Ajahn Gavesako - Dealing with Difficult People

[Paulquappe4u]

I understand absolutly nothing !

[MaryamBurnette]

Wish I could see him someday. He taught many lessons that later his students rewrote them as his dhamma books. I have some of them, very enlightening.

[arnunkitti]

I'll go to be the mounk in this year with forest moung.

Sathu

[stardog333]

Satu _/\_

[ptangboy]

Is not the part of you that says everything is impermanent actually the part of you (the self) that strives for permanence. It seems like saying to oneself that "everything is impermanent" is actually an attempt to find permanence,,, No?

[impermanenttoo]

In Buddhism, we talk about impermanence as things changes every moment. When we realise this, we won't get upset when things do not turn out the way we expect. There is no attachment and clinging to wordly things if we understand things changes every single moment When there's no attachment, there will be no suffering. Eventually we will attain enlightenment, which is a blissful and eternal mental state.

[vapourmile]

@ptangboy I agree with you. Also, I believe seeking spiritual enlightenment is practically the same as seeking any other kind of idealised state... the right friends, the right job, the right mind... it's all materialism, moreover, it's all ideation in its various forms. All trying to inhabit some idealised state. I don't understand the 'law' of impermanence. Knowing that everything is in flux doesn't teach us anything useful?

[Aaibtd]

@vapourmile

You certainly believe. And your belief itself will collapse, become no more, disintegrate. Knowing this, the one who knows turns away from belief and turns their mind towards the deathless element.

[vapourmile]

@Aaibtd Hmmm... I'm not sure right now if this is a wise comment or just psycho-babble, I'm guessing the latter though since reading it hasn't changed anything for me. I believe I know my deathless element, that's somewhat immaterial since I'm still alive and still make choices. Like I've said, it's not about being free, we're innately free, it's what to do with it I'm stil wondering. Just knowing you're deathless isn't, by itself, an executive solution.

[Aaibtd]

@vapourmile

Innately free? Free to hunger, to be afraid, to be angered, to need satisfaction from sensory stimuli. Free to die. I never aim for psycho-babble. I apologize for vagueness - it's a bad habit. But to look at the world and call people free is bizarre to me.

... perhaps we're consuming space here. Switch to personal messages?

[Aaibtd]

@vapourmile

Anyway. What do you think is useful, friend? What is useful to learn?

[vapourmile]

@Aaibtd My guess? The o bvious things... diet, fitness, health, an active life. Most of all, the courage to take ones chances and develop self belief. I find it hard to vouch for enlightenment itself... you still need to eat and get food somehow, breath, maintain health, etc, therefore you're still depenant. So called spiritual leaders who live off monks or from a vegatable patch or from students fees have the good fortune of complacancy: I'd probably feel that way if I had that kind of life.

[xaiesque12]

@ptangboy semi-quote from poet and buddhist practitioner Jane Hirshfield that helps me understand impermanence and practicing meditation: "Everything is always changing, everything is connected, pay attention."

[bobtommsncom]

the best point he makes is that thoughts and feelings are impermanent, and that we are striving for the eternal, the permanent....

this argueing of thoughts and feelings cause much trouble, and do nothing to connect us with the creator or creation or ourselves or others.....so...then...stop argueing and receive silent peace, and allow silent wisdom to come into you...

[WisdomQuoteofTheDay]

Thank you!

[jmby450]

It's hard to understand this monk, when he keeps saying No! LOL

[CrystalStorms]

Just by viewing the smooth stress-free condition of his skin, face, and expression does explain his theory is correct.

[zyx645]

Very Good, 1st aid for the mind! its hard to believe even when the wisdom is forward about food and liveing, that this cause arguments.

you wonder how a mind cannot exept wisdom..

then more, 'breath in, breath out'! thanks

[SOIDOG45]

Kob khun khrap Ajahn

[spiritualmind7]

Great advice!