"It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a prior adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door." Richard Lewontin
"It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a prior adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door." Richard Lewontin
"We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism...." Professor Richard Lewontin, a geneticist (and self-proclaimed Marxist) and one of the Worlds leaders on Evolution. The rest of the quote is found in the next post
Did you see the men that built the Eiffel tower? or the Great pyramids? No? well then how do you know some built them? This young man stated that life is "chemical reaction" well first question: where did the chemicals come from? second question: if life is simply a chemical reaction then why can't we put the chemicals of life into a test tube and create life? the same natural elements that make up an dead person make up a living person but why did the dead person die? What caused it?
Ray Comfort: What a simple minded man: "If I had the opinion that the sun is made of ice, it doesn't affect reality." Yes, exactly right. And because you believe there is a god and he will judge everybody after they die.... IT DOESN'T AFFECT REALITY!! Turn your logic on yourself for a change....
The guy on the stand chatting to Ray seems like a sensitive intelligent guy ...Ray seems like an aggressive con man using cheap psychological tricks. Just an observation.
You do understand that by deleting posts here you are killing people's right to be heard? Censoring is something you should do to the bible as well since that is something you seem to be very good at. Your inability to accept critisism is the reason why people opt to atheism.
@yongkykuncoro The only censoring we've done is the censoring of inappropriate language. Sorry if that offends you; but those are the rules here. We'll not post your blaspheme or bad language. I'm sure that those wishing to be heard have a vocabulary that would allow them to form their objections in appropriate language.
@livingwatersdotcom I think the fact that there are no posts since a year ago pretty much proves that you censor anything you don't like. And BTW Ray, your "builder" argument is old and tired. We know someone constructed the building because we have seen them built, we know a painter paints because we see painters all the time, and the construction of their tools, but no one has ever seen a invisible sky daddy zap ANYTHING into existence. You are WILLFULLY ignorant.
@livingwatersdotcom ..."The rules here" ?? You make the rule that blasphemy won't be tolerated. That is censorship. Youtube isn't disallowing that, YOU ARE.
What Ray is talking about is creation out of nothing . One can believe this by faith but no amount of reasoning will ever establish that something came from absolutely nothing . Actually what can be deduced regarding God from nature universe ect brings one into a confusing predicament that no rational thinking can resolve .
Some things we don't know yet but filling the gaps with a GOD is not the way to go. The stories in the bible did not have to have happened. If I tell someting to 3 people and they tell it also, probably the story has changed a little.
If I read some story's from the bible I don't see why people think the GOD in the bible is all loving ect.ect. I also cannot believe the Arc of Noah, Tower of Babel, ect.ect.
Watch thunderf00t stomp Ray in a debate, where ray uses these same arguments. This guy did good though for a guy on the street. Ray is at home in this type of setting, its hard to debate in front of a croud, off the cuff.
Stupid word play, doesnt prove god. Everyone makes mistakes Ray, or have you forgotten your dreaded bananas. Even if the guy who built the building is dead there are still blue prints, building records, financial records, all types of proof for the building being constructed. What a weak argument. Search Thunderf00t, and watch Tf00t stomp ray in a debate where Ray uses these same arguments.
I like Rays Village people mustache. its as Gay as his street preaching.
Look at those albatross's you think that just happened by accident?!! I mean we would have to be near a beach or something in order for that to be a coinky dink!! God Bless you!
Now who wants to be embarrassed by my Ambush preaching next!!?
@supr4 Have you ever seen anyone make the heads of easter island? Logically you know someone had to make them because things have never and never will make themselves.
Ray's argument is self-defeating. He goes out of his way to show us that our intellects are fallible, and yet he doggedly insists that his own existential philosophy represents the truth.
You are completely correct. Ray has completely undermined his own argument. This where scientific method comes into its own, by setting up hypotheses to be pulled down through experiment and peer review until we have an answer which is impervious to all current criticism because it works from all angles and provides the best prediction of the physical world. The Bible is an epic fail at this because it comes from humans who were ignorant of science.
Behold, for I AM GOD according to Ray Comfort! Let's follow Ray's logic:
1. Ever told a lie => you're a liar.
2. Ever stole => you're a thief.
3. God's name in vein => blasphemy!
The Bible says: "there is none good but one, that is, God" (Matthew 19:17)
SO, if you do an action ONCE then you're labeled with the action; therefore if I do ONE good action I'm Good, just as if I tell a lie I'm a liar! But if I'm good and there is none good but God, THEN I AM GOD!
The Bible says: "there is none good but one, that is, God" (Matthew 19:17)
Your theory is flawed, sorry. Doing one or more good thing doesn't make us God, its simply doing something pleasing before the Lord. If you have ever told a lie, stole, etc (sin), it is impossible to be God because God can not sin. We on the other hand can and do sin. God does not need to be forgiven for being a sinner, we do and He made a way to be forgiven, Jesus. Refusing the parden means Hell for ever.
I know that my logic is flawed, but THAT WAS THE POINT!
If you do one good thing it does not make you good, if you tell ONE lie it doesn't make you a liar! Moreover I wouldn't call somebody a liar unless they repetitively lie and most people make a distinction between white lies and malicious lies and so on!
The point is this: Ray uses a form of absolutism that he knows is unreasonable, if we take his absolutism and apply it universally then we ultimately conclude that we are Gods!
If God is so good why does he order his followers to kill people including children and pregnant woman? Your god was created by primitive man, and your beliefs are an embarrassment.
Conguer2day, if your god is just and righteous, why is that I can find not just one but many references where your god has committed unspeakable acts of cruelty on a massive scale in your bible? It even says that your god is a jealous god and a wrathful god. The general excuse given is that he is god and what ever he does is right by default. How could two standards be present and it still be right? Your God does sin and in the worst possible way. How, by killing his children.
fyw if a person rapes and kills your mother, that one broke the law and can be punished by death. There is a GOD that has the same principals in place, however, HE has provided a "FREE" defense attorney if you wanted one, HIS name is JESUS. Jealous? You willing to let some fruit cake, etc take credit for what YOU created? You willing to let that fruitcake destroy your creation or property and just say ok? Sounds like it. You have double standards. Sin = absence of GOD. Happens in people.
He is a very gifted and blessed man to do what he does for the souls of men that are perishing.
Its interesting how the arguments that God doesn't exist sound so very weak in the light of intelligent conversation.
Excellent Video, Excellent Testimony and teaching tool for us all! God Bless you Ray & Staff, never stop, never quit, save as many that are willing to be saved!
if he sounded like joel olstein.. i would agree... but he is just the opposite. you can tell when a pastor is about the money ... he never preaches on sin and hell. tv is full of them. these guys preach repentance and forgiveness for sin from Jesus alone or hell is coming. :)
Behold, for I AM GOD according to Ray Comfort! Let's follow Ray's logic:
1. Ever told a lie => you're a liar.
2. Ever stole => you're a thief.
3. God's name in vein => blasphemy!
The Bible says: "there is none good but one, that is, God" (Matthew 19:17)
SO, if you do an action ONCE then you're labeled with the action; therefore if I do ONE good action I'm Good, just as if I tell a lie I'm a liar! But if I'm good and there is none good but God, THEN I AM GOD!
Meister Eckhart, a German theologian for whom I as an atheist have some respect, said that "God fears the virtuous poor for he has no way to work his will on them".
"It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a prior adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door." Richard Lewontin
thedarlingcowboy 3 weeks ago
"It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a prior adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door." Richard Lewontin
thedarlingcowboy 3 weeks ago
"We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism...." Professor Richard Lewontin, a geneticist (and self-proclaimed Marxist) and one of the Worlds leaders on Evolution. The rest of the quote is found in the next post
thedarlingcowboy 3 weeks ago
if life was simply a chemical reaction then when someone dies then we would be able to cause that reaction again and bring them back to life.
thedarlingcowboy 3 weeks ago
Did you see the men that built the Eiffel tower? or the Great pyramids? No? well then how do you know some built them? This young man stated that life is "chemical reaction" well first question: where did the chemicals come from? second question: if life is simply a chemical reaction then why can't we put the chemicals of life into a test tube and create life? the same natural elements that make up an dead person make up a living person but why did the dead person die? What caused it?
thedarlingcowboy 3 weeks ago
Well done !!
JBplus4 3 weeks ago
Ray Comfort: What a simple minded man: "If I had the opinion that the sun is made of ice, it doesn't affect reality." Yes, exactly right. And because you believe there is a god and he will judge everybody after they die.... IT DOESN'T AFFECT REALITY!! Turn your logic on yourself for a change....
FyodorMDostoyevsky 1 month ago
The guy on the stand chatting to Ray seems like a sensitive intelligent guy ...Ray seems like an aggressive con man using cheap psychological tricks. Just an observation.
ashleysmith10022 4 months ago
Jesus is Lord!
jordanwendle 11 months ago
You do understand that by deleting posts here you are killing people's right to be heard? Censoring is something you should do to the bible as well since that is something you seem to be very good at. Your inability to accept critisism is the reason why people opt to atheism.
yongkykuncoro 1 year ago
@yongkykuncoro The only censoring we've done is the censoring of inappropriate language. Sorry if that offends you; but those are the rules here. We'll not post your blaspheme or bad language. I'm sure that those wishing to be heard have a vocabulary that would allow them to form their objections in appropriate language.
Thank you for your attention.
livingwatersdotcom 1 year ago 5
@livingwatersdotcom I think the fact that there are no posts since a year ago pretty much proves that you censor anything you don't like. And BTW Ray, your "builder" argument is old and tired. We know someone constructed the building because we have seen them built, we know a painter paints because we see painters all the time, and the construction of their tools, but no one has ever seen a invisible sky daddy zap ANYTHING into existence. You are WILLFULLY ignorant.
whanethewhip 4 months ago
@livingwatersdotcom ..."The rules here" ?? You make the rule that blasphemy won't be tolerated. That is censorship. Youtube isn't disallowing that, YOU ARE.
FyodorMDostoyevsky 1 month ago
@Serpent0fEden No name calling.
livingwatersdotcom 1 year ago
@blucas6 Disrespect for the name of God is not allowed. Please resubmit.
livingwatersdotcom 1 year ago
God Bless you Ray. God is using you mightily!
thebibleisalltrue 1 year ago
@chakamatraka Sorry, too much foul language. I would like to post it if you would be a little more respectful. Maybe you could resubmit it.
Thanks for your understanding.
livingwatersdotcom 1 year ago
What Ray is talking about is creation out of nothing . One can believe this by faith but no amount of reasoning will ever establish that something came from absolutely nothing . Actually what can be deduced regarding God from nature universe ect brings one into a confusing predicament that no rational thinking can resolve .
picassoui 1 year ago
Painting -> painter
building -> building
God -> ???
Universe -> ???
Some things we don't know yet but filling the gaps with a GOD is not the way to go. The stories in the bible did not have to have happened. If I tell someting to 3 people and they tell it also, probably the story has changed a little.
If I read some story's from the bible I don't see why people think the GOD in the bible is all loving ect.ect. I also cannot believe the Arc of Noah, Tower of Babel, ect.ect.
lxx28 1 year ago
Ray again expressing his sick sadistic fantasys.
MoMember88 1 year ago
Great inspiring video....everyone's eyes should be opened to the overwhelming power of Christ in our lives whether we realize it or not...
wbgymnast15 1 year ago
what does this idiot, comfort, do when people don't make the mistakes his props and questions are designed to cause?
MaximusRelaximus 1 year ago 3
"all current criticism"
Meaning that it will change. Things discovered tomorrow can completely destroy todays conclusions. Its a fact.
lambchopxoxo 2 years ago
And the Ray comfort thunderfoot debate is good to watch too.
baeron84 2 years ago
Watch thunderf00t stomp Ray in a debate, where ray uses these same arguments. This guy did good though for a guy on the street. Ray is at home in this type of setting, its hard to debate in front of a croud, off the cuff.
baeron84 2 years ago
Stupid word play, doesnt prove god. Everyone makes mistakes Ray, or have you forgotten your dreaded bananas. Even if the guy who built the building is dead there are still blue prints, building records, financial records, all types of proof for the building being constructed. What a weak argument. Search Thunderf00t, and watch Tf00t stomp ray in a debate where Ray uses these same arguments.
baeron84 2 years ago
We know that a building was made by a man not because it isn't natural, its because we have seen man make them.
supr4 2 years ago 6
I like Rays Village people mustache. its as Gay as his street preaching.
Look at those albatross's you think that just happened by accident?!! I mean we would have to be near a beach or something in order for that to be a coinky dink!! God Bless you!
Now who wants to be embarrassed by my Ambush preaching next!!?
haidermann1 2 years ago
@supr4 Have you ever seen anyone make the heads of easter island? Logically you know someone had to make them because things have never and never will make themselves.
Elektrolytic 1 year ago
Ray's argument is self-defeating. He goes out of his way to show us that our intellects are fallible, and yet he doggedly insists that his own existential philosophy represents the truth.
borgimplant 3 years ago
You are completely correct. Ray has completely undermined his own argument. This where scientific method comes into its own, by setting up hypotheses to be pulled down through experiment and peer review until we have an answer which is impervious to all current criticism because it works from all angles and provides the best prediction of the physical world. The Bible is an epic fail at this because it comes from humans who were ignorant of science.
formless777 3 years ago
Huntington Beach, home of SLAYER!!!
thegreatnixon 3 years ago
This is an awesome example of sharing the truth with others. Thanks Ray.
jesusfreakclp 3 years ago
Behold, for I AM GOD according to Ray Comfort! Let's follow Ray's logic:
1. Ever told a lie => you're a liar.
2. Ever stole => you're a thief.
3. God's name in vein => blasphemy!
The Bible says: "there is none good but one, that is, God" (Matthew 19:17)
SO, if you do an action ONCE then you're labeled with the action; therefore if I do ONE good action I'm Good, just as if I tell a lie I'm a liar! But if I'm good and there is none good but God, THEN I AM GOD!
Ray made me God! :)
ozpowermo 3 years ago
The Bible says: "there is none good but one, that is, God" (Matthew 19:17)
Your theory is flawed, sorry. Doing one or more good thing doesn't make us God, its simply doing something pleasing before the Lord. If you have ever told a lie, stole, etc (sin), it is impossible to be God because God can not sin. We on the other hand can and do sin. God does not need to be forgiven for being a sinner, we do and He made a way to be forgiven, Jesus. Refusing the parden means Hell for ever.
Conquer2day 3 years ago
I know that my logic is flawed, but THAT WAS THE POINT!
If you do one good thing it does not make you good, if you tell ONE lie it doesn't make you a liar! Moreover I wouldn't call somebody a liar unless they repetitively lie and most people make a distinction between white lies and malicious lies and so on!
The point is this: Ray uses a form of absolutism that he knows is unreasonable, if we take his absolutism and apply it universally then we ultimately conclude that we are Gods!
ozpowermo 3 years ago
If God is so good why does he order his followers to kill people including children and pregnant woman? Your god was created by primitive man, and your beliefs are an embarrassment.
fywacia 3 years ago
Yea, what he said!
rednecktrucker1969 3 years ago
Well said!
DiverforPort 3 years ago
Conguer2day, if your god is just and righteous, why is that I can find not just one but many references where your god has committed unspeakable acts of cruelty on a massive scale in your bible? It even says that your god is a jealous god and a wrathful god. The general excuse given is that he is god and what ever he does is right by default. How could two standards be present and it still be right? Your God does sin and in the worst possible way. How, by killing his children.
fywacia 3 years ago
fyw if a person rapes and kills your mother, that one broke the law and can be punished by death. There is a GOD that has the same principals in place, however, HE has provided a "FREE" defense attorney if you wanted one, HIS name is JESUS. Jealous? You willing to let some fruit cake, etc take credit for what YOU created? You willing to let that fruitcake destroy your creation or property and just say ok? Sounds like it. You have double standards. Sin = absence of GOD. Happens in people.
Conquer2day 3 years ago
He is a very gifted and blessed man to do what he does for the souls of men that are perishing.
Its interesting how the arguments that God doesn't exist sound so very weak in the light of intelligent conversation.
Excellent Video, Excellent Testimony and teaching tool for us all! God Bless you Ray & Staff, never stop, never quit, save as many that are willing to be saved!
Conquer2day 3 years ago
pfft hes doing it for the cash
v0andy 3 years ago
if he sounded like joel olstein.. i would agree... but he is just the opposite. you can tell when a pastor is about the money ... he never preaches on sin and hell. tv is full of them. these guys preach repentance and forgiveness for sin from Jesus alone or hell is coming. :)
Conquer2day 3 years ago
Behold, for I AM GOD according to Ray Comfort! Let's follow Ray's logic:
1. Ever told a lie => you're a liar.
2. Ever stole => you're a thief.
3. God's name in vein => blasphemy!
The Bible says: "there is none good but one, that is, God" (Matthew 19:17)
SO, if you do an action ONCE then you're labeled with the action; therefore if I do ONE good action I'm Good, just as if I tell a lie I'm a liar! But if I'm good and there is none good but God, THEN I AM GOD!
Ray made me God! :)
ozpowermo 3 years ago
Meister Eckhart, a German theologian for whom I as an atheist have some respect, said that "God fears the virtuous poor for he has no way to work his will on them".
formless777 3 years ago
Great video Bro. Ray! Its very encouraging to see and hear the great work of the Lord that you are doing in the world!
Eric0873 3 years ago
very good vid i find these type of people very hard to witness too. great vid Ray
ARTMANJT 3 years ago
As always your encouraging Ray!
Steve
HisPerfectLaw 3 years ago
Great video, very nice editing as well
GNNHemet 3 years ago
AWESOME!!!!!!!!
incombahsalaney 3 years ago