What sets my alarms bells ringing is when you vote for a party because they PROMISE they will not raise student fees.... and then when they get in power, oh guess what you go against your word.
I agree the voting system needs work.... but has it occurred to you that less people voted because we know you do nothing that you say you will do during your term?
PR is less democratic. Isn't democracy about "power to the people". Or is our power simply limited to 1 vote every 5 years, some power that is. FPTP puts a physical person in parliament who will represent you and raise your issues.
I say have 1 seat for each constituency, and also alot seats for parties (elected by proportional representation. Let the parie reps bicker and make laws and then let the MPs bring in our views and vice versa. Or somthing like that.
I'll quote Nick "1 in 4 voted for labour party even though they had 36% of the votes thats more than the other partys ;/" again lies and is saying everthing gordon brown has already said
@HHorrror you should listen then comment. i'll quote him the "Gordon brown has been prime minister (even though he wasn't voted) even though less than 1 in 4 people voted for the labour party at the last election" that's word for word. mine didn't really end up being a quote from before but now it was. he didn't day a thing about 36% of people voting for labour because i lifted that from the BBC website
@alygoodwin1 A proportional system agreed by referendum. MMP or STV, whatever people decide they will accept, and which will get rid of the dodgy lack of concensus we have now.
roughly a third of the country votes and roughly a third of that third will rough vote for the government in power. THAT'S ROUGHLY 10% of people in this country that actually wanted the party incharge to lead. Democratic I think not.
Until politics is taught as a mandatory subject in schools we will never have a true representation as to what the country actually wants, simply because people either-
Don't vote through lack of understanding
Vote for who there parents or social surroundings sway them towards
simply have no interest, again though lack of understanding the impact it has on them directly.
If people cared that much about politics then we would adopt a direct democratic system(the technology is in perfectly capable)- but I guess we would have no one to blame but ourselves when things go wrong, instead of politicians.
@Maciek1 would you rather have them breaking into your house, becuz they have no choice than to turn to crime due to them not being able to get a proper job
@dinosaur1010101 what is the essence of the question and answer on Youtube when we can all read the Manifesto? ... Then the model ans by every1 of them shld ve been "Check My Manifesto" :)
years ago I was working at a polling station a blind man asked me to show were to put his cross I cannot but will ask the the nun near by he said he wanted to vote communist ,he showed me the voting form the cross next to the tory canditdate I SAID NOTHING so as to not cause embarrassment.I`v hated nuns ever since.
NEWS FLASH .BBC north west Liberals workers for the Oldham canditates are knocking indoors wanting to collect postal voting packs and will fill them in for them.this normal in this area who needsP.R. AND Ithought they were the nice guys
PR is all well and good, but it removes direct representation, which I believe is a good thing. If you make voting purely about PR then all independents are no longer able to stand to represent their local area, they would have to join a political party. Whilst our current system does need a bit of fixing, PR is not the answer.
@parlindon The Lib Dems ARE proposing an alternative to the current system. It's called 'proportional representation', it's in use all over the world, and I'm amazed some people apparently haven't heard of it.
@saidakhu the system uses the STV single transferable vote and the STV reduces the role of political parties in the electoral process.There is also the issue of district size for example With 9 to be elected any who reach10% electoral support will win a seat, whereas with 5 to be elected 16.7% is required.also larger districts and the implicit larger number of candidates also increase the difficulty of giving meaningful rankings to all candidates from the perspective of the individual voter
I like now Nick Clegg is down to earth and real. He's not not sitting in his garden, or what ever, looking like a smug arse trying to win a popularity contest, which is definitely what this election has turned into and I think it's definitely wrong. This is not the 'x-factor'.
The last LIBERAL GOVERMENT had the chance to change the voting system it took the LABOUR PARTY years to get to power before the workingclass changed their vote to labour because the Liberals were currupt and CRAP.
@kitwann1 And as an ongoing issue with the Liberal statement "those old parties" apart from changing the position of 'Liberal' in the parties name it's been around for ever. The first Liberal PM was in 1842 (ish) and the last was in 1922!
@dinosaur1010101 Yes? My point still remains that the Liberals are an old party. The statement is inherently ambiguous, anyone who does not know their political history would come to the conclusion that the Liberals are a new (or recently) party, which they are not. The only news channel that comments on this statement is Sky!
@slovenedisco when people quote the conservatives and Labour as old parties- they might be referring to their MP's average age. (there all from the baby boom era?)
Every vote counts anyway. What we didn't here is what Mr. Cleggs solution would be, I assume it would be a proportional representation system as used in the EU where just about every government is a coalition, Belgium has had no government for two years now as they can't agree with one another. Having lived in a country with a coalition government I can say that nothing ever happens apart from increased taxes, this would be the same with a UK hung parliament.
@slovenedisco as it is labour, for example, can get by far the least votes, but can still have the most seats. Please tell me how that is right and democratic.
A true democracy can not exist as we'd always be voting, the nearest system is that in Switzerland where they vote locally on things that effect people, but this doesn't work for tax, for obvious reasons! Proportional representation would result in a hung parliament (see: most EU countries and Belgium!) First past the post is not perfect but usually results in a single party government meaning quick decisions at moments of risk (IE: war). The main reason that Labour could win with more seats is
due to ward borders being changed by Labour meaning they are more likely to win. These changes enable Labour to win few votes but many seats. As it stands wards are made up geographically and not on population per area. IE a ward with three votes for labour = 1 Labour seat. However a ward with 30,000 votes for the Looney party = 1 Looney seat. For a fairer system vote for border changes based on population numbers per area.
@slovenedisco I do agree that nothing gets done with a coalition government, but It is not a parties fault that the public can't decide who should clearly win. would you like if they agreed on everything instead of questioning an issue with your interest in mind.
We ask for a democratic system and at the same time we want a government where issues are dealt with promptly and without haste. In my experience that creates bills that are not thought out correctly and do more damage than actual good
@dinosaur1010101 I agree it is not a parties fault that the electorate generally could not care less who governs the country but it seems very much that the Libs are in favour of PR as this would boost their position on the benches. You refer to your experience, if this is based on the outgoing Labour party then you are correct as they have brought in a huge raft of new laws and bills and rail-roaded them through on a huge majority.
@slovenedisco I was not referring to our country, more indirect democracy as a whole. If it was up to me I would introduce politics into schools getting the majority of the next generations interested. hopefully increasing the voter turnout and making people understand the consequences of their vote.
When politics is a subject people are familiar with as much as football maybe we can have a direct political system, But I guess who is their to blame when things go wrong......
Can't help noticing he doesn't propose what he plans to change the system too. dave cameron has the right idea with the current system being kept but with different sized constituencies. Britian cannot handle a hung parliament every election under PR.
I like now Nick Clegg is down to earth and real. He's not not sitting in his garden, or what ever, looking like a smug arse trying to win a popularity contest, which is definitely what this election has turned into and I think it's definitely wrong. This is not the 'x-factor'.
Good Job, Nick, explanning that the current electoral system is undemocratic, however as long as it keeps highly political sustainable parties in power and doesn't let any minority party such as the BNP get a seat then i consider it fine, but if a electoral reform for a proportinal system was made, how would we know that not a load of minority parties would get in. I certainly would not want the country run by a hung parliament, where numerous parties would be in parliament.
yeah pft like u even cout the fucking votes hahahahahaha rofl
dannystar01 1 month ago
What sets my alarms bells ringing is when you vote for a party because they PROMISE they will not raise student fees.... and then when they get in power, oh guess what you go against your word.
I agree the voting system needs work.... but has it occurred to you that less people voted because we know you do nothing that you say you will do during your term?
mofluk15 4 months ago
PR is less democratic. Isn't democracy about "power to the people". Or is our power simply limited to 1 vote every 5 years, some power that is. FPTP puts a physical person in parliament who will represent you and raise your issues.
I say have 1 seat for each constituency, and also alot seats for parties (elected by proportional representation. Let the parie reps bicker and make laws and then let the MPs bring in our views and vice versa. Or somthing like that.
alex471996 10 months ago
I voted for change, not to let CONservatives block it.
/watch?v=MqlTJ8OLE9A
cameron2575 1 year ago
=P hurray for Liberal Democrats!
Dubaifreak 1 year ago
Good luck Nick.
I'm not necessarily voting for you, but anything is better than having Labour or The Tories.
David Cameron has openly said he would support war with Iran.
Please don't vote for Labour or the Conservatives.
If you do, you are throwing your vote away on a bunch of corrupt psychopaths.
NO WAR WITH IRAN... Peace on Earth.
tjbayliss 1 year ago
I'll quote Nick "1 in 4 voted for labour party even though they had 36% of the votes thats more than the other partys ;/" again lies and is saying everthing gordon brown has already said
IBrokeRules1and2lulz 1 year ago
@IBrokeRules1and2lulz He was saying that 1 in 4 of people in the country voted who could have, and 36% of the people who DID vote, voted for Labour.
Listen, then comment.
HHorrror 1 year ago
@HHorrror you should listen then comment. i'll quote him the "Gordon brown has been prime minister (even though he wasn't voted) even though less than 1 in 4 people voted for the labour party at the last election" that's word for word. mine didn't really end up being a quote from before but now it was. he didn't day a thing about 36% of people voting for labour because i lifted that from the BBC website
IBrokeRules1and2lulz 1 year ago
proportional representation ftw!
EDGARisfantastic 1 year ago
And this system will be...? I like Mr. Clegg but he appears to be avoiding the question a bit
alygoodwin1 1 year ago
@alygoodwin1 A proportional system agreed by referendum. MMP or STV, whatever people decide they will accept, and which will get rid of the dodgy lack of concensus we have now.
AdamGillett 1 year ago
@AdamGillett Thank you! I thought he was dodging the question and was thinking that Nick Clegg had betrayed me :P
alygoodwin1 1 year ago
I couldn't agree more! So nice to see a political party standing up for this!
We had this reform in Sweden many many years ago and it's time Britain catch up!
Salladsdressing 1 year ago
roughly a third of the country votes and roughly a third of that third will rough vote for the government in power. THAT'S ROUGHLY 10% of people in this country that actually wanted the party incharge to lead. Democratic I think not.
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
Until politics is taught as a mandatory subject in schools we will never have a true representation as to what the country actually wants, simply because people either-
Don't vote through lack of understanding
Vote for who there parents or social surroundings sway them towards
simply have no interest, again though lack of understanding the impact it has on them directly.
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
If people cared that much about politics then we would adopt a direct democratic system(the technology is in perfectly capable)- but I guess we would have no one to blame but ourselves when things go wrong, instead of politicians.
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
This Cu*t want amnsety for illegal immigrants sorry Clegg youre an idi*t
Maciek1 1 year ago
@Maciek1 would you rather have them breaking into your house, becuz they have no choice than to turn to crime due to them not being able to get a proper job
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
But dude didn't answer the question!!! What would u do?
Doncontra 1 year ago
@Doncontra Are you stupid.
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
@dinosaur1010101 what is the essence of the question and answer on Youtube when we can all read the Manifesto? ... Then the model ans by every1 of them shld ve been "Check My Manifesto" :)
Doncontra 1 year ago
@Doncontra it's like your trying to preach without reading the bible (Not that The liberal democrats Manifesto is comparable to the bible)
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
@Doncontra red theremanifesto
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
years ago I was working at a polling station a blind man asked me to show were to put his cross I cannot but will ask the the nun near by he said he wanted to vote communist ,he showed me the voting form the cross next to the tory canditdate I SAID NOTHING so as to not cause embarrassment.I`v hated nuns ever since.
kitwann1 1 year ago
NEWS FLASH .BBC north west Liberals workers for the Oldham canditates are knocking indoors wanting to collect postal voting packs and will fill them in for them.this normal in this area who needsP.R. AND Ithought they were the nice guys
kitwann1 1 year ago
@kitwann1 I think you'll find that Labour do the same thing in old peoples homes! Another example of Labour making a mockery of the system!
slovenedisco 1 year ago
PR is all well and good, but it removes direct representation, which I believe is a good thing. If you make voting purely about PR then all independents are no longer able to stand to represent their local area, they would have to join a political party. Whilst our current system does need a bit of fixing, PR is not the answer.
pmy008 1 year ago
@parlindon The Lib Dems ARE proposing an alternative to the current system. It's called 'proportional representation', it's in use all over the world, and I'm amazed some people apparently haven't heard of it.
saidakhu 1 year ago 3
@saidakhu the system uses the STV single transferable vote and the STV reduces the role of political parties in the electoral process.There is also the issue of district size for example With 9 to be elected any who reach10% electoral support will win a seat, whereas with 5 to be elected 16.7% is required.also larger districts and the implicit larger number of candidates also increase the difficulty of giving meaningful rankings to all candidates from the perspective of the individual voter
parlindon 1 year ago
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I like now Nick Clegg is down to earth and real. He's not not sitting in his garden, or what ever, looking like a smug arse trying to win a popularity contest, which is definitely what this election has turned into and I think it's definitely wrong. This is not the 'x-factor'.
sdunnicliffe 1 year ago
The last LIBERAL GOVERMENT had the chance to change the voting system it took the LABOUR PARTY years to get to power before the workingclass changed their vote to labour because the Liberals were currupt and CRAP.
kitwann1 1 year ago
@kitwann1 And as an ongoing issue with the Liberal statement "those old parties" apart from changing the position of 'Liberal' in the parties name it's been around for ever. The first Liberal PM was in 1842 (ish) and the last was in 1922!
slovenedisco 1 year ago
@slovenedisco "these old parties that have remained in power"
finish the sentence
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
@dinosaur1010101 Yes? My point still remains that the Liberals are an old party. The statement is inherently ambiguous, anyone who does not know their political history would come to the conclusion that the Liberals are a new (or recently) party, which they are not. The only news channel that comments on this statement is Sky!
slovenedisco 1 year ago
@slovenedisco when people quote the conservatives and Labour as old parties- they might be referring to their MP's average age. (there all from the baby boom era?)
I don't know I'm just throwing it out there.
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
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munkys01234 1 year ago
@munkys01234 Thats what i was thinking he didn't give us a policy there just meaningless words he thinks everyone wants to hear
parlindon 1 year ago
@parlindon have you read there manifesto. I THINK NOT
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
@munkys01234 Are you seriously unaware of the system called 'proportional representation' which the Lib Dems have been advocating for years?
saidakhu 1 year ago 3
@munkys01234
Nice try lol
OfficialHeadShotKO 1 year ago
@munkys01234 Your majorly stupid
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
Tories look like the best we can get right now. And what does his lordship Clegg want us to do? Oh, the little cacti-killing schoolboy doesn't know.
ImperiumBritannica 1 year ago
@ImperiumBritannica The best we can get right now.????Please elaborate.
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
Too Much Criticism
SOAREOLA 1 year ago
Every vote counts anyway. What we didn't here is what Mr. Cleggs solution would be, I assume it would be a proportional representation system as used in the EU where just about every government is a coalition, Belgium has had no government for two years now as they can't agree with one another. Having lived in a country with a coalition government I can say that nothing ever happens apart from increased taxes, this would be the same with a UK hung parliament.
slovenedisco 1 year ago
@slovenedisco as it is labour, for example, can get by far the least votes, but can still have the most seats. Please tell me how that is right and democratic.
Person012345 1 year ago
A true democracy can not exist as we'd always be voting, the nearest system is that in Switzerland where they vote locally on things that effect people, but this doesn't work for tax, for obvious reasons! Proportional representation would result in a hung parliament (see: most EU countries and Belgium!) First past the post is not perfect but usually results in a single party government meaning quick decisions at moments of risk (IE: war). The main reason that Labour could win with more seats is
slovenedisco 1 year ago
due to ward borders being changed by Labour meaning they are more likely to win. These changes enable Labour to win few votes but many seats. As it stands wards are made up geographically and not on population per area. IE a ward with three votes for labour = 1 Labour seat. However a ward with 30,000 votes for the Looney party = 1 Looney seat. For a fairer system vote for border changes based on population numbers per area.
slovenedisco 1 year ago
@slovenedisco I do agree that nothing gets done with a coalition government, but It is not a parties fault that the public can't decide who should clearly win. would you like if they agreed on everything instead of questioning an issue with your interest in mind.
We ask for a democratic system and at the same time we want a government where issues are dealt with promptly and without haste. In my experience that creates bills that are not thought out correctly and do more damage than actual good
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
@dinosaur1010101 I agree it is not a parties fault that the electorate generally could not care less who governs the country but it seems very much that the Libs are in favour of PR as this would boost their position on the benches. You refer to your experience, if this is based on the outgoing Labour party then you are correct as they have brought in a huge raft of new laws and bills and rail-roaded them through on a huge majority.
slovenedisco 1 year ago
@slovenedisco I was not referring to our country, more indirect democracy as a whole. If it was up to me I would introduce politics into schools getting the majority of the next generations interested. hopefully increasing the voter turnout and making people understand the consequences of their vote.
When politics is a subject people are familiar with as much as football maybe we can have a direct political system, But I guess who is their to blame when things go wrong......
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
@slovenedisco Quick question - How are the Lib Dems in favour of PR as much as the next party?
dinosaur1010101 1 year ago
Can't help noticing he doesn't propose what he plans to change the system too. dave cameron has the right idea with the current system being kept but with different sized constituencies. Britian cannot handle a hung parliament every election under PR.
fredleeming 1 year ago
I like now Nick Clegg is down to earth and real. He's not not sitting in his garden, or what ever, looking like a smug arse trying to win a popularity contest, which is definitely what this election has turned into and I think it's definitely wrong. This is not the 'x-factor'.
twasbrian 1 year ago 10
@twasbrian
ImperiumBritannica 1 year ago
blair & brown have systematicly screwed this country, but every vote for nick clegg
will set this country back years & more in debt. 2 choices conservative or bnp
if you dont trust cameron for gods sake vote bnp dont waste your vote on clegg,
the liberal democrats are like chewing gum on your shoes, easy to get on but very hard to get off.
panzr999 1 year ago
BNP
23BY 1 year ago
Right first name,Wrong last name!
BNP is the ONLY party for the UK right now, Lab/Tory/Lib Dems are all one and the same (Traitors to Britain)
I want a hung parliment...I'll supply the rope for all three of these clowns.
Thewizard22uk 1 year ago
Nick and I are in agreement.
WillSKB88 1 year ago 18
Good Job, Nick, explanning that the current electoral system is undemocratic, however as long as it keeps highly political sustainable parties in power and doesn't let any minority party such as the BNP get a seat then i consider it fine, but if a electoral reform for a proportinal system was made, how would we know that not a load of minority parties would get in. I certainly would not want the country run by a hung parliament, where numerous parties would be in parliament.
renedenton 1 year ago