wait, I'm confused, I always thought that smokeless powder burned at a faster rate than BP. I thought that black powder was slower burning and therefor less efficient. If someone could explain where I'm wrong, it would be appreciated. Thanx in advance!
@Airsoftpsyco1423 black powder is bi-polar compared to smokeless , unconfined ,a large enough pile of it will explode , it takes less than you would think for this to happen , contained or compressed within a gun barrel a cartridge or say a bottle rocket , its burn rate slows and it becomes a propellant , and it tends to burn at a controllable rate and pressure , with smokeless the higher the pressure the faster the burn rate until it reaches the point of detonation ..
ill take hicok 45 word over holly wood any day.movie props is one thing,realty is another.movies also showing john wayne wielding a .50 cal machine gun with perfect shots.any idea how heavy and how much recoil there? only in hollywood babe
OK, now do the one from Die hard where the plane is taking off and Bruce whips out his Zippo and lights a dribble of jet fuel coming out of the plane's fuel tank. The flame chases down the airplane while it is in the air. In the winter, at night, exploding it like a thousand suns. I'm guessing that one would not pass scrutiny either.
I do not think the modern powders like Goex which was used in this demo can be compared to the older powders which most likely burned slower and not as well made. However, the older black powder still burned much faster than the modern smokeless in open air.
hey i have a question if u dont mind me asking is backfiring a real thing do guns really back fire and cause injury to the shooter or is that just another myth?
hickok the mythbuster ya lol :D . black powder can nearly be compare to tnt or not even close ? , like could make a explosive device with it probably lol , not asking you for tips for a terrorist attack by the way .. !
It is interesting that Black powder was used in Fuse cord. It was finely ground and then applied to paper which was then rolled up. into a fuse. The whole reason for using small amounts was to control the rate of burn so that a set time per length could be established. This is why you see cord made to throw off flaming sparks as it burns along. It is pretty much the gunpowder granules exploding along the way.
@turbosnigel777 Yes, The Construction of both the fuse and Black Powder Matter. I have personally had a Chance to make fuses with Craft Tissue paper and Cigaret Paper in a kind of craft workshop, and While I am not good, varying what you do changes things dramatically. The results of each student were different. One left the granules a bit big in places and as the paper was going, bits were dropping away since It was lit from a hanging position, and igniting in air, about a half inch lower.
even though you destroyed the myth in my head from all the spaghetti westerns i watched THANKS FOR THE ENLIGHTENMENT. If i have to ever escape from a situation by using gunpowder i'll make sure to check the type of powder. lol
However now you must do the 80 yard line of the black powder to see if the myth about the end of the line going up by the time you remove the lighter.ok not that dangerous of a way BUT DO IT ANYWAY. be safe thx again
@masterofnotmuch I don't know what balck powder is like on your world but on this planet it does not care how thick or thin the line is, it burns at the same rate- really,really fast. The only thing that might slow the burn rate down is if it damp.
discussion of a western movie device somehow becomes about internal ballistics!?!? all i can say is, mr hickok, don't mention time travel or the space time continuum lest that morph into who knows what!
You can compare the residue on the boards, too. But the rate it burns is quite dependent on the width of the trail, as the Mythbusters demonstrated (But never said). However, if you were spreading powder around with a barrel, you wouldn't get those neat little half-inch wide trails they had. I can't say how wide the trails were in Westerns, but they obviously wouldn't have used a powder flask to lay it down.
@taofledermaus I'd say that this would not be advisable, but I'd say it would most likely not cause you desaster. The other way round is, on the other hand, a guaranteed pipe-bomb.
I get a kick out of western movies that have people throwing around sticks of dynamite. I believe dynamite was invented around 1908. Before that it was black powder, or pure nitroglycerin.
mythbusters did this and they showed that you can in fact easily outrun a longer line of black powder, which I have also personally confirmed, both with homemade and store bought black powder
@oqiwelkanld , Everybody is an expert. All this videos shows is that if you pour two lines of powder from a can in about the same amounts, the black powder will far out run the smokeless. I'm sure something can be done to change it. The lines they always pour in the Westerns are from a keg and burn in slow motion almost.
@oqiwelkanld I would not bet my life on anything Mythbusters does. Those clowns are more wrong than right. As far as homemade black powder it isn't worth the risk.
While this is a great demonstration, I think that it might be giving people some wrong ideas. Burning smokeless outside is different from "burning" it inside a cartridge--the former is the usual oxidation of fire, while the latter is explosive decomposition (detonation). Black powder burns faster outside because it contains oxidizers. However, inside a cartridge black powder burns at the same rate as outside, while smokeless literally explodes much faster and builds pressure more rapidly.
@rbrtck , That was not the point at all; the point was demonstrating how the Westerns got it wrong. What happens inside a cartridge case has nothing to do with the Western characters burning a line of Black powder, or am I missing something.
@hickok45, No criticism of your wonderful demonstration was intended. It shows exactly what you wanted it to show. The issue is that in the comments some folks are deriving unintended conclusions from what they see, saying things like how much faster and more explosive black powder is, even in the context of shooting. I just wanted to point out to people that black powder always undergoes the same chemical reaction, while smokeless can undergo two entirely different reactions.
@hickok45, By the way, I apologize for the manner in which I've worded a number of my comments for this and other videos of yours. They often don't say exactly what I meant, and my only excuse is that I was raised and trained to write essays and detailed reports, and find the 500-character limit on YouTube positively stifling. Needless to say, I've never "tweeted" and don't intend to. ;-) I'll try to do better.
@rbrtck I have to say that when I saw this, I thought - surely a faster burning powder would be more beneficial - ensure complete discharge at the precise moment the primer was struck - and therefore was thinking - surely we haven't taken a backstep in powder technology? So thank you for clearing that up.
About Mythbusters: incidentally I've watched that episode a few hours ago :-)
For what I've seen, the main reason for different burning speeds with black powder is the size of the line: the larger, the faster it burns, with a half inch line burning at "walking" speed and one roughly three times larger burning just as shown in this video.
This in fact makes sense, since blackmatch (the kind of fuse used in westerns, by the way) is covered with a few black powder and it burns slowly.
Actually, It is possible to do the 'gunpowder line' with blackpowder. The blackpowder you used has gone through what's called the 'corning' process in which black powder has went through a wet stage then left to dry, this was done at first as a means to extend it's shelf life, But it also made the blackpowder burn alot quicker. However pre-corned black powder, burns slow, It would take about a minute for pre-corned black powder to burn an 8 foot long line.
@hickok45 Indeed, there's no reason to sell uncorned black powder as it's nearly useless because it burns too slowly. The reason the process was done originally was to improve it's shelf life because before corning, the ingredients tended to seperate with movement. But corning also had the side effect of making the black powder burn faster, you can tell it's been corned with the larger grains (it's one reason why it's called corning.) Uncorned black powder is fine as dust.
Best vid poster on the net! Before I started watching your vids I rarely came to youtube. Now I check out your channel regularly! Someone give Hickok his own show!
Wow. Imagine how unstable black powder was on the civil war battlefield! Imagine manning an old artillery battery in the heat of battle! You probably had a reasonable probability of blowing yourself up.
Artillery units had rate of fire schedules to prevent accidental cookoff (hot barrel igniting powder charge prematurely).
Unfortunately, during battle, it's tough to sit and wait a few minutes between shots when you're taking fire yourself, and many pieces did scatter and kill their operators.
@enjoythewildUSA That kind of problem existed for hundreds of years, ever since the first firearms came into place. But it sure kicked the crap out of that charging knight in full plate mail, or that sturdy stone castle wall.
WOW at first i thought you where going to light it under your nose, i was thinking dont do it!!! Ive been around alot of black powder and smokeless powder, you have too. GREAT VIDEO!!
Thanks so much for your demonstration. Before your video I was aware that black powder was explosive but never as sensitive as your demonstration showed. I guess that's why so many black powder companies had numerous explosions.
Thanks for the video that was cool. When I have extra powder I dont need thats smokeless I burn it but I have never compared the burn rate between smokeless and black poweder.
MythBusters did a episode just like this. But the powder they used burnt faster then the modern powder...but alot slower then black powder. I think they said that they used black powder. I don't know...I'd have to see it again.
Well, I don't know what they would have done. I've been messing with smokeless powder and black powder since the early '70s, and what I show here is what I've observed during that time period. All smokeless I've ever burned burns at this rate, and all black powder I've ever burned burns at the rate shown. Maybe I busted the "Mythbusters" myth if they didn't show it correctly! :-)
i loved that black powder and the firecrackers made it even better. 100/100 i loved it. cant wait for your next video. so all in all the cowboy movies are not that accurate.
thanks for the demo! that must have been a lot of powder that you burned thru just to do the demo for us... probably hundreds of rounds worth of reloads.
@berryjs140 - no, it's actually the opposite. Smokeless powder is more powerful than black powder and it burns more evenly and deliberately, which allows much higher projectile velocities than black powder could ever achieve.
That was good. I had no idea BP burned so much faster. You'd think everything modern would be faster, such is not the case. Do you think you would be able to shoot a gun out of a snowman, or a zombie's hand? I always thought that was just a myth, but you might be able to pull it off, also the hipfire was a interesting sugg. Always enjoy it. *****
A couple of my boys, without my knowledge, had takeen to getting into my reloading supplies. They'd pile a bit of smokeless powder on the driveway and light it with a match. They got away with it until, one night, they used some black powder. The flash put one in the hospital with second degree facial burns. Fortunartely, he got a lasting respect for the ol' man's gun powder and no scars. (First aid treatment: have him kneel in a tub of cold water and dunk his face while dad gets dressed.)
@blainenay - Boys will be boys, eh? Heh heh. Fortunately they didn't make a bomb out of the stuff and hurt themselves even worse.
A friend of mine in high school had a nasty scar about the size of a silver dollar on his inner wrist from when he removed the black powder from one of those model rocket "engines" and apparently had it burn (and keep burning) while stuck to his skin.
learn something new every day! cool video!
dasjr67 11 hours ago
Thanks for clearing the air on that myth sir!
Morepullups 1 week ago
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Morepullups 1 week ago
Don't forget cartoons. They always do this in cartoons too. Bugs Bunny...Tom & Jerry...the Coyote...
Richard
southeast Tennessee
richardelam100 2 weeks ago
Excellent demonstration and debunking.
My Dad about fifteen years ago made the terrible mistake of directly light a small pile of black powder with a lighter.
*POOF*
He badly scorched his hand in the process.
For those of you who don't already know, black powder burns at the same rate, whether out in the open or confined.
Smokeless burns slowly in the open, but considerably faster and with far more energy than an equivalent of black powder when confined.
PinkOld 3 weeks ago
RIP headphone users :'(
thercpoop 1 month ago
wait, I'm confused, I always thought that smokeless powder burned at a faster rate than BP. I thought that black powder was slower burning and therefor less efficient. If someone could explain where I'm wrong, it would be appreciated. Thanx in advance!
dachipchipboiz 1 month ago
@dachipchipboiz thats the point of the video, to disprove the myth of black powder being a slow burner as is seen in cowboy movies
hotbegreturns 3 weeks ago
Does black powder's burn speed increase with pressure? B/c I'm pretty sure that's how smokeless powder works... Just curious.
Airsoftpsyco1423 1 month ago
@Airsoftpsyco1423 black powder is bi-polar compared to smokeless , unconfined ,a large enough pile of it will explode , it takes less than you would think for this to happen , contained or compressed within a gun barrel a cartridge or say a bottle rocket , its burn rate slows and it becomes a propellant , and it tends to burn at a controllable rate and pressure , with smokeless the higher the pressure the faster the burn rate until it reaches the point of detonation ..
heavyfuelv2 1 month ago
don't they mix them to get the speed they want...
daddyoca69 1 month ago
ill take hicok 45 word over holly wood any day.movie props is one thing,realty is another.movies also showing john wayne wielding a .50 cal machine gun with perfect shots.any idea how heavy and how much recoil there? only in hollywood babe
scprepper55 2 months ago
OK, now do the one from Die hard where the plane is taking off and Bruce whips out his Zippo and lights a dribble of jet fuel coming out of the plane's fuel tank. The flame chases down the airplane while it is in the air. In the winter, at night, exploding it like a thousand suns. I'm guessing that one would not pass scrutiny either.
fastacker2 2 months ago
Life is good with hickok45 !
ChurchillCigar 2 months ago
bam bam ba bam bam...... bam bam lol
hpbroncofan 2 months ago
I think u made ur camera deff
cdbrag 2 months ago
I do not think the modern powders like Goex which was used in this demo can be compared to the older powders which most likely burned slower and not as well made. However, the older black powder still burned much faster than the modern smokeless in open air.
nicksynnz 2 months ago
As for Hollywood Western movie bloopers: I want the 1873 Colt that somehow has been fitted with a eight or nine shot cylinder.
NJPurling 2 months ago
great video, don't let the haters bring you down!
tomthebomb990 3 months ago
If Black Powder burns harder and faster, wouldn't that combustion mean more power to send something further and faster?
supermankicass 3 months ago
Flippin' Hollywood, making us all dumb that enjoys movies.
MavHunter20XX 3 months ago
Please DO run a line of powder out to the gong! I want to see that!
wrght9185 3 months ago
Leave me in my old west delusional fantasy. The bad guys still get caught......don't they?
TR5T 3 months ago
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@TR5T
No, the bad guys don't get caught. They get shot!
Watcher3223 3 months ago
Out Standing Video Demonstration Hickock!
This way people can see the difference between Modern Smokeless Powder and Black Powder(Gun Powder)
MrKaido93 4 months ago
Awesome video :)
MyJt7 4 months ago
your awesome!!
joeAwharton 5 months ago
hey i have a question if u dont mind me asking is backfiring a real thing do guns really back fire and cause injury to the shooter or is that just another myth?
MACEX1000 5 months ago
I really enjoy your videos. Thanks.
authentichuman 6 months ago
busted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
auradud3 6 months ago
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vtogvblog 6 months ago
Not true watch mythbusters on discovery channel
Mikelauder2009 6 months ago
cool thanks for the knowledge
eatwatukill 6 months ago
i kinda wanna see you burn a line of black powder that goes all the way out to the gong
dukewayne91 8 months ago 5
what exactly is a firebug license?
ithpally 8 months ago
So... where can i get Black Powder?
Just Wondering
59LOWLIFE 8 months ago
@59LOWLIFE any well stocked firearms store...
Lonewolf6565 6 months ago
i rewinded H45's ''boom'' around 34 seconds a few times...i found it funny. ever notice that it's only us men who do sound effects?
paikmendez 8 months ago
i love how 95% of the people suddenly became Stallone in "The Specialist"! Guys, you need to relax, you are missing the point of the video...
ComandanteJ 9 months ago
Life is good :)
timclas 9 months ago
hickok the mythbuster ya lol :D . black powder can nearly be compare to tnt or not even close ? , like could make a explosive device with it probably lol , not asking you for tips for a terrorist attack by the way .. !
weedstah777 10 months ago
good demo hickok, this was done in my hunting safetly class. thin line, fat line, black powder burns very fasy and explosive
chevy327sm 10 months ago
if you have a big pile of black powder, would it cause a fire or an explosion ?
leema74 10 months ago
I'd call that myth BUSTED.
railroadtrash09 11 months ago
It is interesting that Black powder was used in Fuse cord. It was finely ground and then applied to paper which was then rolled up. into a fuse. The whole reason for using small amounts was to control the rate of burn so that a set time per length could be established. This is why you see cord made to throw off flaming sparks as it burns along. It is pretty much the gunpowder granules exploding along the way.
TheFoundersWereRight 1 year ago
@TheFoundersWereRight
The amount of blackpowder in a fuse dos not affect burnrate in a greate amount.
"pyroclock"(Tm) uses blackpowder fuse for delay, and the core in the fuse is close to a cm in diameter!
"tissu fuse" is still made for fireworks in China
Singel unconfined granules are not used in fuse, and does not "explode" but the relatively big charcol used in fuse composition makes sparks.
Same ratio & ingrediens, Googel "black powder fuse mix" and se the difrence in manufacturing!
turbosnigel777 1 year ago
@turbosnigel777 Yes, The Construction of both the fuse and Black Powder Matter. I have personally had a Chance to make fuses with Craft Tissue paper and Cigaret Paper in a kind of craft workshop, and While I am not good, varying what you do changes things dramatically. The results of each student were different. One left the granules a bit big in places and as the paper was going, bits were dropping away since It was lit from a hanging position, and igniting in air, about a half inch lower.
TheFoundersWereRight 1 year ago
cool! and on my birthday too. can i get a bigger explosion this march 7th?
thanks hickok45.
pugs1377 1 year ago
Interesting, but i would like to add that I have also done this in the context of simulating black powder mining 18Th century style.
I did it for a popular tourist silver mine, here in Sala, Sweden. Witch worked excellent and slow enough to work!
Difference being that the powder was on the ground with a smaller slope and of bigger granules, not as intimately mixed.
Also, the blasting powder being made out of Sodium nitrate (NaNO3) for mining, instead of Potassium nitrate (KNO3) used for guns.
turbosnigel777 1 year ago
Do you need a licence to buy gunpowder in Tennessee?
CrazyCanuck129 1 year ago
what happen to his eyebrows
grandtheftmrb 1 year ago
I like you hickok, we need more people like you in our shooting comunity.
toprun95 1 year ago
Awesome!!!
jah2mail 1 year ago
even though you destroyed the myth in my head from all the spaghetti westerns i watched THANKS FOR THE ENLIGHTENMENT. If i have to ever escape from a situation by using gunpowder i'll make sure to check the type of powder. lol
However now you must do the 80 yard line of the black powder to see if the myth about the end of the line going up by the time you remove the lighter.ok not that dangerous of a way BUT DO IT ANYWAY. be safe thx again
SixStringPirate 1 year ago
if you put down a thinner line it will burn slower
masterofnotmuch 1 year ago 7
@masterofnotmuch , That's not what they do in the Westerns, so I was not interested in a thinner line. :-)
hickok45 1 year ago 66
@hickok45 yep and if you ask me if you want to blow something up with a line of black power you should use a big line so it gets there faster hehe
masterofnotmuch 1 year ago
@masterofnotmuch I don't know what balck powder is like on your world but on this planet it does not care how thick or thin the line is, it burns at the same rate- really,really fast. The only thing that might slow the burn rate down is if it damp.
klesmer 8 months ago
@masterofnotmuch actually if you put down a thicker line it would burn slower.the mythbusters tested it
rangerslover01 2 months ago
@masterofnotmuch Hickock doesn't do "thinner" "smaller" "slower" or "lesser" .. in fact, he doesn't even know what those words mean!
zdrux 2 months ago 3
discussion of a western movie device somehow becomes about internal ballistics!?!? all i can say is, mr hickok, don't mention time travel or the space time continuum lest that morph into who knows what!
ahoyhoy79 1 year ago
You can compare the residue on the boards, too. But the rate it burns is quite dependent on the width of the trail, as the Mythbusters demonstrated (But never said). However, if you were spreading powder around with a barrel, you wouldn't get those neat little half-inch wide trails they had. I can't say how wide the trails were in Westerns, but they obviously wouldn't have used a powder flask to lay it down.
Sandshark43 1 year ago
depends what grade black powder
Raydoom1 1 year ago
What would happen if you re-loaded your modern ammo with black powder? Would that be a recipe for disaster?
taofledermaus 1 year ago
@taofledermaus I'd say that this would not be advisable, but I'd say it would most likely not cause you desaster. The other way round is, on the other hand, a guaranteed pipe-bomb.
LutzDerLurch 1 year ago
I get a kick out of western movies that have people throwing around sticks of dynamite. I believe dynamite was invented around 1908. Before that it was black powder, or pure nitroglycerin.
cypresscoach 1 year ago
mythbusters did this and they showed that you can in fact easily outrun a longer line of black powder, which I have also personally confirmed, both with homemade and store bought black powder
oqiwelkanld 1 year ago 4
@oqiwelkanld , Everybody is an expert. All this videos shows is that if you pour two lines of powder from a can in about the same amounts, the black powder will far out run the smokeless. I'm sure something can be done to change it. The lines they always pour in the Westerns are from a keg and burn in slow motion almost.
hickok45 1 year ago 32
@oqiwelkanld I would not bet my life on anything Mythbusters does. Those clowns are more wrong than right. As far as homemade black powder it isn't worth the risk.
klesmer 8 months ago
black powders the real deal!
Vforceboy 1 year ago
@leudrerrep who didn't think it was lethal?
Halvorson 1 year ago
I love black powder! If it wouldn't soil my guns so bad, I'd shoot it out of my 870 constantly..
mikeb1444 1 year ago
So if there was a barrel of gunpowder at the end of the line would it explode?
jaymcgranahan 1 year ago
I applaused anyways lol
BlackSabbath1204 1 year ago
try laying your trail thinner it will burn more slowly
Ralphgtx280 1 year ago
it wasn't just westerns...they did it wrong in bugs bunny cartoons too
agentspinnaker 1 year ago 4
I don't really care much for the science behind it, I just know that was pyromaniac awesomness!!!!!
BeyondtheChaos1 1 year ago
If i send you a small donation will you make a line all the way to the gong?
141nw21strd 1 year ago 33
@141nw21strd , No, don't send any money, but that would take a lot of powder and money.
hickok45 1 year ago 15
@hickok45 i know i was only kidding
141nw21strd 1 year ago
Still, they made fuse cord with black powder (I think they still do--at least on fireworks), and then it goes slow...
GetMeThere1 1 year ago
While this is a great demonstration, I think that it might be giving people some wrong ideas. Burning smokeless outside is different from "burning" it inside a cartridge--the former is the usual oxidation of fire, while the latter is explosive decomposition (detonation). Black powder burns faster outside because it contains oxidizers. However, inside a cartridge black powder burns at the same rate as outside, while smokeless literally explodes much faster and builds pressure more rapidly.
rbrtck 1 year ago
@rbrtck , That was not the point at all; the point was demonstrating how the Westerns got it wrong. What happens inside a cartridge case has nothing to do with the Western characters burning a line of Black powder, or am I missing something.
hickok45 1 year ago 21
@hickok45, No criticism of your wonderful demonstration was intended. It shows exactly what you wanted it to show. The issue is that in the comments some folks are deriving unintended conclusions from what they see, saying things like how much faster and more explosive black powder is, even in the context of shooting. I just wanted to point out to people that black powder always undergoes the same chemical reaction, while smokeless can undergo two entirely different reactions.
rbrtck 1 year ago
@hickok45, By the way, I apologize for the manner in which I've worded a number of my comments for this and other videos of yours. They often don't say exactly what I meant, and my only excuse is that I was raised and trained to write essays and detailed reports, and find the 500-character limit on YouTube positively stifling. Needless to say, I've never "tweeted" and don't intend to. ;-) I'll try to do better.
rbrtck 1 year ago
@rbrtck I have to say that when I saw this, I thought - surely a faster burning powder would be more beneficial - ensure complete discharge at the precise moment the primer was struck - and therefore was thinking - surely we haven't taken a backstep in powder technology? So thank you for clearing that up.
TheEnglishRedneck45 1 year ago
what is a firebug license?
UnderTheGun1122 1 year ago
NICE!
edwardwills 1 year ago
About Mythbusters: incidentally I've watched that episode a few hours ago :-)
For what I've seen, the main reason for different burning speeds with black powder is the size of the line: the larger, the faster it burns, with a half inch line burning at "walking" speed and one roughly three times larger burning just as shown in this video.
This in fact makes sense, since blackmatch (the kind of fuse used in westerns, by the way) is covered with a few black powder and it burns slowly.
Pirlinetor 1 year ago
Actually, It is possible to do the 'gunpowder line' with blackpowder. The blackpowder you used has gone through what's called the 'corning' process in which black powder has went through a wet stage then left to dry, this was done at first as a means to extend it's shelf life, But it also made the blackpowder burn alot quicker. However pre-corned black powder, burns slow, It would take about a minute for pre-corned black powder to burn an 8 foot long line.
AduneStormwind 1 year ago
@AduneStormwind
The only black powder I"ve ever seen is like what I've always bought. It all burns at the same rate.
hickok45 1 year ago 6
@hickok45 Indeed, there's no reason to sell uncorned black powder as it's nearly useless because it burns too slowly. The reason the process was done originally was to improve it's shelf life because before corning, the ingredients tended to seperate with movement. But corning also had the side effect of making the black powder burn faster, you can tell it's been corned with the larger grains (it's one reason why it's called corning.) Uncorned black powder is fine as dust.
AduneStormwind 1 year ago
How did you figure that one out, other than by doing what you did I mean?
I shoot black powder as well, nothing takes down a Buffalo like a 45-110 Buffalo rifle.
Conan568 1 year ago
@Conan568 ,
Oh, I've tested this sort of thing for decades. Actually, I forget that lots of people
are not aware of it.
hickok45 1 year ago
MythBusters actually did an episode on this as well... you should check it out Hickok... it's really cool
JDW857 1 year ago
I made that mistake a few years ago not realizing just how fast it would be!
dogbert41 2 years ago
Cool. I was not aware black powder burned that fast.
Docbrown777 2 years ago
Best vid poster on the net! Before I started watching your vids I rarely came to youtube. Now I check out your channel regularly! Someone give Hickok his own show!
yerscattergun 2 years ago 31
AWESOME!
Tiptonsm 2 years ago
nice exhibition
usframe 2 years ago
Great vid.
77777DIAMOND77777 2 years ago
Another good video!! That man knows what he´s talking about... Finally with him there will be no more bullshit on here!
coolmike1989 2 years ago 5
awesome video
calynch2000 2 years ago
That was lots of fun to watch. Maybe you could get a hot red head Like Kari Byron to help you when you do your myth busting. : )
scubaguy007 2 years ago 3
Great demonstration. Looks kind of like my homemade 4th of July shows.
1glockfan 2 years ago 2
nice
SketchElRaver 2 years ago
that was pretty cool
curtisG19 2 years ago
hahahahaha, good one
mansers69 2 years ago
Interesting. Black powder burns faster, but has a lower barrel pressure than smokeless. Makes me want to get out the muzzleloader!
RunThemAll 2 years ago
I always enjoy watching your videos. Thank you for doing all the "arduous" work so those of us without awesome ranges can see how things work.
envenomedchili 2 years ago
*****
OilTheGun 2 years ago
never gets old watching gun powder burn like on the mythbusters
spicey009 2 years ago
@spicey009
mythbusters sucks though.
target741 1 year ago
Great video sir!
CampfireTalk 2 years ago
good info sir .
RemingtonG3 2 years ago
great vid dude!!!
plotagainstjohn 2 years ago
DYNAMITE vid ! ( :
Hemulen40 2 years ago
good vid.....you dang pyro!!!
glockster68 2 years ago
Wow. Imagine how unstable black powder was on the civil war battlefield! Imagine manning an old artillery battery in the heat of battle! You probably had a reasonable probability of blowing yourself up.
enjoythewildUSA 2 years ago
Artillery units had rate of fire schedules to prevent accidental cookoff (hot barrel igniting powder charge prematurely).
Unfortunately, during battle, it's tough to sit and wait a few minutes between shots when you're taking fire yourself, and many pieces did scatter and kill their operators.
silvermediastudio 2 years ago 2
@enjoythewildUSA That kind of problem existed for hundreds of years, ever since the first firearms came into place. But it sure kicked the crap out of that charging knight in full plate mail, or that sturdy stone castle wall.
Agent1W 1 year ago
Cool video, hickok! Great job; thanks.
rtn1911 2 years ago
Good job.
5965665 2 years ago
WOW at first i thought you where going to light it under your nose, i was thinking dont do it!!! Ive been around alot of black powder and smokeless powder, you have too. GREAT VIDEO!!
arridedry 2 years ago
good vid. another myth busted
510shooter510 2 years ago
DAYUM!!! almost bbq'd ur self there (O_o)
dreamz20091 2 years ago
5 stars * * * * *
Dietzeeeee 2 years ago
Great vid... reminds me of playing with black powder when I was a kid. POOF! No eyebrows. :D
I didn't have a TV. Sue me.
jeffshootsstuff 2 years ago 3
thats cool!
mrfreakiziod 2 years ago
Thanks so much for your demonstration. Before your video I was aware that black powder was explosive but never as sensitive as your demonstration showed. I guess that's why so many black powder companies had numerous explosions.
jolrog45 2 years ago
Wow, what a different between the powders......
Schleicherification 2 years ago
5*****
cornflake71 2 years ago
Thanks for the video that was cool. When I have extra powder I dont need thats smokeless I burn it but I have never compared the burn rate between smokeless and black poweder.
BENLINUZ 2 years ago
just another reason why Hickok's the man!
mhayd990 2 years ago 3
BANG
YouGotNoLifeDude 2 years ago
I heard about this myth before. I would have tested it out too but I don't have the resources. Keep up the excellent work.
KiwiLovin7 2 years ago
Never knew black powder burned THAT fast before. Very informative, thanks for the video. 5*s
XxLeggZxX 2 years ago
MythBusters did a episode just like this. But the powder they used burnt faster then the modern powder...but alot slower then black powder. I think they said that they used black powder. I don't know...I'd have to see it again.
clap5 2 years ago
@clap5
Well, I don't know what they would have done. I've been messing with smokeless powder and black powder since the early '70s, and what I show here is what I've observed during that time period. All smokeless I've ever burned burns at this rate, and all black powder I've ever burned burns at the rate shown. Maybe I busted the "Mythbusters" myth if they didn't show it correctly! :-)
hickok45 2 years ago
Wow mithbuster
internetjulio 2 years ago
I sound like a recording: awesome! Loved it! :)
gnashings 2 years ago
You should have your own show on discovery channel called myth buster ;) ( just kidding )
I really enjoyed the video and the firecrackers cracked me up :) !
jurianmanche 2 years ago
outstanding!!! thx for this great comparison!!! awesome 5 stars hick
Wiggling 2 years ago
Greg, I only wish you were my teacher back in the day. Informative and easy on the ears.
billrok 2 years ago
hickok45!! you make some of the koolest vids here on youtube
please keep up the good work!
1400deadwood 2 years ago
you were verry smart at the blac powder
nice video's hickok45
interkdv 2 years ago
i loved that black powder and the firecrackers made it even better. 100/100 i loved it. cant wait for your next video. so all in all the cowboy movies are not that accurate.
thanks for the vid
d4v1dh 2 years ago
That was great. I never seen that before. Thanks.5*s
Mr45Bullitt 2 years ago
that was some fun, you definitley layed the ol' yosemite sam on that black powder hickok
jdmcivic91 2 years ago
Great video, love the firecrackers!!
evankoeve 2 years ago
Nice! Wonder if you singed your brows while filming.
nunor72 2 years ago
So awesome.
limekid 2 years ago
awesome
Keeper2728 2 years ago
5/5
Crossfire44 2 years ago
thanks for the demo! that must have been a lot of powder that you burned thru just to do the demo for us... probably hundreds of rounds worth of reloads.
udannlin 2 years ago 2
You guys are worth it!!!
hickok45 2 years ago
I love you man...
p20 2 years ago
5 stars, LIKE ALWAYS
Dkguerilla 2 years ago 2
one thing i love about your videos is i can always give them a five stars before they even start.
dp665 2 years ago 7
why was it exploding at the end?
akshooter762 2 years ago
We put some firecrackers there at the end, just for kicks.
hickok45 2 years ago
@hickok45 wow man this video is awsome
johnathon956 2 years ago
haha i was not expecting that blackpowder to burn so fast...now i see why you had the foot of modern powder...that was crazy
akshooter762 2 years ago
Hey Hickok, it's Monday and that has to be the best vid of the week! I really enjoyed it, many thanks. Keep the vids coming and stay safe. SentinelIP
SentinelIP 2 years ago
Awesome info hickok.
@berryjs140 - no, it's actually the opposite. Smokeless powder is more powerful than black powder and it burns more evenly and deliberately, which allows much higher projectile velocities than black powder could ever achieve.
Vicious471 2 years ago
nice
pyrokid320 2 years ago
Love the mythbusting. Keep it up, thanks.
scottie931 2 years ago
does this mean black powder has more power than modern day powder?
berryjs140 2 years ago
@berryjs140 - I don't think so. I believe it simply burns more cleanly and is less volatile.
johnnytastetest 2 years ago
Not really. It takes more of it normally to equal the same velocity. It has a different burn rate.
hickok45 2 years ago
That was good. I had no idea BP burned so much faster. You'd think everything modern would be faster, such is not the case. Do you think you would be able to shoot a gun out of a snowman, or a zombie's hand? I always thought that was just a myth, but you might be able to pull it off, also the hipfire was a interesting sugg. Always enjoy it. *****
NoiseMostBeautiful 2 years ago
A couple of my boys, without my knowledge, had takeen to getting into my reloading supplies. They'd pile a bit of smokeless powder on the driveway and light it with a match. They got away with it until, one night, they used some black powder. The flash put one in the hospital with second degree facial burns. Fortunartely, he got a lasting respect for the ol' man's gun powder and no scars. (First aid treatment: have him kneel in a tub of cold water and dunk his face while dad gets dressed.)
blainenay 2 years ago
@blainenay - Boys will be boys, eh? Heh heh. Fortunately they didn't make a bomb out of the stuff and hurt themselves even worse.
A friend of mine in high school had a nasty scar about the size of a silver dollar on his inner wrist from when he removed the black powder from one of those model rocket "engines" and apparently had it burn (and keep burning) while stuck to his skin.
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