DVST8OR !!!!!! has to be ... looks and sounds just like it. And is thee best sounding ls1 ever. everyone watch... Z O SICK vs Dvst8or , and tell me if you think it's the same car.
lol ppl always bash ford when ford is smart at this game. give alittle and sell it make alot money. give alittle more make more money chevy well gm just fuckin retards they try to get rich over nite and now look they produce a worldwide spread of chevy fannie boys oh well to the chalk board we go ford im up for slaying these punk ass chevy boys up
everyone has something to say about chevy making more hp then ford but do you realize that ford uses smaller engines and is making more/ just as much as chevy's bigger engines. funny how ford is producing 412hp with a 5.0 (which they could get more) and it took chevy a 6.2l to make 420ish....
@2008saleen and every ford guy brings up the bigger engine thing. It seems they either forget about the extra 3 cams they have stuffed in there, or they're to ignorant to understand how a motor works. a handful of cams and double the valves, more than makes up for a lack of cubes =)
Hahaha u must feel proud of ur self, thinkn dis was evn a fair fight haha it took 150 shot to beat a teminator hahaha if it wernt for 03 ford coupe rear end, and a t56 ford tranny marros wouldn't be able hang hahahaxD
damn why are their so many haters..i love mustangs but i got love for all american muscle crs..damn chevy win some ford win some..but in my opinion(which has nothing to do with my love for ford but based on pure statistics)ford is winning the pony car race as of july 2010..the 2011 mustang has put ford over the top..hopefully chevy comes out with something that weighs less but until then ford is numero UNO
nice camaro i guess...even though it was going up against a pretty much stock cobra,.........if u throw a kenne bell mammoth kit on the cobra the outcome would b very different.........and before all u gm guys bash me and say "yea well throw a supercharger on the maro and c what happens!!" ...lol bro its a 4.6 agains a 5.7, thats why theres a blower, to make up for the lost cubic inches!!!! and in my opinion if the maro doesnt use the juice its just as slow as all the other maros out there!!!
@afgandominator 4.6 with 32 valves and 4 cams with sustained volumetric effiiency at 95 to over 100% due to forced induction vs a 5.7 with 16 valves and 1 cam with volumetric effiiciency at best 85-90% sustained at best 80-85% due to natural aspiration. Don't forget that part car guy... cuz We gunna c wut happenz am I rite?
@Feenyxxx95 so pretty much what ur saying is.....Fords much smaller engine is built much much better in the fact that it has 32valves, 4 cams, forced induction, lol thanx for pointing all that out "car guy" why the heck would anybody wanna buy a gm motor with only 16 valves and 1 cam, lol just sayen
@afgandominator no actually I was filling in the holes in your typical "4.6 vs 5.7" argument. The LSx series of motors are unlike anything else in the performance world right now, because nobody has done what gm has done with pushrods from the factory. Both Fords 4.6 and gms ls1 are great motors. As I said I was filling in the holes in your very flawed "4.6 vs 5.7" engine size argument. Theres alot in that "little" 4.6 making up for those "lost" cubes outside a blower.
@Feenyxxx95 i understand where ur coming from guy, i shouldnt even b talking shit to tell u the truth lol i love ford and drive a supercharged roush, but i would take a chevy anyday, well i mean i would take a corvette anyday, im not a big camaro fan, the new ones are alright but the older ones are just plain ugly, but when it comes down to it, Ford and GM are both great american companies...fuck the ricers!!
@afgandominator indeed I have love for both as well. Im pretty much the same as far as the camaro goes. Not to big on its styling, I drive a trans am myself but love the vette. Also because I was once a hardcore ford fan, I still to this day, after 9 years, have this weird relationship with the camaro to where I'll probably never own one lol. Even though I root for it whenever its heads up with something that doesn't have an LSx motor =/,, weird I know.
@afgandominator why because it can sustain high efficiency because of the blower lol? you must have not read what I said. I wasn't implying either motor was better, but you can't translate anything I said to ford having the better motor. the ls series Did something ford never ever did with the traditional small block from the factory. LS1 vs GT40 5.0? And im not talking about power output only. Design itself. Buddy's firehawk got 32mpg from houston to ohio while putting down 323 rwhp stock.
i new that was gone happen just aport n he gt a 150 shot u had no chance at all 550 vs maby 500 gas is instant u gt 2 gt 2 certain rpms gt asafe injection a least then it might b a race
correct. I believe the best all stock Cobra pass is 12.4 at around 113. I went 12.9 at 109 stock in my M6 LS2 GTO. One day I'd like to have a Cobra as well
oh god its a "what if" contest...i HATE that..this perticular SS happend to ASSRAPE that perticular kobra...happens all the time...leave it at that!!!
and he got the car for $13k 4 years ago its just a matter of $1500 bucks and the ls1 gets over 600whp easily...you don't really wanna see wat a 470whp ls1 would do to a 500whp ford...Rip it apart...no offense lol...been there
yea or you can do wat my cousin did to his ls1 trans am...bought a turbo T70 got it for $500,an external wastegate $300,intercooler $180, got injectors for $100 like the cobras the blue ones,walbro 255 fuel pump $99, made a return line with the same lines the car has, and made the pipes himself so let's say $1500 bucks total...6psi 390whp/440torque ,Z06 heads forged pistons 11psi 620whp on pump gas,waiting on bigger injectors to see wat 17psi can do on an ls1
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the z06 doesnt even have that much power because it has the ls9 or whatever and thats a huge engine and it doesnt even produce alot of hp chevy is a piece of shit ford all the fucking way besides everybody is entitled to their own opinion right!
@tamapalagi thats why the Camaro flopped in 02 and took like 8 years to bring back, while the Mustang never stopped production since the 60s? And thats why Ford has sold alot more Mustangs then Camaros, right? And thats why even the new SS loses to the new GT, right? Ford came first and always will be first. You can argue all you want but look at the sales numbers and the stock vs stock races, thats the real proof.
@iGOTCHOPPERS1 I'll cut you some slack since you sport the eagle,globe and anchor. Mustang never had to share the market within it's own division. Camaro had to deal with trans ams and corvettes. V6 mustangs sold more than V8s and those were bought by females. Females like mustangs better than camaros because they are easier to get into while wearing dresses.
@DrSloer there are a dozen cars that are better than the mustang and camaro. in this video the mustang lost. as a whole the mustang will never be as good as the camaro,corvette,m5.LFA,911. At least GM has a few that can claim a spot with the ferraris and bugattis. The LS9 corvette,cstv caddy and if it ever comes the new z28.
My LS1 Camaro was $5,000 and I put $4000 into it. It is now faster than a Cobra without having to go into the $20,000+ Range like porches and all that.
@CamaroSS2236 most people will agree that dollar for dollar chevies will always be faster than other brands. there are other asspects of a car besides speed that makes it great. my friend has a lexus 430gs and that is an awesome car. it's fast but not the fastest but the quality and the sound system are great. It's a pricey car but it isworth the money if that's what you're looking for. ford guys have nothing to hang their hats on but the mustang so give them a mulligan for only having one car .
@tamapalagi you forget that ford has a car called the ford gt aka ford gt40 .The ford gt was made to beat ferraris in the 24 le mans and im sure that the ford gt is in the same class as a vett .Also the new camaros are junk a big boat that why car and driver has the ford mustang gt as #1 over the camaro ss (SUPER SLOW)and the challenger srt8 so the top of the line vs base the mustang wins .I give you that gm has more high in class cars then ford but ford is not that far off
@tamapalagi how is that ancient history they made the ford gt also in 2006 so you stated ( ford guys have nothing to hang their hats on but the mustang so give them a mulligan for only having one car .)i never said the mustang is faster then a ss all i said was CAR AND DRIVER rate the mustang gt on top of the camaro ss and the srt8 challenger (mustang gt being a base vs the SS and the SRT8)and yes us ford fan can rest our hats on the mustang never leaving like the camaro did
@tamapalagi how is that ancient history they made the ford gt also in 2006 so you stated ( ford guys have nothing to hang their hats on but the mustang so give them a mulligan for only having one car .)i never said the mustang is faster then a ss all i said was CAR AND DRIVER rate the mustang gt on top of the camaro ss and the srt8 challenger (mustang gt being a base vs the SS and the SRT8)and yes us ford fan can rest our hats on the mustang never leaving like the camaro did .
Go ahead and list the price tags on those cars while your talkin about them buddy.... I have seen a ton of chevys rolling around that were mentioned, how many of these cars are rolling around? Not very many, try again. Should I list that the cars you mentioned are also not made by ford? Saleen and Shelby aren't ford, they are the reason ford has some fast cars though, lol. But both those cars are hyper cars, and will damn near never be seen on the street. Like I said, try again, buddy.
@afgandominator yea they rule. and it only took them 30+ years to figure the mustang out lol. first time in history they were able to produce a mustang that makes over 300rwhp from the factory w/o boost. im glad im not a ford guy cuz all they have is the mustang. so sad....
@deadeyedickification Im confused, 30+yrs to make a N/A motor that pushes over 300rwhp? What about the Cobra R? 5.4l 385hp? Ford can produce what ever they want to produce, they never went out of business like GM, seems to me ford is doing something right, if ford wants to beat GM they easily can, 03-04 Cobra, made to destroy the Camaro, GM comes out with new Camaro, Ford comes right back with the new 5.0 "N/A" and it now stomps the Camaro, yes GM has the Vette, buuuuut seems thats all they have
@afgandominator ill be man enough to admit i forgot about the Cobra R BUT they were a one-time deal and only meant to road race. and the '03-'04 cobra? yea its boosted guy. id hate to imagine what shame GM would have put on Ford if they built a supercharged/forged f-body. it'd be '93-'02 all over again. look i dont hate Ford, just the mustang. even then its just owners i cant stand. mustang owners didnt have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of until the '03 Cobra. these are facts.
@deadeyedickification yes FORD has the smaller displacement motors and they boost them, so what? Im sure if they built huge ass 5.7 - 7.0l motors they would be N/A as well, u may hate the mustang buut they have stepped up there game since the 03-04 Cobra was introduced, only thing GM has better is the Vette which isnt even in same class, from 03-2011 Fords "mustang" has been pretty damn impressive, now they have the N/A 5.0 that out preforms the Camaro's 6.2l, GM guys still living in the 90's
@afgandominator eh, actually the only mustang after the '03-'04 cobra that's impressive is the new one. the one in between is a sad sack. head/cams combinations only net you ~350-360rwhp. my 130K mile T/A made 349rwhp/364rwtq on a dynojet in Hueytown last week and have the sheet to prove it. and the Vette and Camaro arent the only things GM has. they also have the CTS-V (Nurburgring record holder), the Cobalt turbo (another record holder), and a couple years back, the GTO. plenty to choose from.
@afgandominator the new 5.0 DOES NOT outperform the 6.2L..i think you meant to say was the new mustang 5.0 outperfomts the new camaro SS...in terms that the new maro is a fat ass..but the 6.2 makes 426 hp and 420ftlbs or tq....and the 5.0 makes 412 hp and 390 ftlbs of tq...and the 6.2 L only needed one cam to make that power..not FOUR..go do a cam swap on a 6.2 and it can net you an extra 90 RWHP and only cost maybe 400 bucks..same thing on the new 5.0 will cost you 1000....more CI = < potential
@afgandominator but man you do know the cobra R was a VERy VERY limited production car..more of a prototype that ford only made a few of..and how many 300+ RWHP mustangs are running around out there on the street?..do you know the old F bodes with the 3.8L V6 had 200hp and the stang GT had like 215hp at the time?..back around 96 and 97..a V6 camaro with only gears and headers would beat a stock GT.(i have seen it done a few times)...only fast stangs are the new 5.0's and the Termis..THATS IT
@ilovechevy1 all I hear is somebody still living in the 90's, GM's Camaro got beat by the 03-04 Terminator and it took them 8yrs to come back out with a new model Camaro anf just 1yr later Ford puts out another new stang to once again out perform the Camaro, YES TRUE the Camaro one a few battles in the 90's but mustangs have come a loooonnnnng way since then
@afgandominator wow you mean GM's camaro that was stopped in 2002 got beat by the 03-04 cobra!! ...yeah congrats on ford for making for making a car faster AFTER the camaro was haulted..but Termi Cobra VS Z28 ??..why compare 2 cars that where NEVER meant to be compared anyways?..the rightful matchup IS the Z28 VS the stang GT!!..in wich case..a fucking 98 camaro Z28 STILL runs faster qautermile times stock vs stock that a..get ready for it..a 2010 mustang GT!!!..after 13 years!!!
@ilovechevy1 Then what happened to GM when they can't beat the N/A 2011 "stang GT"? Why is the new SS that makes more power and has over a liter more is still three tenths of a second slower in the quarter? Not hating on anything or anyone but come on with the "had to add a s/c" excuse. Ford uses a s/c'd 4.6 and chevy uses huge n/a engines like the 6.2 and the 7.0. It's more than a fair game. There's always going to be something quicker. Stop hating, both Ford and GM make great cars.
@contagious6969 the reason to your first question is b/c GM created the new Camaro BEFORE the new 5.0 mustang came out. hence 2010 Camaro. and no, cubic inches do not make that big of a difference with today's technology. there are 2.0l imports running 9's in a 1/4 mile. so no, s/c vs. larger n/a isnt fair because with a s/c you can turn up the boost if needed. you cant turn up cubic inches. the only years that the mustang dominated were 03-04 and 2011 the '05-'10 is just another sad sack...
@deadeyedickification The 2011 Camaro has the same power so what's the difference? And cubic inches do matter. You can put bolts on on a n/a engine and gain just about the same as cobra owners do with a pulley swap (can't just turn up the boost and make crazy power with an inefficient blower) and bolt on's. Just different ways of building reliable power. And I have to disagree, the 07-11 Gt500's are dominating right now until the new z28 is released. Like I've said, both make great cars.
@contagious6969 the new SS is NOT 3 tenths of a second slower in the quatermile...this is all just new 5.0 hype..Motor Trend ran a 12.9 with the new camaro SS when comparing it again'st the GT500...a freaking 12.9 on a NON preped asphault with rocks on it...the fastest stock time recorded for the new 2011 5.0's is 12.6!! and that was on an actual DRAG STRIP ...dont you think that with a good driver on a preped drag strip..that a new SS could'nt drop another 3 tenths??..it's already been done
@ilovechevy1 I'm not looking at the fastest times that a couple of people have made under perfect conditions. I'm talking about how the SS runs average of 13.1-13.0 flat. The 5.0 on the other hand averages 12.7-12.8. So at best it's still two tenths of a second slower. Like I said, there's always going to be someone quicker. Ford just happens to be on top of the game for now. Both great cars but the horsepower wars will continue.
@contagious6969 i see where you are going with that but you cant' honestly tell me tho.. that you have'nt seen reviews of the new 5.0's with them running only 13.0-13.3's..cause i know i have..and i have seen the same for the new SS..but the manual versions only...since they come withh the LS3...and not the L99 400hp engine that the automatics have..if you take 2 good drivers and put a manual new 5.0 and a manual new SS...it's gona be a neck and neck race..i just wish the camaro weighed the same
@ilovechevy1 Yes I definitely agree. And hopefully the new camaro will lose some weight. It'd be one hell of a race if they weighed the same. I mean the manual camaros are already hurting the ls2 corvettes up to about 140mph. That's definitely an accomplishment. I guess we all will just have to wait and see, but I know the camaro forums have been asking for less weight. Hopefully GM will listen and do it.
@contagious6969 soo..you have a 2007 GT500 AND a Termi Cobra?...if so thats is mucho niiice!...go to my channel and check out my procharged 99 camaro SS..i got vids up before and after it was painted..it was silver and now it's black..got a couple vids up of me racing GT500's and Termi's and new 2011 5.0's and other various stuff
@ilovechevy1 I have quite a few cars right now an 07 gt500, an 06 e60 m5, an 06 hummer h3, and an 06 gto that I have racing my m5 in one of my vids. I replaced my 04 termi with this gt500 and hate it after me and my wife were t-boned by some dumb college bitch who totaled my car and sent my wife air lifted to the hospital. Your camaro is no slouch. I almost built a 2002 ss with an sts kit before I bought that termi. I love all cars but everyone around me seems to be Ford vs GM.
@ilovechevy1 Saw that you were running 11.3 1/4 times...that's damn impressive. Are you still running the stock motor? And what numbers is that car putting down. Btw, love the color change. My termi was black and so is my gt500. Love the color but hate the up keep on them. Any reason you picked the auto rather than the manual?
@contagious6969 well yeah..i love to drag race at the track..and altho i like manuals cause they are fun to drive..it's very hard to beat a built auto tranny with a stall and gears..it gets rid of driver error and you will run faster due to no power is wasted between shifts..they are instantanous in my built 4L60E..iit ran 11.3 before i done alot of modding recently..it should now be high 10's just have'nt been to the track
@contagious6969 since i ran the 11.3 i have goten my supercharge rebuilt (bearings where going out)..i went from 42 lb injectors to 60lbders..added an AEM water/methanol injection system..switched the stock LS1 intake out for a better flowing LS6 intake..and removed the EGR..and got it retuned..i went from 488RWHP to 520RWHP..if my car was a manual and not a stalled automatic i would have put down around 550 but the auto's with a stall absorb up alot of HP..it will run 10's t the track next time
@ilovechevy1 Nevertheless, it's a bad ass car. You should get to the track and see what your new setup can do. I personally like the manual to have fun, but most of my cars have been autos and I'm actually starting to prefer them. Not sure I'd want to meet your car on the road, it's got to be a beast. Have fun at the track and be safe.
@afgandominator and you do realize that if it was'nt for GM..then ford would still be feeding it's buyers PUSSY ass mustangs!!..in 2010 the new camaro was DECIMATING!!! the new 2010 GT...Ford had to up their game to beat the new camaro!!..and how long did ford allow the camaro to rape the mustangs?..LT1 Z28 was waaay faster from 93-97 than the stang GT..and it got even worse when GM made the LS1..epic ass rapage when racing the Z28 against the GT..ford had to add more cams or a S/C to compete
wtf? thats why the last 3 engines into my shop where from 2 cobras and a lightning... one had 3 cracked pistons and rods, the lightning had a crankshaft that broke in 3 places, and the other cobras valves in 2 cylinders sunk and the stems broke... the LS1's we get are to put stroker kits in... lol
Yea but its a sedan, and they knocked the horsepower down. It won't be too impressive, or at least I don't think it will be with less power and more weight.
I fucking hate it when people that win by half a car describe their videos with the word "OWNED". This video is the definition of OWNED! That Cobra didn't miss any shifts. It got raped plain and simple.
Okay... i dont know why you clowns are talking about Mach 1s... That was an 03 cobra in the video racing the camaro. And to ChocoTaco369... ford NEVER made a cobra in 2002... get your facts straight.
LS1 vs. Mach 1? my LT1 6 speed with exhaust, intake, gears, chip takes down most Mach 1's and pre '03-'04 Cobra's. I do LOVE the blown Cobra's but in this video he got OWNED by that SS. And man did that SS sound SEXY when it took off:)
Why are we talking about a mach 1? I mean how many variations of a Mustang does it take to lose to an ls1. If the mods are right, we are talking around a grand of mods to DESTROY a modded cobra.
oh god this great... i just have one thing to say to S197GTEric this ls1 pussy will walk circles around almost anything in the stl. im running mid 11's as of now but by summer i promise you ill be running mid 10's all day so any time you wanna race, gateway international...oh and a 500rwhp ls1 will murder a 500rwhp 03 cobra....
God I love how there is always so many excuses from ford guys. It doesnt matter if you win by a inch or a mile in this case, winning is winning. Ford Looses again.
ZR1vette: you are a dumbass..01 cobras dont have a supercharger, they are naturally aspirated at 320 hp. the pussy camaro has to use NOS to beat the 03 cobra haha put some NOS on the cobra and see who wins...You LS1 pussy
lol and the 03 cobra had to strap on a supercharger to beat the near past decade of fbody's, not even a gt has been good enough all those years it took a 32 valve engine to close the gap and a supercharger to surpass it. Show me an fbody that's not underrated in power and i'll show you where you can buy a nice bridge ; )
o ya but a camaro can take a stock for stock 01 cobra. Pussy?? Say that to a cobra cuz they had to put a supercharger on a mustang just to beat a N/A Camaro.
Although these cars are both 530whp cars, compare the dyno graphs from the Chevy to the Ford and and Chevy will build its power earlier and both of them probably top out at 530ish rwhp when the Ford catches up with an increase in boost.
Both are nice fast cars. And the bottle eventually runs out...
Although these cars are both 530whp cars, compare the dyno graphs from the Chevy to the Ford and and Chevy will build its power earlier and both of them probably top out at 530ish rwhp when the Ford catches up with an increase in boost.
Both are nice fast cars. And the bottle eventually runs out...
No doubt that camaro can move pretty good. Although nitrous and superchargers are both power adders, its like comparing apples to oranges. Nitrous is an INSTANT hit of power, where as the supercharger builds up boost with an increase of rpm.
back in the late 80's and early 90's Mustangs whooped on Camaro's you could not touch a 90 LX with a Iroc. So Chevy threw in a LS1 and a 6 speed to compete.
8 years later? A 3rd gen TPI was a great race for a 5.0 mustang in the early 90's. Then came the LT1, which destroyed any mustang on the road at the time. Then came the LS1, which to this day a naturally aspirated mustang still cannot beat. For all you guys whining about '03-'04 cobras - there wasn't an f-body made those years. The LAST mustang made to compete with an f-body was an '02 cobra, and an f-body will walk one stock for stock unless the driver REALLY sucks, as with anything.
I did some research on that and its not true they were both mid to high 14 sec cars but according to what i read the camaro was alittle quicker through most of those years especially if you ordered the 5.7ltr tpi. I was always told what you said so I looked it up
ZR1vette your stupid, an 01 cobra with its N/A DOHC 4.6L makes 320hp thats more than chevy's 5.7L LT1 and LS1, plus fords N/A DOHC 5.4L made 385hp thats about 70hp more than chevys 5.7L, face it chevy needed a Huge 7.0L just to feel safe against ford, they couldnt face the fact that the pre 05 vettes where getting their ass handed to them by 03 cobras stock vs stock a car not even built to compete against it.
COOLDBZ12- You are GAY... ford sucks they need super chargers just to make their tiny little motor run with the real muscle cars. The 5.4 needs a supercharger to make 385 hp but if you remember back in 1990 yeah 1990 the ZR1 vette.... 385hp and that was in 1990 haha... my point if you put a supercharger on the T/A camaro er vette you will have to do so much to your little pony to keep up... chevy is outa the box faster hahaha enough said ws6=325 stock 01 cobra w/supercharger 320 hp hahah
What the fuck are you saying get your facts straight fords 5.4 makes 385hp without a supercharger its makes 500hp with the supercharger (gt500) the 01 cobra doesnt have a superchager either you dipshit and it makes 320 GET THE FACTS IDIOT.
GT500 is the body style you Babytoucher... the 06 mustang 427R is 427hp, but not the GT500... and LS1's stock make 320hp and 340 ft/lbs... you have to look at it like this.. i know its hard for ford fans, but bare with me
2002 LS1 camaro vs 2002 mustang GT
2003 S/C cobra vs ZL1 camaro (naturally aspirated 600hp)
LOL. That would be like me saying there is a 5.8 Cobra R (back in 2001)that would smoke your Chevy Camaros. I believe it had 380HP. Or 600HP+Saleen that is going to be out next year. LOL. Limited production. LOL. That Saleen has a $79,999. Oh wait, It is in the Same league as the Z06. Someone will be getting Smoked.hahahaha
you ford guys... that saleen has a supercharger... if i supercharged the Z06, smoke your shit... have you heard of the LS9 ZR-1 corvette coming out?? 650hp on a warrantied engine.. even with a supercharger.. you could go aftermarket and make bout 750-800hp... we just got a cobra engine in my shop, teared it down and a valve was stuck in a piston... haha...
Here we go with the, "well if we put a supercharger on the Vette it will smoke Cobras" hahahaha. Let me make my argument. How about Corvette come down to a smaller Liter engine?? and add a back seat. LOL.
Please.lol. This is a never ending situation. All I know is when Engine size was even. Back in the late 80s 305 vs 302. Fords were smoking. LOL
ok, you still got your mullet 80's Dan?? jesus... Ford makes garbage... thats why GM is making more HP per cubic ft... your 4 valve shit... LSX's are just better... LS1 with a cam and intake and longtubes and a tune will smoke a cobra all for half what you paid for that cobra... fords need superchargers for power cause they did their best with cams and shit... all a ls1 needs is a cam and intake, and its already better! HAHA!!!
See there you go again. "LS1 with a cam and intake and longtubes and a tune will smoke a cobra all for half what you paid for that cobra" LOL. How much was a 2002 Camaro SS? UMMM 30-35k?. a 2003 Cobra? 33-37K? Hmm I think those extras thousands were worth it knowing that you will smoke an SS that easily. LOL. and of course I did not mention that all you need is a simple pully and a tune and bam another 100HP added to a stang. LOL. Get your head out of your ass bro!
LOL. Cant ignore the fact that when it was even Displacement. Chevys were getting smoked. Sorry. No pun intended. It will never be even until Displacements are even.
I thought the GT500 was supposed to be the "Z06 killer"? I think we all know how that worked out... I hate internet d*ck swinging contests but couldn't resist that.
dude a c5 z06 will beat a Terminator, They put a 7.0 in the new z06 to compete with EXOTICS!!! not P.O.S cobras that need a supercharger just to beat a ls1.
What?? A 99-04 GT has a 2v 4.6 while a 03-04 mach 1 has a 4v 4.6, A Gt also comes with 3:27s gears while the Mach comes with 3:55s, you do your research, Machs where underatted at 310hp, they dyno around 270-280 to the wheels thats around 325hp to the crank, a gt dynoes around 220hp, Machs have hit 13.1 Stock while the GTs are only capable of a 13.9 at best stock.YOU RESEARCH!
I think Chevrolet made the LS7 to take down Ferraris and Lamborghinis, and it has, that cost more than twice as much. The Ford GT cost about twice as much, and the Corvette can run with it too. Yea 01 320 hp Cobras get yanked by LS1s all the time. More horsepower obviously isn't what GM needs to beat Ford's shitty products.
Camaro walked away, Hate when they run NOS though, seems like such a cheap way to win but to each his own i guess
afgandominator 1 month ago
@afgandominator A supercharger would have been worse.
IDontHateOnCars 3 weeks ago
Ls power all the way!
GTPZX10R 2 months ago
@GTPZX10R more like "NOS" all the way
afgandominator 1 month ago
I must ask, did that mf not give u a go off the bottle?
IDontHateOnCars 2 months ago
DVST8OR !!!!!! has to be ... looks and sounds just like it. And is thee best sounding ls1 ever. everyone watch... Z O SICK vs Dvst8or , and tell me if you think it's the same car.
IDontHateOnCars 2 months ago
damn son...got that ass WALKED!!!
deadeyedickification 4 months ago
Damn it man u got walked!!!
Ranger2Fish 4 months ago
Both are great cars/motors. everyone loves the LS1. And the 4.6 in the cobra is probably the only ford motor i give respect to. great rides.
'98 Z28 M6
need2speed94 6 months ago
LSX engines LOVE spray.... Good run! What cam are you running?
DoggyB22 6 months ago
@DoggyB22 they love anything man, they can handle so much. I cant wait to put forged internals in mine to see how much boost it can hold.
need2speed94 6 months ago
lol ppl always bash ford when ford is smart at this game. give alittle and sell it make alot money. give alittle more make more money chevy well gm just fuckin retards they try to get rich over nite and now look they produce a worldwide spread of chevy fannie boys oh well to the chalk board we go ford im up for slaying these punk ass chevy boys up
turbo98gt 8 months ago
everyone has something to say about chevy making more hp then ford but do you realize that ford uses smaller engines and is making more/ just as much as chevy's bigger engines. funny how ford is producing 412hp with a 5.0 (which they could get more) and it took chevy a 6.2l to make 420ish....
2008saleen 8 months ago
@2008saleen and every ford guy brings up the bigger engine thing. It seems they either forget about the extra 3 cams they have stuffed in there, or they're to ignorant to understand how a motor works. a handful of cams and double the valves, more than makes up for a lack of cubes =)
Feenyxxx95 8 months ago
Talking bout big boys over there hahaha u must be tripn balls bro.. make it an even fight and then talk bout big boys lmfao!!!
WzeusS1 11 months ago
Hahaha u must feel proud of ur self, thinkn dis was evn a fair fight haha it took 150 shot to beat a teminator hahaha if it wernt for 03 ford coupe rear end, and a t56 ford tranny marros wouldn't be able hang hahahaxD
WzeusS1 11 months ago
@WzeusS1 A fair fight? What about the supercharger pushing 15 psi?
urbz28 10 months ago
@urbz28 supercharger on a 4.6l against the Camaros 5.7l w/150 shot!!, GM guys always crying about the supercharger, lol
afgandominator 9 months ago
150 SHOT!?!?!?! THAT BITCH BETTER HAVE RODE OUT
afgandominator 11 months ago
CAMAROS ARE UGLY AS SHIT, cOBRA ALL THE WAY
afgandominator 11 months ago
what 150 shot does
xBlAcKX0XMaGiCx 1 year ago
camaros have all these ls1 ls2 ls3 ls9 wtf........cobra still hangs with camaros even tho ford is the fucking ruler but camaros are 2nd in my book
96stang2Fst4U 1 year ago
Look at the silly Mustang trying to hang with the big boys...How cute hahaha
AZ2ENVY 1 year ago
ls1! <3
ThatSkaterKid93 1 year ago
Damn that LS powered camaro ripped shit up...
steelcityracer1320 1 year ago
holy shit that is a fast camaro
10spokess 1 year ago
ls9s may have 620hp, but the ford gt500 super snake has 750hp right off the floor
prddad1 1 year ago
@prddad1 And weighs 400,000,000 lbs. Dont get me wrong I love the SuperSnake and Gt500s but they are SO damn heavy.
Schalk3 1 year ago
That camaro is fast as shit!
uniondude31 1 year ago
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bluecapone 1 year ago
i love the whine of that blower. it's saying whhhyyy whhyy whhyy oooohh i lost.
tamapalagi 1 year ago
Wow that's a fast camaro
CamaroSS2236 1 year ago
damn why are their so many haters..i love mustangs but i got love for all american muscle crs..damn chevy win some ford win some..but in my opinion(which has nothing to do with my love for ford but based on pure statistics)ford is winning the pony car race as of july 2010..the 2011 mustang has put ford over the top..hopefully chevy comes out with something that weighs less but until then ford is numero UNO
NAJEE52 1 year ago
nice camaro i guess...even though it was going up against a pretty much stock cobra,.........if u throw a kenne bell mammoth kit on the cobra the outcome would b very different.........and before all u gm guys bash me and say "yea well throw a supercharger on the maro and c what happens!!" ...lol bro its a 4.6 agains a 5.7, thats why theres a blower, to make up for the lost cubic inches!!!! and in my opinion if the maro doesnt use the juice its just as slow as all the other maros out there!!!
afgandominator 1 year ago
@afgandominator 4.6 with 32 valves and 4 cams with sustained volumetric effiiency at 95 to over 100% due to forced induction vs a 5.7 with 16 valves and 1 cam with volumetric effiiciency at best 85-90% sustained at best 80-85% due to natural aspiration. Don't forget that part car guy... cuz We gunna c wut happenz am I rite?
Feenyxxx95 1 year ago
@Feenyxxx95 so pretty much what ur saying is.....Fords much smaller engine is built much much better in the fact that it has 32valves, 4 cams, forced induction, lol thanx for pointing all that out "car guy" why the heck would anybody wanna buy a gm motor with only 16 valves and 1 cam, lol just sayen
afgandominator 1 year ago
@afgandominator no actually I was filling in the holes in your typical "4.6 vs 5.7" argument. The LSx series of motors are unlike anything else in the performance world right now, because nobody has done what gm has done with pushrods from the factory. Both Fords 4.6 and gms ls1 are great motors. As I said I was filling in the holes in your very flawed "4.6 vs 5.7" engine size argument. Theres alot in that "little" 4.6 making up for those "lost" cubes outside a blower.
Feenyxxx95 1 year ago
@Feenyxxx95 i understand where ur coming from guy, i shouldnt even b talking shit to tell u the truth lol i love ford and drive a supercharged roush, but i would take a chevy anyday, well i mean i would take a corvette anyday, im not a big camaro fan, the new ones are alright but the older ones are just plain ugly, but when it comes down to it, Ford and GM are both great american companies...fuck the ricers!!
afgandominator 1 year ago
@afgandominator indeed I have love for both as well. Im pretty much the same as far as the camaro goes. Not to big on its styling, I drive a trans am myself but love the vette. Also because I was once a hardcore ford fan, I still to this day, after 9 years, have this weird relationship with the camaro to where I'll probably never own one lol. Even though I root for it whenever its heads up with something that doesn't have an LSx motor =/,, weird I know.
Feenyxxx95 1 year ago
@Feenyxxx95 damn lol from what u just said ,..it seems that FORD has the better motor by FARRRRRRRR
afgandominator 9 months ago
@afgandominator why because it can sustain high efficiency because of the blower lol? you must have not read what I said. I wasn't implying either motor was better, but you can't translate anything I said to ford having the better motor. the ls series Did something ford never ever did with the traditional small block from the factory. LS1 vs GT40 5.0? And im not talking about power output only. Design itself. Buddy's firehawk got 32mpg from houston to ohio while putting down 323 rwhp stock.
Feenyxxx95 8 months ago
@Feenyxxx95 true that brotha
afgandominator 8 months ago
haha love the bow tie
Strongtube68 1 year ago
i new that was gone happen just aport n he gt a 150 shot u had no chance at all 550 vs maby 500 gas is instant u gt 2 gt 2 certain rpms gt asafe injection a least then it might b a race
cobra2004t 2 years ago
once again a mustang loses
02camarosst 2 years ago
spinnin n shit
ls1rook 2 years ago
put buses on his ass
347pony 2 years ago
Jesus
CoolAidGTO 2 years ago
correct. I believe the best all stock Cobra pass is 12.4 at around 113. I went 12.9 at 109 stock in my M6 LS2 GTO. One day I'd like to have a Cobra as well
westy44cal 2 years ago
What exhaust on the SS? I'm guessing GMMG?
k0261886 2 years ago
About 10 trains lol
mikeel23 3 years ago
OMG how many trains was that lol
meresingoenti 3 years ago
holy shit man thats nice spanking that cobra
UnikImpulse 3 years ago 2
LS Engines are just built To take HP
GarrettGiuffre 3 years ago 2
oh god its a "what if" contest...i HATE that..this perticular SS happend to ASSRAPE that perticular kobra...happens all the time...leave it at that!!!
santaanaspeed 3 years ago
and he got the car for $13k 4 years ago its just a matter of $1500 bucks and the ls1 gets over 600whp easily...you don't really wanna see wat a 470whp ls1 would do to a 500whp ford...Rip it apart...no offense lol...been there
meresingoenti 3 years ago 8
@meresingoenti I hear that man
Chevymonster203 11 months ago
yea or you can do wat my cousin did to his ls1 trans am...bought a turbo T70 got it for $500,an external wastegate $300,intercooler $180, got injectors for $100 like the cobras the blue ones,walbro 255 fuel pump $99, made a return line with the same lines the car has, and made the pipes himself so let's say $1500 bucks total...6psi 390whp/440torque ,Z06 heads forged pistons 11psi 620whp on pump gas,waiting on bigger injectors to see wat 17psi can do on an ls1
meresingoenti 3 years ago
that was not a lil bit quicker that was a lot quicker and the cobra's SC wont sound so loud stock
meresingoenti 3 years ago
is that camaro racing a bycicle lmao or pretty much the same lol its a slowbra
meresingoenti 3 years ago
How do u get da back part of the camaro black? is it painted or is the panel changed out?
jvpwtf69 4 years ago
it's the Berger panel mod....painted most likely
studballs 3 years ago
smoked, i love it
1998camaross 4 years ago
Ford sucks and I'm sticking to it!
Dirty30LS1 4 years ago
omg i blew my load as soon as that camaro took off....holy shit
danetp 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
the z06 doesnt even have that much power because it has the ls9 or whatever and thats a huge engine and it doesnt even produce alot of hp chevy is a piece of shit ford all the fucking way besides everybody is entitled to their own opinion right!
fishypony 4 years ago
wow, you have no idea WTF your talking about.
run353 4 years ago 2
LS9s will have at least 620 hp. Is ford even close? Nope never will be.
tamapalagi 4 years ago 7
@tamapalagi thats why the Camaro flopped in 02 and took like 8 years to bring back, while the Mustang never stopped production since the 60s? And thats why Ford has sold alot more Mustangs then Camaros, right? And thats why even the new SS loses to the new GT, right? Ford came first and always will be first. You can argue all you want but look at the sales numbers and the stock vs stock races, thats the real proof.
iGOTCHOPPERS1 1 year ago
@iGOTCHOPPERS1 I'll cut you some slack since you sport the eagle,globe and anchor. Mustang never had to share the market within it's own division. Camaro had to deal with trans ams and corvettes. V6 mustangs sold more than V8s and those were bought by females. Females like mustangs better than camaros because they are easier to get into while wearing dresses.
tamapalagi 1 year ago
@tamapalagi Shelby SSC aero - 1200hp. Saleen S7 TT - 750hp.
Is chevy even close?
nope never will be.
DrSloer 1 year ago
@DrSloer there are a dozen cars that are better than the mustang and camaro. in this video the mustang lost. as a whole the mustang will never be as good as the camaro,corvette,m5.LFA,911. At least GM has a few that can claim a spot with the ferraris and bugattis. The LS9 corvette,cstv caddy and if it ever comes the new z28.
tamapalagi 1 year ago
@tamapalagi - Find me one for under $10000 that's better.
CamaroSS2236 1 year ago
@CamaroSS2236 $10,000? Do you mean $100,000?
tamapalagi 1 year ago
My LS1 Camaro was $5,000 and I put $4000 into it. It is now faster than a Cobra without having to go into the $20,000+ Range like porches and all that.
CamaroSS2236 1 year ago
@CamaroSS2236 most people will agree that dollar for dollar chevies will always be faster than other brands. there are other asspects of a car besides speed that makes it great. my friend has a lexus 430gs and that is an awesome car. it's fast but not the fastest but the quality and the sound system are great. It's a pricey car but it isworth the money if that's what you're looking for. ford guys have nothing to hang their hats on but the mustang so give them a mulligan for only having one car .
tamapalagi 1 year ago
@tamapalagi you forget that ford has a car called the ford gt aka ford gt40 .The ford gt was made to beat ferraris in the 24 le mans and im sure that the ford gt is in the same class as a vett .Also the new camaros are junk a big boat that why car and driver has the ford mustang gt as #1 over the camaro ss (SUPER SLOW)and the challenger srt8 so the top of the line vs base the mustang wins .I give you that gm has more high in class cars then ford but ford is not that far off
peanut4918 1 year ago
@peanut4918 that is ancient history. 40 plus years ago. how is the ss slow when it is 2 tenths a second slower than the gt500 in the 1/4 mile?
tamapalagi 1 year ago
@tamapalagi how is that ancient history they made the ford gt also in 2006 so you stated ( ford guys have nothing to hang their hats on but the mustang so give them a mulligan for only having one car .)i never said the mustang is faster then a ss all i said was CAR AND DRIVER rate the mustang gt on top of the camaro ss and the srt8 challenger (mustang gt being a base vs the SS and the SRT8)and yes us ford fan can rest our hats on the mustang never leaving like the camaro did
peanut4918 1 year ago
@tamapalagi how is that ancient history they made the ford gt also in 2006 so you stated ( ford guys have nothing to hang their hats on but the mustang so give them a mulligan for only having one car .)i never said the mustang is faster then a ss all i said was CAR AND DRIVER rate the mustang gt on top of the camaro ss and the srt8 challenger (mustang gt being a base vs the SS and the SRT8)and yes us ford fan can rest our hats on the mustang never leaving like the camaro did .
peanut4918 1 year ago
@DrSloer
Go ahead and list the price tags on those cars while your talkin about them buddy.... I have seen a ton of chevys rolling around that were mentioned, how many of these cars are rolling around? Not very many, try again. Should I list that the cars you mentioned are also not made by ford? Saleen and Shelby aren't ford, they are the reason ford has some fast cars though, lol. But both those cars are hyper cars, and will damn near never be seen on the street. Like I said, try again, buddy.
Blazeofsolo 1 year ago
@tamapalagi 3yrs ago, things have changed now, FORD RULES
afgandominator 11 months ago
@afgandominator yea they rule. and it only took them 30+ years to figure the mustang out lol. first time in history they were able to produce a mustang that makes over 300rwhp from the factory w/o boost. im glad im not a ford guy cuz all they have is the mustang. so sad....
deadeyedickification 9 months ago
@deadeyedickification Im confused, 30+yrs to make a N/A motor that pushes over 300rwhp? What about the Cobra R? 5.4l 385hp? Ford can produce what ever they want to produce, they never went out of business like GM, seems to me ford is doing something right, if ford wants to beat GM they easily can, 03-04 Cobra, made to destroy the Camaro, GM comes out with new Camaro, Ford comes right back with the new 5.0 "N/A" and it now stomps the Camaro, yes GM has the Vette, buuuuut seems thats all they have
afgandominator 9 months ago
@afgandominator ill be man enough to admit i forgot about the Cobra R BUT they were a one-time deal and only meant to road race. and the '03-'04 cobra? yea its boosted guy. id hate to imagine what shame GM would have put on Ford if they built a supercharged/forged f-body. it'd be '93-'02 all over again. look i dont hate Ford, just the mustang. even then its just owners i cant stand. mustang owners didnt have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of until the '03 Cobra. these are facts.
deadeyedickification 9 months ago
@deadeyedickification yes FORD has the smaller displacement motors and they boost them, so what? Im sure if they built huge ass 5.7 - 7.0l motors they would be N/A as well, u may hate the mustang buut they have stepped up there game since the 03-04 Cobra was introduced, only thing GM has better is the Vette which isnt even in same class, from 03-2011 Fords "mustang" has been pretty damn impressive, now they have the N/A 5.0 that out preforms the Camaro's 6.2l, GM guys still living in the 90's
afgandominator 9 months ago
@afgandominator eh, actually the only mustang after the '03-'04 cobra that's impressive is the new one. the one in between is a sad sack. head/cams combinations only net you ~350-360rwhp. my 130K mile T/A made 349rwhp/364rwtq on a dynojet in Hueytown last week and have the sheet to prove it. and the Vette and Camaro arent the only things GM has. they also have the CTS-V (Nurburgring record holder), the Cobalt turbo (another record holder), and a couple years back, the GTO. plenty to choose from.
deadeyedickification 9 months ago
@afgandominator the new 5.0 DOES NOT outperform the 6.2L..i think you meant to say was the new mustang 5.0 outperfomts the new camaro SS...in terms that the new maro is a fat ass..but the 6.2 makes 426 hp and 420ftlbs or tq....and the 5.0 makes 412 hp and 390 ftlbs of tq...and the 6.2 L only needed one cam to make that power..not FOUR..go do a cam swap on a 6.2 and it can net you an extra 90 RWHP and only cost maybe 400 bucks..same thing on the new 5.0 will cost you 1000....more CI = < potential
ilovechevy1 9 months ago
@afgandominator but man you do know the cobra R was a VERy VERY limited production car..more of a prototype that ford only made a few of..and how many 300+ RWHP mustangs are running around out there on the street?..do you know the old F bodes with the 3.8L V6 had 200hp and the stang GT had like 215hp at the time?..back around 96 and 97..a V6 camaro with only gears and headers would beat a stock GT.(i have seen it done a few times)...only fast stangs are the new 5.0's and the Termis..THATS IT
ilovechevy1 9 months ago
@ilovechevy1 all I hear is somebody still living in the 90's, GM's Camaro got beat by the 03-04 Terminator and it took them 8yrs to come back out with a new model Camaro anf just 1yr later Ford puts out another new stang to once again out perform the Camaro, YES TRUE the Camaro one a few battles in the 90's but mustangs have come a loooonnnnng way since then
afgandominator 9 months ago
@afgandominator wow you mean GM's camaro that was stopped in 2002 got beat by the 03-04 cobra!! ...yeah congrats on ford for making for making a car faster AFTER the camaro was haulted..but Termi Cobra VS Z28 ??..why compare 2 cars that where NEVER meant to be compared anyways?..the rightful matchup IS the Z28 VS the stang GT!!..in wich case..a fucking 98 camaro Z28 STILL runs faster qautermile times stock vs stock that a..get ready for it..a 2010 mustang GT!!!..after 13 years!!!
ilovechevy1 9 months ago
@ilovechevy1 Then what happened to GM when they can't beat the N/A 2011 "stang GT"? Why is the new SS that makes more power and has over a liter more is still three tenths of a second slower in the quarter? Not hating on anything or anyone but come on with the "had to add a s/c" excuse. Ford uses a s/c'd 4.6 and chevy uses huge n/a engines like the 6.2 and the 7.0. It's more than a fair game. There's always going to be something quicker. Stop hating, both Ford and GM make great cars.
contagious6969 8 months ago
@contagious6969 the reason to your first question is b/c GM created the new Camaro BEFORE the new 5.0 mustang came out. hence 2010 Camaro. and no, cubic inches do not make that big of a difference with today's technology. there are 2.0l imports running 9's in a 1/4 mile. so no, s/c vs. larger n/a isnt fair because with a s/c you can turn up the boost if needed. you cant turn up cubic inches. the only years that the mustang dominated were 03-04 and 2011 the '05-'10 is just another sad sack...
deadeyedickification 8 months ago
@deadeyedickification The 2011 Camaro has the same power so what's the difference? And cubic inches do matter. You can put bolts on on a n/a engine and gain just about the same as cobra owners do with a pulley swap (can't just turn up the boost and make crazy power with an inefficient blower) and bolt on's. Just different ways of building reliable power. And I have to disagree, the 07-11 Gt500's are dominating right now until the new z28 is released. Like I've said, both make great cars.
contagious6969 8 months ago
@contagious6969 the new SS is NOT 3 tenths of a second slower in the quatermile...this is all just new 5.0 hype..Motor Trend ran a 12.9 with the new camaro SS when comparing it again'st the GT500...a freaking 12.9 on a NON preped asphault with rocks on it...the fastest stock time recorded for the new 2011 5.0's is 12.6!! and that was on an actual DRAG STRIP ...dont you think that with a good driver on a preped drag strip..that a new SS could'nt drop another 3 tenths??..it's already been done
ilovechevy1 8 months ago
@ilovechevy1 I'm not looking at the fastest times that a couple of people have made under perfect conditions. I'm talking about how the SS runs average of 13.1-13.0 flat. The 5.0 on the other hand averages 12.7-12.8. So at best it's still two tenths of a second slower. Like I said, there's always going to be someone quicker. Ford just happens to be on top of the game for now. Both great cars but the horsepower wars will continue.
contagious6969 8 months ago
@contagious6969 i see where you are going with that but you cant' honestly tell me tho.. that you have'nt seen reviews of the new 5.0's with them running only 13.0-13.3's..cause i know i have..and i have seen the same for the new SS..but the manual versions only...since they come withh the LS3...and not the L99 400hp engine that the automatics have..if you take 2 good drivers and put a manual new 5.0 and a manual new SS...it's gona be a neck and neck race..i just wish the camaro weighed the same
ilovechevy1 8 months ago
@ilovechevy1 Yes I definitely agree. And hopefully the new camaro will lose some weight. It'd be one hell of a race if they weighed the same. I mean the manual camaros are already hurting the ls2 corvettes up to about 140mph. That's definitely an accomplishment. I guess we all will just have to wait and see, but I know the camaro forums have been asking for less weight. Hopefully GM will listen and do it.
contagious6969 8 months ago
@contagious6969 soo..you have a 2007 GT500 AND a Termi Cobra?...if so thats is mucho niiice!...go to my channel and check out my procharged 99 camaro SS..i got vids up before and after it was painted..it was silver and now it's black..got a couple vids up of me racing GT500's and Termi's and new 2011 5.0's and other various stuff
ilovechevy1 8 months ago
@ilovechevy1 I have quite a few cars right now an 07 gt500, an 06 e60 m5, an 06 hummer h3, and an 06 gto that I have racing my m5 in one of my vids. I replaced my 04 termi with this gt500 and hate it after me and my wife were t-boned by some dumb college bitch who totaled my car and sent my wife air lifted to the hospital. Your camaro is no slouch. I almost built a 2002 ss with an sts kit before I bought that termi. I love all cars but everyone around me seems to be Ford vs GM.
contagious6969 8 months ago
@ilovechevy1 Saw that you were running 11.3 1/4 times...that's damn impressive. Are you still running the stock motor? And what numbers is that car putting down. Btw, love the color change. My termi was black and so is my gt500. Love the color but hate the up keep on them. Any reason you picked the auto rather than the manual?
contagious6969 8 months ago
@contagious6969 well yeah..i love to drag race at the track..and altho i like manuals cause they are fun to drive..it's very hard to beat a built auto tranny with a stall and gears..it gets rid of driver error and you will run faster due to no power is wasted between shifts..they are instantanous in my built 4L60E..iit ran 11.3 before i done alot of modding recently..it should now be high 10's just have'nt been to the track
ilovechevy1 8 months ago
@contagious6969 since i ran the 11.3 i have goten my supercharge rebuilt (bearings where going out)..i went from 42 lb injectors to 60lbders..added an AEM water/methanol injection system..switched the stock LS1 intake out for a better flowing LS6 intake..and removed the EGR..and got it retuned..i went from 488RWHP to 520RWHP..if my car was a manual and not a stalled automatic i would have put down around 550 but the auto's with a stall absorb up alot of HP..it will run 10's t the track next time
ilovechevy1 8 months ago
@ilovechevy1 Nevertheless, it's a bad ass car. You should get to the track and see what your new setup can do. I personally like the manual to have fun, but most of my cars have been autos and I'm actually starting to prefer them. Not sure I'd want to meet your car on the road, it's got to be a beast. Have fun at the track and be safe.
contagious6969 8 months ago
@afgandominator and you do realize that if it was'nt for GM..then ford would still be feeding it's buyers PUSSY ass mustangs!!..in 2010 the new camaro was DECIMATING!!! the new 2010 GT...Ford had to up their game to beat the new camaro!!..and how long did ford allow the camaro to rape the mustangs?..LT1 Z28 was waaay faster from 93-97 than the stang GT..and it got even worse when GM made the LS1..epic ass rapage when racing the Z28 against the GT..ford had to add more cams or a S/C to compete
ilovechevy1 9 months ago
Yes, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. But, your opinion somehow happens to be wrong.
LOL
manindermaninder 4 years ago
wtf? thats why the last 3 engines into my shop where from 2 cobras and a lightning... one had 3 cracked pistons and rods, the lightning had a crankshaft that broke in 3 places, and the other cobras valves in 2 cylinders sunk and the stems broke... the LS1's we get are to put stroker kits in... lol
nathanblakeslee 4 years ago
Would be more impressive if the SS wasn't sqeezing. Also: urbZ28: they still make the GTO; it's just called the G8 now (in America).
duraiden 4 years ago
Yea but its a sedan, and they knocked the horsepower down. It won't be too impressive, or at least I don't think it will be with less power and more weight.
urbz28 4 years ago
It's less powerful in the U.S. now? Hell, I thought they were getting a _more_ powerful version in Europe...
duraiden 4 years ago
I fucking hate it when people that win by half a car describe their videos with the word "OWNED". This video is the definition of OWNED! That Cobra didn't miss any shifts. It got raped plain and simple.
urbz28 4 years ago
You can say all you want, but the camaro beat the stang in this video.
vettefreak90 4 years ago
That camaro sounds fucking sick!!
505zombie 4 years ago
haha cobra musta missed a shift.. bullshit.. that camaro burnt that cobra..lol
Andy1396003 4 years ago
cobras are garbage... thats the end of it...
nathanblakeslee 4 years ago
cobra lost shift
eltimio 4 years ago
Yeah that must be it....idiot...
run353 4 years ago
Okay... i dont know why you clowns are talking about Mach 1s... That was an 03 cobra in the video racing the camaro. And to ChocoTaco369... ford NEVER made a cobra in 2002... get your facts straight.
Joker675 4 years ago
the ss sounds frikin amazing ... combine that with the whine of the terminator and you need a change of boxers.
thumpthumper 4 years ago
lol
manindermaninder 4 years ago
LS1 vs. Mach 1? my LT1 6 speed with exhaust, intake, gears, chip takes down most Mach 1's and pre '03-'04 Cobra's. I do LOVE the blown Cobra's but in this video he got OWNED by that SS. And man did that SS sound SEXY when it took off:)
Camaroguy00 4 years ago
You Mustang guys can make up excuses all day long, but the fact is that terminator GOT BLOWN!!!!!!!
N20LT4 4 years ago
Why are we talking about a mach 1? I mean how many variations of a Mustang does it take to lose to an ls1. If the mods are right, we are talking around a grand of mods to DESTROY a modded cobra.
zfire20 5 years ago
FBody > Mustang
dirkthedaring707 5 years ago
yeah S197GTEric is a dumbass...ford sux that pretty much says everything...f.o.r.d.= found on road dead....
aileene87 5 years ago
oh god this great... i just have one thing to say to S197GTEric this ls1 pussy will walk circles around almost anything in the stl. im running mid 11's as of now but by summer i promise you ill be running mid 10's all day so any time you wanna race, gateway international...oh and a 500rwhp ls1 will murder a 500rwhp 03 cobra....
1bad402 5 years ago
God I love how there is always so many excuses from ford guys. It doesnt matter if you win by a inch or a mile in this case, winning is winning. Ford Looses again.
burnham187 5 years ago
ZR1vette: you are a dumbass..01 cobras dont have a supercharger, they are naturally aspirated at 320 hp. the pussy camaro has to use NOS to beat the 03 cobra haha put some NOS on the cobra and see who wins...You LS1 pussy
S197GTEric 5 years ago
lol and the 03 cobra had to strap on a supercharger to beat the near past decade of fbody's, not even a gt has been good enough all those years it took a 32 valve engine to close the gap and a supercharger to surpass it. Show me an fbody that's not underrated in power and i'll show you where you can buy a nice bridge ; )
fresnostatechris 5 years ago
o ya but a camaro can take a stock for stock 01 cobra. Pussy?? Say that to a cobra cuz they had to put a supercharger on a mustang just to beat a N/A Camaro.
embarqdo 5 years ago
Although these cars are both 530whp cars, compare the dyno graphs from the Chevy to the Ford and and Chevy will build its power earlier and both of them probably top out at 530ish rwhp when the Ford catches up with an increase in boost.
Both are nice fast cars. And the bottle eventually runs out...
pgreenballs 5 years ago
Although these cars are both 530whp cars, compare the dyno graphs from the Chevy to the Ford and and Chevy will build its power earlier and both of them probably top out at 530ish rwhp when the Ford catches up with an increase in boost.
Both are nice fast cars. And the bottle eventually runs out...
pgreenballs 5 years ago
No doubt that camaro can move pretty good. Although nitrous and superchargers are both power adders, its like comparing apples to oranges. Nitrous is an INSTANT hit of power, where as the supercharger builds up boost with an increase of rpm.
pgreenballs 5 years ago
cobra owners and their cars have one thing in common. they both WHINE.
kraze1144 5 years ago
back in the late 80's and early 90's Mustangs whooped on Camaro's you could not touch a 90 LX with a Iroc. So Chevy threw in a LS1 and a 6 speed to compete.
cafeevil 5 years ago
8 years later? A 3rd gen TPI was a great race for a 5.0 mustang in the early 90's. Then came the LT1, which destroyed any mustang on the road at the time. Then came the LS1, which to this day a naturally aspirated mustang still cannot beat. For all you guys whining about '03-'04 cobras - there wasn't an f-body made those years. The LAST mustang made to compete with an f-body was an '02 cobra, and an f-body will walk one stock for stock unless the driver REALLY sucks, as with anything.
ChocoTaco369 4 years ago
Yea..... A driver would have to blow big time for a N/A LS1 to lose to a N/A 4.6
urbz28 4 years ago
I did some research on that and its not true they were both mid to high 14 sec cars but according to what i read the camaro was alittle quicker through most of those years especially if you ordered the 5.7ltr tpi. I was always told what you said so I looked it up
jimdoza 3 years ago
Stock LS1 Camaros are capable of running mid to high 13s at the very least.
urbz28 3 years ago
ZR1vette your stupid, an 01 cobra with its N/A DOHC 4.6L makes 320hp thats more than chevy's 5.7L LT1 and LS1, plus fords N/A DOHC 5.4L made 385hp thats about 70hp more than chevys 5.7L, face it chevy needed a Huge 7.0L just to feel safe against ford, they couldnt face the fact that the pre 05 vettes where getting their ass handed to them by 03 cobras stock vs stock a car not even built to compete against it.
cooldbz12 5 years ago
COOLDBZ12- You are GAY... ford sucks they need super chargers just to make their tiny little motor run with the real muscle cars. The 5.4 needs a supercharger to make 385 hp but if you remember back in 1990 yeah 1990 the ZR1 vette.... 385hp and that was in 1990 haha... my point if you put a supercharger on the T/A camaro er vette you will have to do so much to your little pony to keep up... chevy is outa the box faster hahaha enough said ws6=325 stock 01 cobra w/supercharger 320 hp hahah
ZR1vette 5 years ago
What the fuck are you saying get your facts straight fords 5.4 makes 385hp without a supercharger its makes 500hp with the supercharger (gt500) the 01 cobra doesnt have a superchager either you dipshit and it makes 320 GET THE FACTS IDIOT.
cooldbz12 5 years ago
GT500 is the body style you Babytoucher... the 06 mustang 427R is 427hp, but not the GT500... and LS1's stock make 320hp and 340 ft/lbs... you have to look at it like this.. i know its hard for ford fans, but bare with me
2002 LS1 camaro vs 2002 mustang GT
2003 S/C cobra vs ZL1 camaro (naturally aspirated 600hp)
nathanblakeslee 4 years ago
How many ZL1 camaros do you see on the street??? I don't see any.
93SuperChargedStang 4 years ago
I've seen a few... and its not hard to turn a camaro into one i got a 93 LT1, i can buy a LS7 with a cam and exhaust BOOM ZL1... hahaha
nathanblakeslee 4 years ago
Sorry bro. Never seen one FROM Factory.
93SuperChargedStang 4 years ago
ok, that doesn't mean that they are not around.. and it doesn't matter.. it was still a factory package.
nathanblakeslee 4 years ago
LOL. That would be like me saying there is a 5.8 Cobra R (back in 2001)that would smoke your Chevy Camaros. I believe it had 380HP. Or 600HP+Saleen that is going to be out next year. LOL. Limited production. LOL. That Saleen has a $79,999. Oh wait, It is in the Same league as the Z06. Someone will be getting Smoked.hahahaha
93SuperChargedStang 4 years ago
you ford guys... that saleen has a supercharger... if i supercharged the Z06, smoke your shit... have you heard of the LS9 ZR-1 corvette coming out?? 650hp on a warrantied engine.. even with a supercharger.. you could go aftermarket and make bout 750-800hp... we just got a cobra engine in my shop, teared it down and a valve was stuck in a piston... haha...
nathanblakeslee 4 years ago
Here we go with the, "well if we put a supercharger on the Vette it will smoke Cobras" hahahaha. Let me make my argument. How about Corvette come down to a smaller Liter engine?? and add a back seat. LOL.
Please.lol. This is a never ending situation. All I know is when Engine size was even. Back in the late 80s 305 vs 302. Fords were smoking. LOL
93SuperChargedStang 4 years ago
ok, you still got your mullet 80's Dan?? jesus... Ford makes garbage... thats why GM is making more HP per cubic ft... your 4 valve shit... LSX's are just better... LS1 with a cam and intake and longtubes and a tune will smoke a cobra all for half what you paid for that cobra... fords need superchargers for power cause they did their best with cams and shit... all a ls1 needs is a cam and intake, and its already better! HAHA!!!
nathanblakeslee 4 years ago
See there you go again. "LS1 with a cam and intake and longtubes and a tune will smoke a cobra all for half what you paid for that cobra" LOL. How much was a 2002 Camaro SS? UMMM 30-35k?. a 2003 Cobra? 33-37K? Hmm I think those extras thousands were worth it knowing that you will smoke an SS that easily. LOL. and of course I did not mention that all you need is a simple pully and a tune and bam another 100HP added to a stang. LOL. Get your head out of your ass bro!
93SuperChargedStang 4 years ago
LOL. Cant ignore the fact that when it was even Displacement. Chevys were getting smoked. Sorry. No pun intended. It will never be even until Displacements are even.
93SuperChargedStang 4 years ago
I thought the GT500 was supposed to be the "Z06 killer"? I think we all know how that worked out... I hate internet d*ck swinging contests but couldn't resist that.
Tecknique207 4 years ago
That would be the GT500KR. 700hp+ That one is a is the Z06 Killer. The GT500 is Corvette Killer. Not a Z06 killer.
93SuperChargedStang 4 years ago
haha thankyou!!
danetp 4 years ago
the gt500 has a whole lotta power but still runs 13's?!!?! whats up with that..i think that the gt500 should stick to racing c5 ls1 stock vettes
manindermaninder 4 years ago
dude a c5 z06 will beat a Terminator, They put a 7.0 in the new z06 to compete with EXOTICS!!! not P.O.S cobras that need a supercharger just to beat a ls1.
embarqdo 5 years ago
Stock vs Stock a Mach 1 can come on top against a LS1 and its not supercharged just a little 4.6 taking care of a legendary 5.7L Ls1.
cooldbz12 5 years ago
pretty much a drivers race if u ask me. It would be a real tight race stock for stock.
embarqdo 5 years ago
i mean a mach vs a ls1
embarqdo 5 years ago
dude, do ur research, it cant, the only thing a mach 1 has performance-wise that the gt doesnt is the shaker set up
manindermaninder 4 years ago
What?? A 99-04 GT has a 2v 4.6 while a 03-04 mach 1 has a 4v 4.6, A Gt also comes with 3:27s gears while the Mach comes with 3:55s, you do your research, Machs where underatted at 310hp, they dyno around 270-280 to the wheels thats around 325hp to the crank, a gt dynoes around 220hp, Machs have hit 13.1 Stock while the GTs are only capable of a 13.9 at best stock.YOU RESEARCH!
cooldbz12 4 years ago
uh no, they're rated at 305 hp, and i got that from doing research right now
manindermaninder 4 years ago
Autos where rated at 305 5-speeds at 310 ;)
cooldbz12 4 years ago
ohhhh i didnt know that. well i guess you win lol
manindermaninder 4 years ago
I think Chevrolet made the LS7 to take down Ferraris and Lamborghinis, and it has, that cost more than twice as much. The Ford GT cost about twice as much, and the Corvette can run with it too. Yea 01 320 hp Cobras get yanked by LS1s all the time. More horsepower obviously isn't what GM needs to beat Ford's shitty products.
urbz28 4 years ago