I didn't mind the Kyle crying part. Given that he was born in a post apocalyptic world that's completely different to the world he's in, it gives him that sense of humanity.
The Sarah flipping out like a nut part...didn't like that part either. lol
Hey Everybody! I have just released my new album 'Unhinged' which is greatly inspired by Brad Fiedel's soundtrack work in the Terminator series. You can stream or download the full album for free on my youtube channel!
Lol I discovered this deleted scene AFTER T3 and I was like "wtf, he's not a terminator... it's not like he's not programmed to do that..." upon saying "it's not my mission"
I always think it would've been interesting to see what would've happened in this film had they kept this in. It would more than likely of been a version of what we saw in terminator 2 except that the T1000's role would've been filled by the first terminator. But i'm glad they changed it, apart from anything it makes more sense that the first terminator is the basis for skynet.
I agree that T2 shows the unlikelyhood of a future war, at least in the forcasted viewpoint of T1 & T2. I have to admit, I did enjoy T4 though, well written. But in my heart I LOVE T1 & T2. T3 Was in my eyes, a disgrace. It was a decent film, but not a Terminator Film. T3 left us with a war. T4 Did the best job possible for a sequal to T3. I fully agree with Comments on: @Shrashama's comment. Music, story, cast... T1 & T2, Stunning.
@MichaelEOrmsby T-1 was Like a love story. T-2 Was amazing. I remember as a kid I had a crush on Sarah Connor. Kyle Reese was a very deep character too.
@WaffleSpawn Your obsessed with me You can't stop talking about me. Michael Biehn (Kyle Reese) said T-1 was a love story, so did James Cameron. Girls don't dig a man who is scared of his feelings like you are. How do you think Kyle Reese got laid so fast? Because a real man isn't afraid of any of that. Plus why do you keep talking about fag sex? You are a little suspicious.
@WaffleSpawn OOOOOO. I see you are one of those fanboys that gets mad everytime Someone talk about their favorite movie. Your on here arguing with me at 1:25 on a saturday, All of the signs point to what I am thinking, You aren't making yourself look too good here..=)
@WaffleSpawn Lol But you'll turn around and blow your father with the same mouth you use to Bash someone over the Internet that you don't even know...I think your mad. it's a Saturday night Go hang out with a girl or something. You're like posting three Million comments to me and You don't like me? LMFAO.
Someone please help, I have 3 questions. Witch is the dvd that has the deleted scenes? And are the deleted scenes attached in the actual movie like T2 Extreme cut or just in the special features? And what cover of the dvd is it? Buz I got The Terminator Lenticular dvd, its remasterd but it has no extended scenes or Special Features.
2:28 - this scene would've killed the whole movie... and would've dragged it down to the level of the B movies of the '80-es, thank God, James Cameron cut it.
Besides the cheesy acting, this scene would have left the audience disappointed because they failed to destroy Cyberdyne and it would have been an obvious set-up for a sequel instead of the self-contained movie it is. Although it does show the genesis of T2 was already present seven years earlier.
Psychologist Erich Fromm referred to Necrophilia : The love of death/artificiality. He didn't refer to very dirty toilets or dead bodies but to sterility; the skyscrapers, the super-clean cities, where everybody is regimented while suppressing their spirit. The place where the natural environment must obey the spiritually dead man. So, the post-apocalyptic L.A. can be interpreted as the typical modern city; not broken in a physical sense, but definitely in the spiritual and moral sense.
There's an incredible metaphor behind the Terminator films that unfortunately most people will never see. But, I will explain it in short : They are trying to escape from a mechanical 'man', a heartless creature. That is a metaphor for the man who lost intimate contact with his fellow-man and natural environment. It can be seen as the battle between being human and the allowance of dehumanization, and it's consequences thereof. Look at our ugly cities now...this scene is more relevant than ever!
@lordvoldemort578 O.K. They're escaping a physical robot which is hunting them down. That's the story on the surface, you know, adrenaline entertainment. Looking closer at the film with the right-brain, it became clear that they are trying to escape the mechanicalness within themselves (their mind, their habits, their routine and refusal to grow and to be creative). If they refuse to deal with that, the future becomes a unnatural, sterile, death-infested place to be...the apocalyptic L.A... ;-)
@BeyondDogmaTV I had to read that a couple times. Pretty deep. You are saying they are trying to escape the The Machine Like part of themselves They refuse to deal with inter conflicts and the future becomes what it is In T4
@BeyondDogmaTV ...That is a great point you bring up. I mean just look at GPS for a moment...that is, the amount of people now who can't seem to navigate without it. It really wasn't that long ago when people had to rely on a compass and a map or a chart, also using the sun and the stars for reference. Nowadays, you have a entire generation that don't even know how to use a simple compass. If the GPS were to fail, they would be completely lost. Think what it will be like 25 years fron now.
@superhornet69 Yes, you're talking about technology replacing man's natural intelligence. See, there is nothing wrong with technology per se. What counts it's the motive behind it's usage. If it's used to dumb down humanity and battle nature, then it can lead to nothing but destruction. Nature is getting more and more lost from our dialogue, and people are becoming less and less of a human being. Like psychologist Erich Fromm said; "The danger of the future is that man may become robots."
He doesn't mean physical, but mentally and spiritually; the creature who has no empathy, no connection to his fellow human beings and the rest of the universe. ;-)
That's why Cameron stood out in the 80's even in low-budget T1. He didn't play along with the sappy stuff. A Cameron movie was hard liquor the whole way through.
Interesting to see Reese's character experiencing nature, but, nahhh.
I always wondered what it was like for Reese, to go from the post apocalyptic world to that one, to see everything as it once was. Guess now I know, though I had a feeling it was something like this.
They should have somehow kept the scene where she's calling her mother, it gave me creeps for some reason and it would be logical that she is concerned about the safety of her mother, but I'm glad they have cut out the rest. Though it would be logical for them to consider attacking the factory it's just tells to much about Kyle. They should have made it a little diferent
@DragonTycoon Oh please, you're so fuckin' full of it... James Cameron made the right move. Although, I don't like it as much as you do that Kyle Reese was killed by the T-800, you can't say that it wasn't for the best for the story line. I mean, come on now....
@MrAdog14alex i know right? he's his friend's father...and .....it sucks already...he had to die or the story gets really weird..1st what happened to him? does he find "himself"?..His character had to go to make the story conceivable.
@Shirashama you're wrong... in T2 he lost an arm in engines (if I remember well), so that arm continue the proyect... remember that in T2 used the arm of T1 to "start" the proyect of Cyberdyne.
@ryomagr well it depends on how you look at it. a cut scene from 2 was john going and throwing in that arm after Arnold's dip. but the arm didn't have anything worth saving really. its all mechanical now electronics. and the alloy would have already been discoveried from the first arm. it is the CPU that matters. but when you think about it. distroying one room in one building would not wipe out everything they learned from it. it would infact just delay it like 3 stated.
@Shirashama Not really. If you remember the fight between the T-800 and T-1000 the 800 got his arm severed off by the gear. After a few months or something people would find it and the war will still be inevitable cuz of reverse engineering the arm.
@thafoofa 4 Was alright. But I hated 3 it was just so emotionless, 1 and 2 were love stories, they actually showed you how Humans differ from Machines and that we must fight to protect the life we love. Linda Hamilton refused to do part 3 because she felt it was emotionless. 1 was still a love story.
@Shirashama The future was not necessarily saved by their actions in T2. Sarah Conner states at the end of T2 that the future is uncertain. There were no promises that Skynet wouldn't still come to be. T3 had the same worn formula as T1 and T2. Send a terminator back in time, AGAIN, to try and wipe John Conner from existence, AGAIN. Salvation was showing the beginnings of the future war. Skynet gaining global dominance and evolving, and John Conner becoming leader of the resistance.
@Shirashama Salvation shows Terminator fans more of the future war. And let's face it...any Terminator fan, that isn't on Arnotds dick, wants to see more of the future war. Don't get me wrong, Arnold is my favorite action-hero. But he wasn't the only reason the Terminator franchise was successful or interesting. The story was intriguing and unique, the soundtrack was awesome, and the casting was well done too. Salvation gave fans something new to consume...The early years of the future war.
Except that it is very well established (by pretty much every bit of canon aside from the first film) that time travel and causality don't work that way in the Terminator universe.
BTTF follows different rules than the Terminator series. In BTTF there is one time line which, when altered, will erase gradually paradoxes through a ripple effect. Terminator offers hints that there are multiple timelines ("one possible future... I don't know tech stuff"). In the SCC TV series changes to the timeline result in soldiers from 2 different possible futures travelling to the past.
I think they should have had Michael Biehn play John Conner in the 4th Terminator movie. That way it could look like John Conner just took on the traits of his father Michael Biehn (Ala Kyle Reese). But no...Instead we got spoiled fuck Christan Bail.
@MercuryMorrison1 Haha! Love it! Have you read the graphic comic novel, "The Terminator: 2029-1984"? The writers made Kyle Reese be the bad ass Kyle Reese and not the whining wimp he was in the "Nuclear Twilight" comic based right off of the T2:JD movie.
They fucked up by removing the whole Cyberdine thing from the movie: I always liked the movie, but always hated how in the end the Terminator is just left there, with no explanation to what happens to it.
This really doesn't fit with the movie's themes. This was marketed as a horror / sci-fi movie and this stuff has no place in that kind of film. Plus it's too long, redundant and poorly acted. T2 touched on this stuff, which was more appropriate as that film was more touchy feely and less action driven than the first Terminator.
BTW People who think / post that T2 would have been better with Reece as additional major character are just weird, intellectually stunted individuals.
I figured Cameron was pretty much done with it, and Nolan can be surprising. I thought Batman and Inception were 2 seperate genres yet he pulled it off and both movies were epic for me. You never know, Chris is a smart and talented guy I'm sure he could find a way to appeal to the true fans, while keeping it high budget and the cheesy factor to obsolete. I still shudder to think anytime I see a T3 clip.
@The79Machine Christopher Nolan?? for a Terminator movie? No its James Cameron or nothing. The only good Terminator movie that will come out is if James Cameron puts one out when he get the rights back in 2018.
I don't know why it was deleted. This scene is the payoff of Reese's arc where the transforms from terminator to human and we see Sarah becoming the strong character she would become. I believe Cameron removed it because he felt it would lessen the emotional impact of the hotel scene where Reese confesses his love for Sarah. It would make it seem redundant being the second time Reese opens up and becomes vulnerable in front of Sarah. I thought this scene was stronger and deeper though.
@themaniacboy james cameron didnt work on T3 and T4 he wanted to make T2 the final so there was Sky net edition of T2 wich have alternate or pluse ending watch it its very wonderful
@mongoose704: I agree; this scene would still make sense along with the microchip scene after the finale as well since the movie ends with a foreboding "to-be-continued..." tone, whether he inteded to do part 2 or not.
Michael Biehn somehow needs to be in the next Terminator movie. He's the man! I wasn't happy with who they picked to be Kyle Reese in T4. I know they wanted someone who looked young, but he straight up looked like a nerd. Kyle Reese is supposed to look like a total badass. Aka ...Michael Biehn
@alexaysonfire If you ask me, Anton Yelchin favors a young Michael Biehn Kyle Reese A LOT. Same jaw, facial expressions etc. At that point (T4), he wasn't the badass we've come to love, so I think it worked out quite nicely.
@alexaysonfire Yeah, Kyle was an awesome character, it's just that awful MULLET, ugh. But he was still awesome with the shotgun. Unfortunately, I don't think that he's good anymore, he's kind of an ugly old man, and including him would be like making a sequel to Lawrence of Arabia using Peter O'Toole in his current condition.
Then again, maybe we could go back in time and bring Michael Biehn to the future...
If Sara had blown up CyberD ,the Company, then SKYNET would not be built which in turn SKYNET would not have created a TIme Displacement machine, which in turn no war, and therefore no Kyle Reese travelling back in time to inpregnate Sara and then No john Conner---
I liked this scene for showing a more human side of Kyle and how it kinda show that he's in love with Sarah and if they had kept it, kyle's love declaration would not have seemed that it came out of no where... but I don't think it would have fit well with the rest of the movie. And even though I love Kyle, I thought the crying was really cheesy... I actually started laughing
@nermid -Yeah, but stuff can happen like that if you lose control after someone hits you.. That kind of stuff wasn't mainstream in the 80's, though.. So, okay, I see.
It's not a bad scene, but (a) it would ruin the clautrophobic grab-you-by-the-balls pace, and (b) it would make it into a drama, plus the hero appears whiney instead of sensitive.
Although the scene brings the movie to a complete halt, I still think the acting is superb and it really helps develop Kyle Reese as a character. Was it a good move to pull this scene out of the movie? Yes. Had it actually hurt the movie if not deleted? Perhaps.
This. Is. A. Great. Scene! I wish this scene was in the movie because we see Kyle in a different way, I've never seen Kyle so emotional, I wish it was never cut, it's so sad.
@colmhearne Yeah, I wish they never killed him off in Alien3, I say they ignore Alien 3 and 4 and bring him back for a new Alien movie, and do the same thing for Terminator, ignore Terminator 3 and 4 which tells what happened before Kyle was sent back in time with him reprising his role as the awesome Kyle Reese.
they shouldn't have cut this scene
WhatWouldNinjaDo1 3 days ago
@WhatWouldNinjaDo1 You said it. This was a kick ass scene.
MrJackbrown786 2 days ago
how does 2:40 not make you cry
lordvoldemort578 1 month ago
I'm glad I watched this, but I'm glad they deleted it. Sarah flipping out like a nut? Kyle M-F'ing Reese crying? That's IMPOSSIBLE!
AshtonCoolman 1 month ago
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I didn't mind the Kyle crying part. Given that he was born in a post apocalyptic world that's completely different to the world he's in, it gives him that sense of humanity.
The Sarah flipping out like a nut part...didn't like that part either. lol
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Hey Everybody! I have just released my new album 'Unhinged' which is greatly inspired by Brad Fiedel's soundtrack work in the Terminator series. You can stream or download the full album for free on my youtube channel!
ORTmusic 1 month ago
Lol I discovered this deleted scene AFTER T3 and I was like "wtf, he's not a terminator... it's not like he's not programmed to do that..." upon saying "it's not my mission"
h2opolodan11 2 months ago
I always think it would've been interesting to see what would've happened in this film had they kept this in. It would more than likely of been a version of what we saw in terminator 2 except that the T1000's role would've been filled by the first terminator. But i'm glad they changed it, apart from anything it makes more sense that the first terminator is the basis for skynet.
HugovonDrax 2 months ago
I agree that T2 shows the unlikelyhood of a future war, at least in the forcasted viewpoint of T1 & T2. I have to admit, I did enjoy T4 though, well written. But in my heart I LOVE T1 & T2. T3 Was in my eyes, a disgrace. It was a decent film, but not a Terminator Film. T3 left us with a war. T4 Did the best job possible for a sequal to T3. I fully agree with Comments on: @Shrashama's comment. Music, story, cast... T1 & T2, Stunning.
MichaelEOrmsby 3 months ago
@MichaelEOrmsby T-1 was Like a love story. T-2 Was amazing. I remember as a kid I had a crush on Sarah Connor. Kyle Reese was a very deep character too.
lordvoldemort578 3 months ago
2:00 Biehns face looks Bony.
lordvoldemort578 3 months ago
Ven conmigo si qieres vivir
yeisonborn 3 months ago
@WaffleSpawn Your obsessed with me You can't stop talking about me. Michael Biehn (Kyle Reese) said T-1 was a love story, so did James Cameron. Girls don't dig a man who is scared of his feelings like you are. How do you think Kyle Reese got laid so fast? Because a real man isn't afraid of any of that. Plus why do you keep talking about fag sex? You are a little suspicious.
lordvoldemort578 3 months ago
@WaffleSpawn =)
lordvoldemort578 3 months ago
@WaffleSpawn Fanboy getting mad. =)
lordvoldemort578 3 months ago
@WaffleSpawn Me and My girl are laughing at you Pathetic fanboy.
lordvoldemort578 3 months ago
@WaffleSpawn Get a life. Stop worrying about what I think. How do you even know what time it is if your head is up your dads ass? faggot.
lordvoldemort578 3 months ago
@WaffleSpawn OOOOOO. I see you are one of those fanboys that gets mad everytime Someone talk about their favorite movie. Your on here arguing with me at 1:25 on a saturday, All of the signs point to what I am thinking, You aren't making yourself look too good here..=)
lordvoldemort578 3 months ago
@WaffleSpawn Lol But you'll turn around and blow your father with the same mouth you use to Bash someone over the Internet that you don't even know...I think your mad. it's a Saturday night Go hang out with a girl or something. You're like posting three Million comments to me and You don't like me? LMFAO.
lordvoldemort578 3 months ago
@WaffleSpawn You reported me? LOL you mad bro?
lordvoldemort578 3 months ago
@WaffleSpawn Do You Blow your father with that mouth?
lordvoldemort578 3 months ago
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Someone please help, I have 3 questions. Witch is the dvd that has the deleted scenes? And are the deleted scenes attached in the actual movie like T2 Extreme cut or just in the special features? And what cover of the dvd is it? Buz I got The Terminator Lenticular dvd, its remasterd but it has no extended scenes or Special Features.
TonyG8992 4 months ago
2:28 - this scene would've killed the whole movie... and would've dragged it down to the level of the B movies of the '80-es, thank God, James Cameron cut it.
bbenjoe 4 months ago
No future is set in stone! There is no future but what we make of it! Sure they destroyed Skynet in T2, but they didn't destroy it's creator!
Dinoman217 4 months ago
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duduberna 5 months ago
Besides the cheesy acting, this scene would have left the audience disappointed because they failed to destroy Cyberdyne and it would have been an obvious set-up for a sequel instead of the self-contained movie it is. Although it does show the genesis of T2 was already present seven years earlier.
squamish4244 5 months ago
Psychologist Erich Fromm referred to Necrophilia : The love of death/artificiality. He didn't refer to very dirty toilets or dead bodies but to sterility; the skyscrapers, the super-clean cities, where everybody is regimented while suppressing their spirit. The place where the natural environment must obey the spiritually dead man. So, the post-apocalyptic L.A. can be interpreted as the typical modern city; not broken in a physical sense, but definitely in the spiritual and moral sense.
BeyondDogmaTV 5 months ago
There's an incredible metaphor behind the Terminator films that unfortunately most people will never see. But, I will explain it in short : They are trying to escape from a mechanical 'man', a heartless creature. That is a metaphor for the man who lost intimate contact with his fellow-man and natural environment. It can be seen as the battle between being human and the allowance of dehumanization, and it's consequences thereof. Look at our ugly cities now...this scene is more relevant than ever!
BeyondDogmaTV 5 months ago
@BeyondDogmaTV
Very interesting point of view.
MissPulsar86 5 months ago
@BeyondDogmaTV Wow please explain more you have a very interresting opinion.
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 O.K. They're escaping a physical robot which is hunting them down. That's the story on the surface, you know, adrenaline entertainment. Looking closer at the film with the right-brain, it became clear that they are trying to escape the mechanicalness within themselves (their mind, their habits, their routine and refusal to grow and to be creative). If they refuse to deal with that, the future becomes a unnatural, sterile, death-infested place to be...the apocalyptic L.A... ;-)
BeyondDogmaTV 5 months ago
@BeyondDogmaTV I had to read that a couple times. Pretty deep. You are saying they are trying to escape the The Machine Like part of themselves They refuse to deal with inter conflicts and the future becomes what it is In T4
lordvoldemort578 5 months ago
@BeyondDogmaTV ...That is a great point you bring up. I mean just look at GPS for a moment...that is, the amount of people now who can't seem to navigate without it. It really wasn't that long ago when people had to rely on a compass and a map or a chart, also using the sun and the stars for reference. Nowadays, you have a entire generation that don't even know how to use a simple compass. If the GPS were to fail, they would be completely lost. Think what it will be like 25 years fron now.
superhornet69 4 months ago
@superhornet69 Yes, you're talking about technology replacing man's natural intelligence. See, there is nothing wrong with technology per se. What counts it's the motive behind it's usage. If it's used to dumb down humanity and battle nature, then it can lead to nothing but destruction. Nature is getting more and more lost from our dialogue, and people are becoming less and less of a human being. Like psychologist Erich Fromm said; "The danger of the future is that man may become robots."
BeyondDogmaTV 4 months ago
He doesn't mean physical, but mentally and spiritually; the creature who has no empathy, no connection to his fellow human beings and the rest of the universe. ;-)
BeyondDogmaTV 4 months ago
That's why Cameron stood out in the 80's even in low-budget T1. He didn't play along with the sappy stuff. A Cameron movie was hard liquor the whole way through.
Interesting to see Reese's character experiencing nature, but, nahhh.
RomansGalatians 5 months ago
I am SO glad they got rid of this.
amysita77 5 months ago
"It hurts so bad"
That part was mad weak and ruined what woulda otherwise been a good scene for them to keep. If they ain't rework this into T2 that is.
And Linda circa 84 looks cute with that frizzy hair
Mangler211 6 months ago
@Mangler211
That hairstyle Linda Hamilton had is what's known as an 80s mullet. A very populer hairstyle of the 80s & even today.
Raptormon132 1 month ago
I always wondered what it was like for Reese, to go from the post apocalyptic world to that one, to see everything as it once was. Guess now I know, though I had a feeling it was something like this.
Buccura 6 months ago
This scene is a copy of the scene where John wants to go for his mother.
"That is tactically dangerous"
That's what the Terminator says to John Connor in T2.
Watchernator 6 months ago
4:00...the face i make when i bust too fast
nyblusaiyan 6 months ago
"Tactically dangerous" was repeated in T2. Of course, I like Arnold's accent better.
GanadoFO 6 months ago
I wish I never saw this. SO CHEESY. Thanks God they deleted this scene.
TheUtopia77 6 months ago
@TheUtopia77 Yes agree but if they could play better in this scene it would be pretty good i think .Greets.
TheKonrad1984 6 months ago
Thx for posting this video thanks! thank you
Nick29405 6 months ago
@DragonTycoon terminator 4 was horrible, but Terminator 3 is a very good and underrated movie
myers82 7 months ago
@myers82 really??? are you joking??
daveibukun 7 months ago
@daveibukun NO, in my opinion T3 was very good, T4 SUCKS
myers82 6 months ago
They should have somehow kept the scene where she's calling her mother, it gave me creeps for some reason and it would be logical that she is concerned about the safety of her mother, but I'm glad they have cut out the rest. Though it would be logical for them to consider attacking the factory it's just tells to much about Kyle. They should have made it a little diferent
ScAgCoWbOy 7 months ago
@DragonTycoon Oh please, you're so fuckin' full of it... James Cameron made the right move. Although, I don't like it as much as you do that Kyle Reese was killed by the T-800, you can't say that it wasn't for the best for the story line. I mean, come on now....
MrAdog14alex 7 months ago
@MrAdog14alex i know right? he's his friend's father...and .....it sucks already...he had to die or the story gets really weird..1st what happened to him? does he find "himself"?..His character had to go to make the story conceivable.
BHDread 6 months ago
The Terminator series should've ended after the second one. All others are shit. The future was saved by what they did in T2!
Shirashama 7 months ago 22
@Shirashama you're wrong... in T2 he lost an arm in engines (if I remember well), so that arm continue the proyect... remember that in T2 used the arm of T1 to "start" the proyect of Cyberdyne.
ryomagr 4 months ago
@ryomagr well it depends on how you look at it. a cut scene from 2 was john going and throwing in that arm after Arnold's dip. but the arm didn't have anything worth saving really. its all mechanical now electronics. and the alloy would have already been discoveried from the first arm. it is the CPU that matters. but when you think about it. distroying one room in one building would not wipe out everything they learned from it. it would infact just delay it like 3 stated.
1crazyfocker 3 months ago
@Shirashama Not really. If you remember the fight between the T-800 and T-1000 the 800 got his arm severed off by the gear. After a few months or something people would find it and the war will still be inevitable cuz of reverse engineering the arm.
joltster109 4 months ago
@Shirashama Completely agree. Absolutely hated the third one and the fourth one was so unmemorable. T2 was the end of the story for me too.
thafoofa 3 months ago
@thafoofa 4 Was alright. But I hated 3 it was just so emotionless, 1 and 2 were love stories, they actually showed you how Humans differ from Machines and that we must fight to protect the life we love. Linda Hamilton refused to do part 3 because she felt it was emotionless. 1 was still a love story.
lordvoldemort578 3 months ago
@lordvoldemort578 Well said and I totally agree.
thafoofa 3 months ago
@thafoofa I mean 4 was alright...
lordvoldemort578 3 months ago
@Shirashama The future was not necessarily saved by their actions in T2. Sarah Conner states at the end of T2 that the future is uncertain. There were no promises that Skynet wouldn't still come to be. T3 had the same worn formula as T1 and T2. Send a terminator back in time, AGAIN, to try and wipe John Conner from existence, AGAIN. Salvation was showing the beginnings of the future war. Skynet gaining global dominance and evolving, and John Conner becoming leader of the resistance.
ooJUKEBOXHEROoo 3 months ago 2
@Shirashama Salvation shows Terminator fans more of the future war. And let's face it...any Terminator fan, that isn't on Arnotds dick, wants to see more of the future war. Don't get me wrong, Arnold is my favorite action-hero. But he wasn't the only reason the Terminator franchise was successful or interesting. The story was intriguing and unique, the soundtrack was awesome, and the casting was well done too. Salvation gave fans something new to consume...The early years of the future war.
ooJUKEBOXHEROoo 3 months ago
@Shirashama 100% agree and anything else is bullshit. Shirashama = Elite film lover.
normalpsychology 1 month ago
@Shirashama Actually, if Future never happened, John Connor would disappear instant,
if you watched BTTF (Back To The Future), because John would never send Kyle Reese in past, and John would never exist. So technically...
xXDennisThaGangstaXx 1 month ago
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Innocent046 1 month ago
@xXDennisThaGangstaXx
Except that it is very well established (by pretty much every bit of canon aside from the first film) that time travel and causality don't work that way in the Terminator universe.
Tiranasta 1 month ago
BTTF follows different rules than the Terminator series. In BTTF there is one time line which, when altered, will erase gradually paradoxes through a ripple effect. Terminator offers hints that there are multiple timelines ("one possible future... I don't know tech stuff"). In the SCC TV series changes to the timeline result in soldiers from 2 different possible futures travelling to the past.
deejayalemus 1 month ago
@Shirashama There was no T3 wink wink!
predator45655 2 weeks ago
@Shirashama i agree 100%, the quality of the films went wayyyy down after T2
petrucciphan 1 week ago
I think they should have had Michael Biehn play John Conner in the 4th Terminator movie. That way it could look like John Conner just took on the traits of his father Michael Biehn (Ala Kyle Reese). But no...Instead we got spoiled fuck Christan Bail.
MercuryMorrison1 7 months ago
@MercuryMorrison1 Haha! Love it! Have you read the graphic comic novel, "The Terminator: 2029-1984"? The writers made Kyle Reese be the bad ass Kyle Reese and not the whining wimp he was in the "Nuclear Twilight" comic based right off of the T2:JD movie.
MoviesTubeYou0675 7 months ago
iv never seen this scene but what a great scene
jackcogolin 7 months ago
This scene would have changed the plot of the entire movie!
fvgdfbdokd 7 months ago
this scene should be between what scenes ?
puercos911 8 months ago
@puercos911 Them getting out of the police station and them finding the motel.
lordvoldemort578 7 months ago
@puercos911
Between when they wake-up in the storm drain to the scene where the terminator is reading the address book it took from Sarah's house.
Raptormon132 1 month ago
They fucked up by removing the whole Cyberdine thing from the movie: I always liked the movie, but always hated how in the end the Terminator is just left there, with no explanation to what happens to it.
KombatGod 8 months ago
I hate when there delete scenes.
this is so important
PiperMMMMMMMMMM 8 months ago
why did they delete this scene?
1000Gunray 8 months ago
It was a cool scene till Reece started crying. Good cut.
TheChiefsDude 8 months ago
So thats where she got the idea to destroy Cyberdyne in T2
TheT800infiltrator 8 months ago 4
Kyle Resse was freaking awesome
TheT800infiltrator 8 months ago
they should've left this scene in, Reese actually cries? wow!
whatsgoingon07 8 months ago
The most important part of this scene is that Reese finally expresses his shock at how different the past is from his future.
zigzigzig 9 months ago
This really doesn't fit with the movie's themes. This was marketed as a horror / sci-fi movie and this stuff has no place in that kind of film. Plus it's too long, redundant and poorly acted. T2 touched on this stuff, which was more appropriate as that film was more touchy feely and less action driven than the first Terminator.
BTW People who think / post that T2 would have been better with Reece as additional major character are just weird, intellectually stunted individuals.
playadominical 9 months ago
why should she be scared of his gun? his mission is to let her survive, he obviously won't shoot
Zanmatt2g 9 months ago
I wanna be like Mike.
IggyHazard 9 months ago
Holly shit at 3:40 Sarah looks like Justin Bieber!
andresisthename 9 months ago
@andresisthename don't insult Sarah
elcap22 9 months ago
"...so beautiful. *waaah*"
You should not show Kyle Reese crying over a dandelion!
GhostsAndAliens 9 months ago
Sure glad they cut this scene
adam3176 9 months ago
@adam3176 why?
lordvoldemort578 7 months ago
I figured Cameron was pretty much done with it, and Nolan can be surprising. I thought Batman and Inception were 2 seperate genres yet he pulled it off and both movies were epic for me. You never know, Chris is a smart and talented guy I'm sure he could find a way to appeal to the true fans, while keeping it high budget and the cheesy factor to obsolete. I still shudder to think anytime I see a T3 clip.
The79Machine 10 months ago
I'd like to see Mario Kassar get with Chistopher Nolan on T5, I've been really impressed with his work lately.
The79Machine 10 months ago 2
@The79Machine Christopher Nolan?? for a Terminator movie? No its James Cameron or nothing. The only good Terminator movie that will come out is if James Cameron puts one out when he get the rights back in 2018.
TheRocknRollfreak 10 months ago
Michael Biehn should of got an Oscar for this! What a ledge!!
The1979Warriors 10 months ago
where did you got this edition please tell me
smallville0forever 10 months ago
I don't know why it was deleted. This scene is the payoff of Reese's arc where the transforms from terminator to human and we see Sarah becoming the strong character she would become. I believe Cameron removed it because he felt it would lessen the emotional impact of the hotel scene where Reese confesses his love for Sarah. It would make it seem redundant being the second time Reese opens up and becomes vulnerable in front of Sarah. I thought this scene was stronger and deeper though.
mongoose704 10 months ago 2
@mongoose704 And probably because Michael Biehn's wimpy crying was a little melodramatic, along with the other choppy parts of this scene.
TheNewFlare 10 months ago
@mongoose704 No, if Cameron let this scene in the final cut, then there would be a huge plot spoiler in T2
themaniacboy 10 months ago
@themaniacboy In a hindsight is 20/20 sort of way you are correct.
mongoose704 10 months ago
@mongoose704 I know i am, James Cameron said it himself.
He also wanted Terminator 2 to be the end, not Terminator 3, 4, 5 or 6.
themaniacboy 10 months ago
@themaniacboy james cameron didnt work on T3 and T4 he wanted to make T2 the final so there was Sky net edition of T2 wich have alternate or pluse ending watch it its very wonderful
smallville0forever 10 months ago
@smallville0forever You mean Cameron's ending ?
Yeah, i've seen it.
themaniacboy 10 months ago
@mongoose704 I thin kyour right
psytimenero 10 months ago
@mongoose704: I agree; this scene would still make sense along with the microchip scene after the finale as well since the movie ends with a foreboding "to-be-continued..." tone, whether he inteded to do part 2 or not.
DNchap1417 9 months ago
Sabotan Systems, Model 101 (keyboard typing noises)
pr9nkaholic 10 months ago
Holyyyyy shit the idea for T2 was already there in part 1.
kranktank 10 months ago
Schwarzenneger was originally going to be Reese, but since they couldn't find a person for the Terminator, they switched his part
WunderwaffeDG41 10 months ago
@mitchellj1986 The movie would not have been as good at all in my opinion. No one can capture kyle reese as well as Michael Biehn.
xNeo2Rememberx 10 months ago
@mitchellj1986 phew....
TechNoirClub 10 months ago
Reese is a horrible crier.
RoyboyX 10 months ago
@RoyboyX Oh stop it.
xNeo2Rememberx 10 months ago
Great editing on this movie. So glad they binned this.
capebee 10 months ago
So glad they left this out. Linda Hamilton's overacting killed this scene.
MrHotpantsImComin 11 months ago
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TechNoirClub 10 months ago
Michael Biehn somehow needs to be in the next Terminator movie. He's the man! I wasn't happy with who they picked to be Kyle Reese in T4. I know they wanted someone who looked young, but he straight up looked like a nerd. Kyle Reese is supposed to look like a total badass. Aka ...Michael Biehn
alexaysonfire 11 months ago 21
@alexaysonfire - I thought the guy was a good likeness; keep in mind he was meant to be like 14 or 15...
rayjaymor85 6 months ago
@alexaysonfire If you ask me, Anton Yelchin favors a young Michael Biehn Kyle Reese A LOT. Same jaw, facial expressions etc. At that point (T4), he wasn't the badass we've come to love, so I think it worked out quite nicely.
MegaMacTV 4 months ago
@alexaysonfire Yeah, Kyle was an awesome character, it's just that awful MULLET, ugh. But he was still awesome with the shotgun. Unfortunately, I don't think that he's good anymore, he's kind of an ugly old man, and including him would be like making a sequel to Lawrence of Arabia using Peter O'Toole in his current condition.
Then again, maybe we could go back in time and bring Michael Biehn to the future...
hobo8675309 4 months ago
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I loved this movie, but I am really glad these deleted scenes were, in fact, deleted!!!
Kelmanila 11 months ago
If Sara had blown up CyberD ,the Company, then SKYNET would not be built which in turn SKYNET would not have created a TIme Displacement machine, which in turn no war, and therefore no Kyle Reese travelling back in time to inpregnate Sara and then No john Conner---
rangeclerk 11 months ago
Naturally Biehn turned to alcohol because of his bad flashbacks with the apocolyptic nuclear war.
TCFan25 11 months ago
I liked this scene for showing a more human side of Kyle and how it kinda show that he's in love with Sarah and if they had kept it, kyle's love declaration would not have seemed that it came out of no where... but I don't think it would have fit well with the rest of the movie. And even though I love Kyle, I thought the crying was really cheesy... I actually started laughing
katiethekool28 11 months ago
WHY WAS THIS DELETED? It was perfect foreshadowing!
Josue31627 11 months ago
this and the deleted dream scene from T2 seem to add a whole new layer to films. wish they had not been taken out.
xJustDontBiteItx 1 year ago
Are these deleted scenes from a special edition dvd? anyone know which one i need to buy? thanks
weyoun2006 1 year ago
@weyoun2006 i saw they are included in the blue-ray.
punishalltrolls 1 year ago
This not only enhances this film, it strengthens the continuity of the whole series. Great acting too.
stevecav1138 1 year ago
This scene shouldn't have been deleted. Michael Biehn was a very believable actor.
mmkaviator 1 year ago 2
Great! may i ask, why was this scene deleted?
dannyboyyy1000 1 year ago
Why was this deleted?
saints360row 1 year ago
@saints360row
The hero pointing a gun at a woman?
In the '80s?
I wonder.
nermid 1 year ago 4
@nermid -Yeah, but stuff can happen like that if you lose control after someone hits you.. That kind of stuff wasn't mainstream in the 80's, though.. So, okay, I see.
Thanks.
saints360row 1 year ago
@nermid Well, you gotta realize this was a Jim Cameron film. He's really intense
mmkaviator 1 year ago
@DevilofcompleteDark Yeah, Throat-Cancer Batman as John Connor just didn't do it for me. lol
MystickalChristian 1 year ago
jeez can you be any more violent flipping pages
dartheric 1 year ago
@DevilofcompleteDark YEAH RIGHT, terminators on bikes, ALL CGA !!!! GAINT ROBOT TERMINATORS
DrOrtmeyer 1 year ago
Reese's crying face = Ren's crying face from Ren & Stimpy.
Chubzdoomer 1 year ago
@Pauluk33 Wow I agree.
TheWCWite 1 year ago
Does it cross anyone else's mind that kyle looks a tiiinnny bit like jared leto ? I think im just going bonkers :P
xxQuInNzeLLxx 1 year ago
Lame, can see why they cut it.
garibaldi54 1 year ago
I LOVE her hair
MooseHatTV 1 year ago
It's not a bad scene, but (a) it would ruin the clautrophobic grab-you-by-the-balls pace, and (b) it would make it into a drama, plus the hero appears whiney instead of sensitive.
bloodySunday77 1 year ago 2
Although the scene brings the movie to a complete halt, I still think the acting is superb and it really helps develop Kyle Reese as a character. Was it a good move to pull this scene out of the movie? Yes. Had it actually hurt the movie if not deleted? Perhaps.
That's the sad reality about it.
cernex 1 year ago
reese is awsome
luigi180 1 year ago 4
she is SO beautiful...
hybridbobafett 1 year ago
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Carbon657 1 year ago
This. Is. A. Great. Scene! I wish this scene was in the movie because we see Kyle in a different way, I've never seen Kyle so emotional, I wish it was never cut, it's so sad.
WeylandYutaniInc91 1 year ago
Michael Biehn is an underrated actor
colmhearne 1 year ago 96
@colmhearne Yeah, I wish they never killed him off in Alien3, I say they ignore Alien 3 and 4 and bring him back for a new Alien movie, and do the same thing for Terminator, ignore Terminator 3 and 4 which tells what happened before Kyle was sent back in time with him reprising his role as the awesome Kyle Reese.
WeylandYutaniInc91 1 year ago
@colmhearne totally agree!
queenpaula02 1 year ago
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@colmhearne totally agree!
queenpaula02 1 year ago
@colmhearne totally agree!
queenpaula02 1 year ago
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@colmhearne totally agree!
queenpaula02 1 year ago
@colmhearne i like him
stigfan35 1 year ago
@colmhearne something about him properly influenced me when I was little and still does now
queenmcsleaze 1 year ago
@colmhearne
true but he should not have turned to alcohol because of that
thaifighter911 11 months ago
@colmhearne yeah its really too bad hes typecast as a millitary type guy
UniteForgetLeftRight 9 months ago
@UniteForgetLeftRight He plays the best ones, though. The Doom Marine could have been based on him, even! Maybe crossed with Tom Berenger.
IggyHazard 9 months ago
@colmhearne He sure is one of the best there is.
flensoest 8 months ago
On the contrary, Biehn is an incredible actor, just so you know. Why in the hell do you think he was in the movie in the first place, huh..?
MrAdog14alex 8 months ago
Movies like Terminator should never have this sensitivity crap in them.
don417 1 year ago
Shame Reese couldn't of survived, would of been better if he was in T2 aswell
Hellothasauras 1 year ago 46
@Hellothasauras he kinda is only in deleted scene
letmeblarg 1 year ago
@Hellothasauras absolutely. I definitely prefer terminator one to terminator two. unusual i know. T2 = epic.
queenmcsleaze 1 year ago
@Hellothasauras He was in T2. In the special edition, he appeared in Sarah's dream telling her to never give up.
colmhearne 1 year ago 2
@Hellothasauras u never know now adays with "time travel" in movies im sure he will return but he too old now
savirjack 9 months ago
@Hellothasauras No Terminator is way better than Kyle Reece
greaserboys1 9 months ago
@Hellothasauras Your wrong it would've been epic
164juliet 9 months ago