@BassBiznuss At Nationals we compete under NAIGC rules which has the following exception:
"Any recognizable gymnastics skill which is not listed in the FIG Code of Points, NGJA/USA Gymnastics Interpretations, Junior Olympic Program Manual or Junior Olympic Program Update will receive an A value with no element group credit."
@DrAlexisOlson thanks, I need to check on that, then. "...unless otherwise stated, all rules will be as per the FIG CoP. - USAG JO manual beginning of chapter 10 see chapter 2a. This then leads me to the NGJA/USAG rules interpretations of 2005-8 revision 13 bottom of page 15 under PB:
2. Upper arm roll (shoulder roll) on Pbars is a non-permitted skill I think in NAIGC the only thing that could go wrong would be having a strict by the book judge who would take for this.
@Tygrus It's all very confusing to me. In one competition season I compete under three or four slightly different code systems (FIG JO, NAICG, TGA, NCAA). I haven't actually compete p-bars in over five years though, so it doesn't really matter.
@DrAlexisOlson that sounds like a nightmare. my only concern is if naigc guys compete it in their routine and then get a unknowning deduction for it due to a strict judge.
As a judge, I could care less for NAIGC, but I could see about holding to it at Nationals. Let's face it that no one is probably going to compete a shoulder roll on PB at NAIGC nationals.
However, we all there are judges out there who would take for this besides being a stickler for it. We have one in our area possibly.
@Tygrus Actually, NAIGC Nationals is probably the only place I would put that in a routine. One of my teammates competed a forward roll and a backward roll at last nationals.
From the NAIGC Nationals website under Special Optional Information:
"Any recognizable gymnastics skill which is not listed in the FIG Code of Points, NGJA/USA Gymnastics Interpretations, Junior Olympic Program Manual or Junior Olympic Program Update will receive an A value with no element group credit."
i have the exact same routine. i finish with a one rail straddle L, forward roll, back uprise, swing hand, back off. I'm not nearly as clean as you are though.
I can't figure out how to finish the routine without extra swings since I can't do a back uprise to handstand yet. (There's already and empty swing between the straddle cut and the L.)
I want to put a cast and a press handstand in there too. This reminds me that I need to work on p bars more. I've been neglecting them recently.
I know I've commented before; but now I have actually started doing some of these moves; I'm beginning to appreciate how hard it is; and you did it all so cleanly. I can do the kip and forward roll; straddle cuts seem impossible; especially from an uprise!
good job man! are those arm bands for the forward roll lol?
jmbecker2012 7 months ago
@jmbecker2012 More for the back uprise straddle cut. The arms get a bit bruised and scraped after a few of those.
DrAlexisOlson 7 months ago
actually I had the forwar roll to straddle cut in my level 8 routine 2 years ago. it's not in the code of points because it IS an illegal skill :\
BassBiznuss 10 months ago
@BassBiznuss At Nationals we compete under NAIGC rules which has the following exception:
"Any recognizable gymnastics skill which is not listed in the FIG Code of Points, NGJA/USA Gymnastics Interpretations, Junior Olympic Program Manual or Junior Olympic Program Update will receive an A value with no element group credit."
DrAlexisOlson 10 months ago
Umm, you do know that the forward shoulder roll is not allowed, right?
Tygrus 1 year ago
@Tygrus Not in FIG. I think it gets a no category A in JO though.
DrAlexisOlson 1 year ago
@DrAlexisOlson hmm, from how I interpret it since L9 follows FIG ruling&deductions
Tygrus 1 year ago
@DrAlexisOlson thanks, I need to check on that, then. "...unless otherwise stated, all rules will be as per the FIG CoP. - USAG JO manual beginning of chapter 10 see chapter 2a. This then leads me to the NGJA/USAG rules interpretations of 2005-8 revision 13 bottom of page 15 under PB:
2. Upper arm roll (shoulder roll) on Pbars is a non-permitted skill I think in NAIGC the only thing that could go wrong would be having a strict by the book judge who would take for this.
Tygrus 1 year ago
@Tygrus It's all very confusing to me. In one competition season I compete under three or four slightly different code systems (FIG JO, NAICG, TGA, NCAA). I haven't actually compete p-bars in over five years though, so it doesn't really matter.
DrAlexisOlson 1 year ago
@DrAlexisOlson that sounds like a nightmare. my only concern is if naigc guys compete it in their routine and then get a unknowning deduction for it due to a strict judge.
As a judge, I could care less for NAIGC, but I could see about holding to it at Nationals. Let's face it that no one is probably going to compete a shoulder roll on PB at NAIGC nationals.
However, we all there are judges out there who would take for this besides being a stickler for it. We have one in our area possibly.
Tygrus 1 year ago
@Tygrus Actually, NAIGC Nationals is probably the only place I would put that in a routine. One of my teammates competed a forward roll and a backward roll at last nationals.
From the NAIGC Nationals website under Special Optional Information:
"Any recognizable gymnastics skill which is not listed in the FIG Code of Points, NGJA/USA Gymnastics Interpretations, Junior Olympic Program Manual or Junior Olympic Program Update will receive an A value with no element group credit."
Just like I said.
DrAlexisOlson 1 year ago
i have the exact same routine. i finish with a one rail straddle L, forward roll, back uprise, swing hand, back off. I'm not nearly as clean as you are though.
Harrismon 1 year ago
I can't figure out how to finish the routine without extra swings since I can't do a back uprise to handstand yet. (There's already and empty swing between the straddle cut and the L.)
I want to put a cast and a press handstand in there too. This reminds me that I need to work on p bars more. I've been neglecting them recently.
DrAlexisOlson 1 year ago
I know I've commented before; but now I have actually started doing some of these moves; I'm beginning to appreciate how hard it is; and you did it all so cleanly. I can do the kip and forward roll; straddle cuts seem impossible; especially from an uprise!
natcomber13 2 years ago
That's pretty close to the beginning of my routine too. Aside from the straddle cut to L and moy to support.
I couldn't tell, but did you hit your feet on that moy?
matthewmovement 2 years ago
I probably did hit them a bit. I'm 6 feet tall so I have to put the bars a couple notches above regulation height not to hit my knees.
DrAlexisOlson 2 years ago
That's crazy, I have the same problem. It's difficult to do gymnastics when you're this tall. Haha.
I'm out for a bit though. Back trouble. =[
matthewmovement 2 years ago
It doesn't matter too much on some events like floor and vault, but it makes rings and pbars harder.
DrAlexisOlson 2 years ago
How does it make rings harder? Just the leverage on strength moves? Or swings too? I have a lot of trouble with my swing on rings.
matthewmovement 2 years ago
It makes strength moves harder. It shouldn't be an issue swinging.
DrAlexisOlson 2 years ago
really nice moves
natcomber13 2 years ago
so sick
i wish i could do that
LTankv 2 years ago