I apologize for my poor English (it is not my mother language and I do not live in an English-speaking country). Hey guys, do not you think you should calm down a little bit? This is just a commercial movie that depicted the life of a white man living with Indians. It did not scorn anything or anybody. It just shows the great pain tolerance of a man that endures such an ordeal; the movie does not say moron to anybody. In my opinion, the worst moron is that man that says moron to others.
I see it different. Your religion is sacred and holy, right, but it is not secret. It is Ok, when you don't want to show yourself doing that ritual, but it is also Ok, and a very good thing, when the ritual is shown to thw world by someone.
Maybe people are shocked, but they are impressed too, and gain kind of a feling for your culture.
I'm doing body-suspensions as a part of my western culture - and I feel deep respect for the origins seeing a movie like that. And I feel sympathy...
I saw this movie when I was in college. I was enthralled by the scene where Harris sees the White Buffalo as Manitou. I was a Baptist at the time, but it made be realize that God was to be EXPERIENCED not just BELIEVED. I have since left the baptists and enjoy a Mystic Path which allows me the experiences of the other worlds. Just before sleep, gaze at the screen of the mind, chant HU (pron. hugh) tune in to the Light and Sounds. Do this for twenty min. See what happens and what dream may come.
yea right like the guy would lay there and not even flinch no way how fake plus the skin would rip if you did it that shallow. Richard was probably drunk anyways. He usually was.
This is a holywood movie. This pull is probably fake. But the important fact is that energypulls and suspensions are real and people actually doing such rituals. It is good that such rituals are presented in the mainstream culture so people can learn about it. I do rituals (suspensions) myself.
Skin is tough and won't rip easily. I hung on 2 giant hooks for 45 min & my skin didn't rip at all. And I also don't use alcohol or drugs so I also don't use drank and drugs by my rituals.
As much as I know, Richard did all these ritual really, out of honour for the American Native Culture.
I bet he didn't drink. It was not the style of the original ritual and he wanted to do the complete ritual with all the days of preparation (as much as I know about it, read it somewhere).
Today... nobody doing pullings or suspension drinks before, doen't help, but makes the bdoy-reactions strange.
Skin - here is enough skinused to hang for an hour without tiniest tearing...
This was the best of the 3 "Horse" movies I thought, I made my local library buy it to keep in stock. And if you liked this try Little Big Man with Dustin Hoffman also an excellant movie where White and Indian worlds cross.
Misunderstandings galore here in comments; it is a private ritual that i wish had never been portrayed. It is fairly true to life; but very personal as a man talks to god. been there, done that. Some folks at sundances don't do it that way; it's a matter of personal choice. More reading on the plains 'indians' is required. mbn
Si see it different... I am thanksful, to have the possibility to get an insight into a very interesting culture, by these pretty exactly portraing movies! There is a difference between watching and reading, I can understand the reason, the motivation, when I see this. (but Ok, I like the modern "white" form, the body-suspension-rituals, and I did it already several times..., so I am not average regarding that).
You might be thinking of the first film - A Man Called Horse. The Return of a Man Called Horse is the sequel where Richard Harris returns to find his tribe in deep doodoo and he saves the day
If you ever get the chance to watch The Mystic Warrior with Robert Beltran there's a good scene in it when when he seeks a vision and goes through the same thing.
It is not about the pain. It is about the zone after the pain. When doing rituals the pain will vanish within 5 - 10 minutes and you'll feel great and calm. I do suspensions my self, so I know.
It seems you get hallucinations after 6 hours. My longest time is now 65 min of a suspension. I want to do a 6 hour pull in the future.
If it is so bad and painful people don't do this and really at least 10000th of people are doing this kind of rituals.
There are big differencies between the rituals theirselves. While chest suspension / pulling is extremely painful, requiring a lot of psychical preparation, other rituals are easy to do, only a matter of short mediocre self-conquest. The native american way scales the level of endurance and patience of the people, and it brings indeed hallucinations, dreams, while / after the people passing out, due to the physical (hormonal) stress (adrenaline, endorphines in high dosis).
...The native indians provoked rather rapid passing out by the whole procedure - while these people were unconscious, they still were dreaming - not the typical way of loosing consciosness. Theses status was searched. (Doing my first suspension it happened to me, suddently low blood pressure, I passed out, but went into a sleep dreaming all day laboratory work, and oh my god, I was angry when the people awakened me (had strong sleep deprivation...) for a few seconds. (Hung than again - no prob.)
2pt chest and perhaps some other ways is really painful (I never tried a 2 pt chest), but much of the suspensions and pulls are well to do with some preparations.
Read also the stuff of Lightningchase1973 or look some suspension movies on youtube.
Cleaning your lifestyle is a part of the spiritual process. If you have too much fat you can start dieting. I have lost 30 kg within 1 year time before my first suspension. If you are very long can always do a superman or any other much more hooks suspension.
YEAH...i flushed that motherfucking antideprssant down the toilet after 20 yrs. i am DONE. FINISHIO! i have been awakened to truth and i am done with drugs. the fucking murderers that are runnin this country are the ones that are SICK. not me! back to raw foods, seeds, the word of God, and standing up for myself for a FUCKING CHANGE
Anyone thinks Avatar is the sci-fi version of Man Called Horse?
Johnlindsey289 6 months ago
well said davidjr4u
maidmoira 1 year ago
Okay i wouldnt want to be hung by my nipples.
TOMMY95215 1 year ago
@TOMMY95215 then dont watch this video
mrthunderspirit 1 year ago
Excellent movie ..... I have it on DVD !!
breffnipark 1 year ago
Osiyo is the “hello greeting” we use within Cherokee Na+ions ~*
HaliacetusLeuco 1 year ago
i do this kind of spirital sundance in brownig montana it is supost to be a sacred ceramony same songs kinda sound formiliar but stop stop
kainaipride96 1 year ago
I saw this movie about ten years ago. Loved it!
nbarca 1 year ago
It looks so painful, but it makes me rather curious about the culture and origins of this practice.
TymeRyde 2 years ago
@YoSoyReinaDelilah mind you tell us what ceremony this it? its quite interesting
n15M0 2 years ago
great movie
jccf1963 2 years ago
I apologize for my poor English (it is not my mother language and I do not live in an English-speaking country). Hey guys, do not you think you should calm down a little bit? This is just a commercial movie that depicted the life of a white man living with Indians. It did not scorn anything or anybody. It just shows the great pain tolerance of a man that endures such an ordeal; the movie does not say moron to anybody. In my opinion, the worst moron is that man that says moron to others.
davidjr4u 2 years ago 6
@davidjr4u I'd say your correct and don't worry you speak better English than some people here in America
corpralkirsch 1 year ago
this is serious things like this shouldnt be on website, our religion is sacret
Nakotawarrior1990 2 years ago
your spelling and grammar shouldn't be on this website
PO0DGE 2 years ago
I see it different. Your religion is sacred and holy, right, but it is not secret. It is Ok, when you don't want to show yourself doing that ritual, but it is also Ok, and a very good thing, when the ritual is shown to thw world by someone.
Maybe people are shocked, but they are impressed too, and gain kind of a feling for your culture.
I'm doing body-suspensions as a part of my western culture - and I feel deep respect for the origins seeing a movie like that. And I feel sympathy...
Lightningchase1973 2 years ago 2
I think the first movie was the best. The series really went down hill from there.
outlaw1972 2 years ago
poor white man.
CreativeCritisizm 3 years ago
gross.
greyhawk000 3 years ago
I saw this movie when I was in college. I was enthralled by the scene where Harris sees the White Buffalo as Manitou. I was a Baptist at the time, but it made be realize that God was to be EXPERIENCED not just BELIEVED. I have since left the baptists and enjoy a Mystic Path which allows me the experiences of the other worlds. Just before sleep, gaze at the screen of the mind, chant HU (pron. hugh) tune in to the Light and Sounds. Do this for twenty min. See what happens and what dream may come.
Planomoran 3 years ago
INTERESTING comment Plan...very interesting.
ratonnewmex 3 years ago
I did a search for this movie on here. I still have memories / scenes burned into my memory from this AWESOME movie. I remember a White horse....
getfrog 3 years ago
I remember seeing the first movie when I was a
kid.Wasn't there great objection to showing
this on film?
CarlosMacMartin 3 years ago
me too Carlos...my hippie dad even made a sweatlodge. thank God for my grandparents adopting me!
ratonnewmex 3 years ago
yea right like the guy would lay there and not even flinch no way how fake plus the skin would rip if you did it that shallow. Richard was probably drunk anyways. He usually was.
seldomseennow 4 years ago
@Seldomseennow
This is a holywood movie. This pull is probably fake. But the important fact is that energypulls and suspensions are real and people actually doing such rituals. It is good that such rituals are presented in the mainstream culture so people can learn about it. I do rituals (suspensions) myself.
Skin is tough and won't rip easily. I hung on 2 giant hooks for 45 min & my skin didn't rip at all. And I also don't use alcohol or drugs so I also don't use drank and drugs by my rituals.
lighthouseprj 4 years ago
As much as I know, Richard did all these ritual really, out of honour for the American Native Culture.
I bet he didn't drink. It was not the style of the original ritual and he wanted to do the complete ritual with all the days of preparation (as much as I know about it, read it somewhere).
Today... nobody doing pullings or suspension drinks before, doen't help, but makes the bdoy-reactions strange.
Skin - here is enough skinused to hang for an hour without tiniest tearing...
Lightningchase1973 4 years ago
This was the best of the 3 "Horse" movies I thought, I made my local library buy it to keep in stock. And if you liked this try Little Big Man with Dustin Hoffman also an excellant movie where White and Indian worlds cross.
amethyst48 4 years ago
Nice videoclip.
I'm interested in such rituals myself. But I think it is good such rituals will be shown in a movie, so people will see it and can learn about it.
lighthouseprj 4 years ago 4
i found this movie in the trash last weekend. i cant wat eto get a hance to watch it.!
joealanouf 4 years ago
the first film was good, havent seen the two sequels
buckstrickland2 4 years ago
Misunderstandings galore here in comments; it is a private ritual that i wish had never been portrayed. It is fairly true to life; but very personal as a man talks to god. been there, done that. Some folks at sundances don't do it that way; it's a matter of personal choice. More reading on the plains 'indians' is required. mbn
MontanaBarNone 4 years ago 2
Si see it different... I am thanksful, to have the possibility to get an insight into a very interesting culture, by these pretty exactly portraing movies! There is a difference between watching and reading, I can understand the reason, the motivation, when I see this. (but Ok, I like the modern "white" form, the body-suspension-rituals, and I did it already several times..., so I am not average regarding that).
Lightningchase1973 4 years ago
I preffer the first one "a man called horse"it´s better than this one.
alerga 4 years ago 3
i was thinking of this the other day wow thanks
BAFKACHANPRODUCTION 4 years ago
I watched this in school once, it is a really good film, but i cant really rememeber it being like this. Is there another version of this film?
6Dark6Dreams6 4 years ago
You might be thinking of the first film - A Man Called Horse. The Return of a Man Called Horse is the sequel where Richard Harris returns to find his tribe in deep doodoo and he saves the day
darrenmparr 4 years ago
oh, i see, thats probably it then. thank you.
6Dark6Dreams6 4 years ago
I really liked this movie, but I'm shocked at being called "vintage." ROFLLL (kidding)
RiverBirch1967 4 years ago
ouch that must have hurt
reeka411 4 years ago
This film , inspired to "MAN FROM DEEP RIVER" OF UMBERTO LENZI.
funkberto 4 years ago
possibly the most sickening scene in movie history
tali4569 4 years ago
If you ever get the chance to watch The Mystic Warrior with Robert Beltran there's a good scene in it when when he seeks a vision and goes through the same thing.
ELM22 4 years ago
Damm good special effets... almost looked REAL..
elchicho25 5 years ago
It looks real to me.
cguevara12 4 years ago
its just a movie.....special effects...that look very real and painful!
jessica29406 4 years ago
I remember that my grandfather doing those Indian traditions.
cguevara12 4 years ago
@Jessica29406
It is not about the pain. It is about the zone after the pain. When doing rituals the pain will vanish within 5 - 10 minutes and you'll feel great and calm. I do suspensions my self, so I know.
It seems you get hallucinations after 6 hours. My longest time is now 65 min of a suspension. I want to do a 6 hour pull in the future.
If it is so bad and painful people don't do this and really at least 10000th of people are doing this kind of rituals.
lighthouseprj 4 years ago
There are big differencies between the rituals theirselves. While chest suspension / pulling is extremely painful, requiring a lot of psychical preparation, other rituals are easy to do, only a matter of short mediocre self-conquest. The native american way scales the level of endurance and patience of the people, and it brings indeed hallucinations, dreams, while / after the people passing out, due to the physical (hormonal) stress (adrenaline, endorphines in high dosis).
Lightningchase1973 4 years ago
...The native indians provoked rather rapid passing out by the whole procedure - while these people were unconscious, they still were dreaming - not the typical way of loosing consciosness. Theses status was searched. (Doing my first suspension it happened to me, suddently low blood pressure, I passed out, but went into a sleep dreaming all day laboratory work, and oh my god, I was angry when the people awakened me (had strong sleep deprivation...) for a few seconds. (Hung than again - no prob.)
Lightningchase1973 4 years ago
are you serious?!
ratonnewmex 3 years ago
@ratonnewmex
2pt chest and perhaps some other ways is really painful (I never tried a 2 pt chest), but much of the suspensions and pulls are well to do with some preparations.
Read also the stuff of Lightningchase1973 or look some suspension movies on youtube.
lighthouseprj 3 years ago
i know how to be suspended spiritually....i am a bit too 'heavy' to try other ways...anyway, to each his own. strange fucking world we live in.
ratonnewmex 3 years ago
@ratonnewmex
Cleaning your lifestyle is a part of the spiritual process. If you have too much fat you can start dieting. I have lost 30 kg within 1 year time before my first suspension. If you are very long can always do a superman or any other much more hooks suspension.
lighthouseprj 3 years ago
YEAH...i flushed that motherfucking antideprssant down the toilet after 20 yrs. i am DONE. FINISHIO! i have been awakened to truth and i am done with drugs. the fucking murderers that are runnin this country are the ones that are SICK. not me! back to raw foods, seeds, the word of God, and standing up for myself for a FUCKING CHANGE
ratonnewmex 3 years ago
It is...
Richard Harris DID PERFORM the complete ancient indian ritual of the sundance...
Lightningchase1973 4 years ago