@YourMumMyCum are you not conforming to the psycological normality of your own media? VERY mature insults by the by. you might want to consider distancing yourself from mainstream patriotism. what if i told you the british were all apathetic drunks with stuck up superiority complexes and judging by your threats, murder impulses to boot. now we both know not all british people are that way.whether or not generalizing is wrong is irrelevant.the point is that you come off as ignorant
Biggest problem with American tourists: being completely contemptuous of other languages, they don't appreciate the difficulty of learning one. So when they meet someone who speaks English poorly they treat them like morons, talking loudly and slowly with lots of arm waving as if that'll help.
Shouting angrily at locals all over Europe will not assist any non-English speaker to understand what you're saying in English ("WHERE IS THE MCDAAAHNALDS AT?") And another thing, nobody likes those giant texan hats. Or your fat arse wedged into small golf pants.
"I rented a scooter in Rome and ran over a child. As I left I said sorry so he knows American's are polite...if he survived"...WTF!!! Stop and help you d-bag
You can't just blame Obama for the foolish ways Americans tend to act. If they're acting like idiots anywhere, you should expect them to be treated negatively. If "Americans throw garbage onto the streets" OF COURSE THEY WILL BE HATED!!! So would Arabians, English, and anyone else.
Americans are so stupid anyway. All they every do is act like idiots and then complain about people not appreciating them acting like idiots.
As a Canadian, I can honestly say, hating on Americans is considered socially normal. In fact, calling someone as "dumb as an American" is a pretty fucking severe insult.
This is so excellent satire of how ignorant and stupid some Americans are. I'm glad there are some smart people in the US though, who can spoof it like they do in The Onion. :)
@DYLANDISASTERbz Well aren't you a little judgemental one. Not every single American is ignorant, however you appear to be, and I feel sorry for your parents. If you live believing every stereotype, you'll have everyone, even yourself. The Onion is 100% satirical, mocking what ordinary news companies do every day, not making statements about America.
@csclips420 First you make me pay for other people's education, then you make me pay for other people's retirement, then food, next it's healthcare, and pretty soon it's going to be Ferraris and champagne. Well, I'm not giving up the Ferrari that my father EARNED for me just so you can have one for free.
The problem with stupid people in general is that they tend to be louder, and better reported than average or even intelligent people. What's a more entertaining news report: Guy sues taco bell for eating there and getting fat, or normal guy has lunch at taco bell?
Its amazing even in Ireland probably the most pro US country in europe, we shiver at the though of the american cousins coming over to "get in touch with their heritage" SIXTH COUSINS!!! I mean jesus christ out of all the national ancestries why pick to visit us?!?!
from all the things that have happend to cliffard banes, falling towards the earth at 100 miles an hour, fighting his nemesis atop a tower, sawing his fingers off, if cliffard banes were to come in he would look like the women that was mauled by that monkey.
....no medical training whatsoever, but yet feel they have the authority to determine my health care needs. Arguing that people should be forced against their free will into a UHC scheme with no choice to leave or modify is essentially arguing the Government has greater authority, will, and morality in making personal decisions for the individual than the individual him/herself. By you supporting UHC, you are asserting someone else's authority to dictate how I receive and fund my health care
"Is this true, are we in for even more american setiment" Oh yes you are... I'll tell you what, if you continue to make up bullshit abot (i.e) the new stamp for William and Kate's wedding and that ther is line in the middle of the stamp and that Will wil urn more money that Kate because hey will seperate soon ad etc...
I seriously dont understand how you americans can make up so much bullshit about a fucking line in the middle of the stamp... And yes you are the only one that came up with that
Are they really blaming a president for the worldwide anti-American sentiment?? The only people responsible for that are the Americans who behave like that! A change of behavior on their part would have more chances of solving the problem. How do you want Obama to solve it, if Americans don't change their own ways? But anyways I don't think it's the majority of Americans,but often it's the minority who creates an image for the whole group.
An American spat at me the other day, then he said : "It wasn't my fault that you attract saliva." Naturally, I forgave him because he has Obama for a president. :O
@doughnutboy99 So Justin Bieber walks into a bar and says, "hey, you know what Joseph Stalin wrote in the comments section of a scientology video when Farraday Built his Cage? Thumbs up please."
this is suppose to be a comedy, all guys do is to turn it to a freaking politic. just have a laugh and move on. if wanna talk politic go to the tea party or something(not sure what democrats calls theirs)......
@DoctorWeeTodd The French are different. It's more subtle. Do you speak French? If you don't, then maybe you can't understand the subtelty of their attitudes. Also, if you don't speak French, maybe they don't show their true self to you. Of course, not all French are rude. But what I mean is that while the Ameircans and English might explicitly look down on cultures, or explicitly impose their belief that their views and their values are superior than others'...the French are more subtle with it
@DoctorWeeTodd I don't know how to explain it, but it's different. They have a way of being more courtuous, more polite in their arrogant manners. That's why it's subtle and that's why you may very well never notice it.
You know, I wish I never started Youtube sometimes... why? because I am a 11 year old girl who has learned all of the hate in the world... I can't go on even one with out thinking about how people hate me for my state, country, and race...
be careful what you say... because it could change someone's life...
please understand that youtube is not the best representation of the world. Something about it encourages anger and generalization, and of course the people who spend the most time on it are the people who have no lives. it's vastly the angry nerdy jerks of the world who fill youtube's comments section.
@CLoLopez1 I'd love to see the bloopers of the Onion... In the case of the guy you are talking about, I would never be able to say that with a straight face. :)
Awww, I was so looking forward to hearing Clifford's insights on this matter. Hope you were planning on painting that birdhouse red, get well soon big C!
Guess what. Asia > USa. You talk a lot of shit about USa having "All the great companies". Guess what? Whoo works for all the shit. Asia. Who makes all the shit. Asia. 99% all the shit you have is "Made in Asia/China/India" Now get your weak shit out and take your fucking retarded stats with you.
Asia has 4 billion people but together only has half of the economic output of the US, when we only have 300 million.
The reason stuff is made in Asia is because they have cheap labor that American companies can exploit to maximize profits. All of the stuff is designed by American companies, and it's American companies that get the majority of the profit.
Your argument is dumb. It's like saying a construction worker is the mastermind behind a skyscraper.
@N0wShutUp Typical dumb ass Canadian. Can't accept that Canada is just a shitty imitation of the US. Talks about US debt even though Canada's debt is actually higher relative to income.
You say America relies on Asia (Asian relies on us too). And meanwhile Canada relies ENTIRELY on the US. 95% of Canada's economy depends directly on American trade and investment from Americans. If Canada didn't border the US, Canada would be a 3rd world country. And yet you don't realize how dumb you are...
@MercenarySlick america really doesnt have anything going for it. we are simply conveinent because it lowers shipping costs of raw materials if canada sells product directly to us. america is just that middle man that thinks he is some kind of bad ass that no one really wants to have to deal with.
@sentient23 You do realize you claim the US is useless while 80% of the medical technology in Canadian health system is American. You are claiming the US is useless while on your American invented PC, OS, modem/router, Internet, while on a US website.
You could always use Canadian alternatives......oh that''s right....NONE exist. I rest my case
@greg5566 Actually it is not - It is not. The US accounts for the majority of medical R&D investments and furthermore the top 100 medical research companies are american. America did not invent the Internet? Then put your money where you mouth idiot and tell me who invented the internet - The ISOC which is not an AMERICAN says you are full of shit as you are.
You say that what I say regarding Canada having bailed out the banks more is a statistic from the US Government?........continued
@ShayisWY Jesus, you have the reading comprehension of a 3-year-old.
Your argument is that Canadian healthcare (socialized) is not better than American because it is actually American R&D that makes Canadian HC great. My point is that all that R&D you are talking about COMES FROM FEDERALLY FUNDED UNIVERSITIES. SOCIALIZED.
(If you counter with something like pharma, it is HEAVILY subsidized by the US gov't--socialized.)
Your argument is against socialism, and it fails spectacularly.
@greg5566 Actually a large majority of medical research is funded mainly through private ventures. Furthermore an even larger majority is conducted via private/ profit institutions. Again US funds were through their research or grants to other groups comprise a small minority of medical research funding. See ^ OECD Health Data 2009 - Frequently Requested Data.and Moses, H et al. Financial Anatomy of Biomedical Research. JAMA 2005;294-1333-1342
@ShayisWY If you are going to cite resources, you must include two things: the exact quote that you are referring to (the first citation says nothing about research funding), and a link to access the article.
@ShayisWY Here is a fascinating line from the second cite: "The United States spent an estimated 5.6% of its total health expenditures on biomedical research, more than any other country, but less than 0.1% for health services research." I think that says it all.
@greg5566 Your quote doesn't prove or disprove anything and is ambiguous. Funny did not post the rest of it. It is quite apparent you do not understand what context it is in or what meant by "health services research" - You don't even under the context in comparison to other nations. By your excitement, you seem to think it is relation to discovery of diseases and/ or treatment of existing diseases. Hence insinuating US invests very little in these areas. ....continued
@ShayisWY The world is more complex than a libertarian would have you believe. It is only by denying reality that it is even possible to hold conservative views. Logic/reality and conservatism are mutually exclusive. You can't seem to keep straight the difference between attacking someone's _conception_ of something, and discussing the thing itself. MY point is that the US is socialist. Government by definition is socialist--pooling resources. Anyway, I'm done. You're boring.
@greg5566 Libertarian does not equal being conservative and vice versa. Libertarian contrary to popular believe is not exclusively right as it shares many aspects. For you to imply other vice highlights you idiocy. You remind me of the dumb-asses who think Karl Marx advocated for a Socialist society, when in fact he saw a socialist like system as a way of collapsing the industrial complex and eventually all forms of governments. "Logic/reality" Explain how and why it is logical......
@greg5566 to force someone against their own will into a relationship with a Government or any other identity? Why should it be illegal for individual to have the choice of whether he Gov, private insurance is right for them....or no insurance at all? How can you advocate stripping people of rights of self determination in regards to their own health is morale? Perhaps you feel the Gov is greater than the people it is overseeing, but I don't
@greg5566 "socialist--pooling resources" No it is not as it not the necessarily the fact they are pooled, but how they are pooled. Also to what extent the collection and distribution is voluntary. Simple pooling resources for re-distribution does not constitute one being a socialist. The concept of collecting/ pooling fiscal resources for the state via progressive taxation is actually capitalist in origin and not socialist. Adam smith argued passionately for progress taxation
@greg5566 Health Serv. Research is a specialized research field that primarily looks at social aspects mainly how we get access to doctors and health services, how much it costs, among others. HSR has traditionally comprised a tiny tiny portion of all medical research funds in any given country.
Your assertion that most of American medical discoveries are gov/public and that have a government social program equates to socialism is simply false. Socialism is a hell of a lot more complex.
@ShayisWY Uh, that is precisely what I know it means, which is the point of quoting the passage. The "US has great health care" argument is that we have the best equipment ("machines that go PING") which is a common idiotic libertarian fantasy view of the world. Which is a more "successful" system, one that gives every single citizen basic health care? Or one that gives the wealthiest amazing health care while 50 million go without it at all, and it is a nightmare for anyone else?
@greg5566 US does have a better health care system than Canada, though not perfect as people should have the right to have gov insurance, private, or no insurance at all. Canadians suffer and die unnecessary as result of UHC as confirmed by the Supreme Court of Canada.
"50 million go without it" What a load of shit on your part. Not only have you idiots say 50 million have no insurance you come on here and bullshit how they have no access to health care.
@greg5566 I have seen your posts on this here - Please tell me why if American health care is so terrible, then why do Americans out survive Canadians in most non-communicable diseases such as Cancer, heart issues, stroke, etc? Canada does have a system does mainly do not require up front payment, but is not free and we also pay for it through waits and lack of resources for Dr's to do their jobs.
As I have said the US system is not perfect, but I would rather be broke then DEAD.
@ShayisWY Could you do me a favor, if possible? Could you try to speak English? Many of your messages are so garbled it is difficult to follow them.
Regarding Americans out-surviving Canadians, please be specific, with precise citations. Krugman writes a lot about this, how the statistics you use are the wrong statistics. (I.e., "life expectancy" is going up in the US: not true. It has gone up for the super-wealthy, the rest of us have stayed the same. That is just one example.)
@greg5566 Holly fuck idiot I did not mention any thing about life expectancy. and I am speaking about disease survivability Search World Health Organization > search "infobase" in their system as you can cross compare nations, diseases and of course the mortality incidence...etc. Americans out survive Canadians in almost all non-communicable diseases. BTW Krugman has already been proven wrong by many included Tyler Cowan. Krugman also regressive statistic modelling - not very reliable and high.
@ShayisWY Man, you're literally too dumb to hold a conversation. Post number 1: "Americans out survive Canadians." Post number 2: "I did not mention any thing about life expectancy." No wonder you are struggling with this conversation, you are not even aware of what YOU are saying!
In fact, ________________________________I_______________________________ didn't mention life expectancy. I mentioned US out-surviving Canada, your precise words! The life-expectancy was a fucking EXAMPLE!
@greg5566 Wow are so fucking desperate that your only attempt to defeat me is that you have to resort to out right lying and fabricating quotes like "Americans out survive Canadians." I never said this as what I said was "Americans out survive Canadians in most non-communicable diseases" posted 21 hours prior to this. I did not mention the average life expectancy of the two nations in our conversation as there are other factors that come into play - This is a little narative you created
@greg5566 margin of error. "the rest of us have stayed the same" no that was not Krugmans point at all. His point was that life expectancy for societies poor has not increased as much as those who are wealthy. Not surprising given poor people are likely to participate in unhealthy habits. Regardless of which is the cause or effect, again I should be forced into a scheme against my will to support these people unless I decide to do so. People who are wealthy are so because they have silver spoon
@greg5566 like Canada, most high income earners are self made. These people are more wise than someone who is poor and it is only natural that these people make better life decisions. Our habits as a whole have gotten worse since 1980 and poor people believe it or not tend to over eat foods that are not good, less likely to exercise, more likely to be obese. As these habits have gotten worse since 1980 , it is only natural that life expectancy increases for poor people won't as much as a
@greg5566 those who make better life choices like not over-eating and stuffing their bodies with fat. I think it miracle that life expectancy has increased at all considering...,,
Also these poor people are often on Medicare/aid Since you are making the argument a government system of health care can deliver better quality of care, should these people not be living as long, if not longer than a person who is wealthy and does not qualify for Medicare/aid ?
@greg5566 Seriously there is nothing in the world preventing you from going to m-w dot com and typing in "holly" to see whether that is the correct spelling. You could be black as night, that doesn't prevent you from looking up the words you type before you send a post. I'm not the racist one here, you are: you think apparently that some races are incapable of using a dictionary? Give me a break.
@greg5 Clearly you have issue with people who's 2nd language is english. Regardless, I have defeated you in each and every one of my points and you have completley side stepped my questions as to why should Government authority should supercede free will of the indvidual in terms of personal health care choices and why people shouldn't be permited the right to self determine their healh care needs.
"could be black as night" I am not black, but what do black people have to do with anything?
@greg5566 Sorry I find it telling and hilarious how are talking to yourself on this post.....LOL. ""what do black people have to do with anything?" again I ask what do black people have to do with anything regarding this post as you made the insinuation black people are barely capable of opening a dictionary. Learn to read your own posts idiot #LOL
@ShayisWY Okay, I made the mistake of talking to you seriously in the posts I just wrote. But this one about who said what and black people and dictionaries demonstrates again that you are so ridiculously stupid I wonder if you're not just doing it on purpose to bug me. Anyway, it's obviously a waste of time to try to have a conversation with anyone like you. I am really not going to respond again. (Unless of course I decide otherwise.)
@greg5566 Speaking of idiocy - depsite the fact I have made SEVERAL comments detailing how people should not be forced into relationships against their will, you have repeatedly claimed I am against this and claimed I think people should not have to pay for health care. Either you are an idiot or a liar. Sad the only you can even come close to addressing me is through lying.
@ShayisWY I totally agree with you. BTW, I think it's time the government stopped paying for the education of children. That's just another tax-and-spend, wealth distribution program. If parents can't afford to send their children to private school, they should get of their lazy butts and teach the kids themselves instead of confiscating the dollars that I worked so hard to earn at gunpoint.
@greg5566 Look at you, dodging my questions and points - I have you all over the place to the point you have to fabricate BS quotes in a desperate attempt to make yourself look good.
@ShayisWY Dude, you just are not worth speaking to. One message you say "keep your racist/prejudice talk to a minimum" and the next post you say "what do black people have to do with anything?"
It is always fascinating but frustrating. You like all conservatives are incapable of maintaining a line of reasoning for longer than 500 characters. Of course if you _could_ you wouldn't be conservative so it is expected but still frustrating.
@greg5566 Ahh yes your idiocy that being Libertarian equates to being a conservative. Then you again you try to tell me that merely pooling resources for a common good equates one being socialist. Also by your definition and understanding of Libertarianism, Karl Marx himself is conservative. For you to equate these two as being one of the same shows how little you know of the systems in question.
@greg5566 ""It is always fascinating but frustrating. You like all conservatives..." You lied your ass off claiming I posted something that I didn't, misquoted academics, and not to mention your inability to answer my questions. The fact you believe an individual should not be permitted to make decisions regarding their health care and your inability to defend your believes speaks volumes about credibility and integrity . Funny how you try to lecture someone about reasoning given how many ...
@greg5566.... you have been caught lying. Then again coming from someone who has praised the Canadian health system, which people have wait up to 18 months for an MRI in some places..
So lets go through the question again. Why should it be illegal for individual to have the choice of whether he Gov, private insurance is right for them....or no insurance at all? How can you advocate stripping people of rights of self determination in regards to their own health is morale?
@ShayisWY Are you really asking that question seriously? It is a false choice. There is no such thing as "no insurance." A person with "no insurance" still goes to the emergency room for health care paid for by the rest of us. The question is not whether a person should be allowed to have "no insurance," rather WHO PAYS for the insurance: should one person (a libertarian) be allowed to refuse to pay her fair share and force the rest of us to subsidize her health care? (Answer: of course not)
@greg5566 It is not a false choice and there is a such thnng as no choice. Insurance is not a static concept. "emergency room for health care paid for by the rest of us." and that should not be. Forcing people against their will to pay for others services is imorale unless a person decides it is their choice. "allowed to refuse to pay her fair share and force the rest of us to subsidize her health care? " You missed my point all together, where did I state this. My point again is....
@greg5566 that people should have the right to decide if they want private, government, or no insurance at all. No Libertarian should be forced against their will to pay for another persons health care and no other person should be forced to pay for Libertarians health care unless one makes that decision to do so.
@ShayisWY If a libertarian TRULY wanted out of the system: no paying, and NO EMERGENCY ROOM CARE, FOREVER, then no one would care. But that decision would have to be to NEVER buy into the system--cost containment requires that young as well as old participate. If you wait until you are older to buy insurance then you are just forcing the rest of us to pay for your health care in a different way.
@greg5566 "If a libertarian TRULY wanted out of the .........NO EMERGENCY ROOM CARE". Again you puts words into my mouth. I did not say no emergency care. No you have it all wrong libertarians do not want it set up where they can receive medical care and not have to pay for it at all. Are you really this dumb? The only one small sect of Libertarians that believe this and those people are one who don't believe in the notion of even private property - Those who commonly follow Marx.
@ShayisWY As for public versus private, since that question has nothing whatsoever to do with ACA, why even ask it? Canada, as a people, decided to pool their resources and cover everybody. That is something they have the right to do. For them it's not a question of why should they, it's a question of why not if they want to?
As for us, we didn't do that, no one is even suggesting it. Romneycare is entirely private except for small portions of poor people.
@greg5566 Again you completley misreprsented what I said. People who want to have a government insurance should have every right to have that relationship, people who want private insurance should have a right to that relationship, people who do not want to have either should have that right. You have insinuated I said a Libertarian should have full right to health care and not pay a penny for it. This is a complete and fabricated lie again on your part. You really don't know your isms .
@greg5566 In regards to you detesting Libertarianism - Again please tell me why is it morally superior to not grant people the right to self-determine their health care needs? Why should people not have the right to decide if they want Government, Private, or no insurance at all?
"gov't contribution WHATSOEVER." Depends what type of Libertarian you are talking about? We are not against government, but do want very strict limitations on the ability to force people into involuntary schemes
Shaynis, you are trying to hard to "win" if you feel libertarianism is morally correct, follow it, its your prerogotive. But looking through your debate its obvious you have to back it with dubious logic or try to pretend it fixes everything, as if we all have free choice from the same reference point- not true.
If you think its morally superior fine, but it doesn't magically fix healthcare issues or give everyone the same choices. IT DOES NOT.
@ShayisWY "socialism is a hell of a lot more complex."
You don't have enough ability to stay on point to make this conversation interesting. When libertarians rail against socialism, by "socialism" they mean any gov't contribution WHATSOEVER. It's interesting, this is the second time today, in very different contexts, that I have come across an inability to keep straight what we are discussing. Of course socialism is more complex. . . .
@greg5566 Additionally private medical research facilities outperform public medical research facilities by quite a reasonable margin - hence create more innovations. See EMRC WHITE PAPER: Present Status and Future Strategy for Medical Research. "it is actually American R&D that makes Canadian HC great" Never said Canadian HC is great, I am just highlighting the dependence of the Canadian system on the US. It is also more reasons than this that I see the US as better.
@greg5566 Also I am not entirely in favour of the US system either. People shouldn't be forced against their free will into a relationship they do not want with a government or any other identity for that matter. The relationships I have should a result of my free choice. Canada doesn't permit me to make choices of who is best to provide my health care. Whether I want government insurance, private, or no insurance at all is my choice. The 13 health ministers in Canada who have no .......
@greg5566 Think again you retard, Search Parliament Library of Canada and then title: The Insured Mortgage Purchase Program Jean-François Nadeau International Affairs, Trade and Finance Division. 13 March 2009 or ... Department of Finance Canada, Government of Canada Responds to Global Financial Turmoil with Support for Canadian Credit Markets.
Two Gov of Canada agencies noting that Canada bailed out the banks up to 200 Billion dollars, over double the American one at 750 Billion per capita
@ShayisWY really? thats why every piece of my computer and every other electronic device in my house is stamped with the word China? where does Canada come into the picture at all? Canada has wood that China needs, end of story. Sorry to rain on your USA parade but the most brilliant American minds are imported from foreign countries.
@sentient23 Wow you are fucking dumb, but I will go along with you anyways. Name the Chinese inventor(s) who invented the PC, OS, modem, router.....also name the Chinese inventor of the internet and the foundation technology, the TCIP protocol? You insinuated America had nothing to do with these technologies and these are Chinese inventions. Put your money where your mouth is and prove China invented these technologies you liar.
@sentient23 "Canada has wood that China need" 1st China is is China's largest supplier of wood 2nd) Russia is China's largest foreign supplier of wood 3) It funny how you try to portray Canada as being more important to China than the US, when Canada has less trade per capita with China than the US - It is mainly American consumerism/ marketization that is responsible for China's rise.
"most brilliant American minds are imported from foreign countries" That's funny as according the....
@sentient23 .. US census bureau the most educated demographic in the US are American citizens themselves, whereas in Canada an Immigrant is far more likely to hold a university degree than a born Canadian. To Canada's credit we do have a good secondary school system, but our post secondary system is mediocre.
@MercenarySlick actually the US debt is almost 4 times higher relative to income! and the Canadian economy while dependent on the US is not nearly 95% reliant on the US the actual number is 73%. Don't use numbers when you don't know what your talking about. Maybe go take a Macroeconomics course or something.
@ssidom No. Canada's debt is higher than America's. US debt is only larger in dollar value, but just comparing debt in dollar value is retarded. You're supposed to compare the debt to GDP. When you do this Canada is in deeper debt, 82.5% in Canada compared to 53.5% in the US.
Also Canadians have higher household debt, and although more likely to be in debtt, they're less likely to get bankruptcy support.
@ssidom@ssidom You're the one who doesn't understand economics. Seriously you know nothing.
Trade is not the only cause of economic dependence on the US. 73% of Canada's trade is with the US, you're right, but nearly 95% of Canada's economic output every year can be attributed to the US. It's trade with the US, direct investment from the US, technology transfer, employment by US companies or their subsidiaries, and auxiliary industries that contribute to but don't participate in direct trade.
@ssidom Actually US debt is not 4 times greater than Canada PC...not even close. Furthermore Canadian debt does not include a single penny of debt held through intermediaries, crown corps, muni, provincial debt, among others. Not to mention that the Average Canadian individual is more in debt. The average Canadian province has more than 9 times the debt of the average american state. Not to mention that at the end of 2010, Canada had spent almost 200 Billion on bank bailouts, more than double ..
@ssidom the US bank bailout. 3 Canadian Government departments note this bailout. "actual number is 73%" This number is the percentage of Canadian exports USA consumes. You wrongfully assume 73% of exports consumed = 73% of the total economic output. You do not account for the indirect spending in Canada after these export transaction take place, nor do you consider the US companies operating in Canada that serve and cater to Canadians - This would not be calculated in export calculations, but.
Typical biased American retard. Probably thinks he is greater than everyone, when's he's just a big fat ass replying to everything. Until you get out of the 2 trillion debt, probably shouldn't talk shit about economy. Lol, exploit for profit? You don't realize that all America does is rely on Asia. Asia controls you betches. If they stop working for you,all your "top companies" die out. And your comparison is retarded. Without the worker,a skyscraper design is just a picture.
@YourMumMyCum are you not conforming to the psycological normality of your own media? VERY mature insults by the by. you might want to consider distancing yourself from mainstream patriotism. what if i told you the british were all apathetic drunks with stuck up superiority complexes and judging by your threats, murder impulses to boot. now we both know not all british people are that way.whether or not generalizing is wrong is irrelevant.the point is that you come off as ignorant
MrGunsrFun 1 day ago
@WARSHIPSATIN999 UMAD, bro?
MrGunsrFun 1 day ago
Biggest problem with American tourists: being completely contemptuous of other languages, they don't appreciate the difficulty of learning one. So when they meet someone who speaks English poorly they treat them like morons, talking loudly and slowly with lots of arm waving as if that'll help.
nateyj11 3 days ago
@nateyj11 is that a joke? i honestly can't tell, but it does sound kind of correct, not for all of us though
coropa1996 1 day ago
Will Clifford Banes ever be on this show?
flyersphan111 2 weeks ago
@flyersphan111 He was once, but he wore a perfect juliannna mckannis mask. I think it's the one that has to do with masturbation.
phdan123 1 week ago
@phdan123 LMAO
flyersphan111 1 week ago
Everybody should go planking in the Vatican.
cyanmanta 2 weeks ago
Translation "Mea Culpa" Means "My Fault".
AlexSpartan 3 weeks ago
Also, I'm Canadian, and I know that if a MP even tried to get a no government healthcare bill into parliament, only 1% of people would vote for him.
whyme943 4 weeks ago
I'm just worried what people think when Americans have Canadian flags sewn on their backpacks.
whyme943 4 weeks ago
LOL I wanna go travel with julianna
BrendanIsCool 1 month ago
the end the guys like go fuck yourself lol
dcacnc 2 months ago
Shouting angrily at locals all over Europe will not assist any non-English speaker to understand what you're saying in English ("WHERE IS THE MCDAAAHNALDS AT?") And another thing, nobody likes those giant texan hats. Or your fat arse wedged into small golf pants.
toranamunter 2 months ago
@toranamunter I live in Texas and I've never seen a single person in a "Giant Texan hat".
Herpa derpa, you're too retarded to differentiate stereotypes from reality.
SeaShellNecklaceBrah 2 months ago
"I rented a scooter in Rome and ran over a child. As I left I said sorry so he knows American's are polite...if he survived"...WTF!!! Stop and help you d-bag
HobbsO 2 months ago
@HobbsO you'd have to be as dumb as an American to not realise this is a comedy show.
toranamunter 2 months ago
@toranamunter I know, I watch it every so often. I was merely commenting on the strangely dark turn the comedy suddenly took.
HobbsO 2 months ago
FU USA FU USA CANADA ROCKS BITCHES HOW IS YOUR ECONOMY? KEEPING FIGHTING WARS BROKE AS BITCHES LMAO
bashie34 2 months ago
You can't just blame Obama for the foolish ways Americans tend to act. If they're acting like idiots anywhere, you should expect them to be treated negatively. If "Americans throw garbage onto the streets" OF COURSE THEY WILL BE HATED!!! So would Arabians, English, and anyone else.
Americans are so stupid anyway. All they every do is act like idiots and then complain about people not appreciating them acting like idiots.
DYLANDISASTERbz 4 months ago
@DYLANDISASTERbz HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Nikotehwolf 3 months ago
@DYLANDISASTERbz does someone not understand satires?
livialioness07 2 months ago
As a Canadian, I can honestly say, hating on Americans is considered socially normal. In fact, calling someone as "dumb as an American" is a pretty fucking severe insult.
Roflcopter4b 4 months ago 3
@Roflcopter4b And accurate.
GroinFaceGroin 4 months ago
outside of the usa, to hate the usa is in... ...and who can honestly blame any of these haters...???
TheYouwontgetit 4 months ago
This is so excellent satire of how ignorant and stupid some Americans are. I'm glad there are some smart people in the US though, who can spoof it like they do in The Onion. :)
oraichu 5 months ago
@oraichu I honestly think that Onion sums up how ignorant many Americans can be.
DYLANDISASTERbz 4 months ago
@DYLANDISASTERbz Well aren't you a little judgemental one. Not every single American is ignorant, however you appear to be, and I feel sorry for your parents. If you live believing every stereotype, you'll have everyone, even yourself. The Onion is 100% satirical, mocking what ordinary news companies do every day, not making statements about America.
MrBunnyWasHereFirst 3 months ago 3
@csclips420 First you make me pay for other people's education, then you make me pay for other people's retirement, then food, next it's healthcare, and pretty soon it's going to be Ferraris and champagne. Well, I'm not giving up the Ferrari that my father EARNED for me just so you can have one for free.
acr08807 6 months ago
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acr08807 6 months ago
1:47 PLANKING FAIL!
slayman123 6 months ago
The problem with stupid people in general is that they tend to be louder, and better reported than average or even intelligent people. What's a more entertaining news report: Guy sues taco bell for eating there and getting fat, or normal guy has lunch at taco bell?
KakanSetra 7 months ago 46
@KakanSetra Exactly, thus people think Americans are stupid because the stupidest people tend to be the most visible.
HiIeric117 6 months ago 2
@KakanSetra Retards sell more then good, calm, intelligent, nice people.
WhiteTiger225 6 months ago
@KakanSetra true true
ugasziz 6 months ago
@KakanSetra
* The problem with stupid people in general*
The problem in 'general' is that stupid people just happen to be American!
xD
PhatChick722 3 days ago
Its amazing even in Ireland probably the most pro US country in europe, we shiver at the though of the american cousins coming over to "get in touch with their heritage" SIXTH COUSINS!!! I mean jesus christ out of all the national ancestries why pick to visit us?!?!
Pielord09 7 months ago 3
She looked really pretty in that last photo.
tarantulady 8 months ago
1:45 is that arabic writing on the wall? In rome??
franciscobarril 9 months ago
66 people know that in soviet Russia, Bieber thinks that Ray Comfort has a point with the banan... wait... um... thumbs up if you agree!
PelicanGodOfJupiter 9 months ago 21
from all the things that have happend to cliffard banes, falling towards the earth at 100 miles an hour, fighting his nemesis atop a tower, sawing his fingers off, if cliffard banes were to come in he would look like the women that was mauled by that monkey.
undertyped1 9 months ago
....no medical training whatsoever, but yet feel they have the authority to determine my health care needs. Arguing that people should be forced against their free will into a UHC scheme with no choice to leave or modify is essentially arguing the Government has greater authority, will, and morality in making personal decisions for the individual than the individual him/herself. By you supporting UHC, you are asserting someone else's authority to dictate how I receive and fund my health care
ShayisWY 9 months ago
Is this a joke? Because if it isn't Americans are just incredibly stupid.
Arsewipeproductions 10 months ago
@Arsewipeproductions uhhhhh its real man, its the most legit news network in america
DJBuckCallYo 10 months ago
@DJBuckCallYo -_-
Arsewipeproductions 10 months ago
The Onion needs to do the news for now on XD
Jackspadeproductions 10 months ago
"Is this true, are we in for even more american setiment" Oh yes you are... I'll tell you what, if you continue to make up bullshit abot (i.e) the new stamp for William and Kate's wedding and that ther is line in the middle of the stamp and that Will wil urn more money that Kate because hey will seperate soon ad etc...
I seriously dont understand how you americans can make up so much bullshit about a fucking line in the middle of the stamp... And yes you are the only one that came up with that
parodyman1196 10 months ago
Are they really blaming a president for the worldwide anti-American sentiment?? The only people responsible for that are the Americans who behave like that! A change of behavior on their part would have more chances of solving the problem. How do you want Obama to solve it, if Americans don't change their own ways? But anyways I don't think it's the majority of Americans,but often it's the minority who creates an image for the whole group.
WorldOfSnakes 10 months ago
@s032656a
yea i got laid off of my job a lil while back.....ruff times.
RepnKillaCali 11 months ago
@s032656a
netflix is awesome lol
RepnKillaCali 11 months ago
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USA USA USA lol
RepnKillaCali 11 months ago
thanks to the onion i dont thiink every american is stupid
TheDravle 1 year ago 44
What is it that all these foreigners in "their" country don't get about Americans be better then them?
...(realizing the sarcasm in above statement might not be obvious)
Hopeful71 1 year ago
An American spat at me the other day, then he said : "It wasn't my fault that you attract saliva." Naturally, I forgave him because he has Obama for a president. :O
DoubleGlog 1 year ago
The Onion actually makes me love Americans
JDLK2005 1 year ago 5
@JDLK2005 exactly. I love Americans when I watch Onion news, south park, colbert report, jon stewart etc.
norelojon 1 year ago 4
Americans have the right to go to any country and demand they speak English. Then get drunk and vomit on national monuments.
jxsilicon9 1 year ago 70
@jxsilicon9 I suppose in England, that might even be patriotic.
Nukepositive 1 year ago
@jxsilicon9, what is this "English" you speak of? I'm American and I speak American damnit! =D
ZhangtheGreat 10 months ago
Never realized Juliana is hot. :D
mel577 1 year ago
I love the pictures courtesy of Julianna McKannis.
Sceptile17 1 year ago
mea culpa! = my fault! in Latin
356782FABq 1 year ago
Those were great vacation pics LMAO
WarRogers 1 year ago
1:48..Sleeping on the street with a bottle of wine in your hand...great stuff
psycho642 1 year ago
@GirlSpartan117 My question
"How is everyone equal?" was me fishing for answers not me making
a statement that everyone wasn't equal.
remyllebeau77 1 year ago
in all seroiousness we have the exact same problem here in the UK....
dwavenminer 1 year ago
"netflix acquired bankrupt blockbuster just to rub it in"... genius
beenn15 1 year ago 4
The Youtube Decrees of Commenting-
I. Thou shall not make retarded ass Bieber jokes
II. Thou shall not comment on the dislike bar
III. Thou shall not combine the first two decrees,EVER
IV. Thou shall stay on subject when commenting
V. Thou shall not beg like a bitch for thumbs-up
VI. Thou shall not insert soviet Russia jokes
VII. Thou shall spread the decrees, or face a lifetime of justin bieber spam comments and male enhancement ads and propaganda,
doughnutboy99 1 year ago 39
@doughnutboy99 In soviet russia The dislike bar comments on Justin Bieber
DrJReefer 1 year ago
@doughnutboy99 So Justin Bieber walks into a bar and says, "hey, you know what Joseph Stalin wrote in the comments section of a scientology video when Farraday Built his Cage? Thumbs up please."
PeterTheEvilBastard 1 year ago
@PeterTheEvilBastard Also, he clicked "dislike", thus proving soviet russians are retarded.
PeterTheEvilBastard 1 year ago
@doughnutboy99 Hallelujah, brother!
Greatkingrat88 1 year ago
@doughnutboy99 Viii. thou shalt not blaspheme the name Chuck Norris
therealmetroidmaniac 9 months ago
@doughnutboy99 what about: "Thou shalt not comment quotes from the above video"
ShaithMaster 9 months ago
@doughnutboy99 please no more chuck norris jokes either
bickybocky 7 months ago
this is suppose to be a comedy, all guys do is to turn it to a freaking politic. just have a laugh and move on. if wanna talk politic go to the tea party or something(not sure what democrats calls theirs)......
MaObi007 1 year ago
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go back to your fucking kitchen.
elisei00 1 year ago
I don't understand the reputation that the French are rude. In my life I've only met one rude Frenchman, although I've found many of them awkward.
Americans and English on the other hand are frequently looking down on the cultures they visit, and crack jokes about it.
DoctorWeeTodd 1 year ago
@DoctorWeeTodd thats because most americans origanally came from Britain
TheDaniel13761 1 year ago
@TheDaniel13761 What a generalized assumption.
Greatkingrat88 1 year ago
@DoctorWeeTodd The French are different. It's more subtle. Do you speak French? If you don't, then maybe you can't understand the subtelty of their attitudes. Also, if you don't speak French, maybe they don't show their true self to you. Of course, not all French are rude. But what I mean is that while the Ameircans and English might explicitly look down on cultures, or explicitly impose their belief that their views and their values are superior than others'...the French are more subtle with it
WorldOfSnakes 10 months ago
@DoctorWeeTodd I don't know how to explain it, but it's different. They have a way of being more courtuous, more polite in their arrogant manners. That's why it's subtle and that's why you may very well never notice it.
WorldOfSnakes 10 months ago
You know, I wish I never started Youtube sometimes... why? because I am a 11 year old girl who has learned all of the hate in the world... I can't go on even one with out thinking about how people hate me for my state, country, and race...
be careful what you say... because it could change someone's life...
Doggie446CP 1 year ago
@Doggie446CP
please understand that youtube is not the best representation of the world. Something about it encourages anger and generalization, and of course the people who spend the most time on it are the people who have no lives. it's vastly the angry nerdy jerks of the world who fill youtube's comments section.
JustThink00 1 year ago
Clifford Banes is always doing dumb shit.
p0tazzium 1 year ago
Clifford bane has the most interesting life
Maasuum 1 year ago 5
I wanna go travel with julianna ...that woman can party...
dangermous1968 1 year ago
lol im an american living aboad and i do get a lot of shit :P
J1a2s3o4n500 1 year ago
Clifford Banes
ps8hand 1 year ago
i blame bush
thompkinsbrian 1 year ago
Real News.
JinxOz 1 year ago
lol "sawed his fingers off building a birdhouse".
12986553 1 year ago
that child will remember that americans are polite for the rest of his life...
if he survives XD !!!!
chanconn 1 year ago 87
LOL!
carlswitzerfan 1 year ago
I happened to run over a child lol
mattsnow81 1 year ago
lmfao at the guy that ran over the child, so polite.. hahahaha
CLoLopez1 1 year ago 3
@CLoLopez1 I'd love to see the bloopers of the Onion... In the case of the guy you are talking about, I would never be able to say that with a straight face. :)
mattsnow81 1 year ago
Awww, I was so looking forward to hearing Clifford's insights on this matter. Hope you were planning on painting that birdhouse red, get well soon big C!
Turgor 1 year ago 55
@MercenarySlick
Guess what. Asia > USa. You talk a lot of shit about USa having "All the great companies". Guess what? Whoo works for all the shit. Asia. Who makes all the shit. Asia. 99% all the shit you have is "Made in Asia/China/India" Now get your weak shit out and take your fucking retarded stats with you.
N0wShutUp 1 year ago
@N0wShutUp How is Asia > USA?
Asia has 4 billion people but together only has half of the economic output of the US, when we only have 300 million.
The reason stuff is made in Asia is because they have cheap labor that American companies can exploit to maximize profits. All of the stuff is designed by American companies, and it's American companies that get the majority of the profit.
Your argument is dumb. It's like saying a construction worker is the mastermind behind a skyscraper.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
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N0wShutUp 1 year ago
@N0wShutUp Typical dumb ass Canadian. Can't accept that Canada is just a shitty imitation of the US. Talks about US debt even though Canada's debt is actually higher relative to income.
You say America relies on Asia (Asian relies on us too). And meanwhile Canada relies ENTIRELY on the US. 95% of Canada's economy depends directly on American trade and investment from Americans. If Canada didn't border the US, Canada would be a 3rd world country. And yet you don't realize how dumb you are...
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
@MercenarySlick america really doesnt have anything going for it. we are simply conveinent because it lowers shipping costs of raw materials if canada sells product directly to us. america is just that middle man that thinks he is some kind of bad ass that no one really wants to have to deal with.
sentient23 1 year ago
@sentient23 You do realize you claim the US is useless while 80% of the medical technology in Canadian health system is American. You are claiming the US is useless while on your American invented PC, OS, modem/router, Internet, while on a US website.
You could always use Canadian alternatives......oh that''s right....NONE exist. I rest my case
ShayisWY 10 months ago
@ShayisWY I love that everything you mentioned there was based on research funded by the American government. Shoot yourself in the foot much?
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 Actually it is not - It is not. The US accounts for the majority of medical R&D investments and furthermore the top 100 medical research companies are american. America did not invent the Internet? Then put your money where you mouth idiot and tell me who invented the internet - The ISOC which is not an AMERICAN says you are full of shit as you are.
You say that what I say regarding Canada having bailed out the banks more is a statistic from the US Government?........continued
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY Jesus, you have the reading comprehension of a 3-year-old.
Your argument is that Canadian healthcare (socialized) is not better than American because it is actually American R&D that makes Canadian HC great. My point is that all that R&D you are talking about COMES FROM FEDERALLY FUNDED UNIVERSITIES. SOCIALIZED.
(If you counter with something like pharma, it is HEAVILY subsidized by the US gov't--socialized.)
Your argument is against socialism, and it fails spectacularly.
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 Actually a large majority of medical research is funded mainly through private ventures. Furthermore an even larger majority is conducted via private/ profit institutions. Again US funds were through their research or grants to other groups comprise a small minority of medical research funding. See ^ OECD Health Data 2009 - Frequently Requested Data.and Moses, H et al. Financial Anatomy of Biomedical Research. JAMA 2005;294-1333-1342
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY If you are going to cite resources, you must include two things: the exact quote that you are referring to (the first citation says nothing about research funding), and a link to access the article.
greg5566 9 months ago
@ShayisWY Here is a fascinating line from the second cite: "The United States spent an estimated 5.6% of its total health expenditures on biomedical research, more than any other country, but less than 0.1% for health services research." I think that says it all.
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 Your quote doesn't prove or disprove anything and is ambiguous. Funny did not post the rest of it. It is quite apparent you do not understand what context it is in or what meant by "health services research" - You don't even under the context in comparison to other nations. By your excitement, you seem to think it is relation to discovery of diseases and/ or treatment of existing diseases. Hence insinuating US invests very little in these areas. ....continued
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY The world is more complex than a libertarian would have you believe. It is only by denying reality that it is even possible to hold conservative views. Logic/reality and conservatism are mutually exclusive. You can't seem to keep straight the difference between attacking someone's _conception_ of something, and discussing the thing itself. MY point is that the US is socialist. Government by definition is socialist--pooling resources. Anyway, I'm done. You're boring.
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 Libertarian does not equal being conservative and vice versa. Libertarian contrary to popular believe is not exclusively right as it shares many aspects. For you to imply other vice highlights you idiocy. You remind me of the dumb-asses who think Karl Marx advocated for a Socialist society, when in fact he saw a socialist like system as a way of collapsing the industrial complex and eventually all forms of governments. "Logic/reality" Explain how and why it is logical......
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 to force someone against their own will into a relationship with a Government or any other identity? Why should it be illegal for individual to have the choice of whether he Gov, private insurance is right for them....or no insurance at all? How can you advocate stripping people of rights of self determination in regards to their own health is morale? Perhaps you feel the Gov is greater than the people it is overseeing, but I don't
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 "socialist--pooling resources" No it is not as it not the necessarily the fact they are pooled, but how they are pooled. Also to what extent the collection and distribution is voluntary. Simple pooling resources for re-distribution does not constitute one being a socialist. The concept of collecting/ pooling fiscal resources for the state via progressive taxation is actually capitalist in origin and not socialist. Adam smith argued passionately for progress taxation
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 Health Serv. Research is a specialized research field that primarily looks at social aspects mainly how we get access to doctors and health services, how much it costs, among others. HSR has traditionally comprised a tiny tiny portion of all medical research funds in any given country.
Your assertion that most of American medical discoveries are gov/public and that have a government social program equates to socialism is simply false. Socialism is a hell of a lot more complex.
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY Uh, that is precisely what I know it means, which is the point of quoting the passage. The "US has great health care" argument is that we have the best equipment ("machines that go PING") which is a common idiotic libertarian fantasy view of the world. Which is a more "successful" system, one that gives every single citizen basic health care? Or one that gives the wealthiest amazing health care while 50 million go without it at all, and it is a nightmare for anyone else?
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 US does have a better health care system than Canada, though not perfect as people should have the right to have gov insurance, private, or no insurance at all. Canadians suffer and die unnecessary as result of UHC as confirmed by the Supreme Court of Canada.
"50 million go without it" What a load of shit on your part. Not only have you idiots say 50 million have no insurance you come on here and bullshit how they have no access to health care.
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 I have seen your posts on this here - Please tell me why if American health care is so terrible, then why do Americans out survive Canadians in most non-communicable diseases such as Cancer, heart issues, stroke, etc? Canada does have a system does mainly do not require up front payment, but is not free and we also pay for it through waits and lack of resources for Dr's to do their jobs.
As I have said the US system is not perfect, but I would rather be broke then DEAD.
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY Could you do me a favor, if possible? Could you try to speak English? Many of your messages are so garbled it is difficult to follow them.
Regarding Americans out-surviving Canadians, please be specific, with precise citations. Krugman writes a lot about this, how the statistics you use are the wrong statistics. (I.e., "life expectancy" is going up in the US: not true. It has gone up for the super-wealthy, the rest of us have stayed the same. That is just one example.)
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 Holly fuck idiot I did not mention any thing about life expectancy. and I am speaking about disease survivability Search World Health Organization > search "infobase" in their system as you can cross compare nations, diseases and of course the mortality incidence...etc. Americans out survive Canadians in almost all non-communicable diseases. BTW Krugman has already been proven wrong by many included Tyler Cowan. Krugman also regressive statistic modelling - not very reliable and high.
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY Man, you're literally too dumb to hold a conversation. Post number 1: "Americans out survive Canadians." Post number 2: "I did not mention any thing about life expectancy." No wonder you are struggling with this conversation, you are not even aware of what YOU are saying!
In fact, ________________________________I_______________________________ didn't mention life expectancy. I mentioned US out-surviving Canada, your precise words! The life-expectancy was a fucking EXAMPLE!
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 Wow are so fucking desperate that your only attempt to defeat me is that you have to resort to out right lying and fabricating quotes like "Americans out survive Canadians." I never said this as what I said was "Americans out survive Canadians in most non-communicable diseases" posted 21 hours prior to this. I did not mention the average life expectancy of the two nations in our conversation as there are other factors that come into play - This is a little narative you created
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 margin of error. "the rest of us have stayed the same" no that was not Krugmans point at all. His point was that life expectancy for societies poor has not increased as much as those who are wealthy. Not surprising given poor people are likely to participate in unhealthy habits. Regardless of which is the cause or effect, again I should be forced into a scheme against my will to support these people unless I decide to do so. People who are wealthy are so because they have silver spoon
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 like Canada, most high income earners are self made. These people are more wise than someone who is poor and it is only natural that these people make better life decisions. Our habits as a whole have gotten worse since 1980 and poor people believe it or not tend to over eat foods that are not good, less likely to exercise, more likely to be obese. As these habits have gotten worse since 1980 , it is only natural that life expectancy increases for poor people won't as much as a
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 those who make better life choices like not over-eating and stuffing their bodies with fat. I think it miracle that life expectancy has increased at all considering...,,
Also these poor people are often on Medicare/aid Since you are making the argument a government system of health care can deliver better quality of care, should these people not be living as long, if not longer than a person who is wealthy and does not qualify for Medicare/aid ?
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 "Could you do me a favor, if possible? Could you try to speak English" I appreciate it if you keep your racist/ prejudice talk to a min.
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY What, dictionaries have a well-known racial bias? That's the dumbest thing you've said yet.
I mean, "holly fuck." Fuck fuck holly fuck everybody want to holly fuck.
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 Seriously there is nothing in the world preventing you from going to m-w dot com and typing in "holly" to see whether that is the correct spelling. You could be black as night, that doesn't prevent you from looking up the words you type before you send a post. I'm not the racist one here, you are: you think apparently that some races are incapable of using a dictionary? Give me a break.
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5 Clearly you have issue with people who's 2nd language is english. Regardless, I have defeated you in each and every one of my points and you have completley side stepped my questions as to why should Government authority should supercede free will of the indvidual in terms of personal health care choices and why people shouldn't be permited the right to self determine their healh care needs.
"could be black as night" I am not black, but what do black people have to do with anything?
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 Sorry I find it telling and hilarious how are talking to yourself on this post.....LOL. ""what do black people have to do with anything?" again I ask what do black people have to do with anything regarding this post as you made the insinuation black people are barely capable of opening a dictionary. Learn to read your own posts idiot #LOL
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY Okay, I made the mistake of talking to you seriously in the posts I just wrote. But this one about who said what and black people and dictionaries demonstrates again that you are so ridiculously stupid I wonder if you're not just doing it on purpose to bug me. Anyway, it's obviously a waste of time to try to have a conversation with anyone like you. I am really not going to respond again. (Unless of course I decide otherwise.)
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 Speaking of idiocy - depsite the fact I have made SEVERAL comments detailing how people should not be forced into relationships against their will, you have repeatedly claimed I am against this and claimed I think people should not have to pay for health care. Either you are an idiot or a liar. Sad the only you can even come close to addressing me is through lying.
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY Do you know the term "free rider"? Do you know what it means?
greg5566 9 months ago
@ShayisWY I totally agree with you. BTW, I think it's time the government stopped paying for the education of children. That's just another tax-and-spend, wealth distribution program. If parents can't afford to send their children to private school, they should get of their lazy butts and teach the kids themselves instead of confiscating the dollars that I worked so hard to earn at gunpoint.
acr08807 8 months ago
@greg5566 Look at you, dodging my questions and points - I have you all over the place to the point you have to fabricate BS quotes in a desperate attempt to make yourself look good.
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY Dude, you just are not worth speaking to. One message you say "keep your racist/prejudice talk to a minimum" and the next post you say "what do black people have to do with anything?"
It is always fascinating but frustrating. You like all conservatives are incapable of maintaining a line of reasoning for longer than 500 characters. Of course if you _could_ you wouldn't be conservative so it is expected but still frustrating.
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 Ahh yes your idiocy that being Libertarian equates to being a conservative. Then you again you try to tell me that merely pooling resources for a common good equates one being socialist. Also by your definition and understanding of Libertarianism, Karl Marx himself is conservative. For you to equate these two as being one of the same shows how little you know of the systems in question.
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 ""It is always fascinating but frustrating. You like all conservatives..." You lied your ass off claiming I posted something that I didn't, misquoted academics, and not to mention your inability to answer my questions. The fact you believe an individual should not be permitted to make decisions regarding their health care and your inability to defend your believes speaks volumes about credibility and integrity . Funny how you try to lecture someone about reasoning given how many ...
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566.... you have been caught lying. Then again coming from someone who has praised the Canadian health system, which people have wait up to 18 months for an MRI in some places..
So lets go through the question again. Why should it be illegal for individual to have the choice of whether he Gov, private insurance is right for them....or no insurance at all? How can you advocate stripping people of rights of self determination in regards to their own health is morale?
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY Are you really asking that question seriously? It is a false choice. There is no such thing as "no insurance." A person with "no insurance" still goes to the emergency room for health care paid for by the rest of us. The question is not whether a person should be allowed to have "no insurance," rather WHO PAYS for the insurance: should one person (a libertarian) be allowed to refuse to pay her fair share and force the rest of us to subsidize her health care? (Answer: of course not)
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 It is not a false choice and there is a such thnng as no choice. Insurance is not a static concept. "emergency room for health care paid for by the rest of us." and that should not be. Forcing people against their will to pay for others services is imorale unless a person decides it is their choice. "allowed to refuse to pay her fair share and force the rest of us to subsidize her health care? " You missed my point all together, where did I state this. My point again is....
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 that people should have the right to decide if they want private, government, or no insurance at all. No Libertarian should be forced against their will to pay for another persons health care and no other person should be forced to pay for Libertarians health care unless one makes that decision to do so.
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY If a libertarian TRULY wanted out of the system: no paying, and NO EMERGENCY ROOM CARE, FOREVER, then no one would care. But that decision would have to be to NEVER buy into the system--cost containment requires that young as well as old participate. If you wait until you are older to buy insurance then you are just forcing the rest of us to pay for your health care in a different way.
As for public versus private: (cont'd)
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 "If a libertarian TRULY wanted out of the .........NO EMERGENCY ROOM CARE". Again you puts words into my mouth. I did not say no emergency care. No you have it all wrong libertarians do not want it set up where they can receive medical care and not have to pay for it at all. Are you really this dumb? The only one small sect of Libertarians that believe this and those people are one who don't believe in the notion of even private property - Those who commonly follow Marx.
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY As for public versus private, since that question has nothing whatsoever to do with ACA, why even ask it? Canada, as a people, decided to pool their resources and cover everybody. That is something they have the right to do. For them it's not a question of why should they, it's a question of why not if they want to?
As for us, we didn't do that, no one is even suggesting it. Romneycare is entirely private except for small portions of poor people.
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 Again you completley misreprsented what I said. People who want to have a government insurance should have every right to have that relationship, people who want private insurance should have a right to that relationship, people who do not want to have either should have that right. You have insinuated I said a Libertarian should have full right to health care and not pay a penny for it. This is a complete and fabricated lie again on your part. You really don't know your isms .
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 In regards to you detesting Libertarianism - Again please tell me why is it morally superior to not grant people the right to self-determine their health care needs? Why should people not have the right to decide if they want Government, Private, or no insurance at all?
"gov't contribution WHATSOEVER." Depends what type of Libertarian you are talking about? We are not against government, but do want very strict limitations on the ability to force people into involuntary schemes
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 Hi Gregg/Shayn,
Shaynis, you are trying to hard to "win" if you feel libertarianism is morally correct, follow it, its your prerogotive. But looking through your debate its obvious you have to back it with dubious logic or try to pretend it fixes everything, as if we all have free choice from the same reference point- not true.
If you think its morally superior fine, but it doesn't magically fix healthcare issues or give everyone the same choices. IT DOES NOT.
dorianleakey 7 months ago
@ShayisWY "socialism is a hell of a lot more complex."
You don't have enough ability to stay on point to make this conversation interesting. When libertarians rail against socialism, by "socialism" they mean any gov't contribution WHATSOEVER. It's interesting, this is the second time today, in very different contexts, that I have come across an inability to keep straight what we are discussing. Of course socialism is more complex. . . .
greg5566 9 months ago
@greg5566 Additionally private medical research facilities outperform public medical research facilities by quite a reasonable margin - hence create more innovations. See EMRC WHITE PAPER: Present Status and Future Strategy for Medical Research. "it is actually American R&D that makes Canadian HC great" Never said Canadian HC is great, I am just highlighting the dependence of the Canadian system on the US. It is also more reasons than this that I see the US as better.
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 Also I am not entirely in favour of the US system either. People shouldn't be forced against their free will into a relationship they do not want with a government or any other identity for that matter. The relationships I have should a result of my free choice. Canada doesn't permit me to make choices of who is best to provide my health care. Whether I want government insurance, private, or no insurance at all is my choice. The 13 health ministers in Canada who have no .......
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@greg5566 Think again you retard, Search Parliament Library of Canada and then title: The Insured Mortgage Purchase Program Jean-François Nadeau International Affairs, Trade and Finance Division. 13 March 2009 or ... Department of Finance Canada, Government of Canada Responds to Global Financial Turmoil with Support for Canadian Credit Markets.
Two Gov of Canada agencies noting that Canada bailed out the banks up to 200 Billion dollars, over double the American one at 750 Billion per capita
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@ShayisWY really? thats why every piece of my computer and every other electronic device in my house is stamped with the word China? where does Canada come into the picture at all? Canada has wood that China needs, end of story. Sorry to rain on your USA parade but the most brilliant American minds are imported from foreign countries.
sentient23 9 months ago
@sentient23 Wow you are fucking dumb, but I will go along with you anyways. Name the Chinese inventor(s) who invented the PC, OS, modem, router.....also name the Chinese inventor of the internet and the foundation technology, the TCIP protocol? You insinuated America had nothing to do with these technologies and these are Chinese inventions. Put your money where your mouth is and prove China invented these technologies you liar.
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@sentient23 "Canada has wood that China need" 1st China is is China's largest supplier of wood 2nd) Russia is China's largest foreign supplier of wood 3) It funny how you try to portray Canada as being more important to China than the US, when Canada has less trade per capita with China than the US - It is mainly American consumerism/ marketization that is responsible for China's rise.
"most brilliant American minds are imported from foreign countries" That's funny as according the....
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@sentient23 .. US census bureau the most educated demographic in the US are American citizens themselves, whereas in Canada an Immigrant is far more likely to hold a university degree than a born Canadian. To Canada's credit we do have a good secondary school system, but our post secondary system is mediocre.
ShayisWY 9 months ago
@MercenarySlick actually the US debt is almost 4 times higher relative to income! and the Canadian economy while dependent on the US is not nearly 95% reliant on the US the actual number is 73%. Don't use numbers when you don't know what your talking about. Maybe go take a Macroeconomics course or something.
ssidom 1 year ago
@ssidom No. Canada's debt is higher than America's. US debt is only larger in dollar value, but just comparing debt in dollar value is retarded. You're supposed to compare the debt to GDP. When you do this Canada is in deeper debt, 82.5% in Canada compared to 53.5% in the US.
Also Canadians have higher household debt, and although more likely to be in debtt, they're less likely to get bankruptcy support.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
@MercenarySlick LWFMAOWFMWAFOA
canadians have less national debt
they are also less likely to die
sealhunta 1 year ago
@ssidom @ssidom You're the one who doesn't understand economics. Seriously you know nothing.
Trade is not the only cause of economic dependence on the US. 73% of Canada's trade is with the US, you're right, but nearly 95% of Canada's economic output every year can be attributed to the US. It's trade with the US, direct investment from the US, technology transfer, employment by US companies or their subsidiaries, and auxiliary industries that contribute to but don't participate in direct trade.
MercenarySlick 1 year ago
@ssidom Actually US debt is not 4 times greater than Canada PC...not even close. Furthermore Canadian debt does not include a single penny of debt held through intermediaries, crown corps, muni, provincial debt, among others. Not to mention that the Average Canadian individual is more in debt. The average Canadian province has more than 9 times the debt of the average american state. Not to mention that at the end of 2010, Canada had spent almost 200 Billion on bank bailouts, more than double ..
ShayisWY 10 months ago
@ssidom the US bank bailout. 3 Canadian Government departments note this bailout. "actual number is 73%" This number is the percentage of Canadian exports USA consumes. You wrongfully assume 73% of exports consumed = 73% of the total economic output. You do not account for the indirect spending in Canada after these export transaction take place, nor do you consider the US companies operating in Canada that serve and cater to Canadians - This would not be calculated in export calculations, but.
ShayisWY 10 months ago
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@MercenarySlick
Typical biased American retard. Probably thinks he is greater than everyone, when's he's just a big fat ass replying to everything. Until you get out of the 2 trillion debt, probably shouldn't talk shit about economy. Lol, exploit for profit? You don't realize that all America does is rely on Asia. Asia controls you betches. If they stop working for you,all your "top companies" die out. And your comparison is retarded. Without the worker,a skyscraper design is just a picture.
N0wShutUp 1 year ago