Has history been tampered with? Dark Age as result of clerical chronology manipulation

[1111GENESIS]

Black people ruled Europe during the so called "Dark Ages", & it was during the " Renaissance" when Caucasians began "Iconoclasm" and changed Black faces to White. Prof. is in the religious Icons of Russia that were not destroyed. The Black Moors dominated southwest Europe during the Middle Ages for about 700 years: 711-1492 A.D. Blacks ruled in Europe for over 780 years starting from the Moorish invasion of Spain in 711, till the 1500s , so yes history has been tampered with....

[onemarktwoyou]

I hope this is a joke!

[loagun]

No. It hasn't. History is perfect, and everything is exactly how it has seemed to be just like everything in the present moment of time is exactly how it seems to be around the Earth.

[vbsurfer1]

David was not a sculpture of the Classical Age, but of the Renaissance

[Rogermiler]

I have got to say, for a conspiracy theory, THIS is pretty original.

[abarrathemaster]

our Illuminati control school system is teaching our kids that there civilzations before the year 1980 to keep us around from the truth that Chack Norris invanted everything and created every life form that had existed all in the past 20 years. to learn more visted the chuch of Chack Norris's creation museum

[matthewlane]

@mithec A mathematician has proof that the dark ages were a phantom? Oh well then it must be true. Now if you'll excuse me, i've had this head ache for a couple of days so i'm going to go see a dentist, before i go get my car washed by a garbage collector & then i'm off to the australian outback to do some shopping.

I'm sorry, but as embarassing as it is to know that Christianity caused 1000 years of stupidity, it happened.

[feeefyefofuuum]

I am not a creationist, I am all about truth and facts! Read about Fomenko and how the scientific community has declared his theories "pseudoscience", he is a statastician and mathmatecian who fit his math to fit his theories ...his own people awarded him the Russian "shit" award for worst book ever! This is bullshit. Educated yourselves friends.

[sheikdawud]

you forgot a small part the moors black africans and arabs ruled europe  4 700 plus yrs .a proven fact europeans were living in barn yards.711a.d tarif abu sura and tarik gibril cross into southern spain (al andalus)and dominate iberian pennisula.look at black faces on alot of european coat of arms u see us(moors) a fact

[AmericaAmerica69]

@sheikdawud Black people have only been ape slaves nothing more. And also Arabs are Caucasian just so you know.

[TurboTurbulence22]

@AmericaAmerica69 To show how stupid you are, you said it yourself Neanderthal.

[docnon]

That's all fine and dandy but then how do you explain all of the architecture from these periods you say never existed, and how do you explain the Chinese records of trading with the Romans when the Chinese weren't even a part of Europe?

[kinslayer120]

why have they used the buildt in talking tool to present this book...annoys me..

[JunFanJimi]

What 'IF' this book is a load of hogwash aimed at atheists who want confermation from an atheistic mathematician that their right?

[Havermayer]

@JunFanJimi Please learn the difference between "their" and "they're".

[kirina1309]

ok i found the catch...ehhh so i was happy for 5 min only :)

[kirina1309]

thx for the tip where to find the book, wow a free book, hmmm suspicious....but great

[kirina1309]

actaully i would prefer to read the book 1st and then comment about author's states of mind. i was taught that the classical manuscripts were "saved" by Arabs, i really wonder how the author cope with the whole non-judeochristian (how we lately like to call it) history. pity we dont have polish translation and russian is no longer taught at school to such extend as it was before 1990 :), i hope to buy the book in uk then

[jasonthegreek1]

You need psychological aid

[saltydog78]

Prof. Fomenko is correct when he talks about the

Pagan similarities to Jesus. Hes wrong when he talks about "one must be a Mathematician to understand" well you have to at least understand calculus and statistics to read his book. He is also right about the unreliable carbon dating and dendrochronology. However astronomical datings were falsified. read the D prime theory in his book

[MerlinXIII]

what about all the autors of the past : Herodote, Bède le Vénérable, St Augustin ? Are they liars ? What about archeology ? What about Platon? Your book is bullshit. All of you said is bullshit. Your proofs aren't real. At any time you said something coherent or true...Poor man.

[mithec]

Many a scientist has noticed and criticised history manipulation, i.e. Isaac Newton, Jean Hardouin, Edwin Johnson, Morozov. Too much at stake, all criticisms swept under the carpet..

[Maximara]

It is one thing to say events have been manipulated. It is a totally different thing to say about 4000 years worth of history has been created out of full cloth.

[mithec]

google>books>fomenko its 100% free and searchable

[mithec]

no, not iars. all fm xv-xvii cy.

.read before label & libel. rgds

[ksenia1807]

@MerlinXIII I don't think the main point of the book is to say that they are liars, the main point is to show using mathematics and astronomy that there were a lot of mistakes, most of which been done unintentionally and some were purpously hidden by the government. He makes a lot more sense to me than the books presented to us by the school.

You should read the book, it is interesting to say the least, or watch the series.

[epidot010]

None of what you just posted had any relevance to my question.

[epidot010]

What about Asia? There has been continuous civilization in china for the past 2000 years, DURING the dark age that you imply did not happen. Also there were the Uighur and Saffarid dynasties that occurred in the middle east during the dark age. Were these civilizations, and all their archaeological evidence, just made up?

[mithec]

Great Wall of China as a military defense is non-sensical. It was actually built in mid 17th cy to mark the border between Great Tartary and China. You will not find this wall on earlier maps. `Mongol` nomadic tribes were small, illiterate, and scattered before 19th cy, in fact they even did not even know they were touted as great conquerors.

[Maximara]

Actually the usefulness of the Great Wall as a defensive structure 1600-1644 was well documented by the Chinese. Hardly the mid 17th century and with the start of the Qing Dynasty the influence went beyon the wall and so repairs stopped.

[abarrathemaster]

@epidot010 Asia is a stage created by the illuminati like all those made up Un-american countries like Canada or New York

[CausalObserver74]

"Greece and Rome invented in the middle ages?" - No, The Jesuits invented the timeline and events there in them. But if Jesus Christ was crucified in 1086 A.D. as suggested, then the carbon dating from the Shroud of Torin would be plausible. Even present U.S. history is make believe.

[oskarsyren]

@CausalObserver74

No, the carbon dating would still be almost 200 years off. According to wikipedia, the carbon dating placed it between the years 1260 - 1390. Though I agree that this is a pretty appealing story, I don't think it makes sense at all.

[sflorio]

wow, bad enough that that YouTube is slowly turning into just another advertising vehicle for companies, but this one is absurd. If Jesus didn't happen until 1053, what were those people thinking for a thousand years before that? Greece and Rome invented in the middle ages? And black is white and up is down. Crazy. Waste of time.

[DotOnYourBack]

sounds to me like freemasonry is trying to rewrite history

[mithec]

Occam razor cuts: Sapiens sapiens species <=150000 years old, civilization (state+army+ideology+writing) goes only as far back as AD 800, very scarce information from 8-10 cy AD events, most historical events took place in 10-15th cy AD. Jesus 1153-1186 AD. Old Testament compiled in 12-16 cy AD, AFTER New One, it renders events of that period. All methods of dating of artefacts, including c14 are non-exact and contradictory, there are no written ORIGINALS dateble earlier than the XI century.

[Maximara]

Actually civilization (state+army+ideology+writing) can be dated traditionally allt he way back to the Greeks c2000 BCE.

[bonusonus]

i like how they got a british narrator to make it seem like an expert opinion, lol

[tigerpaper]

"Jerusalem is actually the medieval city of Constantinople"

-LOL

[josseppie]

LOL and the world is flat and the stars, planets, moons, and even the sun revolve around earth. Oh and finally we never went to the moon it was all filmed in hollywood LOL. Great comedy i needed this laugh today.

[ben561]

an intensly irritating documentary

[gillypie]

WTF of cause their was a dark age, just go around the country and see all the bloody castles

[pochosan]

Jesus was crucified in 1086 A.D... This book is worst that Da Vinci Code XD

[mithec]

check this heresy just in case: go to google>to `more`> to `book search`>type keyword `fomenko`, read TOC or the whole book for this matter and free of charge.

[Bernie9679]

second wrong premise: the historians are not a sectarium group of very-monolytic-elders. They are a huge number of investigators around the world, every one with a teory, and the debate is usually intense in many aspects. Dont underestimate them, especially if write historiography.

[Bernie9679]

jejeje...come on...well...happily the book not say the spanish were invaded by the incas...

well, there was two wrong premises: the historians medievalist not use the concept of dark age, and never would say "virtually nothing happens" before the renaissance.

[zyrkon78]

crucified in 1086 A.D? by whom? the Roman Empire? The roman Empire that Fall in 476 A.D?

[XxSiCGaaraxX]

thats according to old history, this one would offer a different version, try reading it

[mithec]

The history of humankind happens to be both dramatically different and drastically shorter than generally presumed. Archaeological, dendrochronological, paleographical and carbon methods of dating of ancient sources and artifacts are both non-exact and contradictory, actually there is not a single piece of firm written evidence or artifact that could be reliably and independently dated earlier than the XI century.

[oskarsyren]

@mithec "there is not a single piece of firm written evidence or artifact that could be reliably and independently dated earlier than the XI century."

Yeah. So what about the pyramids, who built them? What about Pompeji, isn't that a pretty solid proof that the roman civilisation did exist? This is a piece of evidence that would pe impossible to fabricate, because you can't plan for a volcanic eruption.

[mithec]

for the last 400 years generations of historians have been busy veaving the fine fabric of lies.

[Saohesc]

I do not see it unlikely for people to have been in a cultural rut like this once upon a time. If there WAS no dark age, we are certainly in one NOW.

[Saohesc]

There is also the concern of the recorded histories of other peoples of earth, such as China or Japan. Cross referencing records and finding that they agree is PROBABLY why traditional history is so well accepted in the first place. Marco Polo? Genghis Khan? the actions of these men (among other events) conveniently tape together the histories of europe and asia. People never could have cooperated so well, so consistently... As this video suggests.

[Saohesc]

...However this is the best case scenario for human development. As I look at people today, I see arrogant people of all sorts, ignorant stubborn people, simple people who enjoy their simple life, and very little concern for the pursuit of knowledge. If there is an appreciation of knowledge, poor education generally causes a pupil to spend his whole academic career learning ALMOST as much as his teachers. These are the poor and dismal conditions I see today.

[Saohesc]

I would agree that knowledge has the ability to build upon itself exponentially. This video would imply that there was excellent cooperation in society, and a very high value of knowledge (with very little arrogance and assumption by scholars of already being very intelligent and wise people)... even if that cooperation and mind frame were only true among each society individually, while Nations were reluctant to work with each other...