Oneness -VS- Trinity - DEBATE - 8/11

[zedrev01]

Now he is making accusation that pentecostalism demands that one does not speak in tongue is a question in salvation. Wrong Mr trinitarian. Speak through the verse. No false accusation. I as a one God believer does not judge my fellow christian who is in the trinitarian belief. Because there are trinitarians too that speak in tongue. And some trinitarians question also this trinitarians when they speak in tongue.

[zedrev01]

at 5'40 now he is hitting the pentecostalism and not focusing on the Godhead

[zedrev01]

'Jesus Christ reign will not end but the reign of the Son will end'. Again the trinitarian really is insisting that the name Jesus Christ is only for the Son of God that is why He is questioning the quote of the other pastor. So short is his sight. He can not see that the role of that one God in the flesh has ended and He will no longer be a Son to be sacrificed but He is enthroned as the King of kings and Lord of lords

[zedrev01]

Glory to God! at 3:40 Until you went away from the podium I just can feel the power of God in His Spirit. Jesus is the name! Praise God! Alleluyah!

[diggadoo12]

One cannot be eternally begotten!

Also can you base you spirituality on IMPLIED trinity....never do we find trinity or it's entire concept present at the same time in the bible.

[diggadoo12]

@conception yes. The spirit gives gifts and one of them is tongues....but the tongues in 1 cor is called charismata...I acts it's called dorms....why...it's a different experience. The first instance is called the gift of the holy ghost the gift of tongues is a separate thing altogether.

[kickapoondn]

Brother Bernard was had a real christian act. Cook was just attacking and trying to slanderize him while he knew that he wasn't going to come up and show him up again! Sheez! Have some class Cook!

[moisesokok]

Where can I to buy this video with subtiltes in spanish?

[judahsdaughter]

Rev Cook needs to ask himself how Simeon could pray to the Sovereign LORD in Luke 2:29, yet be holding the ONLY Sovereign while he prayed (Jude 1:4).

[moisesokok]

PLEASE SUBTITLES IN SPANISH

[Brotherfireball1988]

@ServiceProcess- The God we serve is 1 God not Gods as if many or 3 but there is only 1 God that can save us and His name is Jesus He is the Father Son and Holy Ghost His name is not Father or Son or Holy Ghost but it's all summed up in 1 name Jesus Christ the only name that we are to be baptized in Acts 2:38 the Apostles baptized in that 1 name because they knew that He is the 1 and only Savior Is. 43:11 John 4:42 1Tim. 4:10 Acts 4:12

[JIIBlessed]

Wow.. he's Attacking Pentecostals? Really? Pentecostals were the original church. The Day Of Pentecost is the Birthday of The Church.. Smh..

[BibleFrW]

3 persons. The Son had a beginning: Pro 8.22-30 (God has never been without wisdom). The Son is not the Father but is an other self of Him who is the Father (double): Luke 6.12; John 14.9a 'I', 'ME', the Holy Spirit too: Ro 8.27; Jn 14.16 'another'.

3 personnes. Le Fils a un début: Pro 8.22-30 (Dieu n'a jamais été sans sagesse). Le Fils n'est pas le Père mais est UN AUTRE LUI-MÊME de CELUI qui est le Père (double): Luc 6.12; Jn 14.9a 'JE', 'M'as'; l'Esprit-Saint aussi: Ro 8.27; Jn 14.16 'AUTRE'.

[stedmans4christ]

HE'S THE GREAT "I AM" I AM YOUR SAVIOR, I AM THE LAMB, I AM YOUR FATHER, I AM THE HOLY SPIRIT...ETC..ETC..I AM YOUR REDEEMER, I AM YOUR PROVIDER, I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA....AND SO ON. HE IS THE GREAT "I AM" ALL BY HIMSELF, THERE IS ONLY ONE LORD JESUS

[MsActs238girl]

I've prayed with Brother Bernard's daughter, and you can't argue with the spirit you feel from a TRUTH believing woman raised by a TRUTH believing man of GOD!!

[magdixXxGlimh]

All the prophets and apostles believed in the only one God and his name is Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of apostles and prophets,Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone

[Jevis2nt47]

I believe all that Dr. D. Bernard said

[ServiceProcess]

The true Christian, did Good, but I am shocked he didn't bring up John 1:1

Either way I think he had one very valid point but he didn't put it across well.

That they worship different Gods. The Muslims say they worship the God of the bible, the same as we.

Can that be true. No. The Karan contradicts the bible. Therefore our God didn't provide the Karan.

This is along those lines. The God of UPC is by definition not the God of the Christian.

Better to find out now !!!

[polopowers1]

Jesus was Priest to God or was He God the priest serving Himself

[Davertin]

1. Anything one could "go to" is a location. So yes, I am a location.

The Scripture, 1 Cor. 15:44, is true in all of the created order, not just in regards to the Rapture. There is a physical bodily realm and there is a spiritual bodily realm, that exists even now, prior to the Rapture.

2. I think he has as much chance of being raptured as the UPC does.

[ServiceProcess]

@Davertin No you are not a location. You are LOCATED at a location, but you are not a location. A location is a fixed point. of reference. You are not that. You are at that.

[Davertin]

@ServiceProcess

A location is a place of settlement, activity or residence; and a place is a particular portion of space, whether of definite or indefinite extent, of which all people are. I am a location at a location. A car parked in a parking lot is a location parked at a location. On a boat is a location. Likewise, if a talking fly on my arm were to say where he was, he'd say "I'm at Davertin or I'm on Davertin." ANYTHING one could go to is a location.

[ServiceProcess]

@Davertin I like your logic. But it is flawed. You are talking of relative locations. I am talking of absolute (pure) locations. A relative location, although a subset of location (so I would conceed that), is not a true location. I am refering to static locations in the absolute sense. You are refering to non static, and in that instance I guess everything can be a location, which dilutes the concept.

[Davertin]

@ServiceProcess

I gave you the pertinent definitions as established by Random House. If you think their definitions are flawed, issue a grievance.

[Lilsaint09EDC]

Father, Son, Holy Spirit, are title to one God, 1 John 5:7 there are three that bear record in heaven, The Father, The Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. And the Word is God, John 1:3.. One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism.

[1deskboy1]

God is 3 people!! LOL, and im the govenor of CALI-FORNIA!

[arangoboi]

Please someone tell me where Paul says all do not speak in tongues. I have not seen that anywhere.

[larrandol]

1 Corinthians 12: 7-11 - 7 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom... to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues... All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines

[cocnecpion]

1Cr 12:30 "Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? " so you see in this verse the answer is no not everybody will heal somebody nor speak in tounges.

[Michael92486]

You might what to look up the history of the corinthian church before u make this statement.....The sign of those who receive the gift of the holy ghost is speaking in tonuges as the spirit of God give the utterance. Act 2:38-39.

[cocnecpion]

Dear friend I have taught many courses in Bible Theology.You missed the context of that scripture.Did everybody in the Corithian church speak in tounges and where the all saved.....Yes faith alone saves us..... the HOLY GHOST gives the "GIFTS according to his will...l1Cr 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

[arangoboi]

I have to agree with Bernard. The roll of the Son was for the salvation of mankind. When He comes back and when all is over and we are living in eternal paradise, the roll of the Son is complete. God will be with us.

[norray19]

show me one scripture, were anyone used the term, father, son, holyghost, during baptism. JUST ONE!!!!!!!!!! i guarantee u will NOT find THAT. but there r MANY scriptures, were people were BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS!!!!!

[StutteringDave]

Matt. 28:19, "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit."

[norray19]

i said show me ONE scripture where that was used for baptism. u have not proved that.

[norray19]

NAME is singular NOT PLURAL. a FATHER or SON is NOT the name of someone jus a title. if u have a child that is a boy, u give him a name right??? u call him SON only because he is a male child. if u had a girl, u would call her daughter ONLY because she is a female child. but that is not HER NAME, but only a TITLE or something used to describe her.

[eddiefalhaus]

This understanding of name and title is based on the English language- Greek of the day did not make such an distinction- all names had meaning. Thus a name that means father is not a just a 'title' but a name.

[gregoryhack]

Please read the corresponding accounts in Luke and Mark of the Great Commission (Mark 16:15-18, Luke 24:46-49). This will give you further understanding of Matthew's Gospel. Remember Matthew was present on the Day of Pentecost and followed that formula that Peter preached in Acts 2:38-39.

[ronhanish]

baptizing them in the name ...whats the name??????????

[danielbalter]

The unity of God is proclaimed on almost every page of the Hebrew Bible, yet, the Trinity is never mentioned throughout the entire corpus. Dt 32:39, See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me. In Mk 13:32 Jesus said, But concerning that day or that hour, no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. How can God not know something? Finally, God is not a man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. (Num 23:19)

[ronhanish]

Jesus has to reveal it to Mr. Cook thru prayer and Word

[opticonboi]

WOW, even after the debate is over with Rev. Cook continues to attack Bro. Bernard knowing that he cannot defend himself at that point. the three minutes were made to close the arguement not keep it going.

[Rosman1974]

I have all his books! Brother Bernard is the man!

[labudda1on1]

@Rosman1974 AMEN! What sounds more like a loving God one who sends his Son or HImself? How loving is it that they believe the two are seperate?

[sohostripperplus]

I used to be a JW and watching this debate reminds me why!

[menobrrs]

jw? does that mean jew?

[sohostripperplus]

um no..Jehovah's witness lol

[menobrrs]

jaja, oh.ok.

[menobrrs]

Genesis 18:1 its good 4 Cathollic Christians to runup wit people like these(predicted in Holy Scripture by da way)this strenghtens fatih.advise:b4 you change Churches/faith,try 2 @ Least research.find out meanings of Mass,Sacraments,Mary,there are many Confused Catholics who bcome like Bernards and Cooks,but few True Catholic Christians;back in da day,people respected God so much dat barely refered 2 Him as YAVEH(spanish Bible)& u feel wit da right to come & do it & even change the name 2 Jehova

[essay1122]

Good debate. David, thou almost persuadist me! All you have said with regard to scripture gives credible evidence to your oneness belief. Mr Cook, I had trouble staying with you at times which has given way to doubt concerning my triune belief. If there was ever a time I needed the Lord, it is now, I am troubled and so I will search to seek truth. Pray that God would lead me into a greater light. I am thankful for the debate, twas well controled compared to other debates I have witnessed.

[timmyhenry1974]

Concerning the oneness debate- I appreciate your comment. I will pray for you.

God is not against you, but for you.  He wants us to be saved, more than WE want to be saved.

Be encouraged and keep hungering for more of God.

Rex Johnson- DAllas TX

CLC

[Minisuront]

WHy is everyone trying to find flaws with Rev. Bernard? He is thanking Rev. Cook and saying thanks for coming out tonight ... Why are we hating Rev. Bernard? Is it because your convicted by what he is saying? You don't understand what he is saying, but your too lazy to take the time to read the scriptures and would rather comment in an unchristian-like manner on these videos.

[spgdmin]

I couldn't help but notice the clapping and "wooing" coming out of the audience [often while the men were still trying to speak]. Bernard's "cheering section" behaved more like they were at a wrestling "cage match" [or one of their typical "worship" services] rather than a respectful debate.

Like their infamous song brags concerning themselves..."We've been known to get wild..." Yes, that's pretty much what you're known for.

[novrecs]

i KNOW!!!! THEIR FREAKING INSANE!!!! how dare they applaud?

[mcacts1]

Duff:/ We use applauding to agree, just as saying amen. Why can't we clap or make a joyful noise. We are in the ONE true God! What's wrong with that?

[slikpinoyxp]

spirit bodies does not have flesh and blood natural body has flesh and blood. God is a spirit he could dwell in a natural body like us because he is a spirit. Satan is a spirit the spirit of God cannot dwell in another spirit but they can communicate in the story of job

[Davertin]

David Bernard - "Satan is not a physical location, Satan is a spirit being".

Once again, the cult indulges its heretical appetite in irresponsible, irrational, mentally lazy comments by one David Bernard.

...There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

1 Cor. 15:44

There ARE spiritual bodies, one of which Satan possesses, hence he IS a spiritual location, which, within the supernatural realm, is just as physical as physical locations are within the natural realm.

[Michael92486]

One question......Are u a location?......and the scriture u referenced is refering to the rapture....second question.....is the Satan going to ratured with the saint?