Forza 4 seems to have a very wide angle of view - almost felt like fish eye as the car gets thinner in chase view - in order to give sense of speed or is it a trick to increase frame rate, coz in some games - especially PC, increasing FOV could result in a slight increase in fps performance
7:26.70 lap time on Nürburgring Nordschleife set in 23 April 2009 by Nissan test driver Toshio Suzuki driving a Nissan GTR, now matched in a GT5 presented in splitscreen vs real life video 1:1, GT5 Nissan GTR equipped with Sports-Medium tires, no assists, with steering wheel and a nice large screen. Prove it yourself in GT5 :) If Forza 4 can have it this close to GT5 and real life, maybe I'll give it a try
@rhythmnsmoke Its hard to compare the two in these low res you tube videos, but even here I can see that the bugatti in F4 looks a lot better, the GT5 one has lots of jaggies, plus it looks PS2ish when standing still.
@rhythmnsmoke Not only Forza doesn't have but also pretty much any game on the 360 has better Anti-aliasing than on the PS3. I got both consoles and I haven't seen any game on the PS3 that doesn't have jagged edges including the exclusive games. At first when I bought my PS3 i thought there is something wrong with my PS3 or TV but as it turns out it's just the lack of AA.
@bbr11 PS3 games do have AA. Not sure which games you are referring to I've never noticed lack of AA. In GT5 its noticeable due to the dynamic shadowing. The processing power is pretty intense to pull it off. Its evident in the smoke from tires while drifting. Watch a drift vid from Forza and then compare it to smoke from a drift vid in GT5. You will see what I mean.
@rhythmnsmoke m ofcoarse F4 has dynamic shadows, not many modern games dont. Again its hard to see here mostly due to the sun being high in the sky on the Forza video, but if you simply look at other Forza video in which the sun is lower in the sky you will see the shadows move around the cars depending on the position of the car to the sun.
@rhythmnsmoke yeah, I did that, thats how I found out that Forza has it, so why is it that you think Forza4 does NOT have it, where did you get that idea?
Irregardless of dynamic or not, the shadows in GT5 are horrible, everyone knows this, they dance and flicker like they're on fire, this completely takes away from the realism.
@Icayn No it does not. Watch the comparo videos again. It's cars are barely casting a shadow at all. And the smoke from tires is almost non-existent. And when there is smoke, it's a standard code being used without varying the degree of smoke based on the amount of throttle and grip the car has. It's like an on-off switch from what I can tell from the comparo vids. I don't fault GT5 on something New and not done in other racing games if they don't get it 100% perfect the first time.
One thing I did notice through out the video, dispite the fact that the car is moving in Forza 4, the shadow remains constant, where as when the car is moving in GT5, the shadow is cast out opposite of the sun. Perfect example is :31-:35 Shadow in Froza remains in a constant state, where as GT's shadow is rotating its casted shadow. Forza seems to have used more dynamic contrast (which helps with textures), where as GT5 uses a balanced dynamic contrast/brightness, more emphasis on brightness.
They both look good, but GT has the edge in realism. I like Forza's menus better though. Forza feels just a bit more on the arcade style for me than GT. The closer to reality, the better, as far as I'm concerned. It's a matter of taste. I have friends that completely disagree with that.
@eliarevalo I turn off the line, TCS, and STM. I leave ABS on. If you don't spend some real time in GT adjusting suspension, weight balancing, and gearing, a beefed up car is almost undrivable when you turn those things off. I thought I was pretty good a racing games, until I started going back online recently. The newness has warn off, so only people that are serious about their racing games remain. I took a 2000 Celica GTS, and got my ass handed to me by a guy in a VW Bus. Oh the shame.
@bbr11
Could you tell me the Name of the Song at 1:12 please?
Thx! :)
AggroJack94 2 months ago
What's the name of the Song at 1:12?
Thx :-)
AggroJack94 2 months ago
Forza 4 seems to have a very wide angle of view - almost felt like fish eye as the car gets thinner in chase view - in order to give sense of speed or is it a trick to increase frame rate, coz in some games - especially PC, increasing FOV could result in a slight increase in fps performance
wwwdotneogafdotcom/forum/showthread.php?t=375000&page=258
Check it out, nice comparison and discussion of forza 4 fov
ChiricoChuvie 4 months ago
Forza 4 has much better sound quality
xRedwingMAFIAx 4 months ago
GT5 is far better with 1 year of late ...
RusT7971 4 months ago
Gran Turismo 5 beats by far Forza 4...These french ppl will never beat these japanese games
Legofan1401 4 months ago
@Legofan1401 1: forza is american, fucking retard. 2, have you even played forza 4?
cheezoncrack 3 months ago
Forza Wins!
Alexandre976 4 months ago
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7:26.70 lap time on Nürburgring Nordschleife set in 23 April 2009 by Nissan test driver Toshio Suzuki driving a Nissan GTR, now matched in a GT5 presented in splitscreen vs real life video 1:1, GT5 Nissan GTR equipped with Sports-Medium tires, no assists, with steering wheel and a nice large screen. Prove it yourself in GT5 :) If Forza 4 can have it this close to GT5 and real life, maybe I'll give it a try
ChiricoChuvie 4 months ago
Funny how in GT5 the Veyron is a Standard car, and it still looks as good as Forza 4's Veyron during game play.
rhythmnsmoke 4 months ago
@rhythmnsmoke Its hard to compare the two in these low res you tube videos, but even here I can see that the bugatti in F4 looks a lot better, the GT5 one has lots of jaggies, plus it looks PS2ish when standing still.
Icayn 4 months ago
@Icayn The jagged edges are largely due to the dynamic shadows of GT5. Something Forza doesn't have.
rhythmnsmoke 4 months ago
@rhythmnsmoke Not only Forza doesn't have but also pretty much any game on the 360 has better Anti-aliasing than on the PS3. I got both consoles and I haven't seen any game on the PS3 that doesn't have jagged edges including the exclusive games. At first when I bought my PS3 i thought there is something wrong with my PS3 or TV but as it turns out it's just the lack of AA.
bbr11 4 months ago
@bbr11 PS3 games do have AA. Not sure which games you are referring to I've never noticed lack of AA. In GT5 its noticeable due to the dynamic shadowing. The processing power is pretty intense to pull it off. Its evident in the smoke from tires while drifting. Watch a drift vid from Forza and then compare it to smoke from a drift vid in GT5. You will see what I mean.
rhythmnsmoke 4 months ago
@rhythmnsmoke m ofcoarse F4 has dynamic shadows, not many modern games dont. Again its hard to see here mostly due to the sun being high in the sky on the Forza video, but if you simply look at other Forza video in which the sun is lower in the sky you will see the shadows move around the cars depending on the position of the car to the sun.
Icayn 4 months ago
@Icayn So a High sun cast no shadows? It does not have dynamic shadowing. If you think it does then you need to do some research on what it is.
rhythmnsmoke 4 months ago
@rhythmnsmoke yeah, I did that, thats how I found out that Forza has it, so why is it that you think Forza4 does NOT have it, where did you get that idea?
Irregardless of dynamic or not, the shadows in GT5 are horrible, everyone knows this, they dance and flicker like they're on fire, this completely takes away from the realism.
Icayn 4 months ago
@Icayn No it does not. Watch the comparo videos again. It's cars are barely casting a shadow at all. And the smoke from tires is almost non-existent. And when there is smoke, it's a standard code being used without varying the degree of smoke based on the amount of throttle and grip the car has. It's like an on-off switch from what I can tell from the comparo vids. I don't fault GT5 on something New and not done in other racing games if they don't get it 100% perfect the first time.
rhythmnsmoke 4 months ago
Also Forza didn't seem to have an engine idle.
unresolved777 4 months ago
One thing I did notice through out the video, dispite the fact that the car is moving in Forza 4, the shadow remains constant, where as when the car is moving in GT5, the shadow is cast out opposite of the sun. Perfect example is :31-:35 Shadow in Froza remains in a constant state, where as GT's shadow is rotating its casted shadow. Forza seems to have used more dynamic contrast (which helps with textures), where as GT5 uses a balanced dynamic contrast/brightness, more emphasis on brightness.
unresolved777 4 months ago
don´t maeke comparation allready caus' gt5 isn't complete. Pholiphony is working in the new stuff, toda we see only the base of the real gt5
123123river 4 months ago
They both look good, but GT has the edge in realism. I like Forza's menus better though. Forza feels just a bit more on the arcade style for me than GT. The closer to reality, the better, as far as I'm concerned. It's a matter of taste. I have friends that completely disagree with that.
PyroDR 4 months ago
@PyroDR Did you try turning off all the Assist in Forza?
eliarevalo 4 months ago
@eliarevalo I turn off the line, TCS, and STM. I leave ABS on. If you don't spend some real time in GT adjusting suspension, weight balancing, and gearing, a beefed up car is almost undrivable when you turn those things off. I thought I was pretty good a racing games, until I started going back online recently. The newness has warn off, so only people that are serious about their racing games remain. I took a 2000 Celica GTS, and got my ass handed to me by a guy in a VW Bus. Oh the shame.
PyroDR 4 months ago
@eliarevalo That's not possible. Active Steering is permanently built into the game, so you can't technically turn off all the Assist in Forza
rhythmnsmoke 4 months ago
the physics in GT5 are appalling.
bobbygoin 4 months ago
@bobbygoin Your kidding right?
rhythmnsmoke 4 months ago
@bobbygoin in what way?
Misfitgraves23 4 months ago
@Misfitgraves23
this video i saw of a camaro just didn't turn right. it looked really unnatural.
bobbygoin 4 months ago
@Misfitgraves23
it was on this dirt road track, not this place.
bobbygoin 4 months ago
forza looks and sounds way better
infamousgaming3 4 months ago
To be honest i don't see a big difference between the low poly gt5 bugatti and the forza bugatti....
Raks17 4 months ago
GT5 has better graphics. Forza has better sound.
intenseLAG 4 months ago
Both the same......
TheBioLover 4 months ago
Forza 4
athfuhshgh 4 months ago
Forza wins
mauriciotagua 4 months ago
☞ ❤❤❤GT5❤❤❤ ☜
MrStevex26 4 months ago
GT4 is better than all of them
123jaydonjessica 4 months ago
Forza 4
domino17121 4 months ago