@skrason Dr. RON PAUL is my vote. He's the only one to say STOP THE WARS. I believe his words. he's no shill and no BS talker. Personal responsibility, community, family... I guess I've become more libertarian than either of the extreme alt's.
@phillisthebarbarian He may have good ideas, but his comments regarding our constitution are suspect. Letting states choose our rights? That's what the fundamentalist christians want and they help banoll and lobb for the right wing republicans who put us int his mess to begin with. Our rights are a federal issue, they always have been. The US constitution applies to all states, and no one gets to pick and choose.
@rmcdaniel423 Ron Paul is about the only true libertarian left, but the rest of conservatives are more into big government to push their agenda. They say small government, but they force people to do stuff in order to comply with conservative views. They are only small government with it comes to their corporate interest buddies.
I don't think democrats are great, but as always they turn out to be the lesser of two evils.
@eedobee You do know Libertarian are conservatives right? Just making sure. Because it seems like you have no idea what is a libertarian when you talk. Every conservative now sell themselves as libertarian when they are authoritarian conservatives.
Also btw I am more on the progressive/liberal side, so you probably need to define your comment first.
I hope you did not confuse libertarian with liberals, since that is simply clueless. Liberal is not a dirty word.
@Neosaigo A government doesn't have to be "big" (i.e. full of social programs, bureaucracy, high taxation, etc.) to be authoritarian. If it's main function is to punish, and not to do other, non-punitive things that (possibly) assist citizens, as conservatives view it, it's forceful and authoritarian by definition. As Gingrich said, "the government is not supposed to be your friend."
I love it how Bill Maher is still delusional that Obama actually works for the people. Obama is doing his job perfectly for David Rockefeller. Change...that was a joke!
@kromed01 The Rockefellers in the Republican party seem to disagree. It's hard to see him as a corporate lackey when he's constantly labeled by corporate lackeys as a "socialist" or with more extreme rhetoric.
@gyniest He is anything but a socialist. The media is controlled by the Rockefellers and ROthschilds. You do know that American doesnt have a right and a left just right wing nut jobs?
@kromed01 I don't believe Obama is a socialist at all (that's actually sort of my point). I wrote that he is "labeled" as one constantly by the far right, so I think you should correct them, not me. And "Rockefeller" is being used as metonymy, not in a literal sense - I was referring to wealthy elites in general, not something conspiratorial per se.
@yerk3 Great reply prick. I actually said Rockefellers. Anyway Obama has proved beyond all reasonable doubt that Presidents are selected and dont give a monkeys about the people. America is in more wars now than when Bush was in power!
@kromed01 You said Rothschilds. The people who believe in the insane conspiracy theories about the Rothschilds and their secret cabal of shadowy Jew overlords single-handedly engineering every major catastrophe of the last 200 years, putting sinister Jew-chemicals in your drinking water tend to also believe in Reptilians, Planet X, secret energy weapons and other retarded shit. There is a lot of overlap in the tin foil hat community.
@Stingerbillion Because simple human greed and brutishness is boring when you can fill your head with fantasies about bloodlines and grand conspiracies.
@CubanExile Perhaps you should find a different insult than "liberal". For most of Bills viewers (including myself) liberal is not an insult but a compliment.
@wittyvegan For the overwhelming majority of americans, "liberal" is a pejorative...given what the Left actually did from 1962-1980, it's no wonder it's a pejorative. The Left's political class has now adopted the term "progressive"...because they know the word "liberal" turns too many voters off. Actually "progressive" and "liberal" are exactly the same thing and it's not fooling anybody. BTW...what liberals actually are has absolutely nothing to do with the dictionary definition of "liberal".
@JohnR22926 Yes and no... In political science they are not exactly the same thing but, giving the cultural contemporary context of USA they are, pretty much, the same.
The point is that it is two different "dimension": one is being for some for of change step by step (progressive) and not too fast, but still walking further to some ideal...
The other, liberal, is a set of believe about the economy and the society.
@therrydicule I understand "progressive" and "liberal" have different dictionary definitions and that there are some technical differences. What I'm trying to say is that the term "liberal" became very unpopular with voters around 1980, so many former liberals simply started calling themselves progressives. It's the same people, with the same ideology, and the same opinions. And...most importantly....what they believe has virtually nothing to do with the classic liberalism of FDR/LBJ/JFK.
@JohnR22926 Well, JFK is not in the same ideological league than FDR; believe it or not, JFK was more a bit more right-wing with asking the steel industry to keep prices low, reducing interest rate and allow Hedgar Hoover to tape the phone of Martin Luther King... Anyway, I don't think it is that big a deal; right now, it pretty much the same but you have to deal with neo-liberal that have to contrast with their opponent who call themselve conservative.
@ekbowler 1/2: In a nutshell, the US had a social revolution in the 1960s. It was driven by the Civil Rights movement and the anti-Vietnam war movement. There were also political movements on environmentalism, femminism, gay rights, legalization of abortion....all combined with the explosion of rock & roll. Politically, the Liberals were riding the tiger and the conservatives were overwhelmed and in retreat. While most of the Left's issues were legit, the radicals pushed these issues to
@ekbowler 2/2: absurd extremes which enraged conservatives and alienated independents. This is what led to the resurgence of conservatism, the introduction of religion into our politics (e.g. the Moral Majority movement under Jerry Falwell, etc.) and the rise of Ronald Reagan. In short, like most revolutions, the Left went waaay too far and the backlash from the majority of voters is still being felt. I usually vote Repub, not because I even like the Repubs, but because I LOATHE the Left.
@JohnR22926 The majority of voters in your country are democrats. The only reason republicans win is that they get narrow majorities in most districts, while democrats get larger majorities in most of theirs, the last republican president was elected because he had more electoral collage votes, the democrats took the popular vote. As for going to far, if they hadn't, it would still be okay to own your own black slave and women would be prisoners to their husbands/ fathers will.
@SgtPeppersRevolution Recent polls indicate about 45% of americans identify themselves as conservatives and only 20% identify themselves as Liberals. Your claim that most voters are Dems and that Repubs win in their districts by slim majorities is...ABSURD! Look at the Nov 2010 election results by congressional district and you'll see your claims is 100% incorrect.
Only twice in our history has a President won the electoral college but failed to win the popular vote (Bush did it in 2000).
@JohnR22926 You won in 2010 because the young voters did not turn out, also, those polls are taken using reference samples, no more than 10000 people, so prove they were not from red states in the south. Also, democrats have a larger moderate base. Finally, about 2 in 3 eligible voters in your county do not vote, the largest percent of which (young, minorities, women) all denominations where the democrats win with huge margins in polls (Women are lowest with 60%+)
@JohnR22926 What about the other 35%? Centrist? Independents? Unsure? Of course, there are also libertarians, and that even rarer breed "communitarians".
TV sucks.
iseeu1980 1 month ago
LOL! bitches be crazy.
MoorLetoh 2 months ago
too bad his fucking sold us out... I'm never voting for him again... He fooled me. BO sold us out...
phillisthebarbarian 3 months ago
@phillisthebarbarian And who's your alternative?
skrason 3 months ago
@skrason Dr. RON PAUL is my vote. He's the only one to say STOP THE WARS. I believe his words. he's no shill and no BS talker. Personal responsibility, community, family... I guess I've become more libertarian than either of the extreme alt's.
phillisthebarbarian 3 months ago 2
@phillisthebarbarian He may have good ideas, but his comments regarding our constitution are suspect. Letting states choose our rights? That's what the fundamentalist christians want and they help banoll and lobb for the right wing republicans who put us int his mess to begin with. Our rights are a federal issue, they always have been. The US constitution applies to all states, and no one gets to pick and choose.
NUTCASE71733 2 months ago
I want Obama out.
zzzhuh 5 months ago
@zzzhuh I'm more worried about who's going to be put IN.
FatalNeurotoxin 4 months ago
Vote Libertarian (and/or Ron Paul) and avoid all the bullshit nonsense in the comments below.
rmcdaniel423 9 months ago
@rmcdaniel423 Ron Paul is about the only true libertarian left, but the rest of conservatives are more into big government to push their agenda. They say small government, but they force people to do stuff in order to comply with conservative views. They are only small government with it comes to their corporate interest buddies.
I don't think democrats are great, but as always they turn out to be the lesser of two evils.
Not many real republicans left these days.
Neosaigo 8 months ago
@Neosaigo libertarianism is for children with no clue about the real world.
eedobee 8 months ago
@eedobee You do know Libertarian are conservatives right? Just making sure. Because it seems like you have no idea what is a libertarian when you talk. Every conservative now sell themselves as libertarian when they are authoritarian conservatives.
Also btw I am more on the progressive/liberal side, so you probably need to define your comment first.
I hope you did not confuse libertarian with liberals, since that is simply clueless. Liberal is not a dirty word.
Neosaigo 8 months ago
@Neosaigo A government doesn't have to be "big" (i.e. full of social programs, bureaucracy, high taxation, etc.) to be authoritarian. If it's main function is to punish, and not to do other, non-punitive things that (possibly) assist citizens, as conservatives view it, it's forceful and authoritarian by definition. As Gingrich said, "the government is not supposed to be your friend."
gyniest 8 months ago
@Neosaigo Real Libertarians don't advocate deportation for listening to speeches or hire thugs that attack women for protesting.
monokhem 7 months ago
I love it how Bill Maher is still delusional that Obama actually works for the people. Obama is doing his job perfectly for David Rockefeller. Change...that was a joke!
kromed01 9 months ago
@kromed01 The Rockefellers in the Republican party seem to disagree. It's hard to see him as a corporate lackey when he's constantly labeled by corporate lackeys as a "socialist" or with more extreme rhetoric.
gyniest 8 months ago
@gyniest He is anything but a socialist. The media is controlled by the Rockefellers and ROthschilds. You do know that American doesnt have a right and a left just right wing nut jobs?
kromed01 8 months ago
@kromed01 I don't believe Obama is a socialist at all (that's actually sort of my point). I wrote that he is "labeled" as one constantly by the far right, so I think you should correct them, not me. And "Rockefeller" is being used as metonymy, not in a literal sense - I was referring to wealthy elites in general, not something conspiratorial per se.
gyniest 8 months ago
@kromed01 "Rothschilds" LOL. Are the lizard people from Nibiru involved too?
yerk3 7 months ago
@yerk3 Great reply prick. I actually said Rockefellers. Anyway Obama has proved beyond all reasonable doubt that Presidents are selected and dont give a monkeys about the people. America is in more wars now than when Bush was in power!
kromed01 7 months ago
@kromed01 Remind me where I said I was a psychic and could tell what someone REALLY means when they type something completely different.
yerk3 7 months ago
@yerk3 You didnt say you were psychic you just showed what a prick you were by mentioning lizard people.
kromed01 7 months ago
@kromed01 You said Rothschilds. The people who believe in the insane conspiracy theories about the Rothschilds and their secret cabal of shadowy Jew overlords single-handedly engineering every major catastrophe of the last 200 years, putting sinister Jew-chemicals in your drinking water tend to also believe in Reptilians, Planet X, secret energy weapons and other retarded shit. There is a lot of overlap in the tin foil hat community.
yerk3 7 months ago
@kromed01 so true.
Stingerbillion 5 months ago
@Stingerbillion Because simple human greed and brutishness is boring when you can fill your head with fantasies about bloodlines and grand conspiracies.
yerk3 5 months ago
It seems to me it's fear which drives politicians to spend 95%
of their time serving corporate profits; the (mistaken) assumption
that assures jobs for voters families....The world bankers
control/own the politicians, journalists, media, scientists, and on,
and short of an entire planet-wide revolution, there's nothing
which can stop them.
happycapper3 11 months ago
Is this guy a walking cunt?
libssuck55 1 year ago
@libssuck55 Sorry, Ann Coulter's not here.
UnderlordZ 1 year ago
Lol, awesome New Rule!
ajadwis 1 year ago 3
He should be less like Jesse Jackson, and more like Samuel Jackson!
Tendoking 1 year ago 5
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Liberal SPOKESHEAD. This guy is gonna gets his ass kicked ! !
CubanExile 1 year ago
@CubanExile hooray for civil political discourse, YAY!!!!
avalsonline 1 year ago
@CubanExile Perhaps you should find a different insult than "liberal". For most of Bills viewers (including myself) liberal is not an insult but a compliment.
wittyvegan 1 year ago 5
@wittyvegan For the overwhelming majority of americans, "liberal" is a pejorative...given what the Left actually did from 1962-1980, it's no wonder it's a pejorative. The Left's political class has now adopted the term "progressive"...because they know the word "liberal" turns too many voters off. Actually "progressive" and "liberal" are exactly the same thing and it's not fooling anybody. BTW...what liberals actually are has absolutely nothing to do with the dictionary definition of "liberal".
JohnR22926 1 year ago
@JohnR22926 Yes and no... In political science they are not exactly the same thing but, giving the cultural contemporary context of USA they are, pretty much, the same.
The point is that it is two different "dimension": one is being for some for of change step by step (progressive) and not too fast, but still walking further to some ideal...
The other, liberal, is a set of believe about the economy and the society.
therrydicule 1 year ago
@therrydicule I understand "progressive" and "liberal" have different dictionary definitions and that there are some technical differences. What I'm trying to say is that the term "liberal" became very unpopular with voters around 1980, so many former liberals simply started calling themselves progressives. It's the same people, with the same ideology, and the same opinions. And...most importantly....what they believe has virtually nothing to do with the classic liberalism of FDR/LBJ/JFK.
JohnR22926 1 year ago
@JohnR22926 Well, JFK is not in the same ideological league than FDR; believe it or not, JFK was more a bit more right-wing with asking the steel industry to keep prices low, reducing interest rate and allow Hedgar Hoover to tape the phone of Martin Luther King... Anyway, I don't think it is that big a deal; right now, it pretty much the same but you have to deal with neo-liberal that have to contrast with their opponent who call themselve conservative.
therrydicule 1 year ago
@JohnR22926 I wasn't alive back then, so what did the left "Actually do" from 1962-1980
ekbowler 11 months ago
@ekbowler 1/2: In a nutshell, the US had a social revolution in the 1960s. It was driven by the Civil Rights movement and the anti-Vietnam war movement. There were also political movements on environmentalism, femminism, gay rights, legalization of abortion....all combined with the explosion of rock & roll. Politically, the Liberals were riding the tiger and the conservatives were overwhelmed and in retreat. While most of the Left's issues were legit, the radicals pushed these issues to
JohnR22926 11 months ago
@ekbowler 2/2: absurd extremes which enraged conservatives and alienated independents. This is what led to the resurgence of conservatism, the introduction of religion into our politics (e.g. the Moral Majority movement under Jerry Falwell, etc.) and the rise of Ronald Reagan. In short, like most revolutions, the Left went waaay too far and the backlash from the majority of voters is still being felt. I usually vote Repub, not because I even like the Repubs, but because I LOATHE the Left.
JohnR22926 11 months ago
@JohnR22926 The majority of voters in your country are democrats. The only reason republicans win is that they get narrow majorities in most districts, while democrats get larger majorities in most of theirs, the last republican president was elected because he had more electoral collage votes, the democrats took the popular vote. As for going to far, if they hadn't, it would still be okay to own your own black slave and women would be prisoners to their husbands/ fathers will.
SgtPeppersRevolution 9 months ago
@SgtPeppersRevolution Recent polls indicate about 45% of americans identify themselves as conservatives and only 20% identify themselves as Liberals. Your claim that most voters are Dems and that Repubs win in their districts by slim majorities is...ABSURD! Look at the Nov 2010 election results by congressional district and you'll see your claims is 100% incorrect.
Only twice in our history has a President won the electoral college but failed to win the popular vote (Bush did it in 2000).
JohnR22926 9 months ago
@JohnR22926 You won in 2010 because the young voters did not turn out, also, those polls are taken using reference samples, no more than 10000 people, so prove they were not from red states in the south. Also, democrats have a larger moderate base. Finally, about 2 in 3 eligible voters in your county do not vote, the largest percent of which (young, minorities, women) all denominations where the democrats win with huge margins in polls (Women are lowest with 60%+)
SgtPeppersRevolution 9 months ago
@JohnR22926 What about the other 35%? Centrist? Independents? Unsure? Of course, there are also libertarians, and that even rarer breed "communitarians".
gyniest 8 months ago
I want Obama to be more pissed off than a teabagger!
bgbreakdown 1 year ago 104
LOL!
analtony 1 year ago 18