@johnykonta57 yeah and so what! my friends runs it at 1920x1080! and he gets like 300FPS! and this PC in video is shit compared to my friend! impossible!
@AeroFix94 your not getting the point.. your friend is running this at a higher resolution so he is getting a decrease on fps. this video he is running the game at 1680x1050 which is why he is getting better fps than your friend
@johnykonta57 hmm so you telling me that the dual core is better than the quad core?? i dont think so! and the 8800gt is better than the GTX 260-216??? i dont fucking think so! and 2gb better than 4gb??? nah!
@AeroFix94 sigh... did you know css is an old game and can only optimize at 2 cores? so 4 ghz beats your friends quad at 2.5. So stfu. hes also running it at a lower resolution whichi s why hes getting a better FPS. so fuck off u retard
@johnykonta57 ahha he has OC it to 4ghz so that is kinda wierd to that he gets higher FPS! but that dosent make sense! the 8800gt is like BAD vs GTX 260 lol! and he has an better CPU at same ghz! this is wierd!
k im on intel core2quad 2.5 ghz , motherboard MB Gigabyte GA-G41M-ES2L , ram:4 GB DDR2 800MHz , graphics caRd Ati Radeon HD5750 1GB GDDR5 ,and how the heck do u have more FPS than i ?
@FoxuhCss why in gods name would you buy an alienware its a dell with a nice shiny nametag spend alot less and make it yourself its not hard and you get a better PC for the money
Not even close, a CD2 overclocked at 4ghz is like 2x faster than a phenom 2.3ghz when only 2 cores are used (this is the case for CSS and it barely use the 2nd core) and a 8800 GT is minimum 2x faster than a 9500GT wich is a low-end card of the GeForce 9 series. I'll say 240fps on a good day...
yeah when getting into the 100 fps range it starts to depend on how fast the cpu can feed the card information, or when the cpu itself is weaker than the graphics card its called a bottleneck.
lawlz i get like around 250+with my 9600gt OC a bit and my AMD64x2@2.3 with the resolution at 1920x1080 and 8xAA(for Both things) thats teh max for the AA
i currently get about 120 fps average with this rig at all lowest settings 1024x768 lol, but my pc has a 1.6ghz single core and a geforce 5700LE but im getting a new 1 soon
CS:S is heavy on the CPU, just look arround youtube and you'll see 9800GTX+ running CSS at lower frames then this rig due to slower clocked(and also weacker)CPUs.
Yep, that's true, my processor isn't that good, about 2 years old, but I have a 9800GT gfxcard and I still get bad framerates. But building new rig soon, so will make a video then :D
I remember when Half Life 2 came out (its not like it came out a longgg time ago come on people)- computers and video cards were having a hard time pushing and keeping 60 fps a second. Now our PC's can easily push past several hundred FPS no sweat. Its funny.
The camera picks up the sound a lot, it sounds louder in video then it does in person. But sound has never really bothered me, I where headphones when I game so i could care less. It's louder now that i got my 4870, and a Scythe Ultra Kaze, that pushes 133cfm at 45.9dba, i could use the damn fan to blow dry myself, its that powerful lol.
its not my fans, its a lot of others on youtube, keep tuned on my channel, im going to get a camera soon, dno how and when exactly but i know for sure i am and you'll see how my fans sounds like ;P
stfu x1Qbus1x, ur pc is probably some crappyyy ass windows 98 piece of shit which can't even play any simple games like minesweeper cuz it sucks balls... if ur pc is soo great then post a video of it u gay fag
dude that things a MONSTER but i hate to dissapoint you my lap top(alienware) went 477... but that is a kickass comp i whish i had a desktop and did u overclock this?
loll d/w man i am like u rite now but 8600gt 256mb and 2.9 pentium 4!!! and like 60hdd loll but soon u will upgrade man!! wen dat day comes it will be mad! and mine has! haah soon i bought my shit i got mad , 3.0 e8400 intel cpu 2gig ram kingston 4870 i hope or 4850 i dont know yet umm gigabyte - x48-ds5 motherboard!!! and 160ghdd and this mad case its hectic alright!!!
Can you maybe give me a link or something to a website where i can buy a pc custom made that can max out css (like 300Fps average on dust2 with 16 people) for under 3000$? CAnadian btw.
i can have 3k fps at good cfg with my gtx 560ti
dMkCSS 5 months ago
i have 688 fps video streess ati radeon 6870 and amd 1090T and all is full x16 x8 all detailed FULL TO MAX . IF i turn all off i got 980 fps..average
MakeSh00t 7 months ago
i will like to see how much it cost running the computer
mrthaiphone 9 months ago
omfg i got ATI HD5870 OC ,AMD Phenom II 965be @ 4ghz , 8gb ram and i got 196.24fps?!?!?! 8-0
cYezz 1 year ago
@cYezz css stress test is not reliable on newer systems.
1994fergo 1 year ago
lowest resolution!!??? he is fucking playing on 1680x1050 that isint lowest!!
AeroFix94 1 year ago
FAKE LIKE HELL!!!! SO FAKE!! My friend PC has
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550!
4GB DDR3 1333Mhz
XFX Geforce GTX 260-216 And he gets on 1920x1200 300FPS average on maxed out! every thing on maxed out! so this video is just fake!!! like hell!
AeroFix94 1 year ago
@AeroFix94 Your fucking stupid! hes running it at 160x1050..
johnykonta57 1 year ago
@johnykonta57 yeah and so what! my friends runs it at 1920x1080! and he gets like 300FPS! and this PC in video is shit compared to my friend! impossible!
AeroFix94 1 year ago
@AeroFix94 your not getting the point.. your friend is running this at a higher resolution so he is getting a decrease on fps. this video he is running the game at 1680x1050 which is why he is getting better fps than your friend
johnykonta57 1 year ago
@johnykonta57 hmm so you telling me that the dual core is better than the quad core?? i dont think so! and the 8800gt is better than the GTX 260-216??? i dont fucking think so! and 2gb better than 4gb??? nah!
AeroFix94 1 year ago
@AeroFix94 sigh... did you know css is an old game and can only optimize at 2 cores? so 4 ghz beats your friends quad at 2.5. So stfu. hes also running it at a lower resolution whichi s why hes getting a better FPS. so fuck off u retard
johnykonta57 1 year ago
@johnykonta57 ahha he has OC it to 4ghz so that is kinda wierd to that he gets higher FPS! but that dosent make sense! the 8800gt is like BAD vs GTX 260 lol! and he has an better CPU at same ghz! this is wierd!
AeroFix94 1 year ago
@AeroFix94 dude. hes just running it at a lower resolution which is why hes getting good fps. i have the same pc..
johnykonta57 1 year ago
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@johnykonta57 lowest resolution!!??? he is fucking playing on 1680x1050 that isint lowest!!!
AeroFix94 1 year ago
@AeroFix94 Lol, I think people like you are fun. I'm always laughing at them when I read comments like that. =P
ignace93 1 year ago
@ignace93 do so
AeroFix94 1 year ago
I want to have your PC!
jasper561996 1 year ago
I play css on 20 fps :( and play like pro :)
csslover123 1 year ago
I had like 100 fps average..!
funnyfootballs 1 year ago
@funnyfootballs lol i put -dxlevel 10 in console and got like 194 on average XD
leeoFaaneellii 1 year ago
@leeoFaaneellii css has dx10?
rukaras 1 year ago
My computer has 2.1 GHz Is that bad??
funnyfootballs 1 year ago
@funnyfootballs not rly. :)
monkeyporn93 1 year ago
i scored lower with my q6600 @ 3.4ghz and gts250 oc with all settings low. i got about 300fps.
avalableusername 1 year ago
why a 8800gt? srsly, OMFG...
S1lence696 1 year ago
what BIOS settings did u use to get it to 4GHZ? like what voltage?
TheGamesHD 1 year ago
How do you get the fps ( yellow ) in the left of your monitor???
MrMaKedone 1 year ago
@MrMaKedone with fraps
hyyWaVe 1 year ago
k im on intel core2quad 2.5 ghz , motherboard MB Gigabyte GA-G41M-ES2L , ram:4 GB DDR2 800MHz , graphics caRd Ati Radeon HD5750 1GB GDDR5 ,and how the heck do u have more FPS than i ?
a4tech357 1 year ago
its fake
bruzdo 1 year ago
i have 133.41 frames per second is that good or bad?
einarknutsen 1 year ago
@einarknutsen Considering the human eye can only see about either 30 or 60 frames per second, thats really good.
thatsistheguy 1 year ago
why does this lag on my computer and i can play crysis???
einarknutsen 1 year ago
Holy crap thats a loud fucker
thepunishment 1 year ago
lucky u , i play with max 60 fps and i own all :)
cssdfhlt 2 years ago
i have 133.41 frames per second is that good or bad? is it good with much fps or with low?? like what is best 60? or 133.41???
einarknutsen 1 year ago
Nothing special.
G19overnment90Man 2 years ago 2
css
alex47106 2 years ago
what comp is this? ^^ i'm buying an m17x alienware @ MAY <3 can't wait
FoxuhCss 2 years ago 2
lucky dick =D lemme come over and try it
WuuuTxMoDDeRzZ 2 years ago 2
He built his own. I wouldn't buy a prebuilt if I were you.
ibondurmom 2 years ago
@FoxuhCss why in gods name would you buy an alienware its a dell with a nice shiny nametag spend alot less and make it yourself its not hard and you get a better PC for the money
patches1711337 1 year ago
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mkine is way better than your's :D
spec:
z80 12mhz
motorola 68040 fpu 5mhz
16k dram (128byte x 64)
imb 8514 igp(intergrated graphic port)/w 4k share vram
microsoft dosu steve bullmer edition /w reversi!!
fps: n/a?
can i play this game? :P
hanrinch 2 years ago
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hanrinch 2 years ago
looks like a frige xDbutmid love to have 1
martin4143 2 years ago
this case is very fucking loud !
NEoxcss 2 years ago
what does aa/af means?
WasabisoupProduction 2 years ago
@WasabisoupProduction AA = Anti Aliasing, and AF = Anti Filter kinda thing
thefreakunlocked 2 years ago
AF = Anisoitropic Filtering.
foxhound1029 2 years ago
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TheAribom 2 years ago
those kinda case are not very good
KiLLerGcrx 2 years ago
fps_max 300 ---> 999
asdPlaya 2 years ago 2
How come I can't get more then 300 FPS in my source games?
Ultravideoslave 2 years ago
Too loud
Mokeejoe5 2 years ago
you need a better graphics card ;)
eshtibou 2 years ago
... why? 500 frames per second isnt enough? lol
artem1002 2 years ago
For what?
GoukiTehPwner 2 years ago
wtf really?!?! thats wierd your specs are way better than mine and i get up to 300 fps on my laptop haha
chp13u 2 years ago
bet your quality and resolution is much lower though
artem1002 2 years ago
you get more fps if you but better grapics card
putsipa 2 years ago
Good computer! :D
steyr177 2 years ago
e8500 @ 3,57
ati hd4830
not all max but almost
1024 x 768
fps_max 999
520-530 fps
about 490 fps stock cpu speed
NO FPS CONFIG
robalm1 2 years ago
/care?
360Gl0ry 2 years ago
ur monitor isnt as big as his
fnatte0 2 years ago
sv_sync 0
eXotic997 2 years ago
ssij
factiond12 2 years ago
AWESOME RIG
avid1029 2 years ago
lol i have a gtx 280 and i dont get that i get 230fps avg with gtx 280 all settings maxed
Mohagrus 2 years ago
I have a Nvidia Geforce 9600 Gt 512mb
1.86 Duo Core Processor
3 Gig Ram and i got 177 FPS ill make a vid to prove it
Cracklet09 2 years ago
i wanna know your fps if you put lowest settings :D
putsipa 2 years ago
wtf dude too much :D my AMD Phenom 9500 2.2GHz processor , 4gigs of ram and nvidia geforce 8800gt 512mg gets like 130 fps =D
z0mgPlaN 2 years ago
2.2GHz vs 4GHz makes a big difference, and its not about the cores... half life does not support 4 cores anyway.
g0rbak 2 years ago
hey nice graphics card man i am getting one soon and why does your fps got up to like 800
mine goes to 299 and stops.
please help me thanks
frostbite451 2 years ago
Because you can remove the framerate cap with "fps_max 0" without the quote aswell
MrBlackCrow 2 years ago
my specs are :
pentium D 2,8GHz
2gb ddr2 mem
9800gt 512mb
450watt pcu
standard mobo
250gb hdd
what can i upgrade for €200-300 i need mobo upgrade
THANKSS
123italiano321 2 years ago
i would go for the 680i or the 650i mobo, and you really need a cpu upgrade!! thouse pentium d cpus are rubbish!
toby1320 2 years ago
cant wait till i get my new pc, AMD phenom x3 3x2.3ghz, 2gb ram (lol) nvidia 9500gt oc'd. Anyone wreckon im gonna hit 1000fps on the stress test?
ollybayliss 2 years ago
nope lol not with a 9500
lgnkiller 2 years ago 4
Not even close, a CD2 overclocked at 4ghz is like 2x faster than a phenom 2.3ghz when only 2 cores are used (this is the case for CSS and it barely use the 2nd core) and a 8800 GT is minimum 2x faster than a 9500GT wich is a low-end card of the GeForce 9 series. I'll say 240fps on a good day...
MrBlackCrow 2 years ago
you were right
ollybayliss 2 years ago
yeah when getting into the 100 fps range it starts to depend on how fast the cpu can feed the card information, or when the cpu itself is weaker than the graphics card its called a bottleneck.
n11lc 2 years ago
NOOB! didnt even go past 1000.
nah, just kidding, that's awsome! :D
palleroporo 2 years ago
cool!_)_
porolok 2 years ago
OH MY GOD!!! :O That's SO cool man 5 stars =D
Jenga300995 2 years ago
about graphics having fps higher that 60 is less smoother for human eye to see
pr0surf3r 2 years ago
actually you can only see up to your moniters hz
n11lc 2 years ago
no over 60 everything is less smooth and you lose few frames as the fps keeps growing up
pr0surf3r 2 years ago
what
n11lc 2 years ago
WOW!!
ccim2 2 years ago
e8400 or q9300 AARRRRGH can't decide!! I'm gonna play CSS and GTA IV and I got a 8800GT OC
bitchslapper12 2 years ago
E8400 is better in game but if you like multi task, go quad
thomas744 2 years ago
WRONG
GTA 4 NEEDS A QUADCORE
N3R02006 2 years ago
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I don't give a fuck of this shitty game sorry.
game for retarded
thomas744 2 years ago
ur retarded
Master1906 2 years ago 5
GTA4 is a shitty port to PC.
Graphics settings are gay.
Get it on console if you're desperate.
Get an e8400.
xm4legendx 2 years ago 2
yeh
thomas744 2 years ago
nope ! most Intel dualcore's will do ! unlike the amd processors ive got :S
xboX121212 2 years ago
oh and that aint the REAL stress test. the REAL one is called source SDK BASE.. or was it just regular SDK.. oh well its one of those
ki11joy92 2 years ago
lawlz i get like around 250+with my 9600gt OC a bit and my AMD64x2@2.3 with the resolution at 1920x1080 and 8xAA(for Both things) thats teh max for the AA
ki11joy92 2 years ago
how can u score 488? and whats max_fps 1000? plz explain
copperhead88 2 years ago
I got 254fps average with E8400 not OCed, 4GB RAM, 8800GT.
But I had 4xAA and 4x aniscopic filtering.
TheAussie00 2 years ago
graceunderpressurex
LMAO that's because this guy doesn't have AA or AF on. It says turn it off do the same res. as him and you should beat him.
youcandownloadthis 2 years ago
I wish I could overclock my i7 extreme to at least 4 ghz...
copperhead88 2 years ago
thats even with fraps running. Impressive.
alehax27 2 years ago
omfg i have 80 fps in cs T_T
and u 999 wtf aaaaWAWNJADIODJAOSJDASIJDIJWIJDAJDWI
fucking pc
i go to buy other pc MY PC SUCKSAOPIOSDJEADSMAK
dany3241291 2 years ago
i currently get about 120 fps average with this rig at all lowest settings 1024x768 lol, but my pc has a 1.6ghz single core and a geforce 5700LE but im getting a new 1 soon
KronicKillaz 2 years ago
thats a good card
jetblast44 2 years ago
mine? HA! its the cheapest version of the 5700 and is about 5 yrs. old...unless u were being sarcastic i dont think so
KronicKillaz 2 years ago
lol, compared to mine i would kill for that card. seriously.
jetblast44 2 years ago
damn...wtf...damn u must get like 20 fps...on Pong lol
KronicKillaz 2 years ago
probably.. lmfao
jetblast44 2 years ago
like me hhhh
Hldv12 2 years ago
how much did it cost 4 all of this?
llREBll 2 years ago
i dribbled a little bit
llREBll 2 years ago
how much did it cost that pc?
Dream2890 2 years ago
Well 8800GT is not even near high end but the CPU clocked at 4 Ghz surely pushed the performance....I'd bet you pwn in CS:S.
kalimul 3 years ago
lol
erniethefart 3 years ago
CS:S is heavy on the CPU, just look arround youtube and you'll see 9800GTX+ running CSS at lower frames then this rig due to slower clocked(and also weacker)CPUs.
kalimul 3 years ago
yer i have a 4.2ghz CPU and a GeForce 8800GT (Leadtek) 1gb RAM, it plays cs fine, but not that good with 1600x1200 and full AA and AF...
erniethefart 3 years ago
lol? When you get the exact same rig with the exact same specs as this guy and you don't have the same performance then complain.....
kalimul 3 years ago
i'm not complaining, i don't expect these results lol :p deerrrr
erniethefart 3 years ago
i didnt get that high and my specs are:
2 X 8800gt
e8400 @ 4.0ghz
3gigs corsair ram 800
750i evga motherboard... you can see if you want, my avg was 280 but thats still good
graceunderpressurex 2 years ago
ahk nice, yer my average is like 130fps, but i only have one 8800GT and only 1gb RAM, ddr400. mother board is average, but i have 4.2ghz processor
erniethefart 2 years ago
I don't know if you get asked this alot but how did you get that much fps?
chanaman12345 3 years ago
this proves it, CS Source IS a CPU game. the more clock speed, the more FPS you get
palleroporo 3 years ago
Yep, that's true, my processor isn't that good, about 2 years old, but I have a 9800GT gfxcard and I still get bad framerates. But building new rig soon, so will make a video then :D
cssima 3 years ago
I remember when Half Life 2 came out (its not like it came out a longgg time ago come on people)- computers and video cards were having a hard time pushing and keeping 60 fps a second. Now our PC's can easily push past several hundred FPS no sweat. Its funny.
illmagnified 3 years ago
holy sh1t ! i want that computer!! whre you live??
ionut15cr 3 years ago
im running at 1080p and i struggle to get 200fps in this benchmark ?
rainbowrampage1 3 years ago
well it's probably your CPU
erniethefart 3 years ago
This isn't much of a benchmark for this rig. Do something more power hungry.
NubHubGaming 3 years ago 2
WTF IS THAT NOISE!!!
Dominionlord 3 years ago
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crazyfrengy1 3 years ago
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They're called fans, and they're used for cooling your computer so it doesn't spontaneously combust.
crazyfrengy1 3 years ago
lmao.
SynCroNiz3 3 years ago
Yeah, i know whats causing the noise -_- ...
these fans are just so fucking noisy
Dominionlord 3 years ago
Lol i really don't mind the fans if i have loud ones. I like the sounds of this kind of machinery =]
crazyfrengy1 3 years ago
The camera picks up the sound a lot, it sounds louder in video then it does in person. But sound has never really bothered me, I where headphones when I game so i could care less. It's louder now that i got my 4870, and a Scythe Ultra Kaze, that pushes 133cfm at 45.9dba, i could use the damn fan to blow dry myself, its that powerful lol.
SynCroNiz3 3 years ago
i like the sound of the fans too, the air its pushing, but i dont like the...ehm...overloading,buzzing sound you know?
Dominionlord 3 years ago
I know, i'm just expressing my own opinion =P . And ROFL at your fan speeds.
crazyfrengy1 3 years ago
its not my fans, its a lot of others on youtube, keep tuned on my channel, im going to get a camera soon, dno how and when exactly but i know for sure i am and you'll see how my fans sounds like ;P
Dominionlord 3 years ago
I was talking about SynCroNiz3's fans but ok =P
crazyfrengy1 3 years ago
a bit noisy :)
matehim 3 years ago
i run a bfg gtx295 oc, 12 gb of g. skill ram and a intel core i7 920 oc
TheReanimator30 3 years ago
I get 90 fps avg with my 8800 GTS 640 mb Super Clocked Edition @ 1600x1200 and 16xAA and 16xAF
firestormcomputers 3 years ago
wie bekommt man die fps so hoch ich habe immer 60fps standart
Niklas17932 3 years ago
lol, I had like 728.63 with my xfx 260 gtx xxx <333
aGcss 3 years ago
Lies :)
thugricanz 3 years ago
good good but you need a new video card
tyleriscool45 3 years ago
dam nice fps i only get 1-20 fps lol i hav a 11 mb video card PCi nothing more :( ima get me a new compo wit a HD4850X2
DJSKEE2121 3 years ago
Don't get 4850x2. saw is worst then 280gtx
you could get 260gtx core 216 for $2xx :P it is like 280gtx .. if u OC it will beat it.
thugricanz 3 years ago
well in that case 4870X2 is for me :D cause rite now i dont want nvidia
DJSKEE2121 3 years ago
i just got 260gtx core 216 it beats 4870! :)
i scored 17k... in 3dmark06. :)
just like a 280gtx.. or better so why waste alot when new cards coming out soon ? :)
I bought this for now.. then will step up.
that's y evga owns ^^
thugricanz 3 years ago
disregard that. only saw that it said CoD in the tags, not counter strike in the desc. my bad. haha
xxsexyxtacoxx 3 years ago
thats not a CoD stress test, as your tags imply. its CS:S :P
xxsexyxtacoxx 3 years ago
beautiful
rockstarmyles 3 years ago
stfu x1Qbus1x, ur pc is probably some crappyyy ass windows 98 piece of shit which can't even play any simple games like minesweeper cuz it sucks balls... if ur pc is soo great then post a video of it u gay fag
daforeignkid 3 years ago
Your graphc card suxxor.
Your PC is so loud...
My PC after overclocked is quiet, i dont hear it also at night, and i haven't water cooling system.
I don't know why you are giving videos like that on youtube, your pc sucks, and CSS is a game for newbies...
x1Qbus1x 3 years ago
Don't you feel cool.
SynCroNiz3 3 years ago
you pwned him lol,
Rugbymadone 3 years ago
please shut up x1Qbus1x, you dont know what ur on about.
fjhemswo 3 years ago
4850 owns, and his pc is NOt loud turn down your speakers dumbass
DonkeyBonrProduction 3 years ago
dude that things a MONSTER but i hate to dissapoint you my lap top(alienware) went 477... but that is a kickass comp i whish i had a desktop and did u overclock this?
LimitedEdition500 3 years ago
In the title "oc'd" He overclocked it yes
Skylinerev 3 years ago
This is my computer.
Celeron 2,8 GHz
512 MB DDR RAM
ATI Radeon 9550 GE 256 MB
Samsung SATA-2 160 GB HDD
A big shit,I know xDDDD
kinyallak 3 years ago
wrxrulz99 3 years ago
Dude your pc is a vaccuum lol...
Can you maybe give me a link or something to a website where i can buy a pc custom made that can max out css (like 300Fps average on dust2 with 16 people) for under 3000$? CAnadian btw.
RuneScapERoxoR 3 years ago
LOL
PcHardwareReviews 3 years ago
i have better system specs but i have lower fps ??
Jamepeidei 3 years ago
What are your specs?
SynCroNiz3 3 years ago
quad core 2.40ghz 8mb cache
8800gt alpha dog edition
corsair xms2 DHX 4gb
asus formula maximus
Thermaltake Purepower 550W 14cm silent fan
hard disk samsung 1 terabyte 32mb cache
2xThermaltake 80mm and Thermaltake hard disk cooler full aluminum
Titan aluminum 120x120x25mm 79.14 air flow
Help me plzz....
Jamepeidei 3 years ago
your specs are better, im on the Q6600 aswell
CSS is a single threaded game, meaning only one core will be used. His cpu is clocked at 4ghz compared to 2.4ghz
anything above 60fps is not reconigzed unless your on a higher refresh rate.
brutalbludeybutler 3 years ago
ohhh!! at cs all at maximum exept AA
Jamepeidei 3 years ago
and if you got a lcd screen, you will get some serious tearing if you got 600 fps on a 60hz refresh rate
emretzzon 3 years ago
There is no difference between 60 and 200 fps. You CANNOT see any difference between them
emretzzon 3 years ago