obama lied to Harry Reid, why wouldn't he lie to us?
He also lied to his VP regarding the Catholic Church, causing another embarrassing flap with Biden claiming no Dems won't attack them while obama says 'yes, and we're not budging'..
Meanwhile, the 3 of them face a radical islam threat to their birth religion/ethnicity worldwide, one deciding to join rather than fight..but they are still obsessed with USA Christians.
Trijicon is a private business they are free to do as they please on their product. It is freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. It is letters on aluminum not like we are baptizing people against their will.
well i'm an atheist and i dont give a damn about it, the bible is just a book, i planing on getting an ACOG and i don't care if is in to that jesus thing, i fell more outrageous because the U.S.A is have been in war for far to long, and have killed a lot of inocents, just look fahrenheit 9/11 to see some U.S war crimes, inocent children murder from the sky all beacause a war for oil?? sorry but your goverment is in some deep shit...
They need to take their heads out of their asses and realize what happens in a war. The least of their concerns should be a few characters on a rifle optic.
Military wont do shit about it. and they shouldnt trijicon mind as well be a monopoly. they dominate the acog industry. they dont have to change anything
Enough with this PC bullshit!! If they have Christian beliefs, like what this nation was founded on who gives a shit?? Like their god is all "peace living". Kill em all!!
Why the hell are people getting so worked up over this? These are personal craftsman's marks on gun sights, they do not magically transform or bless them into "Jesus Rifles", and they do not show any sort of bias on the military's part.
This country was founded on Christian morals...... The first settlers of America were Puritans.... Say what you want, but America is indeed a nation revolved around Christianity in a way. But we do have freedom of religion, so no one is making you be a Christian.
@sisk61 "This country was founded on Christian morals", drop this bullshit, please. The US was founded on human decency. Quit being a faggot and claiming morality as being exclusively religious. Do you fucking homework and read up on just how many of the founding fathers were Diests and Atheists.
@Jallandhara Did I say the founding fathers were all Christians? no? Benjamin Franklin was definitely not a Christian, but he found the bible to be a great source of moral practices. how bout you do your homework buddy. Honestly. You have the right to your own opinion no matter how wrong and liberal it may be. Hey! that comes from the Bible! I could go on. God bless America!
@Jallandhara Oh, and i almost forgot. Take a look at the Paris Peace Treaty of 1783. The Treaty officially Ended the Revolution and granted the US independence from Britain. Read the preamble.... "In the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity." Hmmmm, I wonder who that refers to?
@thetruthrises No argument brother, just stirring the pot. I think it's a bit silly that people are offended though. Trijicon is a christian based company, and we use their sights...it doesnt mean that we have the same beliefs...oh well..
Give me a break its just numbers... I'm no christian but talk about being butthurt man.. Even though. Its crazy that someone would put codes on the riflesights.
@wolfcrken No, it's not a Christian nation. That is just a nationalistic dream that you folks need to wake up from. Adapt or die. That is the way of nature, and has also been the way of religions if you know your history.
@thetruthrises NO we have adapted from being a christian nation I stand corrected on that.One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.Thats history too I guess? The fact were not all christian in the country might just be the problem!
@wolfcrken The words "under God" were added to the pledge in 1952, so cannot by any stretch be claimed as a "founding" statement of intent. The fact that not everyone in this country is Christian is one of the only things preventing pseudo-religious tyranny.. Wake up and smell the BS.
Out of the billions the interviewed only 3 didn't like it....i think that those verses are amazing and uplifting, when is America gonna stop being everyone bitch and stand up
We ARE NOT equipping Iraqis with M-16's or AK-47's with Trijicon sights, thats a big lie!!!
Just look at the pictures and videos of Iraqi forces, they are not using US made guns with US made sights.
Just because they found a few idiots who say stupid things about Muslims, doesnt mean that a significant amount of soldiers or officers support that stuff. I can spend weeks posting hate speech and lies from the left, but that doesnt mean all of them believe that stuff.
Nobody would've even noticed these little tiny unclear abbreviations on the bottom sides of these sights if it wasnt pointed out to them. Not only that, but they dont say anything like "Jesus will prevail over Muhammed".
Of course, the Left will blow this out of proportion and use it against Christians, who they hate. If US Muslim soldiers engraved Islamic verses on their guns, the Left would have no problem with it!
We ARE NOT training Iraqis on M-16's with Trijicon sights. Lie!
haha Jesus rifle never heard that one before. the bible versus are a trijicon business thing. Trijicon being a private company can do as they wish, they happen to make quality scopes, detestably the best, so these people are essentially saying they don't want the soldiers to have the best equipment because its not politically correct. Honestly I think this program makes the thing overblown.
It is a war created & sustained by defense contractor lobbyists first. A cultural war of American values (NOT necessarily Christian) Vs The values of strict Islamists second.
This same thing has being going on for centuries. I just wish people could understand that not everyone shares their beliefs. And we wonder why all these countries hate us.
Trijicon and the scopes they make are not just for the military. They are for civilians as well. The military and the government can not tell them what they can or can not put on them. That is taking away their 1st Amendment right which over rules the military's 1st General Order. If the military doesn't like the fact that the put bible verses on the scopes then they are more than welcome to end the contract, recall all trijicon scopes and find some other company to supply the same quality.
So having a combination of letters/numbers engraved on your weapon is 'soliciting' their beliefs? What about if they have a serial number on their weapon which coincides with the abbreviations of a biblical verse (I'm sure there are tons like that). Secondly, how exactly are they 'soliciting'? Are the enemy soldiers and citizens close enough to read the tiny engraving on a small part of one our soldier's rifle? Just another attempt to strip the mentioning of 'God' off of anything and everything.
Who gives a fuck about what our troops inscribe on our gear its war who cares shits different over there than over there so why do we care as long as our troops are doin there job I could care less about what the scope has inscribed on it........fuckin liberals
So its a problem that we outfit soldiers with guns scopes with biblical codes but yet its ok for islamic militants to kill our soldiers and on top of our soldiers dead bodies they yell allah allah? give me a break.
@cb2k761 Praising your particular version of "Allah" for having vanquished your enemies on your own soil is nothing compared to destroying entire populations and decimating entire landscapes in the name of the Christian God. When whites first invaded the Americas they gave thanks to and praised "God" for destroying the Natives here, my ancestors. Get a little historical perspective, imbecile.
Actually, I am neither a Christian, a Muslim, or an American Indian, and I realize that wars have been fought in the name of religion, but for you to pretend that it ONLY happens in the name of Christianity is nonsense. This is the typical Left-wing bigotry. Muslims actually conquered huge swathes of Europe, Asia, Africa and the Middle East, then forced their religion on people there. American Indians conquered each other for millenia before we came....
@HighlanderNorth1 Whatever you think I am pretending to is in your perception, not my presentation. Every major religion is guilty of perpetuating and condoning, even blessing and inciting war. Yes, there were mercenary "red" men here before the invaders, and I have no illusion that natives were less warlike. The mentality has not changed in the greedy and needy, but the degree of power in their hands, has. Gross inequality of arms is what has changed. Rocks vs missiles.
@thetruthrises Need a little historical perspective yourself? you claim to have ancestory from native Americans, they fought amoungst each other, savagely I might add, for things far less than, in the name of "supreme being"(god, allah,ect) and lets get one thing straight no matter the religion its all based upon moral principles of right and wrong. Look throughout the evolution of every creature on this planet, fighting is inherent in nature, like it or not, right or wrong, its there quit cryn
@cb2k761 At what point has anyone said that's ok? Never.
If you're going to make a point, at least base it on something substantial. The problem with the quotes is that it assumes everyone who uses them are Christian. The problem with deploying those scopes into a Muslim country is that it justifies their claim that this is a "holy war".
@PocketDrummer Finally someone who can grasp the gist of the problem without interjecting a batch of personal baggage and bullsh1t into what should be a straightforward logical argument about law and policy. Congratulations!
@daveblandston6 This was news years ago. It's still interesting to see how heated people get about it rather than googling it to find out that it is no longer a "public controversy".
@duanescot There are valid points on both sides of the argument, and yes, it was very controversial and obviously still is even though it is no longer a real issue.
@thetruthrises bizarre, of all the things in the world to get upset about, tiny letters on a gun scope? Different strokes for different folks I guess, BTW, I just checked my two trijicon products, it does appear that they have stopped placing these stampings on their scopes, I never would of known either way
@CentralSCarolina I agree but ya know this issue was made into a big media flap because the media admits to a liberal bias, and it is the habit of liberals to always rip on America, on our religious heritage, and on those who express their faith (in this case, Trijicon, who's always made these sights with the scripture on them, from day 1). I have an intense dislike of liberals because they always take sides with our nation's enemies, and against the values that the rest of us hold dear.
Back in the day, the 1st Americans were Christians escaping religious persecution. Back in those days, women couldn't vote, people owned slaves, and only property owners could vote.
However, things have changed in this country in 200 years, and new non-Christian immigrants have changed the religious background of the USA. Plus, endorsement of Christianity on military equipment makes this country look like a bunch of bible-thumping bullies.
@Mattypphillip Must be pretty cool to be able to read "God's" "mind" and know what "God" "thinks". LMAO! That the military decided to ignore it's own general order against proselytizing and reverse it's decision EVEN after Trijicon agreed to remove the inscription is what SAYS IT ALL. It's a Christian Zionist "Holy War" against the middle east for fun and profit. Globalist expansionism, once called "Imperialism" now called "Peacekeeping". What a sad joke on the world.
@Mattypphillip The $600M contract explains why Trijicon agreed to remove the sites when this first became an issue.. Profits come before anything, including respect for life itself.
Don't get your knickers in a twist. The Pentagon reversed it's decision, and decided to continue contravening it's own "general rule" and allow the sights to go into battle with the scripture references intact. Soldiers of other religions or with no religion just have to take it like good soldiers. Truth be told, I'm sure most soldiers could care less. Those who know God don't need inscriptions, and those who don't probably don't give a damn one way or the other.
@thetruthrises - best answer I've seen, and the best comment you've made here. Thanks. As I understand it, the company's devout founder made the inclusion of scripture on their products a legally binding requirement at the time the firm was incorporated, and even after his passing that requirement remains because apparently the corporation is somehow held in trust or whatever, in perpetuity, as intended by the founder. He really wanted to make sure his company remained in Christian hands.
This is quite possibly the dumbest argument I have ever heard. Most of the soldiers using those weapons are christians does that mean they can no longer participate in the war? RETARDED!
It makes me sad so many people have taken up an iron fist over this...afterall many men and women in combat cling to their faith in times of great struggle and darkness. I hope that this want Trijicons attempt at proselyting, instead I hope it was an opportunity to comfort some young dying soldier fighting for the Democracy he believes in. In the same way Christians seek comfort in God, Muslims also seek Allah for comfort.
If more Christians acted Biblically the world would not hate them so.
@stoehnercd Technically it fits the definition of proseletyzing. The military has a LONG STANDING general rule against this. If they allow it for Christians, they must allow it for EVERYONE.
people are this angry over HIDDEN biblical references?? its not shoving any views down any ones throats, youd have to do research to know its a biblical reference to begin with....
Does everyone forget that this is an American company, where they have the right to practice/preach whatever religion they want, in whatever form of speech they want protected under the 1st ammendment? They are not only a supplier to the US military but also its citizens. Asking a company to recall these sights and remove the inscription and seise production of new sights with inscription not only would be counterproductive to the company, but would violate their most basic God given rights
They are not free when they're subsidized by our tax dollars. They're free to sell them to private customers. Not to the government, and not paid with my money.
Soo take the biblical means off of the ones that are being sent to Iraq and Afghanistan and those bibles maybe for Muslims who want to covert to christianity or their is locals that live in that region and are Christian and need the bibles
I'm a firearms owner. I'd rather not have this crap on my optic. I'm an adult, I don't have a need for fairy tales. Guess I'll just buy an Elcan SpecterDR for my 7.62x51mm calibrated rifle optic.
@xxDanielTM93xx Thank you for infusing an intelligent comment into this pit of Bible-thumping, trigger-happy boneheads. There is nothing "Holy" about war. Period. It is the worst of human endeavor.
I agree. I think anyone should be able to be own any weapon he wants, up to and including an M1A2 Abrams tank or an F-16. But weapons are for defense only. One can never morally initiate aggression. I am against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Putting quotes about Jesus on those scopes used to kill people overseas who never posed a direct threat is blasphemy.
@SansAuthoritas Well said. God and Government make bad bedfellows. The military is in the business of making soldiers and civilians feel OK about killing people for political purposes. Insinuating religion into the mix is a perversion and rejection of the teachings of Christ and turns what should be an amoral entity, government, into an immoral entity, insulting the very religion under whose banner they march to war. Sick and twisted. Wars were once battles. Now they are selective assassination.
Well said in turn, friend. While I agree with your sentiment on the change in war (at least when it comes to the United State (not a typo) that attacks only much weaker militaries,) I think those attacks are too broad and slaughterous of civilians to earn the term "selective."
@thetruthrises just be happy there is war, revelations say the anti christ will bring true world peace before he shows his true form. And i say "true" because that includes places like Isreal, Africa, Mexico, etc. which would be pretty hard to bring true peace in haha. i dont like war but its the sorry truth (at least if ur christian)
i like the verses. theyre fitting anyways i mean the trijicon sights use tritium, so it makes sense that you will never "walk in darkness" dosnt it? the bible is probably the most universal way possible to express the sight's capability
@tmccarthysjc I would say science would be a more universal way of expressing the sight's capability than a single religion.
Christians just WANT the Bible to be universal. There will never be a single religion as long as people cling to antiquated, dysfunctional ideas about how humans "should" live their lives.
Shut up and eat a d**k. Its not the gov't place to tell a buissness how to run thier buissness or how to make thier product. Trijicon is not forcing anyone of any religion to read the verses or the bible. If the gov't or other groups are discusted by this then they shouldn't renew the contract that they have with Trijicon. However don't tell a company what it can or cannot do. Find someone else who will bend over and take it up the a**
@MonkeyMedic83 Congratulations on missing the entire point. As I have repeatedly mentioned below, the Pentagon has reversed their previous decision to comply with their own general order against the distribution of religious propaganda. Trijicon was never "told" what to do, and non-Xians have a right to propaganda-free equipment. The military has now gone back to ignoring their own general order, and trigger-happy Bible thumping soldiers can rejoice while they carry on their Xian Holy war.
Don't tell them what they can do? Pardon me? They were using MY money to put those quotes on the scopes. If it's a private company? Go for it! More power to them! But if they're using my money to make those scopes, hell no.
As a Christian, I believe this should not be done. But who do the government think they are? They name nuclear missiles "Peacemaker", they name Military helicopters after Indian tribes "Apache" & "Sioux"
@shadowgovernment3000 Good points. The difference is, it is specifically against military general orders, or "laws", to allow religious material to be distributed, and it obviously is not right to only provide propaganda from one religion above others. It's a simple argument to me, beyond the psychological impact on the so-called "enemy". Bible thumpers should be happy to know that the Pentagon reversed their decision on this, and decided to continue to defy their own general order against it.
@shadowgovernment3000 It was the Peacekeeper. It's really not a bad name for a nuclear deliver system as they're meant to deter war, not be used. That said, the Peacekeeper was an excellent first strike weapon, so maybe not.
jesus do people really give a shit that much the fact that a cereal number just so happens to have a verse number on it i mean does that effect the optic in any way fucking idiots
@goldeneye0019 Way to not see the big picture, dude. But that isn't surprising since you don't know the difference between effect and affect or the difference between cereal (that stuff you eat for dinner in your Mom's basement) and serial, which means a sequence, as in numerical sequence as in serial number. Furthermore, it doesn't "just so happen" to have a "verse number" on it, the company placed it there intentionally, and the brass allowed it with a wink, until they were caught.
@goldeneye0019 Serial number. Cereal is something you eat for breakfast. Yes, people do care. While it wouldn't stop me from buying an ACOG, it makes the US military and the US in general look bad. Hopefully NASA paints Ecclesiastes 1:5 on the next solar observation space craft they launch, because that would be hilarious.
if trijicon makes a product with these inscriptions befor the got a contract with the US military they they should be allowed to keep then that way,afterall isnt this a "holy war" according to the terrorists
If you've ever read any thing about Sabotage, then you know that not all Sabotage is a physical attack.
Demoralizing, confusing, and creating disorder among your enemy's and there government can cause wasted time, resources, personel, etcetera.
Now it seems to me that attacking our weapons, our weapons makers, our faith and the soldiers that use them falls into the category of physiological Sabotage.
@mmayhue01 This isn't going to demoralize one single soldier. They're not going to think of the political ramifications of their optic's serial number when they glass some potential threat in Afghanistan. If a soldier's fighting spirit could be compromised by so little then he is definitely in the wrong line of work.
Let's look at it this way... What about freedom of speech? It's funny how people ignore what this country was truly founded on. The "government" should have no control or regulation on a companie's foundational beliefs or practices. If you don't like it then don't purchase it with your "In God We Trust" printed dollars.
@JonElliott888 There is no "In God We Trust" on credit cards or electronic transfers. The Bible is NOT the definitive guide to knowing God. We have freedom of religion as well as freedom FROM religion, and it is illegal to spread religious propaganda in the military. Sadly, the Pentagon has bowed to the Bible thumpers and reversed theirr decision, allowing the references to remain, in direct contradiction to their own general order which has been in place for many decades. Hypocrisy rules!
"dear jesus make my rifle shoot straight and true". lol wow. how ignorant, can i please get a trijicon that says evolution, 666, atheist, or judas on it? Christians can't grasp the concept of tolerance and freedom. trijicon should lose they're military contract.
ITS A SIGHT ON A FREAKING GUN CHILLLLLLLL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TRIJICON IS JUST DOING THEIR JOB IT DOESTN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO FREAK OUT ABOUT A BIBLE REFERENCE. ALSO WE ALOW MUSLIMS TO LIVE IN OUR COUNTY SO JUST CHIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLL
@goatman3780 lol your an idiot...."alow muslims to live in our country"....i can't even begin to point out the flaws in your statement. *puts face in palm and shakes head*.....keep religion out of government.
@goatman3780 Unless you are Native American maybe you should go back where you came from. This was never your country, unless you consider stolen property to be owned by the thief.
The irony is that if both sides didn't have old books telling them that their religion is the only one that counts, this war wouldn't exist. Unless we grow through this damn religion nonsense, we're going to kill ourselves off fighting over it... the ultimate irony.
@kiminicooper1 That's what I've been thinking lately, only not as smart as what you wrote. I was just thinking that if religion didn't exist, wars like this wouldn't happen.
War has seldom actually been about religion. War is all about land, profits, and power. In other words, Mammon: the contradiction of the Creator, the God of Life. People love to couch the purpose in their war in "religious" clothing to appeal to the masses, if it works toward their purposes.
@kiminicooper1 - You have to ask yourself who started that fight. BTW, don't think that this fight can be ended by standing down. The hadji's are 'true believers' in a religion that kills anyone who doesn't adhere to their orthodoxy, and that means waging war and terror on all who do not convert. They will not change, haven't for over 1500 years & if it were in their power they'd nuke America. Meanwhile, libtards whine about rifle scopes & try to cut our balls off like they did during Vietnam.
I was taught that America provided freedom to the people. If Trijicon wanted to put biblical verses on their optics, that's their business and if potential customers don't like that, they should either get over it or go to a different company if it bothers them THAT much. Terrorists aren't fighting our soldiers because of a biblical reference that's 2mm large on their optic. Hell, the twin towers didn't have a quote from the bible on a window on 9/11 did they? People are too easily offended now.
@shadonite no it's just people like you are too ignorant this day in age.it's one thing if your a commercial business that is selling to the public and choose to market any type of religious media on your product. but it's another thing when its on a issued federal piece of property. this type of thing will be the down fall of this country.people like you.this is not a holy war. Christianity is not the only religion in the world. with this type of thinking it makes you no different than them
@coheedatreyu. I don't understand your hostility. You're right, this isn't a religious war and having those inscriptions doesn't make it one. I'm not claiming Christianity is supreme, I'm saying that if they had Buddhist or any other marking, I'd get over it and just use the optic. And what about America's currency and pledge? In God we trust? One nation under God? I just learned that it's illegal to "promote" religious text throughout the military which makes this video more understandable.
@shadonite let me explain my hostility then. i'm a fresh soldier about to leave for basic in 2 weeks. this angers me because trijicon, in such a sneaky manner, like the angel of death in exodus sneaking into houses to kill a child which i think is just obscene if you believe it. places this christian paraphernalia on a soldiers rifle without his permission. that tells me that they do not respect all soldier but only christian soldiers. what about alot of our founding fathers? atheists.
@coheedatreyu Well I wish you the best on your tour out there, I really do. I respect all soldiers who fight for my ability to say whatever I want, even if they are like you and call me the bane of America and a terrorist. And Trijicon started this tradition because their founder was Christian, not because they hate non-christian troops. And the founding fathers has nothing to do with what I was trying to get to. Why must these markings be removed if they're still everywhere back home?
@shadonite you must think more broad. that's the problems christians have. you think your ideas and beliefs are truth and everyone else is just wrong. but you don't have a proof of you being right. they must be removed because it is a issued military item. its unlawful. i don't see how this doesn't make sense to you. trijicon may do whatever they want with they're commercial sales but military items should have no reference to any idea of religion, they have no right.
Good comment Jerryboy!
puertoroc253 2 days ago
when they say that the arabs are training on them they wouldn't even know wtf the letters mean they would thinks its a serial number or something
hotscotty10 5 days ago
Wow they really put this on the news
CMG829 5 days ago
obama lied to Harry Reid, why wouldn't he lie to us?
He also lied to his VP regarding the Catholic Church, causing another embarrassing flap with Biden claiming no Dems won't attack them while obama says 'yes, and we're not budging'..
iamtheomega 1 week ago
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"Mikey" Weinstein: busy destroying the Christian - Judaism bond much like Oliver Stone & son Sean, converting to islam in iran.
Mikey is a vicious, paranoid, anti-Christian hater, much like the ADL's Mark Pitcavage:
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Meanwhile, the 3 of them face a radical islam threat to their birth religion/ethnicity worldwide, one deciding to join rather than fight..but they are still obsessed with USA Christians.
iamtheomega 1 week ago
Trijicon is a private business they are free to do as they please on their product. It is freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. It is letters on aluminum not like we are baptizing people against their will.
jerryboy219 1 week ago
COOL
redhotchilininja 1 week ago
SOOTCH
101UNREALTOURNAMENT 1 week ago
well i'm an atheist and i dont give a damn about it, the bible is just a book, i planing on getting an ACOG and i don't care if is in to that jesus thing, i fell more outrageous because the U.S.A is have been in war for far to long, and have killed a lot of inocents, just look fahrenheit 9/11 to see some U.S war crimes, inocent children murder from the sky all beacause a war for oil?? sorry but your goverment is in some deep shit...
EveryBodySucks100 1 week ago
They need to take their heads out of their asses and realize what happens in a war. The least of their concerns should be a few characters on a rifle optic.
pistondriven556 3 weeks ago
Military wont do shit about it. and they shouldnt trijicon mind as well be a monopoly. they dominate the acog industry. they dont have to change anything
GunsCigsAndBeer 3 weeks ago
SOOOOOOTCH!!!!!!!!!!!
GunsCigsAndBeer 3 weeks ago
Enough with this PC bullshit!! If they have Christian beliefs, like what this nation was founded on who gives a shit?? Like their god is all "peace living". Kill em all!!
ruger3939 3 weeks ago
Why the hell are people getting so worked up over this? These are personal craftsman's marks on gun sights, they do not magically transform or bless them into "Jesus Rifles", and they do not show any sort of bias on the military's part.
shdowhunt60 1 month ago
This country was founded on Christian morals...... The first settlers of America were Puritans.... Say what you want, but America is indeed a nation revolved around Christianity in a way. But we do have freedom of religion, so no one is making you be a Christian.
sisk61 1 month ago 2
@sisk61 Compare the Bible codes on U.S. military weapons with the revelations in the Aimed At America 1 video.
vincent15641 1 month ago
@sisk61 "The first settlers of America were Puritans"? So I guess the native Americans were what, imaginary? Try getting some historical perspective.
thetruthrises 1 month ago
@thetruthrises Touche'. I should have worded it better. oh well. I just see this as a liberal attack against Christianity again.
sisk61 1 month ago 2
@sisk61 Amen to that!! Please Keep the Faith!!! We are a Christian Nation!!!
altanoa 1 month ago 4
@altanoa No, we are NOT a Christian nation, but you ARE a Christian zealot and a mindless Zionist..
thetruthrises 1 month ago
@thetruthrises We need FAR more people like you in the world. Never back down.
Jallandhara 3 weeks ago
@sisk61 "This country was founded on Christian morals", drop this bullshit, please. The US was founded on human decency. Quit being a faggot and claiming morality as being exclusively religious. Do you fucking homework and read up on just how many of the founding fathers were Diests and Atheists.
Jallandhara 3 weeks ago
@Jallandhara Did I say the founding fathers were all Christians? no? Benjamin Franklin was definitely not a Christian, but he found the bible to be a great source of moral practices. how bout you do your homework buddy. Honestly. You have the right to your own opinion no matter how wrong and liberal it may be. Hey! that comes from the Bible! I could go on. God bless America!
sisk61 3 weeks ago
@Jallandhara Oh, and i almost forgot. Take a look at the Paris Peace Treaty of 1783. The Treaty officially Ended the Revolution and granted the US independence from Britain. Read the preamble.... "In the name of the most holy and undivided Trinity." Hmmmm, I wonder who that refers to?
sisk61 3 weeks ago
God Rules!!!.
ETAirSoft 1 month ago
yes i love my ACOG.... and no you cant take my serial number off!!! We'll call it a good luck charm.
JonnyC308 1 month ago
@supermoncho Now THAT I would approve of.
thetruthrises 1 month ago
One nation, under God.......
dlcblue50 1 month ago
@dlcblue50 One nation under God. Not one nation under religion. It's important to know the difference in that argument.
thetruthrises 1 month ago
@thetruthrises No argument brother, just stirring the pot. I think it's a bit silly that people are offended though. Trijicon is a christian based company, and we use their sights...it doesnt mean that we have the same beliefs...oh well..
dlcblue50 4 weeks ago
Give me a break its just numbers... I'm no christian but talk about being butthurt man.. Even though. Its crazy that someone would put codes on the riflesights.
Gorbatsjov666 1 month ago
Ill buy one of those scopes if the military doesn't want them
CoryThe411 1 month ago
jesus is our lord and savior we are a christian nation!!!!!! semper phi
wolfcrken 1 month ago
@wolfcrken Christian is as Christian does.
thetruthrises 1 month ago
@wolfcrken No, it's not a Christian nation. That is just a nationalistic dream that you folks need to wake up from. Adapt or die. That is the way of nature, and has also been the way of religions if you know your history.
thetruthrises 1 month ago
@thetruthrises NO we have adapted from being a christian nation I stand corrected on that.One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all.Thats history too I guess? The fact were not all christian in the country might just be the problem!
wolfcrken 1 month ago
@wolfcrken The words "under God" were added to the pledge in 1952, so cannot by any stretch be claimed as a "founding" statement of intent. The fact that not everyone in this country is Christian is one of the only things preventing pseudo-religious tyranny.. Wake up and smell the BS.
thetruthrises 1 month ago
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GONZO0710 1 month ago
@thetruthrises Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Adapt or Die, Not your flesh but your spirit.
GONZO0710 1 month ago
its a pun, bc it uses tritium, which never stops glowing. idiots.
jakegambino 1 month ago
Out of the billions the interviewed only 3 didn't like it....i think that those verses are amazing and uplifting, when is America gonna stop being everyone bitch and stand up
farawayniceguy 1 month ago
We are so politacaly correct we have to make sure are weapons arent offensive!
rockybirddog 1 month ago
SO FUCKING WHAT?
crossx4real 2 months ago
This Is Bullshit lmfaoo!!
GasOperatedM16A4 2 months ago
We ARE NOT equipping Iraqis with M-16's or AK-47's with Trijicon sights, thats a big lie!!!
Just look at the pictures and videos of Iraqi forces, they are not using US made guns with US made sights.
Just because they found a few idiots who say stupid things about Muslims, doesnt mean that a significant amount of soldiers or officers support that stuff. I can spend weeks posting hate speech and lies from the left, but that doesnt mean all of them believe that stuff.
HighlanderNorth1 2 months ago
Ridiculous!!!
Nobody would've even noticed these little tiny unclear abbreviations on the bottom sides of these sights if it wasnt pointed out to them. Not only that, but they dont say anything like "Jesus will prevail over Muhammed".
Of course, the Left will blow this out of proportion and use it against Christians, who they hate. If US Muslim soldiers engraved Islamic verses on their guns, the Left would have no problem with it!
We ARE NOT training Iraqis on M-16's with Trijicon sights. Lie!
HighlanderNorth1 2 months ago
haha Jesus rifle never heard that one before. the bible versus are a trijicon business thing. Trijicon being a private company can do as they wish, they happen to make quality scopes, detestably the best, so these people are essentially saying they don't want the soldiers to have the best equipment because its not politically correct. Honestly I think this program makes the thing overblown.
footbalr074 2 months ago
It is a war created & sustained by defense contractor lobbyists first. A cultural war of American values (NOT necessarily Christian) Vs The values of strict Islamists second.
Friedstuffsable 2 months ago
people will find any reason to bitch!
HawaiiRebel 2 months ago
This same thing has being going on for centuries. I just wish people could understand that not everyone shares their beliefs. And we wonder why all these countries hate us.
CalypsoRaz 2 months ago 3
The wise leader in his deliberations always blends consideration of gain and harm...SUN TZU-The Art of War. The US Gubmint should be ashamed of this.
benjaminnetanyahoo 2 months ago 2
Trijicon and the scopes they make are not just for the military. They are for civilians as well. The military and the government can not tell them what they can or can not put on them. That is taking away their 1st Amendment right which over rules the military's 1st General Order. If the military doesn't like the fact that the put bible verses on the scopes then they are more than welcome to end the contract, recall all trijicon scopes and find some other company to supply the same quality.
ajbrown0117 2 months ago
So having a combination of letters/numbers engraved on your weapon is 'soliciting' their beliefs? What about if they have a serial number on their weapon which coincides with the abbreviations of a biblical verse (I'm sure there are tons like that). Secondly, how exactly are they 'soliciting'? Are the enemy soldiers and citizens close enough to read the tiny engraving on a small part of one our soldier's rifle? Just another attempt to strip the mentioning of 'God' off of anything and everything.
The1cemanCometh 2 months ago
so who cares if there is a small fine print bible verse on the sight.
striker5570 2 months ago
Stop over reacting to this shit its not a big deal
FlyingBacon20 2 months ago
Ugh, its no big deal. Give the armorer some dremel tools and he can take that off in about 3 seconds.
l337pwnage 2 months ago
For the record, not all US Soldiers are Christian...
PocketDrummer 2 months ago 10
@PocketDrummer Exactly.
thetruthrises 2 months ago
Who gives a fuck about what our troops inscribe on our gear its war who cares shits different over there than over there so why do we care as long as our troops are doin there job I could care less about what the scope has inscribed on it........fuckin liberals
michaelrachael 3 months ago
Damn fucking liberals
lgc41004 3 months ago
im gonna buy more scopes by Trijicon.
IWASGIJOE 3 months ago
is it me or do people just need something to complain about these days
The5admeets3vil 3 months ago
One of the dumbest videos on you tube.
SumerianScientist1 3 months ago
Fuck you Allah, Jesus rules!
909prepper 3 months ago 20
@909prepper You are seriously twisted and brainwashed.
thetruthrises 3 months ago 5
@thetruthrises fuck you too, asshole.
IWASGIJOE 3 months ago
@thetruthrises
You both are, religious nutcases.
t0mcos 2 months ago
@909prepper Allah is just another name for god the same god from the bible.
ViolentKisses87 3 months ago
@909prepper I read something in a book and Allach is the same god as Christian's god and Jewish god.
QBJ88 2 months ago 2
@909prepper Fuck you, Christian! Religious freedom rules!
Jallandhara 3 weeks ago
So its a problem that we outfit soldiers with guns scopes with biblical codes but yet its ok for islamic militants to kill our soldiers and on top of our soldiers dead bodies they yell allah allah? give me a break.
cb2k761 3 months ago 2
@cb2k761 Praising your particular version of "Allah" for having vanquished your enemies on your own soil is nothing compared to destroying entire populations and decimating entire landscapes in the name of the Christian God. When whites first invaded the Americas they gave thanks to and praised "God" for destroying the Natives here, my ancestors. Get a little historical perspective, imbecile.
thetruthrises 3 months ago
@thetruthrises
Actually, I am neither a Christian, a Muslim, or an American Indian, and I realize that wars have been fought in the name of religion, but for you to pretend that it ONLY happens in the name of Christianity is nonsense. This is the typical Left-wing bigotry. Muslims actually conquered huge swathes of Europe, Asia, Africa and the Middle East, then forced their religion on people there. American Indians conquered each other for millenia before we came....
HighlanderNorth1 2 months ago
@HighlanderNorth1 Whatever you think I am pretending to is in your perception, not my presentation. Every major religion is guilty of perpetuating and condoning, even blessing and inciting war. Yes, there were mercenary "red" men here before the invaders, and I have no illusion that natives were less warlike. The mentality has not changed in the greedy and needy, but the degree of power in their hands, has. Gross inequality of arms is what has changed. Rocks vs missiles.
thetruthrises 1 month ago
@thetruthrises
They bought land too... don't forget that!
TheMango121 1 month ago
@thetruthrises Need a little historical perspective yourself? you claim to have ancestory from native Americans, they fought amoungst each other, savagely I might add, for things far less than, in the name of "supreme being"(god, allah,ect) and lets get one thing straight no matter the religion its all based upon moral principles of right and wrong. Look throughout the evolution of every creature on this planet, fighting is inherent in nature, like it or not, right or wrong, its there quit cryn
ShakeDownSt513 1 month ago
@cb2k761 At what point has anyone said that's ok? Never.
If you're going to make a point, at least base it on something substantial. The problem with the quotes is that it assumes everyone who uses them are Christian. The problem with deploying those scopes into a Muslim country is that it justifies their claim that this is a "holy war".
PocketDrummer 2 months ago
@PocketDrummer Finally someone who can grasp the gist of the problem without interjecting a batch of personal baggage and bullsh1t into what should be a straightforward logical argument about law and policy. Congratulations!
thetruthrises 1 month ago
I owned an ACOG since I was 17 years old and I NEVER knew that was a bible verse!
I thought it was a serial number! LOL
Silly argument.
TheMango121 4 months ago
This is considered news??? Exactly why I don't watch television anymore.
daveblandston6 4 months ago
@daveblandston6 This was news years ago. It's still interesting to see how heated people get about it rather than googling it to find out that it is no longer a "public controversy".
thetruthrises 4 months ago
wow, people actually worry about crap like this?
duanescot 4 months ago
@duanescot There are valid points on both sides of the argument, and yes, it was very controversial and obviously still is even though it is no longer a real issue.
thetruthrises 4 months ago
@thetruthrises bizarre, of all the things in the world to get upset about, tiny letters on a gun scope? Different strokes for different folks I guess, BTW, I just checked my two trijicon products, it does appear that they have stopped placing these stampings on their scopes, I never would of known either way
duanescot 4 months ago
@CentralSCarolina I agree but ya know this issue was made into a big media flap because the media admits to a liberal bias, and it is the habit of liberals to always rip on America, on our religious heritage, and on those who express their faith (in this case, Trijicon, who's always made these sights with the scripture on them, from day 1). I have an intense dislike of liberals because they always take sides with our nation's enemies, and against the values that the rest of us hold dear.
Minuteman1969 4 months ago
@Minuteman1969
Back in the day, the 1st Americans were Christians escaping religious persecution. Back in those days, women couldn't vote, people owned slaves, and only property owners could vote.
However, things have changed in this country in 200 years, and new non-Christian immigrants have changed the religious background of the USA. Plus, endorsement of Christianity on military equipment makes this country look like a bunch of bible-thumping bullies.
nightfrog65 2 months ago
With everything that's going on in the world. This is what shown on the news. Sad sad sad.
308bushmaster 4 months ago
@308bushmaster It's old news, but it still raises a lot of hackles.
thetruthrises 4 months ago
@sceniccityprepper The U.$. needs all the blessings it can get since it continues to commit sins on a global scale.
thetruthrises 4 months ago
New 660 million dollar contract with the USMC pretty much says it all.
My God thinks what Trijicon is doing is pretty neat.
Mattypphillip 4 months ago
@Mattypphillip Must be pretty cool to be able to read "God's" "mind" and know what "God" "thinks". LMAO! That the military decided to ignore it's own general order against proselytizing and reverse it's decision EVEN after Trijicon agreed to remove the inscription is what SAYS IT ALL. It's a Christian Zionist "Holy War" against the middle east for fun and profit. Globalist expansionism, once called "Imperialism" now called "Peacekeeping". What a sad joke on the world.
thetruthrises 4 months ago
@Mattypphillip The $600M contract explains why Trijicon agreed to remove the sites when this first became an issue.. Profits come before anything, including respect for life itself.
thetruthrises 4 months ago
@Mattypphillip The contract says the USMC like the performance of the scope when compared to its price.
And when did god tell you that? What was the exact quote?
PocketDrummer 2 months ago
Trijicon trolling at its finest.
DickCheneyXX 4 months ago
Don't get your knickers in a twist. The Pentagon reversed it's decision, and decided to continue contravening it's own "general rule" and allow the sights to go into battle with the scripture references intact. Soldiers of other religions or with no religion just have to take it like good soldiers. Truth be told, I'm sure most soldiers could care less. Those who know God don't need inscriptions, and those who don't probably don't give a damn one way or the other.
thetruthrises 4 months ago 4
@thetruthrises - best answer I've seen, and the best comment you've made here. Thanks. As I understand it, the company's devout founder made the inclusion of scripture on their products a legally binding requirement at the time the firm was incorporated, and even after his passing that requirement remains because apparently the corporation is somehow held in trust or whatever, in perpetuity, as intended by the founder. He really wanted to make sure his company remained in Christian hands.
Minuteman1969 4 months ago
@Minuteman1969 Thank you.
thetruthrises 4 months ago
@thetruthrises Well, nobody "knows" god because he is imaginary, just thought you should know. ;)
l337pwnage 2 months ago
@thetruthrises If they "Could care less" That means they care a little bit.
Friedstuffsable 2 months ago
Let me rephrase that....the people throwing a stink about trijicon are scrapping bottom and are terrorists...not trijicon.
wubaru 4 months ago
The people in this videos are the true terrorists!
wubaru 4 months ago
it certainly is not a secret....! Was never meant to be.
surfstrat59 5 months ago
This is quite possibly the dumbest argument I have ever heard. Most of the soldiers using those weapons are christians does that mean they can no longer participate in the war? RETARDED!
Anonymity80 5 months ago
It makes me sad so many people have taken up an iron fist over this...afterall many men and women in combat cling to their faith in times of great struggle and darkness. I hope that this want Trijicons attempt at proselyting, instead I hope it was an opportunity to comfort some young dying soldier fighting for the Democracy he believes in. In the same way Christians seek comfort in God, Muslims also seek Allah for comfort.
If more Christians acted Biblically the world would not hate them so.
stoehnercd 5 months ago
@stoehnercd Technically it fits the definition of proseletyzing. The military has a LONG STANDING general rule against this. If they allow it for Christians, they must allow it for EVERYONE.
thetruthrises 4 months ago
people are this angry over HIDDEN biblical references?? its not shoving any views down any ones throats, youd have to do research to know its a biblical reference to begin with....
Thumpr110 5 months ago
Does everyone forget that this is an American company, where they have the right to practice/preach whatever religion they want, in whatever form of speech they want protected under the 1st ammendment? They are not only a supplier to the US military but also its citizens. Asking a company to recall these sights and remove the inscription and seise production of new sights with inscription not only would be counterproductive to the company, but would violate their most basic God given rights
tubbs1208 5 months ago
@tubbs1208
They are not free when they're subsidized by our tax dollars. They're free to sell them to private customers. Not to the government, and not paid with my money.
SansAuthoritas 5 months ago 2
Fuck the goverment. The want to control everything. Quit bitchin...
flgavilan2002 5 months ago
lol I had an acog on my rifle for 2 yrs and i had no idea there were scriptions on it
kalaekoa 6 months ago
Now thats the power of scripture! you put a verse on something and make big money!!
8drewski 6 months ago
I'm buying a Trijicon!
SolidOrange85 6 months ago
rev 2:9 rev 3:9
hailchrist83 6 months ago
Soo take the biblical means off of the ones that are being sent to Iraq and Afghanistan and those bibles maybe for Muslims who want to covert to christianity or their is locals that live in that region and are Christian and need the bibles
04GUITARPLAYER04 6 months ago
Stop bitchin'
UreallySUCK60 6 months ago
Hahahah Sooch 00 out front for the Christians and the 2ed amendment defenders!
kevin11288 6 months ago
I'm a firearms owner. I'd rather not have this crap on my optic. I'm an adult, I don't have a need for fairy tales. Guess I'll just buy an Elcan SpecterDR for my 7.62x51mm calibrated rifle optic.
Nater245689 6 months ago 2
This guy is a real tool for the Lame Stream Media!
yaahme 7 months ago
Well that's a contradiction.
Jesus with an assault rifle. A man of peace and something meant to kill humans.
BTW I'm all for gun rights but I can't stand it when people yell out God, Guns, and Nation!
xxDanielTM93xx 7 months ago 3
@xxDanielTM93xx Thank you for infusing an intelligent comment into this pit of Bible-thumping, trigger-happy boneheads. There is nothing "Holy" about war. Period. It is the worst of human endeavor.
thetruthrises 7 months ago
@xxDanielTM93xx
I agree. I think anyone should be able to be own any weapon he wants, up to and including an M1A2 Abrams tank or an F-16. But weapons are for defense only. One can never morally initiate aggression. I am against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Putting quotes about Jesus on those scopes used to kill people overseas who never posed a direct threat is blasphemy.
SansAuthoritas 6 months ago
@SansAuthoritas Well said. God and Government make bad bedfellows. The military is in the business of making soldiers and civilians feel OK about killing people for political purposes. Insinuating religion into the mix is a perversion and rejection of the teachings of Christ and turns what should be an amoral entity, government, into an immoral entity, insulting the very religion under whose banner they march to war. Sick and twisted. Wars were once battles. Now they are selective assassination.
thetruthrises 6 months ago
@thetruthrises
Well said in turn, friend. While I agree with your sentiment on the change in war (at least when it comes to the United State (not a typo) that attacks only much weaker militaries,) I think those attacks are too broad and slaughterous of civilians to earn the term "selective."
SansAuthoritas 6 months ago
@thetruthrises just be happy there is war, revelations say the anti christ will bring true world peace before he shows his true form. And i say "true" because that includes places like Isreal, Africa, Mexico, etc. which would be pretty hard to bring true peace in haha. i dont like war but its the sorry truth (at least if ur christian)
Supertasticaquatics 5 months ago
i like the verses. theyre fitting anyways i mean the trijicon sights use tritium, so it makes sense that you will never "walk in darkness" dosnt it? the bible is probably the most universal way possible to express the sight's capability
tmccarthysjc 7 months ago
@tmccarthysjc I would say science would be a more universal way of expressing the sight's capability than a single religion.
Christians just WANT the Bible to be universal. There will never be a single religion as long as people cling to antiquated, dysfunctional ideas about how humans "should" live their lives.
thetruthrises 7 months ago
Shut up and eat a d**k. Its not the gov't place to tell a buissness how to run thier buissness or how to make thier product. Trijicon is not forcing anyone of any religion to read the verses or the bible. If the gov't or other groups are discusted by this then they shouldn't renew the contract that they have with Trijicon. However don't tell a company what it can or cannot do. Find someone else who will bend over and take it up the a**
MonkeyMedic83 7 months ago
@MonkeyMedic83 Congratulations on missing the entire point. As I have repeatedly mentioned below, the Pentagon has reversed their previous decision to comply with their own general order against the distribution of religious propaganda. Trijicon was never "told" what to do, and non-Xians have a right to propaganda-free equipment. The military has now gone back to ignoring their own general order, and trigger-happy Bible thumping soldiers can rejoice while they carry on their Xian Holy war.
thetruthrises 7 months ago
@MonkeyMedic83
Don't tell them what they can do? Pardon me? They were using MY money to put those quotes on the scopes. If it's a private company? Go for it! More power to them! But if they're using my money to make those scopes, hell no.
SansAuthoritas 6 months ago
there is nothing wrong. its religous freedom.
PMAN46 7 months ago
Mental retardation 101
TheTigerStrike 7 months ago
As a Christian, I believe this should not be done. But who do the government think they are? They name nuclear missiles "Peacemaker", they name Military helicopters after Indian tribes "Apache" & "Sioux"
shadowgovernment3000 8 months ago
@shadowgovernment3000 Good points. The difference is, it is specifically against military general orders, or "laws", to allow religious material to be distributed, and it obviously is not right to only provide propaganda from one religion above others. It's a simple argument to me, beyond the psychological impact on the so-called "enemy". Bible thumpers should be happy to know that the Pentagon reversed their decision on this, and decided to continue to defy their own general order against it.
thetruthrises 7 months ago
@shadowgovernment3000 It was the Peacekeeper. It's really not a bad name for a nuclear deliver system as they're meant to deter war, not be used. That said, the Peacekeeper was an excellent first strike weapon, so maybe not.
Nater245689 6 months ago
@shadowgovernment3000
Amen, brother.
SansAuthoritas 6 months ago
jesus do people really give a shit that much the fact that a cereal number just so happens to have a verse number on it i mean does that effect the optic in any way fucking idiots
goldeneye0019 8 months ago
@goldeneye0019 Way to not see the big picture, dude. But that isn't surprising since you don't know the difference between effect and affect or the difference between cereal (that stuff you eat for dinner in your Mom's basement) and serial, which means a sequence, as in numerical sequence as in serial number. Furthermore, it doesn't "just so happen" to have a "verse number" on it, the company placed it there intentionally, and the brass allowed it with a wink, until they were caught.
thetruthrises 7 months ago
@goldeneye0019 Serial number. Cereal is something you eat for breakfast. Yes, people do care. While it wouldn't stop me from buying an ACOG, it makes the US military and the US in general look bad. Hopefully NASA paints Ecclesiastes 1:5 on the next solar observation space craft they launch, because that would be hilarious.
Nater245689 6 months ago
I want one now!!! God bless America!!!
roy6124390 8 months ago
cool beans
CarlRF99 8 months ago
if trijicon makes a product with these inscriptions befor the got a contract with the US military they they should be allowed to keep then that way,afterall isnt this a "holy war" according to the terrorists
fuckiraq12 8 months ago
The military is free to buy their scopes and optics elsewhere. Who says the afghan people even know about them?
417BoyWonder 8 months ago
If the acog's had verses from the torah instead of the bible would Weinstein still be "outraged ?"
mcgrath56 8 months ago
forget that JESUS IS AWSOME!!
blackbacon5o4 8 months ago
I could give a shit but this is fucking stupid in my opinion (which is worth less than the text you are reading).
H4v0kksh0tgunMan 8 months ago
Sabotage:
If you've ever read any thing about Sabotage, then you know that not all Sabotage is a physical attack.
Demoralizing, confusing, and creating disorder among your enemy's and there government can cause wasted time, resources, personel, etcetera.
Now it seems to me that attacking our weapons, our weapons makers, our faith and the soldiers that use them falls into the category of physiological Sabotage.
It's a historical fact.
Just read history.
mmayhue01 8 months ago
@mmayhue01 This isn't going to demoralize one single soldier. They're not going to think of the political ramifications of their optic's serial number when they glass some potential threat in Afghanistan. If a soldier's fighting spirit could be compromised by so little then he is definitely in the wrong line of work.
Nater245689 6 months ago
Let's look at it this way... What about freedom of speech? It's funny how people ignore what this country was truly founded on. The "government" should have no control or regulation on a companie's foundational beliefs or practices. If you don't like it then don't purchase it with your "In God We Trust" printed dollars.
JonElliott888 8 months ago 4
@JonElliott888 There is no "In God We Trust" on credit cards or electronic transfers. The Bible is NOT the definitive guide to knowing God. We have freedom of religion as well as freedom FROM religion, and it is illegal to spread religious propaganda in the military. Sadly, the Pentagon has bowed to the Bible thumpers and reversed theirr decision, allowing the references to remain, in direct contradiction to their own general order which has been in place for many decades. Hypocrisy rules!
thetruthrises 8 months ago
Such bullshit Trijicon has to remove their bible verses because of some islam paranonia if our fight was with them the would know it
Inseversion 8 months ago
"dear jesus make my rifle shoot straight and true". lol wow. how ignorant, can i please get a trijicon that says evolution, 666, atheist, or judas on it? Christians can't grasp the concept of tolerance and freedom. trijicon should lose they're military contract.
coheedatreyu 8 months ago
ITS A SIGHT ON A FREAKING GUN CHILLLLLLLL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TRIJICON IS JUST DOING THEIR JOB IT DOESTN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO FREAK OUT ABOUT A BIBLE REFERENCE. ALSO WE ALOW MUSLIMS TO LIVE IN OUR COUNTY SO JUST CHIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLL
goatman3780 8 months ago
@goatman3780 lol your an idiot...."alow muslims to live in our country"....i can't even begin to point out the flaws in your statement. *puts face in palm and shakes head*.....keep religion out of government.
coheedatreyu 8 months ago
@goatman3780 Unless you are Native American maybe you should go back where you came from. This was never your country, unless you consider stolen property to be owned by the thief.
thetruthrises 8 months ago
Leave the sights just the way they are.
TheFreedomfighter92 8 months ago
what a bunch of bullshit its 2 letters and 3 numbers you interpret them anyway you wish
JAG6363 9 months ago
The irony is that if both sides didn't have old books telling them that their religion is the only one that counts, this war wouldn't exist. Unless we grow through this damn religion nonsense, we're going to kill ourselves off fighting over it... the ultimate irony.
kiminicooper1 9 months ago 9
@kiminicooper1 Finally an intelligent comment.
thetruthrises 9 months ago
@kiminicooper1 That's what I've been thinking lately, only not as smart as what you wrote. I was just thinking that if religion didn't exist, wars like this wouldn't happen.
THX14438 8 months ago
@kiminicooper1
War has seldom actually been about religion. War is all about land, profits, and power. In other words, Mammon: the contradiction of the Creator, the God of Life. People love to couch the purpose in their war in "religious" clothing to appeal to the masses, if it works toward their purposes.
SansAuthoritas 6 months ago
@kiminicooper1 - You have to ask yourself who started that fight. BTW, don't think that this fight can be ended by standing down. The hadji's are 'true believers' in a religion that kills anyone who doesn't adhere to their orthodoxy, and that means waging war and terror on all who do not convert. They will not change, haven't for over 1500 years & if it were in their power they'd nuke America. Meanwhile, libtards whine about rifle scopes & try to cut our balls off like they did during Vietnam.
Minuteman1969 4 months ago
I was taught that America provided freedom to the people. If Trijicon wanted to put biblical verses on their optics, that's their business and if potential customers don't like that, they should either get over it or go to a different company if it bothers them THAT much. Terrorists aren't fighting our soldiers because of a biblical reference that's 2mm large on their optic. Hell, the twin towers didn't have a quote from the bible on a window on 9/11 did they? People are too easily offended now.
shadonite 9 months ago
@shadonite no it's just people like you are too ignorant this day in age.it's one thing if your a commercial business that is selling to the public and choose to market any type of religious media on your product. but it's another thing when its on a issued federal piece of property. this type of thing will be the down fall of this country.people like you.this is not a holy war. Christianity is not the only religion in the world. with this type of thinking it makes you no different than them
coheedatreyu 8 months ago
@coheedatreyu. I don't understand your hostility. You're right, this isn't a religious war and having those inscriptions doesn't make it one. I'm not claiming Christianity is supreme, I'm saying that if they had Buddhist or any other marking, I'd get over it and just use the optic. And what about America's currency and pledge? In God we trust? One nation under God? I just learned that it's illegal to "promote" religious text throughout the military which makes this video more understandable.
shadonite 8 months ago
@shadonite let me explain my hostility then. i'm a fresh soldier about to leave for basic in 2 weeks. this angers me because trijicon, in such a sneaky manner, like the angel of death in exodus sneaking into houses to kill a child which i think is just obscene if you believe it. places this christian paraphernalia on a soldiers rifle without his permission. that tells me that they do not respect all soldier but only christian soldiers. what about alot of our founding fathers? atheists.
coheedatreyu 8 months ago
@coheedatreyu Well I wish you the best on your tour out there, I really do. I respect all soldiers who fight for my ability to say whatever I want, even if they are like you and call me the bane of America and a terrorist. And Trijicon started this tradition because their founder was Christian, not because they hate non-christian troops. And the founding fathers has nothing to do with what I was trying to get to. Why must these markings be removed if they're still everywhere back home?
shadonite 8 months ago
@shadonite you must think more broad. that's the problems christians have. you think your ideas and beliefs are truth and everyone else is just wrong. but you don't have a proof of you being right. they must be removed because it is a issued military item. its unlawful. i don't see how this doesn't make sense to you. trijicon may do whatever they want with they're commercial sales but military items should have no reference to any idea of religion, they have no right.
coheedatreyu 8 months ago