fuck hoales....they do the stupidest shit ever.....haoles are sick fukaz.....they so rude.....fuk, too much hawaiians let all theese haoles take advantage of us.. Fuk u haolez go back to mainland white peice of shitz.
When/why did Hawaiians stop using guns? The Hawaiian Islands were first unified by the gun. The haoles Isaac Davis and John Young trained King Kamehameha and his warriors how to use the haole weapons. Kamehameha then had the technological advantage needed to overtake the other islands. At least arm yourself with a Hawaiian war club.
i hate the hawaiians that hate on the haoles. i thought you people were forgiving and loving people. wheres the aloha? not all haoles are bad and evil. some of them have hawaiian in them too so yah...
@datsomayjah Go do some research before posting uneducated comments. Hawaii was on good terms with pretty much all foreign powers due mostly in part to the actions of King David Kalakaua. It was only until president Benjamin Harrison and the illegal overthrow in 1893 that relationships between the Kingdom of Hawaii and the USA soured. President Grover Cleveland, who served both before and after Harrison, was on very friendly terms with both Kalakaua and Liliuokalani.
"Go back to Europe, stupid haole." Now, isn't that silly. What if a Hawaiian person is married to a European person? You want them to divorce their spouse and send them back to Europe? I may not be Hawaiian, but I don't think all my Hawaiian uncles, aunties and cousins want to kick me out. We've been here six generations. Blaming a race for your ills is silly, because no one chooses their race. I'm on your side, because you guys are my ohana, literally. Aloha
@moatwog The guy you're quoting is a "haole". Read his other quotes and you can read about how much of a racist white supremacist he is saying that Americans are the "policemen of the world" because they invade foreign countries, incite rebellions, and overthrow governments all while enforcing their own distorted view of what's right and what's wrong. It's fun to read what uneducated, ignorant remarks he makes though. As a friend of mine said, it's "funny reading material".
"racist white supremacist he is saying that Americans are the policemen of the world"
You distorting dickhead, I said we shouldn't be the policemen of the world. And how does American equal racist white supremacist? The US should have let Imperial Japan take the islands. Then you and the other Japanese haole “Hawaiians” could give the same compassion that the Chinese got in Nanking.
@SkipHawaii The fact that you refer to Americans as policemen rather than invaders, the fact that you insist you people are not doing anything wrong in your own self-righteous imperialist philosophy, and the fact that you portray yourself as a pro-Hawaiian nation advocate and racially attack any non-Hawaiian with the obvious intent of trying to make Hawaiians look like the bad guys is reason enough. You act like America is doing the world a favor by going to war and killing foreign civilians.
Like I just said, Hawaii would have been better off if the imperialist US had let the peace loving Japanese take over the island in WW2.
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I've always said I want Hawaii out of the US, you’re the one that said “I personally don't necessarily want independence.” I guess it’s because deep down you’re a warmongering imperialist American.
@SkipHawaii The issue here isn't just independence. I've said that multiple times. You're the idiot who refuses to acknowledge the amount of damage the US has done to the islands without taking any responsibility for their actions. And yeah I guess everything I've said about Americans' unprovoked invasion of foreign nations and murder of civilians being wrong makes me a warmongering imperialist American huh? It's like you can't read or something. Maybe that's why you can't "google shit".
So what are the horrors of being a state in the US? Roads, sewers, water, electricity, schools, hospitals? Hawaii has a poverty level of 8.6% and an average income of 63k. Being part of the US made this possible. Does this come at a cost to the environment? Of course, living in any developed nation has its problems.
Hawaii would have been better off without the US? Take a look at its neighbors.
@SkipHawaii The difference between mainland US and Hawaii is that mainland US is a continent. You guys have the millions upon millions of acres of land to develop while still maintaining self-sufficiency. Hawaii does not. The reason other Oceanic states have all those issues is because of industrialization. Hawaii, Samoa, Tahiti, etc. were all perfectly self-sufficient prior to overdevelopment under foreign rule. cont.
@SkipHawaii Once more, Hawaii had the highest literacy rate in the world along with the first public schools under a compulsory education system. Everyone in the community worked (usually only about 12 hours a week due to the abundance of resources) and access to fresh water was NEVER a major problem here. Just look at the island of Kaua'i. Mt. Wai'ale'ale is one of the wettest (if not the wettest) spots on earth with Na Wai 'Eha on Maui only a few inches of rainfall drier.
@SkipHawaii The issue isn't American missionaries nor is it American citizens (both of which Hawaiians were generally on good terms with). The issue is American imperialists such as former president Benjamin Harrison and present day American imperialism (of which no one but Americans were ever on good terms with) that rose to prominence after the Civil War. Prior to the shift in power in favor of American businessmen, relationships between Hawaii and America were always warm.
@Rachulie Because they try to justify their own racism by trying to show that everyone else is racist too. I mean if you look at racism here and in the mainland, it's not even comparable. In the mainland US, people get killed every day because of hate crimes regarding race. That doesn't happen here.
@Rachulie When did I say it was OK? If you read the comments I've been posting for, oh, 2 weeks now, it's all anti-racism/pro-community remarks. I've got friends of almost every "major" race you can think of: White, Black, Oriental, Pacific Islander, Native American, Latin American, Arab, Israeli, etc. I think what really brings racism into perspective is observing it in its different forms. Having friends of different ethnic backgrounds exposes you to racism from each race towards another.
@Rachulie Many don't even realize how racist they really are until you take the time to show them. I think half the battle of combating racism is getting people to acknowledge and identify its existence. After that it's not too hard to get them to change unless they're some sort of blatant neo-Nazi or something.
@mauiboynokaoi true. i always try to do that with the ppl i know. but ppl never want to accept something about themselves. i have a bunch of black friends who hate white ppl but like me bc im arab. i tell them how retarded that is because my dna is just as much white as arab. they always make excuses. they say "black ppl cant be racist." honostly i used to hate white ppl too, but then i realized how stupid that was. now i just hate honkies. lol.
@Rachulie I know what you mean. A lot of people think only white people can be racist. Yes white people may have started racism as we know it today, but people fail to see that due to European cultural expansion, many others have started emulating the white people and their philosophies (including racism). I always found that ironic. That people would be racist towards white people by way of emulating the white person.
@mauiboynokaoi never thought of it that way (emulating white ppl) its annoying. i have reasons to be racist, but i realized it's a waste of emotion. (watched american history x lol.) also, many people dont know ppl of all cultures can be similar. when i was living in a majority black city, getting bullied every time i went out, i thought thats the way black ppl act. then i moved to a better town where all colors and cultures dont bash each other as much, i was in shock.
@Rachulie In the end it's not so much what ethnicity you are, but where you come from: more specifically the culture that you grow up around. That's why I've always seen racism as a result of growing up with racists. Whether those racists be white, black, asian, etc. doesn't matter. Just being around racism will eventually make people racist I suppose.
@mauiboynokaoi it totally is culture. and the less ignorant racists understand that they hate a culture and not just the color of ppl. like ppl i knew in hawaii, most hated haole culture but not whites just for the hell of it. it's how u act. i can agree. it's dangerous tho, when u just assume everyone who looks alike has the same culture. and even back in ga its the same.
@Rachulie I'm sure someone already has lol. Anyway I stick to what I've already said. Racism, prejudice, even sovereignty are all tertiary to taking care of the land and preserving self-sustainability. Almost like someone takes your car, crashes it all up, wrecks the transmission, and rips the radio to sell for a quick buck and then offers to return it without fixing it up first.
@Rachulie Well, it's because two things. First not all locals, whether they be Hawaiian or not are open to Haole people, period. They are unable to see past their ignorance, racist minds, and see the person as a person, not by what their ethnicity is. It's similar to people saying Hawaiians or local people are racist to white people. They are ignorant and small minded, unable to see that not every local and Hawaiian person is the same.
@Rachulie Small towns have very open minded people too. I think, rather than where one is from, it is the individual person themselves. It's sad though, that ignorance blinds so much people. I love people as long as they don't aren't rude to me or my family, racist, sexist, or such like that. :)
First of all I never said anything about the Kingdom...I talked about KOKO....2nd my experience comes from my time on this Earth...54 years...3rd, Ali`i spoke in the plural: "We" not me...4th if you think you know Hawaiian then you are thinking too hard!!!! I addressed Homelessness due to something I read on this page...if it don't pertain to what you were talking about then FUCK YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! THAT is the problem with you "So-called Hawaiian's" with no Koko...so smart you stupid...
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE So wait a second, you come to a video addressing the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Hawaii and comment on a subject regarding nationality, independence, and cultural identity, start talking about race and genealogy, and then say that we're not talking about the Kingdom at all? Yeah I'm the stupid one. Irrelevant personal attacks aside, citation on your claims please? My claims are backed by Hawaiian newspapers and doctrine. cont.
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE What's yours on? The opinion of a few people in your area? Maybe you people do things different on the Big Island but the Hawaiians I know here are perfectly fine with accepting "locals" into their culture whether they be pake, kepani, haole, popolo, etc. Hell one of my hanai parents growing up when I was little was a full-blooded Hawaiian and by way of marriage, I've got Hawaiians in my family. Hell my little brother is 40% Hawaiian. cont.
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE So far none of them have had a problem with me calling myself a Hawaiian rather than an American and a few of them actually come to me to learn a bit about their cultural roots. I'm about to head up to one of my distant uncle's lo'i kalo (just found out he owns one a couple days ago) to further my education on kalo cultivation. Again maybe you guys do things different on the Big Island, but here, to be Hawaiian is to have mana and mana can be gained through your actions.
@akinajj1 LOL well it all started with one "American" dissing Hawaiians as "uneducated primitive" people. Then it strung into a discussion about my ethnicity in which a native Hawaiian argues against me (which I found kind of ironic). I just wouldn't want people to get the wrong impression of Hawaiians like that skiphawaii guy did: "Locals hate white people and the United States of America. They do not want you to live there, your kids will be bullied regularly at school."
Awesome! You finally got a “lol” in. And yes, mad props to you for having the balls to disrespecting a native Hawaiian and proving that you’re more Hawaiian than he is. Boy did you show him. I hope you told of your victory to all the other Hawaiians in your Hawaiian studies classes. Please rethink your stance on independence. I really think Hawaiians like you need to be free from the US.
@SkipHawaii I'm not repeating myself on my stance regarding Hawaiian independence. I've stated it at least 5 times already. Go back and read. As for "disrespecting a native Hawaiian", it seems you're still stuck in your little "race is everything" bubble. Race is not really important at all. Just as a black person in America doesn't necessarily wear a dashiki and believe in Islam, a native Hawaiian doesn't necessarily understand his culture and religion. cont.
@SkipHawaii Second I don't need to tell any of my Hawaiian friends about things like this. We all know Hawaiians who take advantage of their lineage as an excuse to call out the "evil haoles". Hell there's an entire museum dedicated to one of those "haoles" here known as the Bailey House Museum (do some research on Edward Bailey for more info). Again, race has nothing to do with anything. As for this "Ehu" Cardwell guy, no he does not. cont.
@SkipHawaii While some of the things he says have some foundation, much are merely personal opinion no different from the majority of your comments. While many times we do have common "enemies" so to speak, I'm not the one attacking others based on their personal associations (again something you've done regularly). In case you don't get the hint, it doesn't matter where you're from, opinion is opinion. Without facts to back it up, it makes no sense to present it as such.
I kind of see what you’re saying. So a European that majors in Native American studies, has Native American relatives, practices Native American culture and whose family has lived in the area for 100 or so years is in fact more Native American than a Navajo that live in the suburbs of Denver.
@SkipHawaii Yes. Just as an American member of the Aryan Brotherhood with white supremacist friends and years of lynching and hate crimes under his belt is more a Nazi than author of "The Perfect Nazi" Martin Davidson whose grandfather was a SS officer in Hitler's army.
@SkipHawaii Just got through with a discussion about this with a friend of mine who is half Mestizo and half Oaxacan. Here is the response straight from the horse's mouth: " it depends on how you want to argue it. for me i would say the the eruopean. mostly because i was raised with cacasian parents so i act more white than Mexican. my mum is my mum and my birth mother is the person that gave birth to me, but she isn't my mum, she didn't raise me." cont.
@SkipHawaii "if someone has studied a certain culture for so long that it feels more real to them than their biology then perhaps they are 'more native american' than some one who is biologically so."
Hmm… this is all getting a bit confusing. Although most mainland whites are Nazis isn’t Nazism a political ideology? And how does one act Mexican? Maybe there are classes for it like you took for your Hawaiian certification.
@SkipHawaii Now you're just making it a point to act stupid. It's like you're not even trying to make a point anymore. Just spewing nonsense to convince yourself that you're right about everything in the world since you obviously can't convince anyone else. So I'll just leave you to your ridiculous talks of how Americans are better than every other people in the world especially Hawaiians. And remember. You're right about everything and you don't need evidence because you're American.
@SkipHawaii Yes sir Mr. American sir. You're always right despite all evidence pointing otherwise. You're so righteous and morally correct. That's why all the other nations love you guys. I want to grow up to be just like you oh wise one. Please. Invade our country and oppress our people. I mean it's for the good of the world right?
I keep saying I want Hawaii out of the US, you’re the one that’s said otherwise. Should the US stop being the policeman of the world? Hell yes, never said different. As for whether or not the world loves the US, I could care less.
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In 1966, Charles de Gaulle took France out of NATO and demanded that all U.S. troops must be evacuated from French soil. US Secretary of State Dean Rusk asked De Gaulle if that included the ones buried there.
@SkipHawaii I never said otherwise. I said I don't really care who is in charge, as long as they fix this place and restore it to what it once was. If the US can repair the damage they have done and stop doing more to the land, I'm sure a lot of us would be real happy here. Until the US can prove otherwise, I can only assume that the Kingdom of Hawaii's legislature would do a better job of taking care of the land than the US is doing right now.
“I'm more Hawaiian than most of the Hawaiians here"
The only reason you preach that anyone can be Hawaiian is because you yourself have no blood. You gladly live in the modern world yet blame everyone but yourself for what comes with it. Hawaii will never get off the US tit, but will bitch and moan every day they suck from it. What an island of hypocritical assholes.
@SkipHawaii Hmmm. So you say that the US should "stop being the policemen of the world" and then bitch and moan about nations "never getting off the US tit" despite the fact that the majority of the nations "on the US tit" don't want anything to do with US imperialism at all. Yes we're such hypocrites because we don't go out illegally militarily occupying other nations and then bitching about them costing us a fortune in military expenditures. Yep we're definitely the hypocrites huh?
So you’re saying most people that live in Hawaii, unlike you, would vote for an independent Hawaii? That’s great news. Oahu has roughly 1 million people, how many have hit the streets demanding independence?
Also, you say that you are more Hawaiian than other Japanese haoles by the fact that your people have been there for 5 generations. So what year was that?
@SkipHawaii I'm saying that most Hawaiian nationals would yes. Of course the haoles who just bought their timeshare here or bought their new condo aren't going to vote in favor. People who rely on mainland corporations for power also wouldn't be in favor either. Ironic though it may sound, the fairest way of taking a vote would be to poll native Hawaiians. As for what year it was, it was some time between 1885 and 1890. The only written document is my great grandfather's cont.
According to the rules that determine state residency people that own time shares, vote in another state, live there for school or work with the Fed (including US soldiers) are not state residence and not eligible to vote. Not sure what you mean by a Hawaiian national, but if just 3% of the state residence that live on Oahu came out to protest for independence that would be 30,000 people and would surely make global news.
Having only native Hawaiians be allowed to vote makes sense, but would it only be the few thousand pure bloods left or would a 1/16 blood get a 1/16th vote?
As long as the vote would be for independence I guess it wouldn’t matter how it got rigged. Haoles like you would lose their US citizenship right? And no more US military base right? Hawaii could keep the billions in Fed aid and knowing most think it’s nothing would a $5B parting gift be enough?
@SkipHawaii Great grandfather smartass. That's 4th generation. And that's the earliest written document ever found. Considering his grandpa was the one who moved here, I don't think his son had a kid at the age of 8. And Hawaiian national meaning anyone determined as a Hawaiian citizen by way of the Hawaiian constitution. For someone who keeps telling people to "google shit" you sure don't do a lot of it yourself do you?
Also, does the Hawaiian Ehu Kekahu Cardwell of the Koani Foundation teach at your school? His videos are wonderful. It’s Hawaiians like you and Ehu Kekahu that capture the true voice of the Hawaiian people. And even more mad props to you for teaching Hawaiians their cultural roots and showing them how to be Hawaiian. You truly are more Hawaiian than Hawaiians.
There are some who just don't get it....some who want to claim Hawaiian as their "Nationality as their "Right." But no matter how many Hawaiian phrases you can quote @ me you are still 100% Japanese blood... Without Koko Ali`i don't tell us you have rights...
As for Homelessness..that's not what Hawaiian's are...many of those without a home didn't choose it...I have a roof over my head, but what the US Military did to my family is unspeakable...took our beachfront land...Keokea in Niuli`i...
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE WTF are you even talking about homelessness? I said nothing about homelessness. I also explained that the military is responsible for 80% of the problems here in Hawaii for Hawaiian nationals. It's like you're telling me I'm wrong, then telling me I'm right. Also if you took the time to translate what I said, I already mentioned royal lineage and addressed that to descend from Papa and Wakea is to descend from foreigners. cont.
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE Wahi a he kumulipo, the first to arrive on the earth were Ki'i (Tiki), La'ila'i, Kane (Tane), and Kanaloa (Tangaroa). The legend is not exclusive to Hawaiians though as it is believed all throughout Oceania. Papa and Wakea were from kahiki (a foreign land) as were Pele and Maui. The first Hawaiian is believed by the majority to be Haloa descendant of Wakea and Ho'ohokukalani. He is the first Hawaiian for he is the first born here. cont.
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE If that's not enough, the major figure in Hawaiian history Pa'ao who brought a "pure" chief over to replace the "corrupted" Hawaiian chiefs was again from a foreign land. There was no trace of racism within Hawaiian beliefs until European contact. The only thing genealogy sought to prove was worthiness to rule. It did not determine whether you were human or not. As for "having rights", all people had inalienable rights by way of the constitution written by Kamehameha 3.
God hath endowed all men with certain inalienable rights; among which are life, liberty, and the right of acquiring, possessing, and protection property, and of pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness.
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE All men are free to worship God according to the dictates of their own conscience; but this sacred privilege hereby secured, shall not be so construed as to justify acts of licentiousness, of practices inconsistent with the peace or safety of the Kingdom.
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE Each member of society has a right to be protected by it, in the enjoyment of his life, liberty, and property,according to law; and, therefore, he shall be obliged to contribute his proportional share to the expenses of this protection, and to give his personal services, or an equivalent when necessary; but no part of the property of any individual shall be taken from him, or applied to public uses, without his own consent, or the enactment of the Legislative Assembly
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE You seem to know your lineage. It is good that you have not lost it. But before you go around talking as if you speak on behalf of all subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom do some research as to what the kingdom was truly like.
Of course the US imports oil because its uses more than it has. I never said otherwise. The facts I stated are correct. You said the US imports 90+% of goods and resources. You are wrong.
I also said that the oil/energy situation is coming to its end cycle. That is the US will be forced to find alternative energy. I also said that would be exciting times (i.e. jobs) for those with education and vision.
The only way to survive here is to restore the 'aina, and malama the ahupua'a, which means to restore the streams and reefs, fish ponds, and lo'i. If we don't, no one here is going to survive the inevitable collapse of the corporation known as UNITED STATES, INC. Waikiki must be again full of kalo instead of hotels, and "Pearl Harbor" full of oysters with huge pearls and a thriving reef instead of nuclear war machines and a PERPETUAL OIL SPILL. Fish and poi is real. Money is not.
@ageeeeeeeeee fuck you. dont talk down on us! we are well educated! we got fathers fighing in iraq and afganistan! shame on you! dont profile us! i goin put you to sleep
@bcefra hahahahhah bullshit u fuckers dont all they do in hawaii is work min wage and just do shit. LOL at well educated thats why they speak shitty and have the lowest test scores than any other state
@ageeeeeeeeee h0 hata shaddup be4 i give u one crack medavac, i bet im smarter and more intellectual then you are cuz and u is messin wid one ha-y-n so back off or take da challenge bulleh
Wow, are you really that incapable of using the English language? It’s funny how you guys bitch so much about the hand that feeds you. Think that’s going to last? Fuel costs keep going up and wages keep going down. The haoles will stop coming, no haole money means no haole food. Hawaii is doomed. Your life is going to change in ways you can’t imagine now. Enjoy.
Don't matter idiot! Hawaii depends on the Japanese anyway...In fact its the very opposite! It's US that needs Hawaii most important militarily. They were doing fine before you white yanks arrived anyway moron! Bet you don't even know that Hawaii is an Asian majority state. You angry white peeps are the minority. LOL! And this is coming from a native German in Germany but even as a European, even I know this stuff. It's obvious you are an uneducated idiot no matter the ethnicity.
It's the US government, not the Japanese propping up the state with massive federal aid. As for Hawaii's importance as a military base, those days are rapidly fading. Americans are tired of being the policeman of the world and getting spit on. Let’s see how strong your economy is after you bail out the PIGS and America’s military shield goes away.
@SkipHawaii who cares if we speak pigeon in hawaii it doesn't matter, since when did language define intelligence? youre one of those guys stuck in the 20's race, language, background doesnt mean that you cant make something of yourself anymore. you would be surprised how bright the kids in hawaii are. if given a chance theyd be smarter than mainland kids. make mainland kids take an sat in pigeon then we see whos test scores are higher. btw the us government is in a $8 trillion debt
Sorry, US text books are in English, having good English skills means you can read and learn. It wouldn’t matter if the books were in pigeon though. Many Hawaiian locals are raised to ridicule education. Why else would they score at the bottom of the US? As for the 14T (not 8) in US debt, having a state that imports 90% of its food, has no industry, survives off mainland dollars and ranks dead last in education isn’t helping.
@SkipHawaii how literate you are has nothing to do with how smart someone is. b/c blacks, hawaiians, rednecks are "illeterate" theres a language barrier on tests which are made for the middle class white man to accel in. if you break it down to critical thinking skills and problem solving you'll see that these kids aren't as dumb as you think they are. by helpless state i think you mean alaska. hawaii has an industry known as the tourist industry if you didn't know which makes plenny money.
@SkipHawaii oh yeah its only 14T now because of inflation, which is due to the US government, who keep using paper money and credit, stuff with face value, but nothing to back it up. yes please save hawaii from all the import and export taxes that we wouldn't recieve if we didn't have to dig the US government out of the hole they dug themselves into. all the US has is food which they waste btw, they have no natural resources probably 95% of the natural resources the US uses is imported.
It truly is hilarious to see how uneducated you mokes are. US natural recourse are huge. Coal, copper, lead, molybdenum, phosphates, uranium, bauxite, gold, iron, mercury, nickel, potash, silver, tungsten, zinc, petroleum, natural gas, timber and the largest GDP in the world (3 times larger than China).
@SkipHawaii are you serious? we make up only about 15% of coal production in the world which is behind china not like that matters because we consume more than we put out and the world is moving away from coal. we aren't a top producer of any metal idk where you got that idea but you were very misinformed the most we produce of the metals are gold but china produces 12 tonne's more gold than we do. lets see the only fuel that matters, petroleum, we are the top importer and bottom exporter
@mkeets The world’s biggest coal reserves: 1. United States – 243 billion tonnes 2 .Russia – 157 gigatonnes 3. China – 114 gigatonnes Nuclear megawatt capacity: 1. US - 101,229 Russia - 23,084 China - 10,234 The 2007 report of the Potential Gas Committee of the Colorado School of Mines determined that the U.S. hass a natural gas resource base of 1,525 Trillion cubic feet of natural in the U.S. (about an 82 year supply). And stop with this "we" shit and get the fuck out of the US.
@SkipHawaii if we have so many natural resources and energy supplies why do we have to import so much petroleum (source of energy)? why does almost every electronic well any good for that matter in the US say "Made In China" according to you we have the resources to produce these goods so why do we get it from china? why is our big debt getting bigger when energy and resources=money in todays economy? your head is so far up your okole no make sense trying to reason with you.
The US imports petroleum because it’s currently the cheapest way to supply its energy needs. Many US corporations make their goods in China because it’s currently the cheapest way to produce them. This is called capitalism. Both these situations are coming to their end cycle. Exciting changes are coming for those with education and vision. For mokes stuck on a rock . . . not so good.
@SkipHawaii we import petroleum because its our only source of energy. we make goods in china because they are the only country with the resources to make products. please enlighten me with your great plan to get out of debt. btw you said "having a state that imports 90% of its food, has no industry, survives off mainland dollars and ranks dead last in education isn’t helping." what is the us doing? importing 90+% of goods and resources and rank "average" in education among other countries
Why do you think the US is like Hawaii, devoid of resources? If you don’t believe me, google this shit. While you’re there look up which country in the leader in manufacturing & technology. Look up the top universities in the world.
Or keep closing your eyes, deny the facts, roll one up and bitch with the other locals how you hate the US. Island of the lost.
@SkipHawaii if we have so many natural resources and energy supplies why do we have to import so much petroleum (source of energy)? why does almost every electronic well any good for that matter in the US say "Made In China" according to you we have the resources to produce these goods so why do we get it from china? why is our big debt getting bigger when energy and resources=money in todays economy? your head is so far up your okole no make sense trying to reason with you.
@SkipHawaii if we have so many natural resources and energy supplies why do we have to import so much petroleum (source of energy)? why does almost every electronic well any good for that matter in the US say "Made In China" according to you we have the resources to produce these goods so why do we get it from china? why is our big debt getting bigger when energy and resources=money in todays economy? your head is so far up your okole no make sense trying to reason with you.
@SkipHawaii you cant post url's in comments so i messaged them dick weed and you use wiki answers as your source. the sources i used were governement sites that shows a $80b difference in goods exported compared to imported. we spend 20% more money than our total GDP. and PISA the program for international student testing which shows the US is just "Average"
@SkipHawaii wow youre an idiot im going to stop posting now you obviously dont comprehend anything. we import more energy than we produce domestically. we import more goods then we export. we spend more money than we make. in a program that makes standardized tests for the world we are ranked 15 of the 32 countries that participate. ok we produce 5.4 million barrels of oil but we import 12 million barrels daily. ask yourself how this is possible with so many resources and such a great economy
Hawaii has neither technical vision nor education. How could they with zero industry. This is why I am so for Hawaii succeeding from the US. Energy prices will initially soar and Hawaiian tourism will collapse. The US will be forced to prop up even more an already anti-US anti-education population.
So free Hawaii to the pacific island poverty it dreams of and please remember, you are Hawaiian, NOT American.
@SkipHawaii You mean seceding not succeeding. As for food, the Hawaiian population prior to James Cook's arrival is currently estimated to be around 800,000 to 1,000,000. The population today is estimated at 1.3 million. Their primary crop was taro of which 1 acre could feed 33 people for a whole year (disregarding ocean based food resources and animals). Hawaii's total landmass is approximately 4,100,000 acres. cont.
Currently Hawaii imports the vast majority of its food, but I'm sure when it is free of the evil US it will flourish. Just look at the high standard of living its pacific neighbors enjoy.
As for the US imperialistic mindset, times are changing. Many here in the US are fed up with being the policemen of the world. I want Hawaii out of the US, don't you?
@SkipHawaii Well if times are changing and you're fed up with being the "policemen" of the world, what have you done to help? The illegal occupation of middle eastern countries such as Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, etc. continues along with US military presence in Japan, Okinawa, and even China. If US imperialism is coming to an end, why do they continue to expand their sphere of influence?
@SkipHawaii So long as the US undoes all the injustices that have occurred due to US intervention, then yes. This includes: reforestation of deforested lands, restoration of water flow to streams and rivers that have been diverted and drained, stripping of power over fresh water from European/American-owned companies, cleanup of UXO from Kaho'olawe (which was supposed to have been completed decades ago), restoration of the Hawaiian constitutional monarchy, cont.
Should the US pull out the 90% of your blood that is not Hawaiian? Strip out the written Hawaiian language, English, math & science out of your consciousness? And who the do you think had that European palace built and abandoned their culture to dress like European kings & queens? I guess that was also evil the haoles fault. I’ve never seen such a group of whiny, take no responsibility losers in my life.
@SkipHawaii As for "pulling out 90% of our blood", I'm ethnically 100% Japanese. In the neo-Hawaiian constitution of 1995, it clearly lists: "The right of everyone to choose one's nationality... The right of everyone to liberty of movement and freedom to choose one's residence... The right of everyone to be free from discrimination, regardless of race, creed, color, age, nationality, religion, gender or disability." Also written Hawaiian language (most notably newspapers) were (cont.)
@SkipHawaii in existence since the early 19th century. English, math, and science were all taught in public and private schools prior to the overthrow. Most Hawaiians were bilingual and could speak and write in both Hawaiian and English. As for why 'Iolani palace was built in reflection of the UK palace, it's because of the strong political and cultural relationship they had with Britain. Prior to the 1893 overthrow, Hawaii had many treaties with both the US and Britain. cont.
You said “damage they have done in the past 2 centuries of American rule” that brings us to 1811 Sherlock. But yes, I know anything that was good was done by Hawaiians and anything bad by the US. Blame, blame, blame, you really don’t want independence, just more Fed money.
Wait a minute. . . you're Japanese??? I’m arguing about Hawaii with a haole Jap? It's your people that keep buying and building. Go back to Japan you fucking haole!!!
@SkipHawaii Kahului harbor which was built with the intention of creating trade opportunities with foreign nations were established in the early 1800s Einstein. And no we don't want fed money and I personally don't necessarily want independence. Just the proper care for the US government to stop their mass deforestation that they had inflicted on both post-war Germany and south Vietnam in past eras. And yes I'm Japanese but I've been here for more than 5 generations. cont.
@SkipHawaii Just because I'm not a kanaka maoli does not mean that I can't point out how ignorant and moronic you are making yourself look with your uneducated and racist remarks. You obviously have some deep roots in the Aryan race given your obvious inclination towards white supremacy. You act as if the whole world depends on white people to survive and that white people discovered everything in the world. So go along with your neo-Nazi ideology. Ignorant people don't change anyway.
Of course you don't want Hawaiian independence, YOU'RE HAOLE!!!
As for being a nazi, sorry dude I'm an American remember, we (black, white, yellow, brown) fought and died against you nazis and japs. Don't give me no BS about white supremacy. You're a haole jap that hates the US. You don't belong in Hawaii and you hate America, GO THE FUCK HOME!
FREE THE HAWAIIAN ISLANDS, HAWAII FOR HAWAIIANS!!!
@SkipHawaii There you go again. I bet you haven't even heard of the 100th battalion or the 442nd regimental combat team (the most decorated unit in proportion to its size in US history). Just for the sake of throwing this out there, I'm going to include the Tuskegee Airmen that I'm sure you've never heard of either. The only history you seem to study is your so called "American" history despite the fact that you know nothing of Native Americal Aboriginal history. cont.
@SkipHawaii There you go again. I bet you haven't even heard of the 100th battalion or the 442nd regimental combat team (the most decorated unit in proportion to its size in US history). Just for the sake of throwing this out there, I'm going to include the Tuskegee Airmen that I'm sure you've never heard of either. The only history you seem to study is your so called "American" history despite the fact that you know nothing of Native Americal Aboriginal history. cont.
@SkipHawaii If that, coupled with your racist comments, isn't white supremacy, I suppose that the Nazis weren't white supremacists. They were just true patriots to their motherland who only wanted the best for the world huh? Maybe you should go to the library and actually do a little bit of research or, as you said, "google this shit". I've already told you about the Hawaiian neo-constitution of 1995. cont.
The Japanese and Nazis were allies, of course Nazis and Japanese held supremacists beliefs. I’ve read many Japanese in Hawaii still hold these racist beliefs, is it true?
I want Hawaii to be an independent nation again, you, a Japanese haole, do not want a free Hawaii. Is it because you’re afraid you’ll have to give back what you’ve taken?
@SkipHawaii Yeah just ignore all that the 442nd and 100th battalion have done for the US. It's not like they were called the Purple Heart Battalion for the casualties they sustained in service to the US or anything. And while people may still hold racist beliefs here, there are way more whites who hold racist beliefs here than Japanese. In fact, there are more Filipinos that hold racist beliefs than Japanese. Racism always exists in any society. cont.
@SkipHawaii To say that certain members of a race are not racist is racist in itself. And I didn't say I didn't want a free Hawaii. I said that it's not the biggest issue right now. I have no problems with Hawaii seceding from the US. But that's not what I'm worried about right now. what I'm worried about is the US's destruction of our ecosystem and sustainable environment. Independence and sovereignty can be achieved so long as a single Hawaiian lives. cont.
"HAOLE is a term used most likely as a racist term more than a simple term, it is still hate speech. the japanese were worse (if you can imagine that) prior to pearl harbor. i worked for a jackass that was japanese and he has false bravado as far as wanting to BEEF(fight) all the time. small island thinking. move away. you would be better off for it!"
@SkipHawaii Hawaii's ecosystem, once destroyed, cannot. Hawaii boasts one of the highest levels of endemism in the whole world. What good is a land to Hawaiians if it's nothing but sand and clay? The first step is to get the US to undo the damage they have done to Hawaii. Restoration of cultural values and practices is secondary and Hawaiian sovereignty tertiary. And again what have I taken? I have nothing to give back if I've taken nothing.
This is a typical story I find about Hawaii, you live there is it true?
"i totally agree with you. i am asian and got a job after 3 weeks of landing in hawaii....my wife is a blonde haired caucasian and took her over 8 months to land a job. on interviews, they expect to see an asian because of her last name. i can go on and on about racism. it is really prevalent in the land of aloha. i agree that hawaii is more hype than aloha when it comes to separating a tourist from his/her dollars."
I said "we (black, white, yellow, brown) fought and died" when referencing Americans fighting in WW2 before you brought it up, how is that ignoring you?
What cracks me up is how a Japanese American wants to blame the US when they are the US. Inouye and Matsunaga both US Senators and WW2 vets, Hanabusa, Saiki, Japanese Americans run Hawaii, Japanese business have deforested much of Hawaii with hotels & condo’s.
@SkipHawaii No you said "we (black, white, yellow, brown) fought and died against YOU nazis and japs." and "you, a Japanese haole, do not want a free Hawaii." Again, we've been around for more than 5 generations which is longer than even a lot of Europeans have been in America. As for Japanese Americans being the US, that is not true. If it were, the Akaka bill would have gone through without a hitch. And Japanese business mostly encompasses golf resorts. cont.
@SkipHawaii Most of the resorts that were built were along the Kihei coasts where deforestation was not an issue. The only issue was water diversion but even that was put through with the assistance of white politicians. Additionally, Japanese businesspeople are not the only ones putting up hotels and condos. Look at the new Aulani resort that has come up. A huge resort comparable to the Four Seasons or Grand Wailea (both also owned by whites). cont.
@SkipHawaii As for the "typical story" you mention, no it's not. My mom is 100% Japanese with more business credentials than necessary for any administrative or public relations position. She's lost out to jobs over the past 2 years to whites, Filipinos, other Asians, and locals alike. Generally speaking, when it comes to tourist attractions, Asians and Pacific Islanders are preferred to give the place a more "local" look, but it is far from required. cont.
@SkipHawaii My mom had worked in the hotel industry for over 12 years. She worked with mostly whites and other Asians. While it may have been easier for Asians to land the job, they were also always the first to lose it when cuts were needed (idea probably being that there are always more Asians around). Aside from the tourist industry, all "racist" hirings occur because of the management's own biases. For example, some places only hire Filipinos. Others only hire Mexicans. cont.
@SkipHawaii Some only hire whites, some only hire blacks, and very rarely, you have that one place that only hires native Hawaiians. The only place I can think of that is unbiased in terms of race is the McDonalds here. But the McDonalds here only hires immigrants from places like Sweden, China, Japan, the Philippines, etc. and very rarely hires local inhabitants except in their outlier branches. So again, racism will always exist, but only has to do with unofficial segregation.
The Japanese have huge control in both businesses and government in Hawaii, yet anything that is bad is because of that evil mainland haole. Why do you oppose independence? Hawaii has a poverty level lower than any other pacific island, a modern infrastructure, schools, hospitals, airports all built with US fed help, but you want a big fat check to leave? Whiny ass parasites get off the tit or shut the fuck up.
@SkipHawaii What evidence do you have that the Japanese have more control than whites in both business and government here? Our last 2 governers, Abercrombie and Lingle, are both white without an ounce of Japanese in them. And when did I say I oppose independence? You're just making assumptions based on your own biased interpretation of what I said. Just to quote: "Hawai'i should have every right to "secede" (though they were never part of the US) from the US."
@SkipHawaii Secondly, modern infrastructure is the whole reason that people here are so mad. The best schools and hospitals were built without US help (Queen's hospital, Lahainaluna high school, Kamehameha schools, etc.) and poverty I attribute to overdevelopment and mass immigration. Thirdly I could give a shit about money. The US can keep their blood money and shove it up their spoiled greedy asses. All I care about is the US honoring native laws and honoring their agreements. cont.
@SkipHawaii The US seized over 40% of the island as "ceded lands" and distributed most of it to the state of Hawai'i. By Hawaiian law, the remaining non-crown lands must be divided up between the konohiki and the maka'ainana equally. This means that all the property that people "own" is actually held in part by the people of whom rights to passage, gathering, and other necessities must be granted. Technically speaking, even after the mahele, land could still not be "owned." cont.
@SkipHawaii So all land must be distributed to the people, land managers, and the monarch as dictated by Hawaiian law and all damage to the land (obviously) undone. Kaho'olawe still isn't cleaned up entirely. Streams still run dry, forest areas remain barren, nuclear and petroleum waste still run through our oceans, invasive species still kill off our native wildlife and fauna, water continues to be diverted, and military live fire testing continues to be conducted. cont.
The US didn't seize any land, the Queen surrendered HER islands to the US instead of the militia because she didn't have an army she could trust. She was hoping the US would give it back like the UK did earlier. Had she been a real Queen that her people backed your haole ass would not be there. Remember, you are NOT Hawaiian, you are Japanese haole. GO HOME!
@SkipHawaii Man you are being so ignorant right now, I can't tell whether you're trolling or just a natural born idiot. The queen surrendered only what lands she owned which was less than 30% of the total landmass of the islands. Between the state and the US military, they claim ownership of over 45% of the land in addition to the oceans of which no one, even the queen could own. The US seized at least 15% of the total landmass on these islands. cont.
@SkipHawaii Plus, even if the US did legally own those lands, again, the people must be granted the inalienable rights of passage, gathering, residence, etc. of which the US does not offer. So far all you've done is present opinions as to what YOU think happened without providing ANY evidence to your claims whatsoever. For example: "She didn't have an army she could trust". cont.
The Hawaiian militia numbered 1500. There was an estimated 30,000 Hawaiian’s at the time. There was no army because King Lunalilo disbanded it after a revolt in 1873.
Funny how you bring up the Japanese being bombed in WW2 like it was wrong to do. Sweet innocent Japanese, a people of peace.
@SkipHawaii And now you're just making stuff up. Outstanding. All I said was that the Japanese surrendered because the US dropped A-bombs and suddenly I'm calling them sweet and innocent. Next I suppose when I cite the Battle of Kuamoo and the Battle of Thermopylae as evidence that better equipment is more potent than greater numbers, you'll say that I'm calling Hawaiians white. What next? I compare war crimes committed by US troops and you'll accuse me of being part of Al-Quaeda? cont.
@SkipHawaii I'd really think I'd enjoy listening to your justification of any of America's wars just to illustrate how illogical and baseless the typical American's argument for any of their wars are because you know, everyone knows that the Filipinos and the Vietnamese were attempting to blow up the world with a fusion bomb large enough to tear a rift in the universe.
fuck hoales....they do the stupidest shit ever.....haoles are sick fukaz.....they so rude.....fuk, too much hawaiians let all theese haoles take advantage of us.. Fuk u haolez go back to mainland white peice of shitz.
Mr808Michael 1 week ago
@Mr808Michael
You need to take your island back. Do you own any firearms? Do you have any training? Form a militia and fight!
Look at the tiny country of Switzerland.
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SkipHawaii 1 week ago
@SkipHawaii we no use guns....we throw pound for pound!
Mr808Michael 1 week ago
@Mr808Michael
When/why did Hawaiians stop using guns? The Hawaiian Islands were first unified by the gun. The haoles Isaac Davis and John Young trained King Kamehameha and his warriors how to use the haole weapons. Kamehameha then had the technological advantage needed to overtake the other islands. At least arm yourself with a Hawaiian war club.
SkipHawaii 1 week ago
i hate the hawaiians that hate on the haoles. i thought you people were forgiving and loving people. wheres the aloha? not all haoles are bad and evil. some of them have hawaiian in them too so yah...
bcefra 2 months ago
@bcefra And do you hate on people that hate on other people based off of their ethnicity?
andagii 1 month ago
Hawaii and america never had a good relationship if thats what you were thinking. America is HI's biggest enemy.
datsomayjah 2 months ago
@datsomayjah
Hopeful someday Hawaii will no longer be part of the US.
SkipHawaii 2 months ago
@datsomayjah Go do some research before posting uneducated comments. Hawaii was on good terms with pretty much all foreign powers due mostly in part to the actions of King David Kalakaua. It was only until president Benjamin Harrison and the illegal overthrow in 1893 that relationships between the Kingdom of Hawaii and the USA soured. President Grover Cleveland, who served both before and after Harrison, was on very friendly terms with both Kalakaua and Liliuokalani.
mauiboynokaoi 2 months ago
Papua New Guinea
38% of the population lives below the National Basic Needs Poverty Line*.
According to primary school enrolment rates, only 53% of children are receiving an education.
PNG is facing the threat of an HIV and AIDS epidemic.
61% of the population does not have access to safe water.
SkipHawaii 3 months ago
Vanuatu
40% of the population lives below the National Basic Needs Poverty Line.
40% of the population does not have access to safe water.
Only 58% of children are enrolled in education.
Fiji
25% of the population lives below the National Basic Needs Poverty Line.
53% of the population does not have access to safe water.
Only 12% of the rural population has access to adequate sanitation.
SkipHawaii 3 months ago
"Go back to Europe, stupid haole." Now, isn't that silly. What if a Hawaiian person is married to a European person? You want them to divorce their spouse and send them back to Europe? I may not be Hawaiian, but I don't think all my Hawaiian uncles, aunties and cousins want to kick me out. We've been here six generations. Blaming a race for your ills is silly, because no one chooses their race. I'm on your side, because you guys are my ohana, literally. Aloha
moatwog 3 months ago
@moatwog I agree.
Vaowea 3 months ago
@moatwog The guy you're quoting is a "haole". Read his other quotes and you can read about how much of a racist white supremacist he is saying that Americans are the "policemen of the world" because they invade foreign countries, incite rebellions, and overthrow governments all while enforcing their own distorted view of what's right and what's wrong. It's fun to read what uneducated, ignorant remarks he makes though. As a friend of mine said, it's "funny reading material".
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
"racist white supremacist he is saying that Americans are the policemen of the world"
You distorting dickhead, I said we shouldn't be the policemen of the world. And how does American equal racist white supremacist? The US should have let Imperial Japan take the islands. Then you and the other Japanese haole “Hawaiians” could give the same compassion that the Chinese got in Nanking.
SkipHawaii 3 months ago
@SkipHawaii The fact that you refer to Americans as policemen rather than invaders, the fact that you insist you people are not doing anything wrong in your own self-righteous imperialist philosophy, and the fact that you portray yourself as a pro-Hawaiian nation advocate and racially attack any non-Hawaiian with the obvious intent of trying to make Hawaiians look like the bad guys is reason enough. You act like America is doing the world a favor by going to war and killing foreign civilians.
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
Like I just said, Hawaii would have been better off if the imperialist US had let the peace loving Japanese take over the island in WW2.
watch?v=u4G6pIuFITQ
watch?v=Tnu-mBJom3s
watch?v=UfpjLsMgAsw
watch?v=cdt6yxZEzUI
I've always said I want Hawaii out of the US, you’re the one that said “I personally don't necessarily want independence.” I guess it’s because deep down you’re a warmongering imperialist American.
SkipHawaii 3 months ago
@SkipHawaii The issue here isn't just independence. I've said that multiple times. You're the idiot who refuses to acknowledge the amount of damage the US has done to the islands without taking any responsibility for their actions. And yeah I guess everything I've said about Americans' unprovoked invasion of foreign nations and murder of civilians being wrong makes me a warmongering imperialist American huh? It's like you can't read or something. Maybe that's why you can't "google shit".
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
Samoa
20% of the population lives below the National Basic Needs Poverty Line.
Lack of employment for young people is a critical issue. Many young people must travel overseas to find work.
Solomon Islands
Only 52% of children are enrolled in education and even fewer complete their education.
30% of the population does not have access to safe water.
Only 65% of adults are literate.
SkipHawaii 3 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
So what are the horrors of being a state in the US? Roads, sewers, water, electricity, schools, hospitals? Hawaii has a poverty level of 8.6% and an average income of 63k. Being part of the US made this possible. Does this come at a cost to the environment? Of course, living in any developed nation has its problems.
Hawaii would have been better off without the US? Take a look at its neighbors.
SkipHawaii 3 months ago
@SkipHawaii The difference between mainland US and Hawaii is that mainland US is a continent. You guys have the millions upon millions of acres of land to develop while still maintaining self-sufficiency. Hawaii does not. The reason other Oceanic states have all those issues is because of industrialization. Hawaii, Samoa, Tahiti, etc. were all perfectly self-sufficient prior to overdevelopment under foreign rule. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@SkipHawaii Once more, Hawaii had the highest literacy rate in the world along with the first public schools under a compulsory education system. Everyone in the community worked (usually only about 12 hours a week due to the abundance of resources) and access to fresh water was NEVER a major problem here. Just look at the island of Kaua'i. Mt. Wai'ale'ale is one of the wettest (if not the wettest) spots on earth with Na Wai 'Eha on Maui only a few inches of rainfall drier.
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SkipHawaii 3 months ago
@SkipHawaii The issue isn't American missionaries nor is it American citizens (both of which Hawaiians were generally on good terms with). The issue is American imperialists such as former president Benjamin Harrison and present day American imperialism (of which no one but Americans were ever on good terms with) that rose to prominence after the Civil War. Prior to the shift in power in favor of American businessmen, relationships between Hawaii and America were always warm.
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
y r ppl always saying hawaiians are racist to white ppl when it's just freaking asshole haoles who they hate? usually.
Rachulie 3 months ago
@Rachulie Because they try to justify their own racism by trying to show that everyone else is racist too. I mean if you look at racism here and in the mainland, it's not even comparable. In the mainland US, people get killed every day because of hate crimes regarding race. That doesn't happen here.
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
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Rachulie 3 months ago
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u saying it's ok? racism may have its reasons but hell, it's stil fucked up.
i grew up arab and white in an all black southern town. black ppl hated me bc i looked full white. and white ppl hated me because of 9/11.
so i've just had enough of racism in general. just had enough.
Rachulie 3 months ago
@Rachulie When did I say it was OK? If you read the comments I've been posting for, oh, 2 weeks now, it's all anti-racism/pro-community remarks. I've got friends of almost every "major" race you can think of: White, Black, Oriental, Pacific Islander, Native American, Latin American, Arab, Israeli, etc. I think what really brings racism into perspective is observing it in its different forms. Having friends of different ethnic backgrounds exposes you to racism from each race towards another.
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@Rachulie Many don't even realize how racist they really are until you take the time to show them. I think half the battle of combating racism is getting people to acknowledge and identify its existence. After that it's not too hard to get them to change unless they're some sort of blatant neo-Nazi or something.
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi true. i always try to do that with the ppl i know. but ppl never want to accept something about themselves. i have a bunch of black friends who hate white ppl but like me bc im arab. i tell them how retarded that is because my dna is just as much white as arab. they always make excuses. they say "black ppl cant be racist." honostly i used to hate white ppl too, but then i realized how stupid that was. now i just hate honkies. lol.
Rachulie 3 months ago
@Rachulie I know what you mean. A lot of people think only white people can be racist. Yes white people may have started racism as we know it today, but people fail to see that due to European cultural expansion, many others have started emulating the white people and their philosophies (including racism). I always found that ironic. That people would be racist towards white people by way of emulating the white person.
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi never thought of it that way (emulating white ppl) its annoying. i have reasons to be racist, but i realized it's a waste of emotion. (watched american history x lol.) also, many people dont know ppl of all cultures can be similar. when i was living in a majority black city, getting bullied every time i went out, i thought thats the way black ppl act. then i moved to a better town where all colors and cultures dont bash each other as much, i was in shock.
Rachulie 3 months ago
@Rachulie In the end it's not so much what ethnicity you are, but where you come from: more specifically the culture that you grow up around. That's why I've always seen racism as a result of growing up with racists. Whether those racists be white, black, asian, etc. doesn't matter. Just being around racism will eventually make people racist I suppose.
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi it totally is culture. and the less ignorant racists understand that they hate a culture and not just the color of ppl. like ppl i knew in hawaii, most hated haole culture but not whites just for the hell of it. it's how u act. i can agree. it's dangerous tho, when u just assume everyone who looks alike has the same culture. and even back in ga its the same.
we should totally write a book, u and i. XD
Rachulie 3 months ago
@Rachulie I'm sure someone already has lol. Anyway I stick to what I've already said. Racism, prejudice, even sovereignty are all tertiary to taking care of the land and preserving self-sustainability. Almost like someone takes your car, crashes it all up, wrecks the transmission, and rips the radio to sell for a quick buck and then offers to return it without fixing it up first.
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@Rachulie Well, it's because two things. First not all locals, whether they be Hawaiian or not are open to Haole people, period. They are unable to see past their ignorance, racist minds, and see the person as a person, not by what their ethnicity is. It's similar to people saying Hawaiians or local people are racist to white people. They are ignorant and small minded, unable to see that not every local and Hawaiian person is the same.
Vaowea 3 months ago
@Vaowea when i lived there i got in no problems. but i lived in honolulu not a small town.
Rachulie 3 months ago
@Rachulie Small towns have very open minded people too. I think, rather than where one is from, it is the individual person themselves. It's sad though, that ignorance blinds so much people. I love people as long as they don't aren't rude to me or my family, racist, sexist, or such like that. :)
Vaowea 3 months ago
@Vaowea me too. i only hate ppl who hate X-)
Rachulie 3 months ago
First of all I never said anything about the Kingdom...I talked about KOKO....2nd my experience comes from my time on this Earth...54 years...3rd, Ali`i spoke in the plural: "We" not me...4th if you think you know Hawaiian then you are thinking too hard!!!! I addressed Homelessness due to something I read on this page...if it don't pertain to what you were talking about then FUCK YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! THAT is the problem with you "So-called Hawaiian's" with no Koko...so smart you stupid...
TUTUZGARAGESERVICE 4 months ago
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE So wait a second, you come to a video addressing the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Hawaii and comment on a subject regarding nationality, independence, and cultural identity, start talking about race and genealogy, and then say that we're not talking about the Kingdom at all? Yeah I'm the stupid one. Irrelevant personal attacks aside, citation on your claims please? My claims are backed by Hawaiian newspapers and doctrine. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE What's yours on? The opinion of a few people in your area? Maybe you people do things different on the Big Island but the Hawaiians I know here are perfectly fine with accepting "locals" into their culture whether they be pake, kepani, haole, popolo, etc. Hell one of my hanai parents growing up when I was little was a full-blooded Hawaiian and by way of marriage, I've got Hawaiians in my family. Hell my little brother is 40% Hawaiian. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE So far none of them have had a problem with me calling myself a Hawaiian rather than an American and a few of them actually come to me to learn a bit about their cultural roots. I'm about to head up to one of my distant uncle's lo'i kalo (just found out he owns one a couple days ago) to further my education on kalo cultivation. Again maybe you guys do things different on the Big Island, but here, to be Hawaiian is to have mana and mana can be gained through your actions.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi ho kanak i give u mad props for typing all of this
akinajj1 4 months ago
@akinajj1 LOL well it all started with one "American" dissing Hawaiians as "uneducated primitive" people. Then it strung into a discussion about my ethnicity in which a native Hawaiian argues against me (which I found kind of ironic). I just wouldn't want people to get the wrong impression of Hawaiians like that skiphawaii guy did: "Locals hate white people and the United States of America. They do not want you to live there, your kids will be bullied regularly at school."
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
Awesome! You finally got a “lol” in. And yes, mad props to you for having the balls to disrespecting a native Hawaiian and proving that you’re more Hawaiian than he is. Boy did you show him. I hope you told of your victory to all the other Hawaiians in your Hawaiian studies classes. Please rethink your stance on independence. I really think Hawaiians like you need to be free from the US.
As always, FREE HAWAII!!!
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii I'm not repeating myself on my stance regarding Hawaiian independence. I've stated it at least 5 times already. Go back and read. As for "disrespecting a native Hawaiian", it seems you're still stuck in your little "race is everything" bubble. Race is not really important at all. Just as a black person in America doesn't necessarily wear a dashiki and believe in Islam, a native Hawaiian doesn't necessarily understand his culture and religion. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Second I don't need to tell any of my Hawaiian friends about things like this. We all know Hawaiians who take advantage of their lineage as an excuse to call out the "evil haoles". Hell there's an entire museum dedicated to one of those "haoles" here known as the Bailey House Museum (do some research on Edward Bailey for more info). Again, race has nothing to do with anything. As for this "Ehu" Cardwell guy, no he does not. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii While some of the things he says have some foundation, much are merely personal opinion no different from the majority of your comments. While many times we do have common "enemies" so to speak, I'm not the one attacking others based on their personal associations (again something you've done regularly). In case you don't get the hint, it doesn't matter where you're from, opinion is opinion. Without facts to back it up, it makes no sense to present it as such.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
I kind of see what you’re saying. So a European that majors in Native American studies, has Native American relatives, practices Native American culture and whose family has lived in the area for 100 or so years is in fact more Native American than a Navajo that live in the suburbs of Denver.
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Yes. Just as an American member of the Aryan Brotherhood with white supremacist friends and years of lynching and hate crimes under his belt is more a Nazi than author of "The Perfect Nazi" Martin Davidson whose grandfather was a SS officer in Hitler's army.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Just got through with a discussion about this with a friend of mine who is half Mestizo and half Oaxacan. Here is the response straight from the horse's mouth: " it depends on how you want to argue it. for me i would say the the eruopean. mostly because i was raised with cacasian parents so i act more white than Mexican. my mum is my mum and my birth mother is the person that gave birth to me, but she isn't my mum, she didn't raise me." cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii "if someone has studied a certain culture for so long that it feels more real to them than their biology then perhaps they are 'more native american' than some one who is biologically so."
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
Hmm… this is all getting a bit confusing. Although most mainland whites are Nazis isn’t Nazism a political ideology? And how does one act Mexican? Maybe there are classes for it like you took for your Hawaiian certification.
自由なハワイ
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Now you're just making it a point to act stupid. It's like you're not even trying to make a point anymore. Just spewing nonsense to convince yourself that you're right about everything in the world since you obviously can't convince anyone else. So I'll just leave you to your ridiculous talks of how Americans are better than every other people in the world especially Hawaiians. And remember. You're right about everything and you don't need evidence because you're American.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
自由であることを少なくとも私が知っているアメリカ人で自慢している。そして私は死んだ人を忘れていない、私に右のそれを与えた。
SkipHawaii 3 months ago
@SkipHawaii Yes sir Mr. American sir. You're always right despite all evidence pointing otherwise. You're so righteous and morally correct. That's why all the other nations love you guys. I want to grow up to be just like you oh wise one. Please. Invade our country and oppress our people. I mean it's for the good of the world right?
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
I keep saying I want Hawaii out of the US, you’re the one that’s said otherwise. Should the US stop being the policeman of the world? Hell yes, never said different. As for whether or not the world loves the US, I could care less.
Ron Paul 2012!
watch?v=a8S3yws_88I
In 1966, Charles de Gaulle took France out of NATO and demanded that all U.S. troops must be evacuated from French soil. US Secretary of State Dean Rusk asked De Gaulle if that included the ones buried there.
SkipHawaii 3 months ago
@SkipHawaii I never said otherwise. I said I don't really care who is in charge, as long as they fix this place and restore it to what it once was. If the US can repair the damage they have done and stop doing more to the land, I'm sure a lot of us would be real happy here. Until the US can prove otherwise, I can only assume that the Kingdom of Hawaii's legislature would do a better job of taking care of the land than the US is doing right now.
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
“I personally don't necessarily want independence”
“I never said I didn't want independence”
“I'm more Hawaiian than most of the Hawaiians here"
The only reason you preach that anyone can be Hawaiian is because you yourself have no blood. You gladly live in the modern world yet blame everyone but yourself for what comes with it. Hawaii will never get off the US tit, but will bitch and moan every day they suck from it. What an island of hypocritical assholes.
SkipHawaii 3 months ago
@SkipHawaii Hmmm. So you say that the US should "stop being the policemen of the world" and then bitch and moan about nations "never getting off the US tit" despite the fact that the majority of the nations "on the US tit" don't want anything to do with US imperialism at all. Yes we're such hypocrites because we don't go out illegally militarily occupying other nations and then bitching about them costing us a fortune in military expenditures. Yep we're definitely the hypocrites huh?
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
So you’re saying most people that live in Hawaii, unlike you, would vote for an independent Hawaii? That’s great news. Oahu has roughly 1 million people, how many have hit the streets demanding independence?
Also, you say that you are more Hawaiian than other Japanese haoles by the fact that your people have been there for 5 generations. So what year was that?
SkipHawaii 3 months ago
@SkipHawaii I'm saying that most Hawaiian nationals would yes. Of course the haoles who just bought their timeshare here or bought their new condo aren't going to vote in favor. People who rely on mainland corporations for power also wouldn't be in favor either. Ironic though it may sound, the fairest way of taking a vote would be to poll native Hawaiians. As for what year it was, it was some time between 1885 and 1890. The only written document is my great grandfather's cont.
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
According to the rules that determine state residency people that own time shares, vote in another state, live there for school or work with the Fed (including US soldiers) are not state residence and not eligible to vote. Not sure what you mean by a Hawaiian national, but if just 3% of the state residence that live on Oahu came out to protest for independence that would be 30,000 people and would surely make global news.
SkipHawaii 3 months ago
@SkipHawaii birth certificate dated April 1, 1901.
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
Having only native Hawaiians be allowed to vote makes sense, but would it only be the few thousand pure bloods left or would a 1/16 blood get a 1/16th vote?
As long as the vote would be for independence I guess it wouldn’t matter how it got rigged. Haoles like you would lose their US citizenship right? And no more US military base right? Hawaii could keep the billions in Fed aid and knowing most think it’s nothing would a $5B parting gift be enough?
1901? Huh, no kingdom born?
SkipHawaii 3 months ago
@SkipHawaii Great grandfather smartass. That's 4th generation. And that's the earliest written document ever found. Considering his grandpa was the one who moved here, I don't think his son had a kid at the age of 8. And Hawaiian national meaning anyone determined as a Hawaiian citizen by way of the Hawaiian constitution. For someone who keeps telling people to "google shit" you sure don't do a lot of it yourself do you?
mauiboynokaoi 3 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
Also, does the Hawaiian Ehu Kekahu Cardwell of the Koani Foundation teach at your school? His videos are wonderful. It’s Hawaiians like you and Ehu Kekahu that capture the true voice of the Hawaiian people. And even more mad props to you for teaching Hawaiians their cultural roots and showing them how to be Hawaiian. You truly are more Hawaiian than Hawaiians.
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
malama na ohana hawaii like me liliuokalani
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There are some who just don't get it....some who want to claim Hawaiian as their "Nationality as their "Right." But no matter how many Hawaiian phrases you can quote @ me you are still 100% Japanese blood... Without Koko Ali`i don't tell us you have rights...
As for Homelessness..that's not what Hawaiian's are...many of those without a home didn't choose it...I have a roof over my head, but what the US Military did to my family is unspeakable...took our beachfront land...Keokea in Niuli`i...
TUTUZGARAGESERVICE 4 months ago
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE WTF are you even talking about homelessness? I said nothing about homelessness. I also explained that the military is responsible for 80% of the problems here in Hawaii for Hawaiian nationals. It's like you're telling me I'm wrong, then telling me I'm right. Also if you took the time to translate what I said, I already mentioned royal lineage and addressed that to descend from Papa and Wakea is to descend from foreigners. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE Wahi a he kumulipo, the first to arrive on the earth were Ki'i (Tiki), La'ila'i, Kane (Tane), and Kanaloa (Tangaroa). The legend is not exclusive to Hawaiians though as it is believed all throughout Oceania. Papa and Wakea were from kahiki (a foreign land) as were Pele and Maui. The first Hawaiian is believed by the majority to be Haloa descendant of Wakea and Ho'ohokukalani. He is the first Hawaiian for he is the first born here. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE If that's not enough, the major figure in Hawaiian history Pa'ao who brought a "pure" chief over to replace the "corrupted" Hawaiian chiefs was again from a foreign land. There was no trace of racism within Hawaiian beliefs until European contact. The only thing genealogy sought to prove was worthiness to rule. It did not determine whether you were human or not. As for "having rights", all people had inalienable rights by way of the constitution written by Kamehameha 3.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE Let me just list some that are in there:
God hath endowed all men with certain inalienable rights; among which are life, liberty, and the right of acquiring, possessing, and protection property, and of pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE All men are free to worship God according to the dictates of their own conscience; but this sacred privilege hereby secured, shall not be so construed as to justify acts of licentiousness, of practices inconsistent with the peace or safety of the Kingdom.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE Each member of society has a right to be protected by it, in the enjoyment of his life, liberty, and property,according to law; and, therefore, he shall be obliged to contribute his proportional share to the expenses of this protection, and to give his personal services, or an equivalent when necessary; but no part of the property of any individual shall be taken from him, or applied to public uses, without his own consent, or the enactment of the Legislative Assembly
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@TUTUZGARAGESERVICE You seem to know your lineage. It is good that you have not lost it. But before you go around talking as if you speak on behalf of all subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom do some research as to what the kingdom was truly like.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
What's with the bush pictures?! He had nothing to do with us lol
HaVVaiianVVarrior 4 months ago
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SkipHawaii 4 months ago
Hawaiians BRAh nevah UNderistamate us cuz
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SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@mkeets
Of course the US imports oil because its uses more than it has. I never said otherwise. The facts I stated are correct. You said the US imports 90+% of goods and resources. You are wrong.
I also said that the oil/energy situation is coming to its end cycle. That is the US will be forced to find alternative energy. I also said that would be exciting times (i.e. jobs) for those with education and vision.
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
FUCK AMERICA
KALA808able 4 months ago
@KALA808able
da dem dat 808 fo da life der da bra da dem dat da der da da daaaaaaaaaaa
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
OH YEAH!! HAWAIIAN PRIDE ALL THE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!
WHOOP! WHOOP!
REPPIN' THE KALIHI SIDE**
primafii 4 months ago
The only way to survive here is to restore the 'aina, and malama the ahupua'a, which means to restore the streams and reefs, fish ponds, and lo'i. If we don't, no one here is going to survive the inevitable collapse of the corporation known as UNITED STATES, INC. Waikiki must be again full of kalo instead of hotels, and "Pearl Harbor" full of oysters with huge pearls and a thriving reef instead of nuclear war machines and a PERPETUAL OIL SPILL. Fish and poi is real. Money is not.
moatwog 5 months ago
cool music
sad to find out how bad is paradice this days what a shame
shugar5263 5 months ago
This is an awesome song. :D
andagii 5 months ago
808 all day err day<3
2vbgal 5 months ago
haaha the stupid locals from hawaii r equivalent to the southern redneck in alabama. thinks they r badass until shit comes there way.
ageeeeeeeeee 5 months ago
@ageeeeeeeeee fuck you. dont talk down on us! we are well educated! we got fathers fighing in iraq and afganistan! shame on you! dont profile us! i goin put you to sleep
bcefra 5 months ago
@bcefra hahahahhah bullshit u fuckers dont all they do in hawaii is work min wage and just do shit. LOL at well educated thats why they speak shitty and have the lowest test scores than any other state
ageeeeeeeeee 5 months ago
@ageeeeeeeeee h0 hata shaddup be4 i give u one crack medavac, i bet im smarter and more intellectual then you are cuz and u is messin wid one ha-y-n so back off or take da challenge bulleh
dareal8ou8 5 months ago
Id be ded b4 i touch one haoleh ata den swing wit um! Ali'i bloodline boiii!
cog808 5 months ago
Fuc u haoleh!!! Technically u an yah ansestahz is only theives u fucken munkeh!
cog808 5 months ago
@cog808
Wow, are you really that incapable of using the English language? It’s funny how you guys bitch so much about the hand that feeds you. Think that’s going to last? Fuel costs keep going up and wages keep going down. The haoles will stop coming, no haole money means no haole food. Hawaii is doomed. Your life is going to change in ways you can’t imagine now. Enjoy.
SkipHawaii 5 months ago
@SkipHawaii
Don't matter idiot! Hawaii depends on the Japanese anyway...In fact its the very opposite! It's US that needs Hawaii most important militarily. They were doing fine before you white yanks arrived anyway moron! Bet you don't even know that Hawaii is an Asian majority state. You angry white peeps are the minority. LOL! And this is coming from a native German in Germany but even as a European, even I know this stuff. It's obvious you are an uneducated idiot no matter the ethnicity.
Toyman07 5 months ago
@Toyman07
It's the US government, not the Japanese propping up the state with massive federal aid. As for Hawaii's importance as a military base, those days are rapidly fading. Americans are tired of being the policeman of the world and getting spit on. Let’s see how strong your economy is after you bail out the PIGS and America’s military shield goes away.
Watch this video: watch?v=z7DAHs6p4c4
SkipHawaii 5 months ago
@SkipHawaii who cares if we speak pigeon in hawaii it doesn't matter, since when did language define intelligence? youre one of those guys stuck in the 20's race, language, background doesnt mean that you cant make something of yourself anymore. you would be surprised how bright the kids in hawaii are. if given a chance theyd be smarter than mainland kids. make mainland kids take an sat in pigeon then we see whos test scores are higher. btw the us government is in a $8 trillion debt
mkeets 5 months ago
@mkeets
Sorry, US text books are in English, having good English skills means you can read and learn. It wouldn’t matter if the books were in pigeon though. Many Hawaiian locals are raised to ridicule education. Why else would they score at the bottom of the US? As for the 14T (not 8) in US debt, having a state that imports 90% of its food, has no industry, survives off mainland dollars and ranks dead last in education isn’t helping.
Save the US, free Hawaii!
SkipHawaii 5 months ago
@SkipHawaii how literate you are has nothing to do with how smart someone is. b/c blacks, hawaiians, rednecks are "illeterate" theres a language barrier on tests which are made for the middle class white man to accel in. if you break it down to critical thinking skills and problem solving you'll see that these kids aren't as dumb as you think they are. by helpless state i think you mean alaska. hawaii has an industry known as the tourist industry if you didn't know which makes plenny money.
mkeets 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii oh yeah its only 14T now because of inflation, which is due to the US government, who keep using paper money and credit, stuff with face value, but nothing to back it up. yes please save hawaii from all the import and export taxes that we wouldn't recieve if we didn't have to dig the US government out of the hole they dug themselves into. all the US has is food which they waste btw, they have no natural resources probably 95% of the natural resources the US uses is imported.
mkeets 4 months ago
@mkeets
It truly is hilarious to see how uneducated you mokes are. US natural recourse are huge. Coal, copper, lead, molybdenum, phosphates, uranium, bauxite, gold, iron, mercury, nickel, potash, silver, tungsten, zinc, petroleum, natural gas, timber and the largest GDP in the world (3 times larger than China).
And Hawaii has sand.
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii are you serious? we make up only about 15% of coal production in the world which is behind china not like that matters because we consume more than we put out and the world is moving away from coal. we aren't a top producer of any metal idk where you got that idea but you were very misinformed the most we produce of the metals are gold but china produces 12 tonne's more gold than we do. lets see the only fuel that matters, petroleum, we are the top importer and bottom exporter
mkeets 4 months ago
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii if we have so many natural resources and energy supplies why do we have to import so much petroleum (source of energy)? why does almost every electronic well any good for that matter in the US say "Made In China" according to you we have the resources to produce these goods so why do we get it from china? why is our big debt getting bigger when energy and resources=money in todays economy? your head is so far up your okole no make sense trying to reason with you.
mkeets 4 months ago
@mkeets
The US imports petroleum because it’s currently the cheapest way to supply its energy needs. Many US corporations make their goods in China because it’s currently the cheapest way to produce them. This is called capitalism. Both these situations are coming to their end cycle. Exciting changes are coming for those with education and vision. For mokes stuck on a rock . . . not so good.
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii we import petroleum because its our only source of energy. we make goods in china because they are the only country with the resources to make products. please enlighten me with your great plan to get out of debt. btw you said "having a state that imports 90% of its food, has no industry, survives off mainland dollars and ranks dead last in education isn’t helping." what is the us doing? importing 90+% of goods and resources and rank "average" in education among other countries
mkeets 4 months ago
@mkeets
Why do you think the US is like Hawaii, devoid of resources? If you don’t believe me, google this shit. While you’re there look up which country in the leader in manufacturing & technology. Look up the top universities in the world.
Or keep closing your eyes, deny the facts, roll one up and bitch with the other locals how you hate the US. Island of the lost.
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
Cont.
Out of any listing the US has most of the highest ranking Universities in the world.
And don’t get me started on technology, NASA, IBM, Apple, HP, Microsoft, Dell, Oracle, the list is endless.
Then there is Hawaii, mokes, rock, sand, lowest public education rankings, 90% of food is imported and zero industry. Please free Hawaii!
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@mkeets
Don’t send me gay personal messages. Prove these facts wrong or STFU.
The US produces 5.4 million barrels of oil per day. That's 3rd largest amount in the world.
The US has 243 gigatonnes of coal, world’s largest and 29% of the global total.
The US produces by far the most nuclear energy in the world.
The world's top manufacturing country is the US (1.8 T in 2007), and has been the case since before WWII.
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii
mkeets 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii if we have so many natural resources and energy supplies why do we have to import so much petroleum (source of energy)? why does almost every electronic well any good for that matter in the US say "Made In China" according to you we have the resources to produce these goods so why do we get it from china? why is our big debt getting bigger when energy and resources=money in todays economy? your head is so far up your okole no make sense trying to reason with you.
mkeets 4 months ago
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@SkipHawaii if we have so many natural resources and energy supplies why do we have to import so much petroleum (source of energy)? why does almost every electronic well any good for that matter in the US say "Made In China" according to you we have the resources to produce these goods so why do we get it from china? why is our big debt getting bigger when energy and resources=money in todays economy? your head is so far up your okole no make sense trying to reason with you.
mkeets 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii you cant post url's in comments so i messaged them dick weed and you use wiki answers as your source. the sources i used were governement sites that shows a $80b difference in goods exported compared to imported. we spend 20% more money than our total GDP. and PISA the program for international student testing which shows the US is just "Average"
mkeets 4 months ago
@mkeets
Prove the facts I listed wrong or STFU.
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii wow youre an idiot im going to stop posting now you obviously dont comprehend anything. we import more energy than we produce domestically. we import more goods then we export. we spend more money than we make. in a program that makes standardized tests for the world we are ranked 15 of the 32 countries that participate. ok we produce 5.4 million barrels of oil but we import 12 million barrels daily. ask yourself how this is possible with so many resources and such a great economy
mkeets 4 months ago
Cont.
Hawaii has neither technical vision nor education. How could they with zero industry. This is why I am so for Hawaii succeeding from the US. Energy prices will initially soar and Hawaiian tourism will collapse. The US will be forced to prop up even more an already anti-US anti-education population.
So free Hawaii to the pacific island poverty it dreams of and please remember, you are Hawaiian, NOT American.
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii You mean seceding not succeeding. As for food, the Hawaiian population prior to James Cook's arrival is currently estimated to be around 800,000 to 1,000,000. The population today is estimated at 1.3 million. Their primary crop was taro of which 1 acre could feed 33 people for a whole year (disregarding ocean based food resources and animals). Hawaii's total landmass is approximately 4,100,000 acres. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
Currently Hawaii imports the vast majority of its food, but I'm sure when it is free of the evil US it will flourish. Just look at the high standard of living its pacific neighbors enjoy.
As for the US imperialistic mindset, times are changing. Many here in the US are fed up with being the policemen of the world. I want Hawaii out of the US, don't you?
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Well if times are changing and you're fed up with being the "policemen" of the world, what have you done to help? The illegal occupation of middle eastern countries such as Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, etc. continues along with US military presence in Japan, Okinawa, and even China. If US imperialism is coming to an end, why do they continue to expand their sphere of influence?
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
It's not just me, most of the US citizens I come into contact with feel the same way. Watch this video, it says it all:
watch?v=a8S3yws_88I
I give a lot of time & money trying to get this man elected.
Now answer my question, do you want Hawaii out of the US?
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii So long as the US undoes all the injustices that have occurred due to US intervention, then yes. This includes: reforestation of deforested lands, restoration of water flow to streams and rivers that have been diverted and drained, stripping of power over fresh water from European/American-owned companies, cleanup of UXO from Kaho'olawe (which was supposed to have been completed decades ago), restoration of the Hawaiian constitutional monarchy, cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
Cont.
Should the US pull out the 90% of your blood that is not Hawaiian? Strip out the written Hawaiian language, English, math & science out of your consciousness? And who the do you think had that European palace built and abandoned their culture to dress like European kings & queens? I guess that was also evil the haoles fault. I’ve never seen such a group of whiny, take no responsibility losers in my life.
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii As for "pulling out 90% of our blood", I'm ethnically 100% Japanese. In the neo-Hawaiian constitution of 1995, it clearly lists: "The right of everyone to choose one's nationality... The right of everyone to liberty of movement and freedom to choose one's residence... The right of everyone to be free from discrimination, regardless of race, creed, color, age, nationality, religion, gender or disability." Also written Hawaiian language (most notably newspapers) were (cont.)
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii in existence since the early 19th century. English, math, and science were all taught in public and private schools prior to the overthrow. Most Hawaiians were bilingual and could speak and write in both Hawaiian and English. As for why 'Iolani palace was built in reflection of the UK palace, it's because of the strong political and cultural relationship they had with Britain. Prior to the 1893 overthrow, Hawaii had many treaties with both the US and Britain. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
You said “damage they have done in the past 2 centuries of American rule” that brings us to 1811 Sherlock. But yes, I know anything that was good was done by Hawaiians and anything bad by the US. Blame, blame, blame, you really don’t want independence, just more Fed money.
Wait a minute. . . you're Japanese??? I’m arguing about Hawaii with a haole Jap? It's your people that keep buying and building. Go back to Japan you fucking haole!!!
FREE HAWAII!!!
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Kahului harbor which was built with the intention of creating trade opportunities with foreign nations were established in the early 1800s Einstein. And no we don't want fed money and I personally don't necessarily want independence. Just the proper care for the US government to stop their mass deforestation that they had inflicted on both post-war Germany and south Vietnam in past eras. And yes I'm Japanese but I've been here for more than 5 generations. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Just because I'm not a kanaka maoli does not mean that I can't point out how ignorant and moronic you are making yourself look with your uneducated and racist remarks. You obviously have some deep roots in the Aryan race given your obvious inclination towards white supremacy. You act as if the whole world depends on white people to survive and that white people discovered everything in the world. So go along with your neo-Nazi ideology. Ignorant people don't change anyway.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
Of course you don't want Hawaiian independence, YOU'RE HAOLE!!!
As for being a nazi, sorry dude I'm an American remember, we (black, white, yellow, brown) fought and died against you nazis and japs. Don't give me no BS about white supremacy. You're a haole jap that hates the US. You don't belong in Hawaii and you hate America, GO THE FUCK HOME!
FREE THE HAWAIIAN ISLANDS, HAWAII FOR HAWAIIANS!!!
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii There you go again. I bet you haven't even heard of the 100th battalion or the 442nd regimental combat team (the most decorated unit in proportion to its size in US history). Just for the sake of throwing this out there, I'm going to include the Tuskegee Airmen that I'm sure you've never heard of either. The only history you seem to study is your so called "American" history despite the fact that you know nothing of Native Americal Aboriginal history. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
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@SkipHawaii There you go again. I bet you haven't even heard of the 100th battalion or the 442nd regimental combat team (the most decorated unit in proportion to its size in US history). Just for the sake of throwing this out there, I'm going to include the Tuskegee Airmen that I'm sure you've never heard of either. The only history you seem to study is your so called "American" history despite the fact that you know nothing of Native Americal Aboriginal history. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii If that, coupled with your racist comments, isn't white supremacy, I suppose that the Nazis weren't white supremacists. They were just true patriots to their motherland who only wanted the best for the world huh? Maybe you should go to the library and actually do a little bit of research or, as you said, "google this shit". I've already told you about the Hawaiian neo-constitution of 1995. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
The Japanese and Nazis were allies, of course Nazis and Japanese held supremacists beliefs. I’ve read many Japanese in Hawaii still hold these racist beliefs, is it true?
I want Hawaii to be an independent nation again, you, a Japanese haole, do not want a free Hawaii. Is it because you’re afraid you’ll have to give back what you’ve taken?
Answer the questions haole!
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Yeah just ignore all that the 442nd and 100th battalion have done for the US. It's not like they were called the Purple Heart Battalion for the casualties they sustained in service to the US or anything. And while people may still hold racist beliefs here, there are way more whites who hold racist beliefs here than Japanese. In fact, there are more Filipinos that hold racist beliefs than Japanese. Racism always exists in any society. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii To say that certain members of a race are not racist is racist in itself. And I didn't say I didn't want a free Hawaii. I said that it's not the biggest issue right now. I have no problems with Hawaii seceding from the US. But that's not what I'm worried about right now. what I'm worried about is the US's destruction of our ecosystem and sustainable environment. Independence and sovereignty can be achieved so long as a single Hawaiian lives. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
Cont.
"HAOLE is a term used most likely as a racist term more than a simple term, it is still hate speech. the japanese were worse (if you can imagine that) prior to pearl harbor. i worked for a jackass that was japanese and he has false bravado as far as wanting to BEEF(fight) all the time. small island thinking. move away. you would be better off for it!"
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Hawaii's ecosystem, once destroyed, cannot. Hawaii boasts one of the highest levels of endemism in the whole world. What good is a land to Hawaiians if it's nothing but sand and clay? The first step is to get the US to undo the damage they have done to Hawaii. Restoration of cultural values and practices is secondary and Hawaiian sovereignty tertiary. And again what have I taken? I have nothing to give back if I've taken nothing.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
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This is a typical story I find about Hawaii, you live there is it true?
"i totally agree with you. i am asian and got a job after 3 weeks of landing in hawaii....my wife is a blonde haired caucasian and took her over 8 months to land a job. on interviews, they expect to see an asian because of her last name. i can go on and on about racism. it is really prevalent in the land of aloha. i agree that hawaii is more hype than aloha when it comes to separating a tourist from his/her dollars."
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
I said "we (black, white, yellow, brown) fought and died" when referencing Americans fighting in WW2 before you brought it up, how is that ignoring you?
What cracks me up is how a Japanese American wants to blame the US when they are the US. Inouye and Matsunaga both US Senators and WW2 vets, Hanabusa, Saiki, Japanese Americans run Hawaii, Japanese business have deforested much of Hawaii with hotels & condo’s.
You want to save Hawaii? LEAVE.
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii No you said "we (black, white, yellow, brown) fought and died against YOU nazis and japs." and "you, a Japanese haole, do not want a free Hawaii." Again, we've been around for more than 5 generations which is longer than even a lot of Europeans have been in America. As for Japanese Americans being the US, that is not true. If it were, the Akaka bill would have gone through without a hitch. And Japanese business mostly encompasses golf resorts. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Most of the resorts that were built were along the Kihei coasts where deforestation was not an issue. The only issue was water diversion but even that was put through with the assistance of white politicians. Additionally, Japanese businesspeople are not the only ones putting up hotels and condos. Look at the new Aulani resort that has come up. A huge resort comparable to the Four Seasons or Grand Wailea (both also owned by whites). cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii As for the "typical story" you mention, no it's not. My mom is 100% Japanese with more business credentials than necessary for any administrative or public relations position. She's lost out to jobs over the past 2 years to whites, Filipinos, other Asians, and locals alike. Generally speaking, when it comes to tourist attractions, Asians and Pacific Islanders are preferred to give the place a more "local" look, but it is far from required. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii My mom had worked in the hotel industry for over 12 years. She worked with mostly whites and other Asians. While it may have been easier for Asians to land the job, they were also always the first to lose it when cuts were needed (idea probably being that there are always more Asians around). Aside from the tourist industry, all "racist" hirings occur because of the management's own biases. For example, some places only hire Filipinos. Others only hire Mexicans. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Some only hire whites, some only hire blacks, and very rarely, you have that one place that only hires native Hawaiians. The only place I can think of that is unbiased in terms of race is the McDonalds here. But the McDonalds here only hires immigrants from places like Sweden, China, Japan, the Philippines, etc. and very rarely hires local inhabitants except in their outlier branches. So again, racism will always exist, but only has to do with unofficial segregation.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
The Japanese have huge control in both businesses and government in Hawaii, yet anything that is bad is because of that evil mainland haole. Why do you oppose independence? Hawaii has a poverty level lower than any other pacific island, a modern infrastructure, schools, hospitals, airports all built with US fed help, but you want a big fat check to leave? Whiny ass parasites get off the tit or shut the fuck up.
Protest, fight, get the word out, FREE HAWAII!
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii What evidence do you have that the Japanese have more control than whites in both business and government here? Our last 2 governers, Abercrombie and Lingle, are both white without an ounce of Japanese in them. And when did I say I oppose independence? You're just making assumptions based on your own biased interpretation of what I said. Just to quote: "Hawai'i should have every right to "secede" (though they were never part of the US) from the US."
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Secondly, modern infrastructure is the whole reason that people here are so mad. The best schools and hospitals were built without US help (Queen's hospital, Lahainaluna high school, Kamehameha schools, etc.) and poverty I attribute to overdevelopment and mass immigration. Thirdly I could give a shit about money. The US can keep their blood money and shove it up their spoiled greedy asses. All I care about is the US honoring native laws and honoring their agreements. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii The US seized over 40% of the island as "ceded lands" and distributed most of it to the state of Hawai'i. By Hawaiian law, the remaining non-crown lands must be divided up between the konohiki and the maka'ainana equally. This means that all the property that people "own" is actually held in part by the people of whom rights to passage, gathering, and other necessities must be granted. Technically speaking, even after the mahele, land could still not be "owned." cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii So all land must be distributed to the people, land managers, and the monarch as dictated by Hawaiian law and all damage to the land (obviously) undone. Kaho'olawe still isn't cleaned up entirely. Streams still run dry, forest areas remain barren, nuclear and petroleum waste still run through our oceans, invasive species still kill off our native wildlife and fauna, water continues to be diverted, and military live fire testing continues to be conducted. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
The US didn't seize any land, the Queen surrendered HER islands to the US instead of the militia because she didn't have an army she could trust. She was hoping the US would give it back like the UK did earlier. Had she been a real Queen that her people backed your haole ass would not be there. Remember, you are NOT Hawaiian, you are Japanese haole. GO HOME!
SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Man you are being so ignorant right now, I can't tell whether you're trolling or just a natural born idiot. The queen surrendered only what lands she owned which was less than 30% of the total landmass of the islands. Between the state and the US military, they claim ownership of over 45% of the land in addition to the oceans of which no one, even the queen could own. The US seized at least 15% of the total landmass on these islands. cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii Plus, even if the US did legally own those lands, again, the people must be granted the inalienable rights of passage, gathering, residence, etc. of which the US does not offer. So far all you've done is present opinions as to what YOU think happened without providing ANY evidence to your claims whatsoever. For example: "She didn't have an army she could trust". cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@mauiboynokaoi
The Hawaiian militia numbered 1500. There was an estimated 30,000 Hawaiian’s at the time. There was no army because King Lunalilo disbanded it after a revolt in 1873.
Funny how you bring up the Japanese being bombed in WW2 like it was wrong to do. Sweet innocent Japanese, a people of peace.
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SkipHawaii 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii And now you're just making stuff up. Outstanding. All I said was that the Japanese surrendered because the US dropped A-bombs and suddenly I'm calling them sweet and innocent. Next I suppose when I cite the Battle of Kuamoo and the Battle of Thermopylae as evidence that better equipment is more potent than greater numbers, you'll say that I'm calling Hawaiians white. What next? I compare war crimes committed by US troops and you'll accuse me of being part of Al-Quaeda? cont.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
@SkipHawaii I'd really think I'd enjoy listening to your justification of any of America's wars just to illustrate how illogical and baseless the typical American's argument for any of their wars are because you know, everyone knows that the Filipinos and the Vietnamese were attempting to blow up the world with a fusion bomb large enough to tear a rift in the universe.
mauiboynokaoi 4 months ago
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SkipHawaii 4 months ago