Lovely to meet you Tara; I look forward to working with you! I'm sorry about the delay in responding but I've been in bed sick the past few days.
One point that interests me is whether one can describe restricting anorexia nervosa (as I had for many yrs) as an addiction? I can see how BED or bulimia can be addictive, and also exercise and SH (e.g. as in BPD). But I have always considered restricting anorexia nervosa to be more about over-regulation than addiction. I welcome your insight!
I believe it is also addictive. Starvation actually produces a high, and it is addictive. I believe EDs are a spectrum of behaviors, not a box of diagnosis. The difference between someone with BED and AN is that one uses food to deal with stress and emotions, the other uses food by avoiding food or really adhering to food rules. They are both on the same spectrum but on opposite ends. The underlying reasons for the behaviors are very similar all across the board.
True, starvation does produce a high, I think through stress hormones such as adrenaline and cortisol, both of which are raised in restricting anorexia nervosa. Prolonged, vigorous exercise elicits the same endocrine changes. Ultimately however, there can be a down regulation of these hormonal effects leading to depression rather than anxiety.
That is true, but when we are in ED sometimes it is hard to see when the benefits we thought we were getting are not as good as we thought they were, and we are already in the cycle. Breaking the cycle becomes difficult at that point.
Tara, you are wonderful...that was such an insightful response. I think I was using ambivalence as an excuse to not fight the eating disorder. I think I secretly wished that the recovery process wasn't so hard and kinda gave up on it...but ironically, it seems...making the -choice- to fight the eating disorder will weaken the ambivalence in time...I feel so comforted by yours and Fran's responses - thank you so much. I am looking forward to your videos:)
Hey I'm so glad your part of it too! I like your model better then the one my clinic uses....my clinic kind of forgets the relapse part =(, and that unfortunately is part of it...you should consider publishing it (it is yours right?).
OMG my first admission we totally realized that thing about food. The thing we're addicted to we actually have to confront on a daily basis-its quite annoying...one of the reasons that I feel we managed rather then cure this for the most part. Look fwd to more.
It is mine, and it is the basic model of a book I am writing. I am writing it with a therapist, and we have presented at a couple of conferences. I am also working on research to support the model. Mostly lit reviews right now,
wow, I like the chart talking about the cycle. Is that something that is easy to get a hold of? seems like a really good tool to have. Great video.
lifeembracing 3 years ago
tara, this is so great. i'm really glad you are part of this channel, i love how smart you! can't wait to see more videos from you :)
ShanzeeeGirl 3 years ago
Lovely to meet you Tara; I look forward to working with you! I'm sorry about the delay in responding but I've been in bed sick the past few days.
One point that interests me is whether one can describe restricting anorexia nervosa (as I had for many yrs) as an addiction? I can see how BED or bulimia can be addictive, and also exercise and SH (e.g. as in BPD). But I have always considered restricting anorexia nervosa to be more about over-regulation than addiction. I welcome your insight!
misstiggykins 3 years ago
I believe it is also addictive. Starvation actually produces a high, and it is addictive. I believe EDs are a spectrum of behaviors, not a box of diagnosis. The difference between someone with BED and AN is that one uses food to deal with stress and emotions, the other uses food by avoiding food or really adhering to food rules. They are both on the same spectrum but on opposite ends. The underlying reasons for the behaviors are very similar all across the board.
killthescale 3 years ago
True, starvation does produce a high, I think through stress hormones such as adrenaline and cortisol, both of which are raised in restricting anorexia nervosa. Prolonged, vigorous exercise elicits the same endocrine changes. Ultimately however, there can be a down regulation of these hormonal effects leading to depression rather than anxiety.
misstiggykins 3 years ago
That is true, but when we are in ED sometimes it is hard to see when the benefits we thought we were getting are not as good as we thought they were, and we are already in the cycle. Breaking the cycle becomes difficult at that point.
killthescale 3 years ago
Tara, you are wonderful...that was such an insightful response. I think I was using ambivalence as an excuse to not fight the eating disorder. I think I secretly wished that the recovery process wasn't so hard and kinda gave up on it...but ironically, it seems...making the -choice- to fight the eating disorder will weaken the ambivalence in time...I feel so comforted by yours and Fran's responses - thank you so much. I am looking forward to your videos:)
dolphin087 3 years ago
I am glad you found it useful, keep fighting ! It is hard but my worse day in recovery is better than my best day in my eating disorder!
killthescale 3 years ago
Hey I'm so glad your part of it too! I like your model better then the one my clinic uses....my clinic kind of forgets the relapse part =(, and that unfortunately is part of it...you should consider publishing it (it is yours right?).
OMG my first admission we totally realized that thing about food. The thing we're addicted to we actually have to confront on a daily basis-its quite annoying...one of the reasons that I feel we managed rather then cure this for the most part. Look fwd to more.
beautywithin85 3 years ago
It is mine, and it is the basic model of a book I am writing. I am writing it with a therapist, and we have presented at a couple of conferences. I am also working on research to support the model. Mostly lit reviews right now,
killthescale 3 years ago
Your cycle made a lot of sense, I can define myself with that.
You've done a great job, I can't wait to see more video's of you!
banaz112 3 years ago
Thanks :)
killthescale 3 years ago
Karen here. I'm lovin this Tara! Full of wisdom & insight. TY for joining! Much love, xxx,
Karen
WeRFreEDomFighters 3 years ago
Thanks, I have been watching your vids for a while! I love all the wisdom you have to offer too!
Tara
killthescale 3 years ago
Tara, this video is great!!!
It's so good to be working with you!!!
Welcome!!!
xoxo
Fran
FranFromBrazil 3 years ago
You too!!! I love you Fran!
killthescale 3 years ago
A lot of substance, Tara. You are a valuable resource for this recovery channel. Add balance for all the various stages we are in. Thank you.
tommax26 3 years ago
I mean you DO add balance for the various stages we are in...haha.
tommax26 3 years ago
Thanks, it is a journey eh?
killthescale 3 years ago
Hi Tara, Welcome. This was a great very interesting video!
Yesterday I was thinking about the "cycle" and I'm 100% with you. Let's keep working striving toards recovery :)
Take care***
DeconstructingMiaMod 3 years ago
Yes, we will fight together!
killthescale 3 years ago
Tara, yay! I am so excited you join this, I once suggested you for the old collab ;)
I really like your videos, you are a great and adorable woman and I think we all can learn much from you.
xoxo
favea 3 years ago
Thanks you are sweet :)
killthescale 3 years ago
welcome!!! wow this was soo interesting and sooo true!! can't wait to see more of you!!
sexitaliana629 3 years ago
thanks, I am going to try and catch up on all your vids this week. I have watched some.
killthescale 3 years ago