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  • hahaha, the back-leg stance only for pose in the end after beating the partner...sigh

  • in the second scene the master had at least dislocated the ankle of the guy. "SIFU" doesn't mean just "master", it means "father" too. now i'm here to ask: "would ever a true sifu voluntarily injury his guys only to flaunt his strenght".. may these look like wing tsun techniqus, but this is NOT the wing tsun spirit!

  • 2:41...GOD DAMN!!!!! now thats what im looking for....

  • no aplica ningun bloqueo de wing chun

  • eso mas bien es karate no kung fu

  • 0:32 Who would jab from this distance?

  • We need to see Sifu Gutierrez actually fighting someone a few times, if he can really do that, so that we'll get the point behind these videos.

  • COMBINATED ATTACK WITH COMBINATED DEFENSE. I THINK WHAT EVERYBORY WANT TO SEE.... SOMEONE PROFESSIONAL OF THE WT FIGHTING WITH SOMEONE PROFESSIONAL OF MMA. REAL FIGHT! UNCONBINATED FIGHT, NATURAL FIGHT, WITH REAL EVENT... MORE FIGHT AND LESS TEATHER.

  • why i never see these techniques in cage fights? most of them like hits,elbows and knees are allowed..

  • i like number 13 and 22

  • 1:22 i think he killed em

  • i know a kickboxer who told me wing tsun is a kiddy sport.. he didnt know what it is, he just laughed abt this name.. then i invited him to a WT friend of me and that kickboxer get owned :D

    13 years practiced kickboxer lost vs a 3 years practiced WT..

  • This is not the tradionial Wing Tsun( i think it names Wing Re-evolution ). This Video only shows possible scenarios and no really free fight. 

  • you know what kinda make this vid not so real the guy who is giving the feed never gives a clear feed these clowns don't know how to properly bridge distance but once they actually get into distance they finally do real shit but it would hav never happened cuz they don't really know how to get there in the first place.

  • These are Scenarios, exept that it works in reality...

  • sold my guitar to the bakers son........

    for a few crumbs and a place to hide...

  • Even though Victor SCARE's the hell out me, i would like to see a demonstration on a person twice his size, not saying that he could'nt do it , but wanting to see how it's done.......Very High RESPECT......

  • You must see him with the new sistem and "live". He's great. I see him beat a guy who looks like a bodygard and karate 3th dan.

  • Muhaha enter the Boztepe-esque "too deadly and great in 30000 street fights" argument. If he is good he should go and compete somewhere. I know I know street thang.

    Screw, you are all nothing but a huge theory, TALKING the fight BUT never WALKING the walk. Gutierrez is no different than a salesman trying to sell you a cheap chinese-made vacuum cleaner for much more than it should really cost. Students of his SHOULD AWAKE, but I am not holding my breath, for they are a part of this pyramid-scheme

  • Sifu Boztepe was, not only sihing from sifu Victor, he was his instructor. The only thing was Boztepe made is go from the EWTO and teach the same sistem with another name, not like Sifu. He thinks abot the foults in WT sistem and try to resolved it. WT is effective, but could be more and that's the point yo Sifu. If you don't trust on his sistem, ok, i wan't discurs it. I think it works, I've see it. There are lot's opinion and all factible and good.

  • So he has been duping all his students back then with a bad-quality WT of the EWTO, it seems. This says a lot for his character and integrity.

    Victor may be good but you have almost zero proof of that except some demos and explanations along with many urban legends. Your post above is just an example of thiese speculations actually. VG is just a salesman, just like his former teachers Kernspecht and Boztepe, NOT A FIGHTER.

    Now let's discuss. btw

    Where did you see him FIGHT?

  • He has not duping nobody. He has tech what he thougt was a good sistem but at time he has try to cover some WT lagoons. It doesn't mean that GM Kernspecht or sifu Boztepe are bad. It's a diferent sistem but with the same base. He IS a fighter. I saw him in Murcia (Spain) against a 3th karate dan, taller and bigger than Sifu, and can swear you that this fight wasn't a demo.

  • these are just some moves. They apparently end when the opponent hits the floor. That does not mean in reality the Wing Chun Artist would stop attacking. Drills and real life situations are very differently.

  • Ouch that first stamp on the ankle looks like a killer! Nice...

  • la cosa es, ke si a ti uno te viene en plan maton, y tu vas de buenas de pardillo y cuando el te ataca tu le sorprendes tirandole al suelo de esta manera, dudo ke se levante e intente golpearte otra vez, seria de suicidas.

  • It is beyond being bearable after 4.20 or so when that guy falls down, totally knocked out, not to come back again. Our famous Spaniard did not even hit him like a woman boxer would and he is KO?

    guys PLEASE keep ur hard-earned money in ur pockets, go and train some Kyokushin or Muay Thai if you wanna see real KO's.

  • Look at the pathetic puch at 0.33. It is not even touching where the waiting guy used to be. As it fails to do this, the arm remains there with the puncher guy's face looking to his right and his body half turned and with his right hand already in defence waiting WT punches.

    At 1.36 I still wonder what has made that guy fall that hard?

    While you are at it tell me what made those two punches that strong at 2.03 to make that colossal guy fall that hard.

  • Dude. While you make some good points you are also knocking some half decent techniques as well

    Victor Gutierrez does have some good stuff.

  • Show the ones you find decent bro.

  • Wingtsun Combat Effectiveness

  • Show me the techniques you find effective bro....

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  • Look on the video Wingtsun Combat Effectiveness

  • highlight the EFFING techniques you find good. Here in this video. I am saying nobody attacks you like that on the street, so if you are basing your demo on these phony illusions then you are making a HUGE mistake.

    WT is nice but not that nice. Go check some Kyokushin kumite or judo randori and compare these three in terms of power and applicability.

  • Nobody attacks you like that on the street

    agreed.

    The defence techniques could be used though. Kyokushin sports karate is good but not geared up for the street

    Judo is dismal for the street.

  • Man I, as a noone from zhe internetzz, assure you that kyokushin is HUGE for the street. Visit one kyokushin training and yoy will agree with me.

    Regarding JUDO you could not have been so wrong about something.

    JUDO rocks man.

    You don't know me and prolly never will, but both of these sports are better than this FRP type training.

    Now it is up to you to believe in this statement or not.

    best regards

  • Wing Chun won almost every Kung Fu tournament in China. It is regarded the strongest Kung Fu style existed. The students of Yip Man would go out and fight with other Martial Artists and criminals to test their strength.

    It is powerful and effective. If you really think it is not, you just don't know what you're talking about. We could go on scolding each other, but thats a fact. You don't know what you're talking about.

    best regards

  • @lordtains wut bout Praying Mantis

  • what about it?

  • @lordtains isnt Prying Mantis nice i heard WC has a problem against it

  • You mean Wing Chun isn't good against Praying Mantis? or the other way around?

    Praying Mantis is very interesting. The hands move very quickly, and the legs are deceiving. Lots of fast movements and takedowns in that style (depending on what lineage is practiced of course).

  • @lordtains

    the skills of wing chun are practical, they are for killing...

    therefore wing chun almost doesn't work in a boxing competition...

  • @pakeyboy For killing?! HAHA! For wanking - YES! For wanking! WC doesn't work in boxing competition because it's for killing?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA­HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    Find ANY Pro boxing video in Youtube and watch VERY carefully before you talk shit!

  • @valgez by the way boxer got no and i repeat NO chance vs WT

  • @pakeyboy wc or WT doesnt have some rules, thats the reason... every fighting sport got rules, WT got no rules...

  • @lordtains if it is a fact where is the documentation to prove it? You cant' use hearsay as proof. Now if WC is so effective how come there is no mention of practitioners wininng or at least being among the finalist to the National Guoshu Examinations during the Chinese Republican period? Why WC was not used to train military officers during the war, if it was so good? Instead the Huangpu Academy taught Xingyi Quan, and in the National Examinations many of the finalists were XYQ practitioners

  • @Tianshanwarrior

    The reason it isn't taught to the military is because in order to be good at WC you have to be conditioned and the military doesn't have time for that. Which is way stuff like ju jitzu and Krav Maga are so popular is that they require little training and more importantly no conditioning.

  • @thundarlips01 are you telling me that a soldier does not need conditioning? are you kidding me? marching for hours, sleeping little, carrying all the gear requires a ton of conditioning! on top of that be combat ready at any time.

  • Wing Chun is not an art you'd want to fight against.

  • Dear Lord,

    if you want to believe in some old chinese tales it is all your decision. Plus Ip Man was a good fighter no doubt. The QUESTION is are you one? Is one normal guy going to be decent fightrer after he trains 2 years of WT-WC? I find that very DUBIOUS ...

    That is the comparison we should talk about:: the changes one martial art brings about for an average citizen. In this sense WT-WC would fare poorly.

    Sorry to rain on your parade.

  • Do not get me wrong, I have also trained in Taekwondo and Ninjutsu so I do not believe in "one art" or anything like that.

    Kung Fu (or Wushu) take a long time to learn, just like any internal art (such as Aikido as well). "If it takes so long before you can use it in actual combat why not learn Krav Maga or Boxing which take shorter time?"

  • The anwser to that is quite simple. Internal arts bring you much more than just the ability to fight. They bring you peace of mind and enlightenment, something external arts like Boxing and Krav Maga (or MMA) will not bring you.

    This Wushu style Wing Chun however, is very to the point. Krav Mage took many of its techniques because of it's practical use. If one trains in a good dojo, then YES in two years he will be a good fighter, able to beat most street punks.

  • Hey, in WT you need 15 to 20 years to get a master yip man was a grandmaster. Not everyone gets a master especially not a grandmaster.

    These guys with the black shirt and red emblem you see here in the video trained at least 10 years WT.

    That what you mean is rather in karate the first black belt you get there is a masterbelt!

    It takes longer to ''master'' WT or VT than karate or tae kwon do.

  • so you will have to wait for 15-20 years to defend yourself? really? when you are 40 years old or something.

    These guys are jokes, do BJJ and MT seriously and at the same time and you will be a fine fighter in say 3-4 years, dependng on you.

  • hmm.. no

  • no in the sense that you will NEVER be able to defen yourself?

    oh yes hell yes. you WT-WC guys are one pathetic bunch of story-tellers.

  • @ggehuz

    Well, i've kept quiet for quite some time now but all this hate on wing-chun is really starting to peeve me. Where is it that all these fools are basing their statements off of? It doesnt take 15-20 years to learn how to defend yourself with wing-chun, maybe you're just not meant to use such a system.

  • I did not say that. WT guys themselves did it. BTW it is not HATE; it is "learned opinion", that I am uttering here. Take it or leave it. Not that I force people to obey me or something.

    regards

  • @gutsu91 exactly. The Southern Chinese insurgency back in the day was turning out fighting in just a few years.

  • Pathetic bunch of story tellers? Why don't you show us how you would do it... I'm a WT pratitioner, and ill tell you what, if you really wanna test your skills, come talk to one of our instructors about a no holds barred match. We'll see how bad our "story telling" is then... Btw this video sucks

  • of course you are.

    there are many tournaments going on as of now, so if you are really that keen for fighting please feel free to join these MMA matches. then share some video please. BTW videos of your WT in the ring, not disguised MT and BJJ.

  • De todas formas, más que mostrar peleas, parece que están mostrando movimientos del WT, no?

  • i felt this bullshit you fools just come to the carbonerras summercamp at august and try

  • Wing Tsun is based on intercepting punch and reach, if you put protection with razor or spikes in your arms, then Wing Tsun fighters can't touch you withwout having severe trauma. And is hard to use against Muay fighters, because can't counter his hands when he is atacking.

  • so does your spelling haha

  • i think you mean leung ting :-D

    did you ever try wingtsun? i think wt is the best fight art on world!

  • to be honest i dont like leung ting that much neither and ive been praticing wing tsun for a year,thing about leung ting is that u give em a lot of money for him to train you by levels the good thing about training with victor or his brothers is that the take your money but they show you how to fight no matter wat grade u are but wats ur skills

  • lo digo y lo repito; es muy facil hacer tecnicas de vingtsun o de lo que sea contra un atacante que se lanza hacia delante, deslizando los pies en el suelo, y mirando hacia atrás. porque practicar haciendo contacto solo demuestra que se practica haciendo contacto, no que el sistema es bueno. el karate a toda potencia también es espectacular, pero no significa que el karate sea lo mejor. y podíais dejaros ya de retos y comparaciones. eso solo demuestra una cosa: inmadurez.

  • Yo no veo que el tío mire hacia abajo cuando le ataca.

  • Yo llevo poco tiempo practicándolo, pero la razón que me llevó a empezar es que pude comprobar por mi mismo esto con un amigo que lo practica, no importa que te eches para adelante, o que recules, pues entonces ataca él, y cuando te has llevado el primer puñetazo, giro, o lo que sea, ya no puedes hacer nada, estas a su merced, no se como sería en una pelea real, pues no he visto a mi amigo pelearse con nadie en serio, pero a mi me parece un buen arte marcial, sin rodeos.

  • a mi lo que no me gusta es que son muy agresivos entre ellos. si realmente quieren probar si sirve su sistema deberían pelear contra profesionales( venderlei silva, fedor emilianenko etc.) es bien facil pegarle a tus alunmos!

  • Hey, ahi esta Paco el de CPV!! jejej, el chico rapado...

  • Why are these guys attacking from such distances? This is not realistic. With the first punch of the defender, which is nowhere close to that of say an average boxer in terms of speed and efficiency, the attacker gives it up, and that always!!

    No this shall&can not help you on the street fellas. Move on...

  • ggehuz- you apparently know very little about fighting - in other words your not a fighter - your an arm chair Quarterback. It would take a long time to educate you - suffice to say the closer the better for W.T.

  • no hes right

  • I know about WT, and the very fact that I have some posts of JKD would not make me a JKD practitioner. The techniques shown here are not realistic.

    The attackers give up the moment the guy with the red stripes touch them. This thing is JUST inapplicable on the street for it lacks power and for it is TOO RISKY to get into your opponent that close EVERYfuckingTIME. nOW WHO IS EDUCATING WHOM?

  • Man I am not talking about being close there, I made WT for a fairly long time. I am talking about the imbecile way of attacking your enemy just by running into him from 3-4 meters, without doing anything sound and meaningful in terms of martial arts.

  • I am talking about the imbecile way of attacking your enemy just by running into him

    Answer.

    So it is the attacker you are having a go at?

    OK

  • you talk bad about wing tsun when you got videos of jeet kune do which for your information haves techniques of wing tsun but it`s nice to know you have no idea of what your talking about ,makes me laugh when i read comments like this

  • totaly agree with you!

  • Ismael Carretero, un grande excelente.

    Gracias de Argentina-

  • Unrealistic 1-2 drills, I hate these

  • I think they are there only for showing applications. THis isnt really free fight. Its possible scenarios.

  • Its bullshit. Is what it is.

  • smart comment dumbshit

  • ooooh I've been totally trashed by that.

    It is total bullshit. Unimpressive, one person throws a silly uncommitted attack and the demostrator punches and kicks their partner and the guy falls out. Utterly convincing. Fantasy land.

  • If someone kicks you in your ankle and push you at the same time, it's really dificult not to go down. He do that to me and... well, I kiss the ground.

  • I've not got a problem with too many of the techniques. Just the bullshit way in which they are demonstrated.

  • @XhessCake go to wt man and try real fight with him, u will learn smth...

  • Hasta el momento, los videos mas estimulantes para mi gusto son estos(los de Victor Gutierrez), son los con las demostraciones mas reales, son mas interesantes que esas demostraciones donde apenas se tocan.

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