA TOU TI NA KANEI K SAN KOUTABI TA KANEI...ENAS AN8ELLINAS P EXISE AMERIKI K ME MANA BOULGARA DEN 8ELEI TO KALO TOU KRATOUS...K O PATERAS TOU GT DEN TOU EDINE IPOURGEIO NOMIZEIS??????EEE???
ejokurirulezz 3 months ago
The economic measures that have been passed by the Greek gov are straight out of IMF's neo-conservative ideological arsenal and they will NOT help recovery. Many economists are of the opinion that the most important element in recovery is to maintain the public's buying power. The issue is NOT whether Greece will be able to pay back the loan; this can happen under healthy economic recovery
ellin40 1 year ago
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Poor GAYreeks!! No money for FOOD a ??!!! DIE GAYREEKS from HUNGER !!!!
Until your DEAD fiil GAS from MACEDONIA -we want your little money !!!
MONEY ,MONEY , MUST BE FUNNY IN THE RICHMEN'S WORLD IN MAKEDONIA !!
aahahahaha!!!! DIE GAYREEKS!!!!!
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jsoltisable 1 year ago
The EU is giving money down a black hole, the Greeks don't know the meaning of reform or freezes or cut backs due to their current economic crisis, just like many economies are going through. How can a country sustain itself when it has more public sector workers than private sector workers?
murk2002 1 year ago
@murk2002 If that's the case, the EU is pouring money down many "black holes", like Roumania, Spain, Portugal, and the UK. The practice that a country's borrowing ability depends on an artificial credit rating which is manufactured in many cases to suit the needs of the lender, is widespread and WILL lead to more problems with other economies. Boundless borrowing is also widespread and actually
ENCOURAGED b/c of the profit potential. So Greece is just the tip of the iceberg
ellin40 1 year ago
And the people bought into it because it gave them jobs, education, and pensions. I recently remember ex-prime minister Karamanlis running off to Australia promising Greek pensions to the members of the diaspora there. And Australia, mind you has some of the best social security systems in the world, these folks there are already covered way over and above the Greek state's ability to undertake such flamboyant gestures.
ellin40 1 year ago
Also it is a FACT that we have been 'cooking' the figures on the economy for the last 10 years, i.e. under-representing borrowing and deficits in our European reports. What were the politicians thinking? That it will all go away if we sweep it under the rug? At the same time they encourage even more consumer debt in order to create the fallacious middle-class haven that they thought will maintain them in power.
ellin40 1 year ago
Besides, the EU has provided much needed capital for infrastructure modernization that was sorely lacking in the country. The 'Eleutherios Venizelos", the Akropolis Museum, the Rio-Antirio bridge, the national highways, de-salinazation plants on Greek islands, hefty farmer subsidies, how all of the sudden we forget about all that? Money of course always comes with a price. But this price has been disproportionately inflated by own paternalistic political system.
ellin40 1 year ago
shoot the lazy greek bastards,use real bullets this time
100crawma 1 year ago
@100crawma-Maybe we should shoot the biggest spending and debtor country of hicks, rednecks and trailer trash country in the world
5hitter 1 year ago
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The Plan is ONE!!! "Dominate the world" this is the job of the wall-street monkeys,
Us and Uk got this plan for years now, the invisible war has all-ready started years now everything is a target, and the No1 GOAL is Greece coz if they slave us, they will
easy slave everyone, they can wash everyone with media and sound, they even controle the weather (search about HAARP + Orgonite) and WE ARE NOT SHITING THERE AND WACTH THEM, BUT WE WILL FIGHT BACK WITH THE SAME WEAPONS ,Rhodes/Greece
MrGreeceCrisis 1 year ago
So, Mantelis (PASOK minister) took 500,000 EU from Siemens...with knowledge of the mother company I wonder? So far only one exec of the German Siemens has been implicated...but the money to the bank accounts in Switzerland must've come from Germany. Not that the Greeks are innocent of course...but the ways that one administers the 'colonies' has a direct impact on how the 'colonized' act as well...
ellin40 1 year ago
@FireFox9032 Ok, facts: where exactly in the WSJ did you read that 80% don't pay taxes? Could you be a little specific? I did a search for "greece tax evation" on the site but didn't come up with anything.
ellin40 1 year ago
@FireFox9032 you again ??? loool now i know you are just a smart nice talking racist Greek hater...LOL sad little man ...
SA3LLARX 1 year ago
If the Greeks had any intelligence they should hang their politicians, seize their valuables that were stolen, leave the EU and the euro, make friends with the Russians and Chinese
5hitter 1 year ago 2
@5hitter its going step by step to this my friend we will find a way :) we always do...
SA3LLARX 1 year ago
@5hitter "If Greeks had any intelligence..." ok (S)hitter, lets leave that one out...it tells more about your intelligence than anything else, lol..2) "hang the politicans.." if hangings start, they will end..besides its a constitutional democracy, not your uncle's tsantir, lol 3)"leave EU and Euro..." out of the question 4) "make friends with the Russians and Chinese..." no, thanks I'll stick with the Germans..at least they sit down on thenegotiating table before theystart to squeeze yourballs
ellin40 1 year ago
@ellin40-The politicians got this country into this mess and you say we will be lost without them? How stupid can you be? We survived wars and conquests without them. I am sure we can survive if we give power back to the majority of the people not let a minority decide the fate of a country. What are you a nazi or communist thinking that way? The so called 'civilized' West has never been a true frind to Greece and if you read history you would not make such silly comments
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter we survived wars and conquest but leadership has played a role too. Mavrokordatos and Kapodistrias are two more recent examples of of the upright kind of leader and politician. Venizelos too. Reform the system yes BUT within the confines of representative democracy with a Constitution. Politicians will continue to exist, it's a question of what kind we need
ellin40 1 year ago
@ellin40-With todays politicians we cannot have what you are saying. The political junta will not go down without a fight and it is the peoples responsibility to take back power and punish them. We do not need politicians and people who come from rich and powerful families who have no idea on how the common person lives.
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter HOW are the people going to take back power? Via the present political arrangements OR others? And what are those others? BE SPECIFIC.
ellin40 1 year ago
@ellin40-My answer is above-on the same webpage
5hitter 1 year ago
@ellin40-Your so called friends of the West get loans to fund their deficits from the Chinese at half the interest rate and then give it back to us at full rate like the World Bank at full rate.Did you know that moron? And who gave you the right to allow politicians to place Greece into the EU and euro without a democratic referendum stupid nazi and communist?
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter first of all you cannot by definition be both a communist and a Nazi...get your bigotry right. Second, the Greek public overwhelmingly approved membership in the-then EEC and continues to support European membership in spite of the crisis. Third if you see Greece outside of Europe, provide the alternative. Fourth you need the RIGHT politicians with vision and guts, the kind we haven't produced since Venizelos.
ellin40 1 year ago
@ellin40-I said the minority who placed Greece in the EU and its supporters are nazi's and communists which is the same thing-Totalitarian, barbaric and undemocratic.There was no referendum to vote entering either the EU or euro. To take polls and figures especialy from governmnet sources in not a reliable source especially from corrupt politicians who are by profession -LIARS!! The alternative is a Greece free from political biaseness and the people NOT!!! lamogia take back power.
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter Are you tripping? What Nazis and Communists? It was Karamanlis the elder who initiated negotiations. The Greek Communists have been steadfastly AGAINST EU membership, let alone initiate it. And the majority of Greek people are pro-EU since the early days. So it's not a minority that is pro-Europe in Greece. As for taking back power, HOW? Give concrete advise, not aphorisms
ellin40 1 year ago
@ellin40- You are missing the point. If a country says it is democratic then it should ask the people by referendum any issue that concerns the future of the country. If only a minority decides then it is not democratic.Get it now? Anyone who is against the EU does not mean they are communist. Its called patriotism which has nothing to do with politics. YOU!! are saying the people like the EU. People should not vote for them and storm parliament like a real peoples revolution and arrest them
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter if you HAD a point I wouldn't be missing it. You propose nothing other than general aphorisms against the politicians and the banking system. Referendums are not widespread in a democracy, electons are held instead in regular intervals. Referendum on what? Referendums are "yes" "no" affairs; so what's your question? "Do you want to belong in the EU'? Greeks would say "yes" as they always have. SO WHAT IS THE FRAGGING POINT YOU'RE MAKING?
ellin40 1 year ago
@ellin40-What is so difficult to understand? A referendum on do the Greeks want to stay in the EU and the euro considering they never voted on the topic.You understand and accept elections as a concept. Then why cant you understand REFERENDUM!!!
PS-If the Greeks will say yes or no then let them prove it democratically. Your opinion and the governments opinion polls do not count as reliable sources
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter No political party is calling for referendum; no unions are calling for withdrawal from the EC (besides KKE's usual rhetoric); no student organizations express strictly anti-EC sediment; the military is certainly to no extend against it, or NATO for that matter. So who do you represent? The same minority that kills innocent civilians in banks in the most horrible way?
ellin40 1 year ago
@ellin40-And you do not find what you have just said strange? That everyone who is in a position of power has sold out and you find that normal? Not everyone who wants Greece to return to the drachma and wants Greece to be free from the EU is a communist. They are called patriots. Maybe your YouTube name ellin should be changed to euro40 as you do not speak like you are Greek otherwise you would not have sent me your comment.
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter Everyone in position of power plays specific role in the established socio-economic order and allocation of status and power, "sold out" is generic and unspecific. This is not an EU problem, it is our problem and don't see how exiting the EU will help any, that's all I'm saying
ellin40 1 year ago
@ellin40 -True you have a point. The Greek people however have not seen any real benefits promised by the EU-Only excuses for our politicians to steal more and take out more loans and worse from the EU.
5hitter 1 year ago
@5hitter I will reiterate my previous point: the current crisis is NOT EU's fault. We can blame the international pool of money, JP Morgan, the endless speculation that characterizes the stock market etc. The Greek political system in the post-1974 era relied on heavy foreign borrowing to create a middle class that, frankly, took the bait and seemed to be content with its status--until now. So it's a lot more complicated than just blaiming the EU
ellin40 1 year ago
@ellin40-The EU knew where it was giving its money to-they are equally to blame.The Greek people were never asked by democratic referendum if they wanted to join the EU and the euro. Instead they allowed corrupt polticians of a corrupt political junta who rule in suits instead of military uniforms to decide for them.I only regret the millions of Greeks and their efforts, who fought to stay and set themselves free over the centuries were sold out by todays, unworthy to be called, Greeks.
5hitter 1 year ago
@FireFox9032-You are half right. They are the most taxed nation in the EU and have the least benefits.They do however avoid telling the government of extra income as they feel the politicians will steal it and they do not see the money well spent
5hitter 1 year ago
@FireFox9032-The points you have mentioned are justified with good reason as the 'West' has never really been a friend to Greece as it prefers to cater to Turkish, albanina, skopjan, bulgarian claims of minority rights in Greece and ignore Greece's even though we have been around a lot longer than our neighbours have been. I will agree most not all Greeks are to blame for todays crisis as they were tolerant and voted for corrupt politicians
5hitter 1 year ago
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NO MORE LOANS TO GREECE!!!The Greeks have no one else to blame but themselves as they voted for these same politicians who have stolen Greece's wealth. They are paying for their tolerance of these thiefs and TRAITORS!!! and they deserve to be punished for the austerity programs.But then again which voter in any country is blamesless
PS-Greece should withdraw from the EU and the euro and return to its currency the drachma
5hitter 1 year ago
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NO MORE LOANS TO GREECE!!!The Greeks have no one else to blame but themselves as they voted for these same politicians who have stolen Greece's wealth. They are paying for their tolerance of these thiefs and TRAITORS!!! and they deserve to be punished for the austerity programs.But then again which voter in any country is blamesless
PS-Greece should withdraw from the EU and the euro and return to its currency the drachma
5hitter 1 year ago
@FireFox9032 You seem to be happy with the situation. You are more prone to Greek-bashing than resolving. Suit yourself.
ellin40 1 year ago
@FireFox9032 each Greek is out for himself/herself b/c the state has abandoned the average citizen. The state has abandoned the average citizen b/c the state has not produced any visionaries for at least 80 years. Therefore the citizen makes do with whatever at hand. The "comforatbly situated ones" (volepsiakides) are the scourge of every Greek; but at the same time it wouldn't be bad to be one of them.
ellin40 1 year ago
@FireFox9032 80% don't pay taxes? What are your sources for saying this? There is chronic tax evaton in Greece but 80% is unrealistic: if 80% did not pay taxes there would be NO mney at all. Also, there is no social cohesion? There is SOME cohesion in a state that stays together don't you think? What "fat" Christmas bonuses? Thats the 13th wage, up for axing. With a 13th and 14th wage the average Greek professional will make 20-25,000 EU/year.
ellin40 1 year ago
@FireFox9032, no, the banks also fucked Greks as well. The same banks that fucked Argentina, lol. Not that Greks are innocent. But, tell me, borrowing at 3 percentile units than everyone else, how does that help the country recover? And why keep downgrading the rating? It just makes recovery harder....but the harder the recovery, the more you borrow...gues from whom ;)
ellin40 1 year ago
greece is the oldest "G" spot, lmao
korca8albania 1 year ago
it takes many deads like alexis to impose radical freemarket..Pinochet assesored by freedman knew that..
fuck capitalism..we have the rigth to construct and live under new sistems...
lacan75 1 year ago
the trick is just that one..public funds rescue private bussines..then they balme debt on public rigths like public health or education..and try to dessapear them ..fuck milton friedman.the world is not a merchindise..people is first...
lacan75 1 year ago
It's not only the bankers' fault. There are endemic practices in Greek political and economic life that create favoritism, paraeconomy, and unaccountability. And the EE is actually helping, though grudgingly and under the forced realization that Greek collapse will undermine the Euro. Besides, better the EU that the IMF and their scalpers.
ellin40 1 year ago
abolición de la deuda externa pública de los países en desarrollo ya!
Abolish the external debt of develping countrys now!!! people is first
lacan75 1 year ago
@lacan75, thank you for yet another Marxist cliche, but Greek debt is not like that of Latin America. Whereas there western corporations function in neo-colonial conditions, in Greece the debt has been created by public consumption and government overspending. I remember Karamanlis promising pensions to the Australian diaspora, as if they don't already live in a country with one of the best social security networks.....right around election time too....diaspora votes en absentia you know ;)
ellin40 1 year ago
@ellin40 lol..capitalism has beenworking for the last decades alone..and the number of poor people hasgrown so badly..no need of cliches to see the truth..and the banks rescued with public funds there are no even greeks..lol..publi spending is not a waste..saving banks..thats shit..
lacan75 1 year ago
@lacan75, I'm not denying the bad aspects of ca[ita;ism. I live in the US where the huge bailouts given to people who fucked the economy through unbounded speculation were in turn used to fuel the insane bonuses for the same CEO's.
ellin40 1 year ago
tsimos4eva WHY dont you show your israelian friend some videos of KILLINGS ?
the WORLD reacted with PROTESTS i bet you will defenatly see WHAT TRUE VIOLENCE IS.
texniki1 1 year ago
@texniki1 oh and i saw your shit about jewish bankers - i suppose jews pull the strings that prevent you from getting along in life, huh? that's a great attitude to find a future. by the way, greeks didn't kill anyone to get their land? how do you know, have you studied history? have you not heard about any greek wars? have you heard about dorians for example?
israelidude26 1 year ago
israelidude26 because moron you have seen one or two vids doesnt mean were violent you hypocrite liar!!YOU DONT KNOW SHIT! our soccer fans are great NOW.. VIOLENThooligans were the BRITS.
murderers ARE the israelians.you see asshole we have problems we will fix, asshole no GREEK has killed a women or child to get his home or land.
nor have we commited GENOCIDE!!!!
texniki1 1 year ago
@texniki1 to use the word "genocide" is very provocative and stupid. i guess that just because you want to say genocide about what's going on between israelis and palestinians, you feel you can say that. israelis aren't perfect but so aren't muslims, very imperfect they are. i was talking more about your basket ball fans, aris and the like who throw coins.
israelidude26 1 year ago
@texniki1 and talk about being a hypocrite - it was your continent that forced us to fight for a land, including your country and people who were happy to assist in killing its jews, and that's why there are probably no jewish bankers in greece today.
israelidude26 1 year ago
violent people who don't know how to protest and don't understand what a democracy is. look how in all the films the demonstrators are the ones who are violent and not the policemen. a people who doesn't know how to build anything but only to destroy, that is not worthy to be considered the cradle heritage carrier of europe, and even that heritage included much violence.
israelidude26 1 year ago
@israelidude26 How are philosophy, politics, medicine, geometry, art, architecture, language and cuisine violent?... (btw the riot police is corrupt to the bone, you should see them suppress protesters with their buddies from "Golden Dawn", the Neo-Nazi party of Greece...)
tsimos4eva 1 year ago
@tsimos4eva you can talk about all that, or you can also talk about violence in greek mythology, the iliad, greek mercenaries who were the best and most experienced and alexander of macedon. the point is that in your case the violence seems to spring out of a tendency to it. you also see it in sports, greek fans are the most violent.
israelidude26 1 year ago
@israelidude26 I don't think you can include mythology when we talk about cultural heritage...and ancient history is irrelevant to the matter... I don't see any other European nation influenced by Zeus...and you obviously have a bias..why do you hate the Greeks? Have you ever been here? Ever met one? It is not rational to say a nation has a "tendency" for violence... Plus if you think Greek soccer fans are violent, you haven't been to England and Spain...
tsimos4eva 1 year ago
@israelidude26 my friend , do you think that you are in position to have an opinion for that ? do you know enything about greek people?
hgoumenos666 1 year ago
@hgoumenos666 actually, really not enough, that's why i'm trying to find out from you:)
israelidude26 1 year ago
the "acrapolis".
rw5791 1 year ago
There is no sovereign Greece anymore... They are now property of the IMF. What pathetic people. They even had to lie about their finances to even get into the EU. My Greek friends, It's not your country that's pathetic, it's your GOVERNMENT!!! Pick a better family to run your country! Don't make the same mistake we did with the Bush's!
unincorporated1 1 year ago
were getting a loan from IMF.there currency isnt dollars nor euro they have THERE DIFFERENT CURRENCY and are able to print as much as they like to the ones they will loan! foook now ive seen it all! now i understand how capitalism works!
texniki1 1 year ago
The Grecians are in golden handcuffs. If you screw the government and the banks then you screw yourself.
JLHans07 1 year ago
@JLHans07 , there is no ethnic denomination such as "Grecians".
ellin40 1 year ago
@ellin40 It's Γραικοί (graeki)...
tsimos4eva 1 year ago
JOIN THE NATIONAL STRIKES WORKERS, STUDENTS, FARMERS EVERYONE:)
The strike breakers are those who turn the protests into violence. They threw the molotof into the bank and kileld that woman. these people are probably very familiar faces to our policemen.
JOIN THE STRIKES:)
athenaptr 1 year ago 2
@athenaptr THE NEXT TIME EIP GETS IN THE PROTESTS GRAB THEM AND KICK THEIR ASS!!!! AND FOR GOD SAKES LETS JUST START MAKING NEW FUCKING THINGS AT LAST !!!! STOP PROTESTING FOR THE OLD IF WE DO NOT CREATE ANYTHING NEW !!!!
SA3LLARX 1 year ago
@athenaptr FUCK your strikes. And also fuck the impotency of the politicians and fuck the decade-long complicity of the now outraged public and fuck the foreign masters as well. In general fuck,fuck,fuck, lets make some children, we're soon going to be outbred in our own country lol
ellin40 1 year ago
Obama better quit "Fuc*in' around with Health Care and that Cap & Tax BS before the GREEK trouble comes to the US! WE NEED JOBS NOT BS!
petehanse 1 year ago
@petehanse This is calm compared to what might happen to Obama and Gangters.
holajim 1 year ago
hahahahha
MkdTigar1 1 year ago
Dying civilization
lletah 1 year ago
haha the government is punished for producing so many government dependents. The government dependents out looking for other peoples money and they get violent when demanding other people's money.
texasgringooo 1 year ago
Only the "Kraken" can help us now - the old gods should call him to destroy entire Greece !
Fr4nkWh1te 1 year ago
@Fr4nkWh1te dont judge us you ignorant sheep. the media feed you shit, this ^^crisis^^ has nothing to do with the greek people. i dont owe you or anyone cos i didnt practically borrow anything from you. the corrupted goverment did it and they should pay for it. we are guilty ofcourse because we gave them our vote but you are also guilty cos it was also YOUR goverment who is responsible for the corruption.
HomeBoywins 1 year ago
I am glad your doing this our government keeps STICKING IT UP OUR ASS here in america !!!!
yourmomscalling 1 year ago
The guilty parties of the Greece rape:
Goldman Sachs: Fraud, therefore EU membership
Mass Media: D0llar rescue by disraction, therefore crisis spectacle
Quantum fund speculators: Making money with financial terrorism
Banks: More debt, therfore bigger crisis spectacle later on
Germans: Too lazyy to ask for reasonable earnings, therefore surplus
Greeks: Too lazy to fuck their gov criminals in the ass with a machete
trakkaton 1 year ago
i don't understand the media's complete and utter out-of-proportion treatment of the Greek "Bail-out" which is really a 3-year loan. Did the media forget that the American people had to bail out the great US capitalistic system, not once, but TWICE? $ 1 trillion bail out of the US Banks by Bush, and $1 Trillion bail-out of the economy by Obama - total $2 Trillion! Why all this obsession with Greece?
jjgreek1 1 year ago
So mrs markzen and joaquinveyron,you have met maany greeks in your everyday life and all of them are lazy and frauds....So i guess (and one greek here is not going to fall in your niveau and will use mild terms)every english on earth is drinking tea at exactly 5 o'clock everyday and spends his time praying"god save the queen "Or every french out there cannot get out of their home witthout their berets on.That's plain stupid and shows some heavy ignorance.
rocketspeedy 1 year ago
And to those who say that we are different from ancient greeks:it s just a way for developped countries to keep on living without inferiority complex.We are the same as we have the same negative points as our ancestors and if nobody was meddling with us in our recent history ,we would have showed that we have the same positive points as well.
rocketspeedy 1 year ago
The european countries wont lose one bit of the money they give because they have earned way too much all these years that our monuments are in their museums,cause they may be international heritage but the money go the countries who are keeping them.And hasn't anyone heard about what the economists say that the one harming the EU is Germany with her selfish commercial policy.She is one of the reasons the poorer countries suffer
rocketspeedy 1 year ago
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Pull out the European countries out of the euro! Why do the British, German, French and all the others have to pay for the high-game played by Greek banks? Because they've comitted themselves to it through the euro! Pull out the European nations!
Greece shall not be in the EU anymore.
againstEU 1 year ago
It is not possible to ignore the Greece crisis !!
come on GREECE you are the Europe's hearth !!
From a sicilian far cousin !!!!
easybut 1 year ago
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If Europe is lucky the Germans will once again save it from ruin: Like they repulsed the Romans and the Huns, broke our baleful hegemony during the age of Louis XIV and the usurper Napoleon and were close to defeat the Russia and Americans in the last war; now they may bring down the European Union, that bureaucratic nonsense, by so base a thing as money; we French and the Dutch voted in vain against the constitution and got it as treaty still so did the Irish but the Germans may prevail.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
fuck all !
NecrotiKmax 1 year ago
@markzen582 this may be true...but its better than living on STOLEN ruins like the British.
jjgreek1 1 year ago
@markzen582 Go ask America for aid, because everyone knows you're America's 51st state...your country is controlled by Washington DC! And your enormous debt and deficits, approaching 12% of GDP will be bailed out by Obama.
jjgreek1 1 year ago
@markzen582 There's no need to be that stupid. Calm down, dude
doctrui 1 year ago
@doctrui MarkZen is having a nervous breakdown...lack of sun
jjgreek1 1 year ago
@markzen582 Oh you're from the UK...which has stolen the worlds culture! Imagine going to the British Museum without the Parthenon Marbles! What would one see? Queen Victoria's underwear?!! LOL...By the way Mr. UK...your country with its huge budget deficit and debt is only in slightly better shape than Greece, Portugal and Spain...who will bail you out Anglo? Your American overlords?!
jjgreek1 1 year ago
@jjgreek1 Don't talk bullshit, Vasily. Greeks are the laziest and most corrupt people in Europe. Instead of putting efforts in building up their own economy, they suck out/steal money from the EU by forging finanical statements, lying and now crying like girls. The mess Greece is in has solely to do with the mis-management, insane government spending, corruption and incompetence of the Greeks and nothing else. You should be shameful, get on your knees and beg for forgiveness
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@joaquinveyron Greeks are not to blame,Our corrupted goverment is to blame which has stolen all the money from the EU and noone does anything about it, i am a Greek citizen and believe me i didn't get a single cent from the EU, our politicians have become traitors and there is a law which they can't go to prison!! WHY DID THE EU GIVE MONEY TO THE CORRUPTED GREEK GOVERMENT?? DIDN'T THEY KNOW ??(Greek citizens knew)
Venom4Viper 1 year ago
@joaquinveyron you should get on your knees and thank the Greeks and Greece for introducing some culture into your barbarian existence...thank the Greeks for introducing democracy into your sorry barbarian existence. by the way, thank Greeks for the art they've introduced into your otherwise drab dreary barbarian exstence. By the way, thank Greece for mathematics which allowed you to stop swinging through trees and living in caves. keep thanking Greece even for the name "Europe".
jjgreek1 1 year ago
@markzen582 Greece was spared? boy don't they teach you history in the cold rainy north, when you're stuck inside your houses for 10 months out of the year? Med envy is what you have my friend. But don't dispare, you can move to Sunny Greece like 100s of thousands of your German comrads.
jjgreek1 1 year ago
@markzen582 what about what the Germans did 60 years ago (destroying the world), compared to what Germany is doing now? Totally different?
jjgreek1 1 year ago
LISTEN GREEK PEOPLE! Germany is NOT bailing out Greece! In the Paris Reparations Agreement of 1946 the German war crimes against Greece were billed at 7.1 billion US dollars.
Germany also during occupation (1941-1944) was given a mandatory loan from Greece (yes from Greece to Germany) to the size of 3,5 billions USD.
A total sum of 10,6 billions USD at 1938 prices, not today. Even at a modest interest of 4%, this money accounts to 130 billions USD, half of the total debt of Greece!
jjgreek1 1 year ago
@markzen582 Yeah...AFTER you were bailed out by the Marshal Plan and the American people!!
jjgreek1 1 year ago
@markzen582 German people should not complain about "bailouts" with their sordid history of destroying the world and THEN being bailed about by the American people at the tune of untold Billions of dollars.
jjgreek1 1 year ago
@markzen582 calling the mediterranean people lazy shows your true ignorance and lack of history. how can such lazy people have generated all the civilization and inventions that western civilization is based on? Are you Turkish? that might explain your lack of knowledge.
jjgreek1 1 year ago
@markzen582 Listen here nazi...if you don't like Greece stay in your rain-soaked, boring lang (wherever that is) - Modern Greeks are decendents of the Ancient Greeks with the same language, same customs, and joy of life. You boring Anglo-Germans are always jealous of the med countries, that's why you come here and buy our land and rest on our beaches. When you pay back the $300 Billion you owe from WWII, we will let you visit our country again. Nazi trash
jjgreek1 1 year ago
Germany owns to Greece loads of money from world war 2, for all the criminal actions the have done in our country...
Germany not only have to give money to Greece, but to give them without paying them back....
Alexiskayak 1 year ago 2
@Alexiskayak, WW II German reparations amount to something like 800 million not 460 billion. Not that Germany puts all of that up...but Merkel took huge political loss to push this through. Maybe thank you and we'll try harder in the future is more appropriate?
ellin40 1 year ago
@markzen582 Greeks have worked enough to give you civilization you barbarian mongol. Without Greece you would still be living in a cave..so pay up!
jjgreek1 1 year ago
@markzen582 Why are you so bothered by the truth? Germany wiped out the Greek economy and killed 10% of its citizens...time to pay up. Besides, without Greek culture, and civilization, and even the name "Europe" - where would you be now? Still swinging in trees like monkeys. Greece contribution to western civilization is estimated to have been worth $50 Trillion...so pay up nazi!
jjgreek1 1 year ago
@markzen582 If Germany hadn't raped the Greek nation during the WWII occupation, Greece would've never been in this situation today. Germany owes the Greek nation 300 Billion Euros for War Reparations. Time to pay up Nazis! And if you don't we'll withhold our fruits and vegetables from you and you will all die of rickets!
jjgreek1 1 year ago
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Laßt euch nicht verarschen Griechenland, der Internationale Währungsfond u. die Europäische Zentrale Bank, wollen euch zwingen in die Knie zu gehn.
Mit Sanktionen, ihr müßt schnell aus dem Euro!!
Und eure eigene Währung nutzen!!
Sonst kommen ungeheure Sparmaßnahmen auf euch zu, u. die sind nicht zu bewältigen!!!
th784 1 year ago
annie46664 god bless you.AdriaILIRIA its true banksters and criminals and
corrupted politicians is what brought us here.greeks will get over this.
god bless portugal and spain who have a huge debt as well.its all in the game the debt crisis.the game is to drop your head and keep saying yes yes.but they dont know that the greeks fight as one.
texniki1 1 year ago
greece problem was that they had corupt govermant that manipulating statistics for so many years,also a country that spend so much money for millytary defence is hard to survive long .
reflexionofme 1 year ago
High taxes.
and 50 % of the population works for the government. HAHAHAHA.
DontMeanWell 1 year ago
If there was ever a chance to dissolve a capitalist state and create a modern Anarchist society.... its right now... in Greece...
wavesporter 1 year ago
game over bitches...die in misery or lick merkels&sarkozys asses for some money
TheZikkiminkoku 1 year ago
@TheZikkiminkoku You Turkish crap..Your complex of inferiority leads you make comments even for the Greek crisis,like Greek people should feel guilty for something they don't deserve..We don't lick anyone's ass you dumb..The ones that are humiliated are our fake-jew politicians that betray the blood of our ancestors..Yes,you guessed right..the ones that fucked you turks all the way and send them back to Anatolia..Come Again you moron
HellenicGuardline 1 year ago
@TheZikkiminkoku Τούρκος καλός, μόνο νεκρός.
iskios86 1 year ago 2
Inevitably, the ones who suffer most from corruption and the economic devastation it spawns are the poor—the ones who are rarely in a position to bribe anyone. As The Economist succinctly put it, corruption is but one form of oppression. corruption only "works" when the majority are honest ? so the %90 will subsidise the %10 of crooks ,the financial institutions have had to fight it out in the financial arena ,in the process %90 have cut corners and broken the law ?so what next ?????
1929spectre 2 years ago
you can't eat the cake and have it , in their case Kebab
Animatiotron 2 years ago
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guys look this video= (shameful whores of satana)
aposapes 2 years ago
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Greece is the E.U.'s bitch!!
You can now buy the whole country at a very cheap price!!!
They overspent and now they have to pay the price!!!
francoruberto 2 years ago
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Perhaps Greece really does need some big German dicks to rule over them. (I'm anti-EU and anti-NWO, by the way)
CO2TROL 2 years ago
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one way to get out sell your island and acropolis to the germans lmao
korca8albania 2 years ago
Down with NWO !
Down with Wall Street BANKSTERS & CRIMINALS !
AdriaILIRIA 2 years ago 7
@AdriaILIRIA yes they are..greetings from zapatas land..
lacan75 1 year ago
to what dude said about u guys being judged by how your acting,hey protesting and kitting cops when doing so,and actualy standing up against your governemtn,is awsome,u guys are doing great,i hope your country stays strong minded americans are unwilling to stand cause there chiken,and if any american wants to say something to that,bet u 20 he cant show u ,all he or she can do is say something,but words are nothing and funny thing,they let there government rule them like slaves and wont step up
imatelly 2 years ago
@imatelly. I am involved with maby patriot groups from the TEA parties to Militia. Although many people are joining, it is disheartening as to how small of a percentage of the population it is. The more people who wake up and start to prepare, the less people will suffer and die.
treecowboy1100 2 years ago
your an ignorant person americans have been fighting wars for hundreds of yrs dieing for what we believe in a decade now weve been protesting the bs going on in this country so dont sit behind your computer like a coward an talk down about america when you have nothing to support what you say we dont go out and riot and kill police for no reason doesnt solve shit
jjiggydoc 2 years ago
@jjiggydoc There had been the Chicago Communa in 1896. But the revolution did not established.
hrbear 1 year ago
What a shame.
I love Greece since I studied Greece in history classes and at the same time I was watching the 2004 Athens Olympics.
So sad Greece is having so hard moments by now.
We can't let the birth place of the Western Civilization go bankruptcy.
alfaceandrice 2 years ago
u know, those olympic games is one of the reasons of the current state of greece.
reddove17 2 years ago
@reddove17
Yes, I know, but not only the Olympics. It is clearly evident that Greece was growing ahead of its capacity in the past 10 years. From 2000 to 2008 Greece GDP averaged 4.1% real growth rate. Well above the EU average of 2.5% and only behind Ireland. That's unreal for an already developed nation, mainly an European nation full of taxes and using the Euro which would only work in very rich and competitive nations such as Germany, Netherlands, etc.
alfaceandrice 2 years ago
@reddove17
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And the Olympics could have worked much better for Athens, just look at Barcelona or Sydney post-olympics.
Another important thing is that Athens 2004 culminated in a period of fear over terrorist attacks and they had to improve the security budget from $ 300 million to $ 1.2 billion. Money that wasn't planed to be spent, and many other problems that happened during the process. But I still think it was worth it, because the greeks did a great party.
alfaceandrice 2 years ago
@alfaceandrice sure we can
kirbyman1kanden7pf 1 year ago
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Greece is a fucken socialist and corrupt country, run by unions and bribes.
They should be kicked out of the E.U. and replaced by some other country.
They were given a lot of subsidies by the E.U. and they stole it!!!
Barbarian337 2 years ago
i agree we should go out of the EU for our working class's sake. To the other parts you have the intelligence of a barbarian.
reddove17 2 years ago 2
teh Eu fucked greece up taht's why they are so angry.Britain is angry about how the Eu is walking over them,chargeing us 40 million pounds a day to be in it,when we just get milked.we want out of hte Eu as well
ccclllsport 2 years ago 6
@ccclllsport There are many reasons, the E.U controls the way your agriculture works, and while the Euro is in a high you can not export, but just import products. Greece had some traditional agricultural products olive oil, oranges, potatoes, sugar, tobbaco, this market controlled by the E.U so things become difficult. The tobbaco started to collapse even due to anti-smoking campain (imagine if Cuba could not sell cigars). If you add the major stock market ka-boom in 1993, the Olympics 2004
hrbear 1 year ago
@ccclllsport Don't talk bullshit, Vasily. As much I dislike banks in general, as much it is clear that the banks who no speculate against Greece has nothing to do with the crisis or better with this mess that is due to Greek inferiority. Of course, banks bet against Greece now, but only because Greece is in such a bad situation for which it is responsible itself, or who has to be made responsible for the corruption, crime, forgery, big gov spending, waste, inefficiency, laziness??
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@ccclllsport England is part of the EU u illiterate fool ! They just don't have the Euro !
Fr4nkWh1te 1 year ago
haha my spelling was really bad on that comment. I never said england was not in the EU?? And i know we don't have the euro, i live here.
ccclllsport 1 year ago
@Fr4nkWh1te
I think you watch too much hollywood crap...
pandoheas 1 year ago
@Fr4nkWh1te LOL Call the kracken to put a tentacle up your ass little mofo.
TheBaronofBallstein 1 year ago
To everyone from rich countries critisizing the greeks,i say this:Greeks are getting the lowest salaries and are getting even the most basic products at the most expensive prices.They are the poorest strugglist everyday to live and the EU asks for even more sacrifices to pay a debt their corrupt governments and their comrades are to blame for.And to those who accuse as of not paying any taxes:There is indeed a percentage that doesn't pay (not all the greeks)but let me say this,
rocketspeedy 2 years ago 8
@rocketspeedy Vasily, what the fuck are you talking??? " last 25years about the military expenditures against an ally(Greece)selling us all products in above 100% than other allies "
Fact is that Greece receives 40 bn EUR from Brussels. This is EUR 5000 per capita. And now we will waste another EUR 125 bn. on you suckers.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
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PLEASE, do check out the ANIMAL ABUSE
in greece, it's islands and crete, the DAILY MASS POISONINGS and other forms of ABUSE ... it's all on you tube!
very sad, and BARBARIC to say the least!
so i do hope they are 'discarded' from the UN, they must be taught a lesson one way or another! this country has become a freak show ... always protesting & complaining about something or another, causing shit on the streets,
so DAMNED PATHETIC!
respect your animals motherfuckers!
freddiesfavorite 2 years ago
i do respect you dude
reddove17 2 years ago
@freddiesfavorite
my apologies, i meant to say EU not UN
oops ...
freddiesfavorite 2 years ago
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i personally have NO sympathy for these people whatssoever! they are ALL crooks!
and ..
and the ANIMAL ABUSE that goes on in this country, is a TRAGIC story! they have absolutely NO regard toward animals!
right here on you tube ... check it out!
all the DAILY MASS POISONINGS! crushed glass or rat poison is used and put into some food so the poor dogs & cats get to it and are POISONED to their death. this happens everyday!
i think this speaks VOLUMES about
greece and it's people!
freddiesfavorite 2 years ago
God is dead, Marx is dead, and Capitalism now is dying... Is the normal way of evolution.
We will die together.
We 'll all die for our freedoms,
we'll all die to be reborn into a new life...
wik1978 2 years ago
Wow sounds like the United States to come.
Peace and Truth
Th2EyA0rEa1MoN2gUs 2 years ago
With you in PRAYERS people of Greece ~ a country I've visited often & LOVE dearly.
EVERYONE needs to visit Greece ~ even just once ~ AWESOME!
With love & LIGHT,
South Africa
annie46664 2 years ago 14