Sometimes I feel the need to made a case for just how much Idina deserved that Tony and how far superior her acting is to...pretty much everyone else who's stepped into the role, but this speaks for itself, now doesn't it? :)
@Swimsmile12 Promises Promises? Yes it was AMAZING. Sean and Kristen were flawless the story line was a little goofy but you couldn't beet the acting and singing
I love how Kristin doesn't overplay this character when compared to the other actresses... I like some of the other acresses as well but Kristin makes it much more "real"
I never got to see Idina and Kristin but I love them and think they are amazing! Stephanie J Block, Annaleigh Ashford, Helene Yorke, and Marcie Dodd will always be my favorites though because I saw them live. Just thought I'd throw my opinion out there :)
@balletDancergirl22 Non-effects means this was b4 they added the sound-effect of a slap as each girl (obviously) stage (fake) slaps the other. With the sound effect it actually can look very real depending upon the physical timing of the actresses.
I don't care what anyone says about Idina as a person, she was made to play this role. Don't get me wrong, I love Stephanie J. Block, and other actresses have done a great job with Elphaba, but Idina is a natural.
I thought they both did n amazing job..... Elphaba had to be a hard chararcter to play.... her emotions are all over the place but i love her... and glinda is just adorable ....
@randabear96 If you hate them so much then why would you bother coming here, and wasting the time to comment on it? Were you just trying to piss people off?
I loved the book, but...I like my happy endings, and even if it's touched with sadness, the musical was nicer, or at least I prefer it. I haven't read SoaW, and quite honestly, I don't think I want to. I'm happy enough with Wicked.
Kristin, Megan, and Idina are the only stars from this show, I think, who have really "Made it." Well, Kristin was already well on her way to stardom before Wicked, but whatevs. I'm probably missing a few stars. If you think of another star who's made it, tell me? Thanks!
I loved Teal (she was my Elphie) but the more and more I listen/watch Idina, I think shes such a wonderful Elphaba! Not to mention I didnt know she was in Enchanted til 12 hours ago!
He didn't. I read Kristin's autobiography, and she talks about how she and Steph created the parts, then they held audtions for Elphie, and Idina was picked. Kristin didn't audtion though, she was chosen and had it written for her.
the perfromance I saw, was funnier the girl who Played Glinda was a lil loudr when they broke up the fight and I heard the smack from the slap, she may have not meant to but she got Elphie good
the part where elphaba says "he never belonged to you, he doesnt love you and he never will, he loves me" is like a line in the great gatsby when gatsby says it to tom
Idina fans! i am making a memory video for her and send me a PM with a message you'd like her to see and your name, and, umm, try to keep it short, thanks
Hopefully. I hope it's good, I never got to see a good version of the actual musical, no matter how hard I searched. I saw one on the internet, but I didn't like the actors and the video quality was pretty crappy.
the wizard kills her? i dont remeber that in the musical...if thats the ending in the book DONT BOTHER REPLYING CZ IM IN THE MIDDLE OF READING IT *plugs ears* lol
Not gonna tell you anything, because I don't want to ruin it, in case you still haven't read Son of a Witch yet, but I will state my opinion that SoaW isn't quite as good as Wicked, though I honestly prefer the musical to both. I don't know about the Cowardly Lion book, though, I haven't gotten to read it yet.
i just realized this almost has a sort of feeling of the wicked witch of the west theme from the movie..like..whenever she's flying and what not, especially that trumpet or whatever part at the beginning of the song when idina first arises out of the floor
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i saw wicked in chicago in november. A girl named Jennifer DiNoia was Elphaba that night...I'm sorry but her acting and vocals were so much better than Idina's.
i do too! i've seen idina in concert once but i would give anything to see them in this. it's like one of the first things i'm gonna do when they invent time machines!
they did last year for the 5th anniversary called The Yellow Brick Road Not Taken but Idina and Kristin didn't go. Shoshanna Bean and Stephanie J. Block were there though
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Marthyxxbabie 1 year ago
well we cant all come and go by bubble!
amandarines1979 1 year ago 2
its musch btter in person and on broadway i didnt see these 2 though wish i did they are fantastic in this scene idina was made for elphaba u go girl
northhenderson2010 1 year ago
its musch btter in person and on broadway i didnt see these 2 though wish i did they are fantastic in this scene
northhenderson2010 1 year ago
Sometimes I feel the need to made a case for just how much Idina deserved that Tony and how far superior her acting is to...pretty much everyone else who's stepped into the role, but this speaks for itself, now doesn't it? :)
nyv527 1 year ago
I got to see Kristen live in Promises Promises last week and she was AMAZING I would kill to see her and Idina live together
BeautifullyTragicxx 1 year ago
@BeautifullyTragicxx I almost saw that, but we went to The Addams Family instead. Was it really good?
Swimsmile12 1 year ago
@Swimsmile12 Promises Promises? Yes it was AMAZING. Sean and Kristen were flawless the story line was a little goofy but you couldn't beet the acting and singing
BeautifullyTragicxx 1 year ago
it must have been amazing to see them live, that was my dream!!
Musicduncanparamore 1 year ago
i love the music at 3:49 and it just stops when fiyero gives up. i love fiyero! he would face death for elphaba<3
wickedObsessed22 1 year ago
I personally think that this is the best catfight scene ever. I've watched the other ones and they just don't live up to these two :)
wickedrentgirl22 1 year ago
IDENA RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
98booklover 1 year ago 4
@soolierastini yup he's the scarecrow!
RnRGirl832 1 year ago
IS FIYERO THE SCARECROW?
soolierastini 1 year ago 2
eden is my favorite when she was on tour when i saw wicked last year.
lukepevensie 1 year ago
let me go i almost had her(hit her with her own hat)
qazwsx697 1 year ago
Idina Menzel is an amaing singer :) I only wish that she was still in Wicked when I go and see it later this year :( Kristen too.
crazyaliuk 1 year ago
love this song
qazwsx697 1 year ago
One question haunts and hurts, too much, too much to mention.
I just love that line :')
highgirlstar2000 1 year ago
NOW THAT WRETCHED FARM GIRL HAS WALKED OFF WITH THEM! Aw Idina
2010soccagal 1 year ago
no one can hold a long note as well as idina menzel. her last "again" says it all.
celia7494 1 year ago
...If they're in the middle of like, a village, where did the swinging rope come from?
jeffhardyfangirl0512 1 year ago
Its dreadful 2 hav a house dropped on you! no shit XD XP OMG lol i love her! I love this scene its one of the best scenes in the whole musical!
12ashes12 1 year ago 3
Idina and Kristin - best cast you will ever see (although eden's 'Fiyero' is amazing :) xxxx
Evelyn4eva 1 year ago 3
You cannot beat the Original cast....India, Kristen ect.... they are just sooo good! AMAZING! i'd love to see these!
LOVxxE 1 year ago 4
i love elphaba she's awesome :)
pirateprincess425 1 year ago 3
Let the green girl go! lololol
Ainze249 1 year ago 3
im going to see this again next weekend in london i ant wait!
bobbie406 1 year ago 2
Fiyero's entrance = WIN
dyslexicxheart 1 year ago 10
atleast someone luvs elphaba :(
stickgurl667 1 year ago 4
i just luv 3:16!!!!!!!!!!!
stickgurl667 1 year ago 2
lol "ahhh, let the green girl go." great entrance, fiyero
stickgurl667 1 year ago 4
when idina's singing the song, it doesnt even look like its idina
stickgurl667 1 year ago
lol theyre so great together......not in love, thats wrong but like acting together and singing and......u know what i mean. GO KRISTEN AND IDINA!
stickgurl667 1 year ago
Glinda = NINNNNJAAAAAAA
aliyarosekunz 1 year ago 2
I wish the stupid audience would shut up!
LerouxsPhantom 1 year ago
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Same, the whole way through watching this i was just like "Umm, this isn't a comedy, fuck off"
kiersabion 1 year ago
shutup WICKED OWNS:)
defygravitybewicked 1 year ago 3
@kiersabion As a matter of fact, it's SUPPOSED to be funny...
Lorzaliiez 1 year ago 2
@kiersabion What are you even talking about? It is a comedy, you imbecile.
tenor220 1 year ago
"Let the green girl go!" Epic!
Nokamero 2 years ago 3
I LOOOOVE Fiyero's enterance!
paraparamore23 2 years ago 5
I love how Kristin doesn't overplay this character when compared to the other actresses... I like some of the other acresses as well but Kristin makes it much more "real"
moonprints 2 years ago 4
i love when kristin starts to hit idina with the hat
it's the hat that she said was made for elphaba!
PotterPotterfreak 2 years ago 3
I loved the no one mourns the wicked music that was mixed in <|:)
petterwoien 2 years ago
the beginning of NGD seems a little faster than usual
thelatestupdates 2 years ago
@thelatestupdates it does
chrissyiskool 1 year ago
*epic wand twirling* :D
Kari166 2 years ago 8
Why do the audience have to applaud every other punchline? it draws away from the story :\
CollosalCarnage08 2 years ago 11
@CollosalCarnage08
It's not just that, it's distracting and very annoying.
It slows down the best parts of the show which ruins it. Leave the applauding to Defying Gravity, things like that.
boffinme80 2 years ago 7
i really want to see this play
lovelust97 2 years ago 4
its brilliant :D
bobbie406 2 years ago
i you enjoy her you should see Next to Normal, Alice Ripley is amazing in it. they have similar sound
dynasty4life57 2 years ago
oh me too!!
dynasty4life57 2 years ago
let the green girl go!
MarioGirl03 2 years ago 28
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i love both idina and kristin but thier first fieyro yells were horriable they had no feeling =(
sandee12341 2 years ago
I never got to see Idina and Kristin but I love them and think they are amazing! Stephanie J Block, Annaleigh Ashford, Helene Yorke, and Marcie Dodd will always be my favorites though because I saw them live. Just thought I'd throw my opinion out there :)
SweetLittleSong 2 years ago 7
yer what does non-effects mean?????????
balletDancergirl22 2 years ago
@balletDancergirl22 Non-effects means this was b4 they added the sound-effect of a slap as each girl (obviously) stage (fake) slaps the other. With the sound effect it actually can look very real depending upon the physical timing of the actresses.
rondack17 2 years ago
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Idina and Kristin are amazing but in my opinion Donna Vivino and Katie Rose Clarke were the best.
LovinRebac4 2 years ago
Idina Menzel and Lisa Bresica are the best 2 elphabas
NoMoreBubbleGum1 2 years ago 2
What do u mean, the "non effects" version? It seems like all the usual effects are in it (trapdoor, blowing cape, etc...).
coasterjoel 2 years ago
Idina's laugh is absolutely adorable! she is perfect as usual i love kristin as well!
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Marcie Dodd is the best elphaba ever!!!!!
luvagyal08 2 years ago
hell no- idina takes the cake easily! idina and kristen made the best team
Hamilton6787 2 years ago 5
I don't care what anyone says about Idina as a person, she was made to play this role. Don't get me wrong, I love Stephanie J. Block, and other actresses have done a great job with Elphaba, but Idina is a natural.
hannahdoo22x3 2 years ago 33
@hannahdoo22x3 agree, but as a point of interest, the songs were actually made to fit her vocals. (Source. Stephen Swartz, The Making of Wicked"
MusicStudyMan 1 year ago
the cutest cat fight ever!!!!!!
hottieho13 2 years ago 3
that green girl line is hilarious! and kristin's wand waving lol.
reeseslightning11 2 years ago 6
"a regime change. caused by a twister of fate"
"well your to busy telling peolpe how wonderful everything is!"
"well we can't all come and go by bubble."
"let the green girl go!"
my fav lines ever
xlxsarah 2 years ago 3
I thought they both did n amazing job..... Elphaba had to be a hard chararcter to play.... her emotions are all over the place but i love her... and glinda is just adorable ....
BarlowGirl27 2 years ago 6
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Terrible acting... Why does everybody love thee actors so much! Both are terrible singers and actors, I'm sorry but I don't like them.
randabear96 2 years ago
Really?? I love them.. they brought such passion to those characters..
I love how Idina portrayed Elphaba.. she was adorable.. not to mention Kristin is hilarious
DudeDoodDude 2 years ago 7
lol you turd you are totaly wrong... you know nothing shutup.
DisposableTeen4Ever 2 years ago
@randabear96 If you hate them so much then why would you bother coming here, and wasting the time to comment on it? Were you just trying to piss people off?
tenor220 1 year ago
this is the most amazing musical ever i would suggest u see it its brilliant
bobbie406 2 years ago 2
i just saw this it is so amazing i would sugguest it
ThatsNotOurName1 2 years ago
really awesome! wish i could see wicked on day
Paikeseratas 2 years ago
the ending note blew me away. no one can hold that note better than her.
celia7494 2 years ago 6
I love that "Let the Green Girl go!" :P
I loved the book, but...I like my happy endings, and even if it's touched with sadness, the musical was nicer, or at least I prefer it. I haven't read SoaW, and quite honestly, I don't think I want to. I'm happy enough with Wicked.
highgirlstar2000 2 years ago 6
She is just amazing. i love the last bit of notes. 7:26-7:48
RaDnEsS728 2 years ago
Kristin, Megan, and Idina are the only stars from this show, I think, who have really "Made it." Well, Kristin was already well on her way to stardom before Wicked, but whatevs. I'm probably missing a few stars. If you think of another star who's made it, tell me? Thanks!
sugar4585 2 years ago
I loved Teal (she was my Elphie) but the more and more I listen/watch Idina, I think shes such a wonderful Elphaba! Not to mention I didnt know she was in Enchanted til 12 hours ago!
FoOLiShxLaDy 2 years ago
haha yea i recently found out she was in Enchanted, so i imediatly watched it on youtube. haha that was a week ago.
Idina is my favourite Elphie :)
My favourite Glinda is Kristin, ive never heard Teal, i shall have to look her up
xHermione31x 2 years ago 2
"well, we cant all come and go by bubble" XD Idina is a legend. so is Kristin
RedKingCommandz 2 years ago 3
LOVE elphie's cackle at 2:35
I just want to play it over and over again, its so awesome!
BellaCullen1320 2 years ago 2
i saw this in sydney my fave song.......cant get enough wicked
justlikeapirate 2 years ago
i saw this one live last spring break- it was absolutley amazing.
Caramell001 2 years ago
I LOVE IT! they are both so talented :) I love how she says "i'm WICKED through and through,"
isabelxxxy 2 years ago 5
i love this musical I'm additced to it going to London to see it for my sixneenth birthday!
DWTWROCKS14 2 years ago 3
it is amazing i saw it last month the london cast are brilliant
bobbie406 2 years ago
Yeah, I sorta hate you right now... ;P Totally kidding about the hating you bit, but I *am* very jealous. Happy birthday, by the way, whenever it is!
TalulahCarmichael 2 years ago
idina and kristin were the best. but the elpphie part was written for steh block, so ya. but idinas amazing
sarawer 2 years ago
No it wasn't. Idina sat with Stephen Schwartz when he was writing it. He wrote it for her voice.
boyofletch 2 years ago 3
He didn't. I read Kristin's autobiography, and she talks about how she and Steph created the parts, then they held audtions for Elphie, and Idina was picked. Kristin didn't audtion though, she was chosen and had it written for her.
sugar4585 2 years ago
sarawer is right steph j block was the original elphaba during the workshop
TommyJayCast 2 years ago
hey hey hey! i got nothin gaints idina! im a huggggggeeeeeee fan. im just speakin 4 j block
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Magicalfreak13 2 years ago
LOL "We Can't All Come And Go By Bubble"
"Let The Green Girl Go!"
NinjaChick226 2 years ago 7
I saw this, with them best cast. They were born for their parts.
PeaceNdLovee 2 years ago 2
youre so lucky! i wish i could have seen THEM perform it :(
xHermione31x 2 years ago
wow. she is the greatest elphaba, (and glinda) there are. they are the best.
mbas97 2 years ago 5
" well we can't all come and go by Bubble!" elphie's lines are so damn good!
mvn0203 2 years ago 6
this was really giood. i just wish i could of seen it when it was in pheonix.
mbas97 2 years ago
you can see they didnt really hit each other, thats good, but it makes it look like they really do hit each other
cutiebdaygirl 2 years ago
the perfromance I saw, was funnier the girl who Played Glinda was a lil loudr when they broke up the fight and I heard the smack from the slap, she may have not meant to but she got Elphie good
Tobias2789 2 years ago
Indina has such an amazing voice!! I love her as Elphaba
musicalgeek95 2 years ago 7
"Well we all can't come and go by bubble". That line makes me laugh every time.
shaqman145 2 years ago 9
the part where elphaba says "he never belonged to you, he doesnt love you and he never will, he loves me" is like a line in the great gatsby when gatsby says it to tom
livelovemovies 2 years ago
Idina fans! i am making a memory video for her and send me a PM with a message you'd like her to see and your name, and, umm, try to keep it short, thanks
scooterviii 2 years ago
i love how at 3:06 Glinda: I almost had her!!! Elphie: HA!
hellogoodbye1714 2 years ago 6
an unexpected twister of fate!
we can all come & go by BUBBLE!
feel better now? -why yes i do- good so do i!
let the green girl go
omg i love wicked!!!!
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i wished they really smacked each other
cprince123 2 years ago
"ahhh let the green girl go" xDD
ILLLU FIERO
missyswan209 2 years ago 3
That imagery they use when taking Fiyero offstage is amazing...
fangwoman 2 years ago 2
Man, I wish I could see this with the original cast, especially Idina and Kristin.
I really hope they're playing Elphie & Glinda in the movie.
And Fiyero was just priceless in this scene. Makes me laugh every time.
And Glinda's wand-spinning. This is great.
smarty350 2 years ago 10
Is any movie based on that musical? I do not hear about it
Abbadon1990 2 years ago
no but theyre going to make a movie based on the musical in 2010
Chiorsinga4 2 years ago
Really? Who'd going to be in it, do you know?
jess50495 2 years ago
so far it will be idinza and kirsten... hopefully they dont replace them
Chiorsinga4 2 years ago 6
Hopefully. I hope it's good, I never got to see a good version of the actual musical, no matter how hard I searched. I saw one on the internet, but I didn't like the actors and the video quality was pretty crappy.
highgirlstar2000 2 years ago
ha"let the green girl go"
WalkingStickShelly 2 years ago 2
she doesnt actually die she hides in a hole so she can live with fiyero but the wizard kills her the water doesnt
ASHLEYxo94 2 years ago
the wizard kills her? i dont remeber that in the musical...if thats the ending in the book DONT BOTHER REPLYING CZ IM IN THE MIDDLE OF READING IT *plugs ears* lol
mikatheactress 2 years ago 3
Elphie doesn't die in the play! She dies by water in the book.
The Wizard kills himself in the end of the book, if I remember correctly...
WOLFFDEPPSPONGEBOB 2 years ago 5
she doesnt she survives
zemnasdarkness 2 years ago
I haven't read Son of a Witch, yet. So as far as I know, she died because Dorothy threw water on her.
WOLFFDEPPSPONGEBOB 2 years ago
she doesnt die in the musical
me759 2 years ago
Go back one page, and please READ what I wrote a month ago. Clearly, you misunderstood. I NEVER said she died in the musical!
WOLFFDEPPSPONGEBOB 2 years ago
Not gonna tell you anything, because I don't want to ruin it, in case you still haven't read Son of a Witch yet, but I will state my opinion that SoaW isn't quite as good as Wicked, though I honestly prefer the musical to both. I don't know about the Cowardly Lion book, though, I haven't gotten to read it yet.
TalulahCarmichael 2 years ago
what wicked movie?!?! whens it coming out?!!? DETAILS!!!
jo4ever92 2 years ago 3
amazing. i hope this cast is the chosen ones for the upcoming Wicked movie!!!
LoveLakink 2 years ago
3:17
LOVE HIM
ihartrodatkins 2 years ago
It would've been funny if he fell. xD But I have to admit that part was awesome.
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Elphaba88 2 years ago
"well we cant all come and go by bubble"
i love idina's face after that line!
by far, the best elphaba. (:
TheTwilighters 2 years ago 7
Feyero is hilarious in this scene
GraceTV333 2 years ago 7
lol, enter NLB on his vine! It's true; NO ONE can beat the original cast!
ztslovebird 2 years ago 6
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it's a great cast but julia murney is, too me, the ONLY elphaba.
JSanzLesMis421 2 years ago
I saw it once a week ago.
I MUST SEE IT AGAIN!!!!!!! *goes insane from wicked withdrawl*
voiceofopinion 2 years ago 2
LOL Let the green girl go
Well, we can't all come and go by a bubble
The wretched Farmgirl
It must be dreadful to have a house fall on you
man this was funny
ericqtlam1234 2 years ago 8
LOL! Glinda with the wand swinging was AWESOME!!
kittiekat10105 2 years ago 3
"Well we can't all come and go by bubble!" LOL!!!!
kittiekat10105 2 years ago 3
nobody else can do this scene perfectly but them! They are the ORIGINALS baby!
MajorTwilightFan123 2 years ago 13
im goin to see tis for the 5th time on wed!!! "well we cant all come and go by bubble!!" ahaha lol xD
xohaylzxo 2 years ago 2
where you're going to see it?
Annihorsegirl 2 years ago
the gershwin theater in nyc.
xohaylzxo 2 years ago
norbert leo butz's best "let the green girl go" ever!
bookworm1138 2 years ago 5
To bookworm1138 about NLB's let the green girl go.. (doing this cause some of my replys go 2 the top):
You can say that again. I wish I could have seen OBC but at least I get to see Wicked in NYC this summer
Twilighter62001 2 years ago
this is my fave scene
dorrito456 2 years ago 4
me too
rocknroll20024 2 years ago
i just realized this almost has a sort of feeling of the wicked witch of the west theme from the movie..like..whenever she's flying and what not, especially that trumpet or whatever part at the beginning of the song when idina first arises out of the floor
rmusic06 2 years ago 5
OHMYGOD Fiyero is such a stud.
madskittlez1122 2 years ago 4
which fiyero is this?
BassPlayingChick55 2 years ago
not sure
madskittlez1122 2 years ago
okayss thanks anyway=D
BassPlayingChick55 2 years ago 3
It's the first Fiyero. Kristin Chenoweth and he left at the same time, so if Kristin is in it, then so is he.
facelesspenman 2 years ago
Not necessarily... just for arguments sake, Taye Diggs was Fiyero for about 1 month when Kristin was still in it. But this is deffinately Norbert
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madskittlez1122 2 years ago
If I was Glinda, I would have come up with a better lie (she does it all the time anyways, right?) like that Elphaba had bewitched him or something.
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i saw wicked in chicago in november. A girl named Jennifer DiNoia was Elphaba that night...I'm sorry but her acting and vocals were so much better than Idina's.
dbanes1219 2 years ago
you hgot it right missprissy, she is the Magnificent Menzel!!!!
goddess22 2 years ago
wicked is the best musical since grease...and this scene proves it ...well not only this one but the whole play actually..
mutzaxedin 2 years ago 5
That scene is so funny, especially with Idina and Kristen. They make the best Elphaba and Glinda ever. I wish I could have seen them.
Lissyd83 2 years ago 8
i do too! i've seen idina in concert once but i would give anything to see them in this. it's like one of the first things i'm gonna do when they invent time machines!
shiningstar7002 2 years ago
I really hope that they have a tour where they have all of the original cast members come back for it.
It's very much not possible, but still, we can dream
jessicake1993 2 years ago 7
and dream i will!!!!!!1 :D
iluvmyhorse33 2 years ago 2
I would think they'd have an anniversary reunion at some point.
theemaestro576 2 years ago 8
they did last year for the 5th anniversary called The Yellow Brick Road Not Taken but Idina and Kristin didn't go. Shoshanna Bean and Stephanie J. Block were there though
jessicake1993 2 years ago
this is brilliant...i love wicked...the music is beyong beautiful
mrdefyinggravity 2 years ago
omg i love them
the8rislife 2 years ago 2
Let the green girl go!
Lmao
MusicalLuver2930 2 years ago 3
yeah that was my favorite part
achmed113 2 years ago
i love wicked, it was amazing!!! "well we cant all come and go by bubble" omg hahaha
alwayzbored94 3 years ago 6
I laugh every time I even think of the "accident's will happen" part XD lol cause yeah a house falling on you is such a simple accident..
KraXoom 3 years ago 6
Of course, it could happen to anyone, you know. XD
madskittlez1122 2 years ago
i love when fiyero comes in and says "let the green girl go!" its so funny!!