Ghostcircle Physical Mediumship - Flower Moving - Part I

[ghostcircle]

Either you believe it, or you don't.

[ytringer]

I can confirm that this is real. I got the idea to try this from this video. You do not need a flower. You can do this to any (long) object you like to. I am not sure if you have to have gifts in mediumship to do this.If you are enough people in the room you can even get the flower to shake and bend over.

[supersuperrich]

Forget the skeptics. If Jesus himself appeared in their kitchen and made them a grilled cheese sandwich, they'd say it was a big trick (as big as their big fat heads). Post a video and you're laying pearls before swine. Why critique a video when no video can be proven to be genuine. Watch and study, and research and find the truth. p.s. In this video, you've just seen some truth ! You lucky bast*rds. By the way, your sandwich is ready.

[Tigerpaws9097826]

Patrick, it's not my intent to be unfairly harsh, but at least parts of this video do look similar to the way an illusionist might do this sort of thing - the hand movements, combined with transparent thread with one end fixed to a base (your belt, say), could at times cause the flower to move as it does. It's fair to say that at other times, I can't envision a way this could be done with purely physical means. For now, I am skeptical, but can't reject this out of had as inauthentic.

[ghostcircle]

It was done under scientific conditions with scientists in another experiment, and has been repeated. I have other footage which i will put up in time. If you want to try and do it using tricks go ahead, but you won't be able to re-create the scene in the footage. The person holding it held it as tight as they could and never sat in a circle before. These are the facts.

[Tigerpaws9097826]

Well, I'll keep watching. I do believe there are authentic paranormal events, and unfortunately there's also a lot of well-intentioned misperception as well as outright fraud in such demonstrations. I can't tell yet on my own what sort of thing I'm looking at here, but will remain "skeptically open minded" if that makes sense. I look forward to the videos you'll be posting in the future.

[ghostcircle]

I am offended, as you basically called me a cheat and that the Botanist moved the fingers. I held the hand and fingers tightly. Try it yourself with someone else and suggest it to move. I have worked with hypnotherapists and psychologists. Prove me wrong with suggestabilty. Do a video yourself. I await...

[psychicjohngreen]

suggestion is playing a very big part in this experiment and being very honest you can see the botanist finger and thumb physically twisting the flower. In the dark this can be dissorientating and i am guessing your subject does not consciously know he is twisting the flower around. It is border lining hypnotic suggestion. Do the same with other people only next time dont suggest anything that WILL happen. spirit can and do hear your thoughts. just think and see what happens? regards from John

[ghostcircle]

I'm not a hypnotists and your facts are wrong. The fingers are not moving. Try moving the flower round WITH two fingers, its very obvious that you have to shuffle them back into place. Try it.

This has been independently witnessed in front of scientists but that was not on camera.

[psychicjohngreen]

Im not being clever nor funny but! as you said you are not a hypnotist! meaning you dont realise that you are using suggestion..its not aimed at being clever more helpful advice,please dont write nasty things on my message box as you have just done? I am only speaking from my professional experiences not being funny nor clever i assure u.

Please dont be offended.

I work with very well respected physical mediums and we have to always b aware of these things ourselves.

sorry if you are offended

[vincemedium]

i do agree with you !

[ghostcircle]

LOL Three people were holding the flower. You are obviously from the Randi school of fake magicians. I mean poor fakes.

Perhaps you can do the fake experiment on video yourself...LOL but you won't. Debunkers

[Genesimmons8]

Notice that he doesn't let anyone touch it other than the way he wants. He won't let you use two hands, he picked the flower and no one bothered to examine it after. Probably done with magicians invisible thread and possibly a hummingbird reel.