Fox News promotes Social Darwinism

[remalycharles73]

what's wrong with Social Darwinism ; we have to many stupid people breeding .

[94kamie]

@remalycharles73 hitler thought the same thing

[rdx506]

If it weren't for the U.S., "Third-World Countries" would still be living in trees and eating their own shit.

[101simar]

I remember that black ugly dude from another video where he argues with peter schiff that the market was not collapsing... what a hypocrite

[Troforso]

talk about bad journalism, this is a discussion of people who all agree on the same thing.

[Jacquelyn104]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

[TheRomanBros]

WWE JBL on Fox?!

[grisgriz85]

Whoever makes a bad investment should lose money, go out of business, and, if necessary, file for bankruptcy.

That includes homeowners who can't pay the mortgages as well as those Wall Street speculating thieves!

[lordhighexecutioner]

As was said about Atlas Shrugged by a conservative critic, each page had the message "To a gas chamber, go!"

[MrTbjennings]

This is what conservatives rebublicans want. Let the dummies who cant support them selves suffer. Im a conservative republican and im tired of all the poor people

[MrTbjennings]

This is what conservatives rebublicans want. Let the dummies who cant support them selves suffer

[ameriskin74]

Only the inferior whine about Social Darwinism. "It's unfair... It's inhumane... Blah, blah, blah". Spineless weaklings, it's just natural, isn't that what you hippies are always sqawking about?! Hahahahaha

[HAIDARAVEN]

@ameriskin74 lol social darwinism was not good for the banks,,,,,,,they were to big to fail,why give to the banks? how come they did not let the banks fail?

[lordhighexecutioner]

@HAIDARAVEN Actually, Social Darwinism dictates that if you are strong and influential enough to get government to bail out your bad gambles then this is proof that you are amongst the fittest and most worthy. That they are too big to fail prove their supremacy over us all, Social Darwinism would conclude.

[HAIDARAVEN]

@lordhighexecutioner Actually its the Golden rule more than social Darwinism Those with the Gold make the rules

[Imhornydadcomeinside]

@HAIDARAVEN Social darwinism was about social hierarcies rather than race, racial biologist made it more racial after spencer came up with it. Rich people in America wanted to hear Spencers theories because he teached that rich people gain wealth through superiority of intellect (kinda reminds you oof the term "blue blood" and the nobility in Europe), specers dumb theories were a great gift for american inhumane capitalism, whitewashed inequality and made the poor stupid and beyond education.

[MirageScience]

lack of regulation did not lead to this

FUCKING WITH INTEREST RATES DOES THIS

[lordhighexecutioner]

@MirageScience The unregulated market in Mortgage Backed Securities increased demand for mortgages to be chopped up and packaged for fraudulent purposes. The lack of regulation certainly was the reason.

[rdx506]

@lordhighexecutioner The "market" was HIGHLY regulated! Congress required that baks make loans to people who were not 'credit-worthy' ("anti-redlining") then required that Fannie Mae buy those risky mortgages from the banks. Just Google Maxine Waters saying "The outstanding leadership of Mr. Frank Raines." She and Barney Frank accused Republicans of "racism" when Bush tried to limit this in 2004(?) Facts are facts !

[rocklandrez]

They kept on saying that the banks are paying for their mistakes. Actually, no, the govt bailed them out.

[STEPHENWRAYSFORD33]

Darwinism is often attacked by the Left because they think Darwinism leads to raw free market capitalism. Also Darwinism means variation in species & genes control behaviour. The left doesn't like this because it goes agaisnt the idea of all humans being equal & any faults in humans are society's fault. On the right Darwinism is attacked for being a biological explanation for life, instead of a religious one. Some on the right think Darwinism = competition & leads to the break down of society.

[mecher3k]

@STEPHENWRAYSFORD33

"Darwinism is often attacked by the Left"

Lies. It's the right wing that does that because they are the side made up of religious fundies.

Good job at lying in everyway possible with that.

[STEPHENWRAYSFORD33]

@mecher3k In the USA Darwinism may be attacked by the right only but elsewhere it gets some stick from the left too. For example Neo-Darwinism was banned in the former Soviet Union for years. Look up Lysenko on Wikipeida. In another example Richard Dawkins was personally blamed by some Left-Wing writers for the election of Margaret Thatcher because of his book 'the Selfih Gene' The left-wing writers had probably never read the book but believed that it was encouraging selfishness & competition.

[mecher3k]

@STEPHENWRAYSFORD33

So you have two examples, that's not often.

Often is the right wing in the USA being against reality.

[MadHatterTruth]

Social Darwinism is Eugenics

[STEPHENWRAYSFORD33]

@MadHatterTruth Social Darwinism isn't Eugenics. Social Darwinists believe all governments have to do is allow free market capitalism & stop help for the poor. They think the poor would quickly die off & clever & rich would prosper & not have to support the poor through taxes. This theory is of course horrible. Eugenicsts believe only a small section of the poor are inferior or defective. Eugenists want to reduce the birth rates for these people & increase the birth rates among wealthier people.

[MadHatterTruth]

@STEPHENWRAYSFORD33 cool thanks

[REman07]

I love how they always push a token black guy out there to read a few scripted lines.

Faux News sued for the right-to-lie in their newscasts and some crackpot judge ruled that they do have the right to distort the news anyway they want to since they own the network. Forget about the fact that we the public own the airwaves.

These people are sociopaths.

[AggressiveAtheist]

Faux News believes in social creationism, which is when something bad happens, God did it to punish the gays, Muslims, liberals, atheists, etc.

[ToxicOdiousOne]

Every economic system is built on social darwinism. Capitalism is social darwinism. The strong shall prevail the weak shall die off and be weeded out by natural selection. Every society has social stratification. Everybody is different and not equally skilled. Egalitarianism fails. We can't all be dentists. Social darwinism is part of the natural law and try as you might you can no more change the laws that govern gravity than any other natural law.

[KingKongRules001]

Yes, but a little help from the government is not a bad thing either. If social darwinism absolutely ruled society then it would be chaos. Say if you were born poor and could afford to be at school. Because there is no public school since the idea of "social darwinism" is every man is out for himself. Do you think thats fair? Without the government there would be no public roads, schools, libraries and more. Also there would be no laws against suppression of the rich on the poor like labor...

[ToxicOdiousOne]

Government never helped anyone. Government controls. Government dominates. Yes it is fair. You were born to poor people because they weren't thinking. You were born to poor people because your parents are waiting for their next welfare check. Wealth or poverty the choice is yours. Poverty isn't a condition it is a choice people make. Highways could have been done by the states. Why do we need a federal government? Schools are private. Who uses libraries? Unions serve no purpose anymore.

[KingKongRules001]

"Government never helped anyone" who the fuck do you suppose is going to protect you if China all the sudden decide to invade us? Or stop corruption in society ex. minimum wage, driving age, drinking age, and much more. Also provide you with services like school, law enforcement, public tv/ radio, libraries, protection from foreign countries, and most important you're "unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." If you really don't feel like living....

[KingKongRules001]

under the US government than please leave this nation. Also like you said 'roads are build by states than do you believe states should be their own sovereign country? Meaning weak central government? Disaster in the pass clear showed us how a weak central government would lead to failure to society. Example, look at the Civil War, one of the main problem with the South is they wanted sovereign states and failed to cooperate to fight against the North and lost.

[ToxicOdiousOne]

@KingKongRules001 What about the 10th amendment and a return to states's rights? Why do we need a federal government?

[ichigodomo]

@ToxicOdiousOne haha social darwinism weeds out by natural selection? there is nothing natural about the selection in a political system. It may be valid that capitalism is a form social darwinism but you are mixing darwinian evolution with social darwinism, dangerous! they are completely different; darwinian evolution has no purpose,end, or reason- social darwinism has an ends in making circumstances in which many people will fail and the only people left are the most "fit" for that system.

[ButherLi55ett]

what use wud it be for everyone being a dentist u moron? egalitarianism isnt every one has same skills and does same work in society, for fuck sake. yu can shove ur 'natural laws' up your arse. caitalism hasn't been around forever and hopefully not too much longer, however what u think is agood idea is amore alienated, authoritarian and conservative society with little say or contol for workers (mostly all of us) - your ideas are terrible, but worse, they are repugnant.

[ToxicOdiousOne]

@ButherLi55ett Society is stratified and eveybody is compensated differently for different skills. There is a hierarcy. There is a chain of command. It's just how we humans have organized our power with rank and title.

Look at health or flat taxes. We must pay higher amounts because of smokers, drugies, fatties, illegals, etc . . . Could we afford a flat tax of $5000?

[ButherLi55ett]

@ToxicOdiousOne Yes, Monarchy, Feudalism, Parliamentary Democracy, Colonialism...all these things just sprang out of thin air...it is the way 'we' have organised...you could do with reading something about the history of class society, or the transition from feudalism to capitalism etc...can't be arsed to get into any other aspects cos I don't think you'll take much notice anyway.

[Eldeecue]

Fox News isn't smart enough to knowingly support social darwinism....which is..kinda sad given that social darwinism isn't that sound of an idea anymore.

It's more like "DA LIBERALS IZ EATIN' UP MAH PAYCHECK CUZ' PO' FOLKS!"

I am impressed to see Faux News dare to use the term Darwinism in a positive light..given the logically questionable beliefs of most of their viewership....well, the segment of their viewership that is watching them to get news.

[MuscleBeatsImport]

I support social-darwinism.

[geraldcaron]

When they say "Bail out" or give something for nothing, they mean to all those who work hard and try to save ( make a better future for themselves), need to PAY, through higher taxes or inflation.

Just realise that when Gov. give out money, they take it from someone else.

SO who pays for those Bailouts = Tax Payers (through taxes) and the Poor (through inflation).

When the middle class will be broke, and the poor desperate, only misery will be shared.,

[mordacis666]

i thought Fox were conservative-christian, not (the correct way of thinking) social-darwinism?

good thing!

[NoSelf1990]

I cannot believe how misinformed you are. They are making the argument that it is unfair to hard working families that pay their bills on time that people who were irresponsible with their money got bailed out BY people who live an honest life! Working hard and living within your means!

[kchomer1]

hey eyesonfox pay close attention to cnn and msnbc too

[kchomer1]

and get rid of the federal reserve or get rid of money all together

[Isochest]

The Fed: That's Israel's Bank, right. Britain and the US are pimped by Israel and those behind it. The lower income families usured by our politicians masters (Khazar and other Bankers)are "Fair Game". That's what Economic Darwinism is. They're feasting on others' money and getting off on it as ripping off people gives them a sexual thrill as well.

[realmusicyeah]

JBL :-D

[fomastephanovitch]

This clip is certainly not a big deal.

[Crisis7]

Business is Business. Those who cannot swim will sink and drown. No matter what era you are in the strong consume the weak. It is the most efficient way. Weak people drag down the group like a lead weight. You must remove that weak individual to proceed.

[MoaDib1966]

So if you were found inadequate to the standards set for what is considered strong; Would you freely concede to be sterilized or/and sent to "extermination camps"?

Think about it, you might not have what it takes :/

[blackwax10]

That individual is a person that bleeds. People like you are fucked up to other people. Its sad.

[Crisis7]

Hah! I doubt you have any value in society.

No one wants you, that's why you're so bitter.

You have no purpose or value.

Now disappear!

[Isochest]

Selfishness vs Altruism: The selfish have lots missing: it's for the Altruistic majority to stand against the fucked up entities. It's good these fuck ups are blind in certain areas. We need to stop being so socially arrogant and stop believing everyone thinks as we do. The Dark Side of Neurodiversity:-( Fucked up individuals like Psychopaths NEVER  submit to be sterilised or killed but instead do the sterilising and killing. Social Darwinism is Applied Psychopathy. Business is Business my Arse.

[lesssugar1]

the altruistic majority gets bent over a barrel by the selfish

[01jcgc]

fauck that lets start an anarchy!! thats real freedom!!

[Isochest]

Economic Darwinism like Social Darwinism is a predatory belief. It's got it's roots in Psychopathy and Narcissism. It's all about a pathological élite enslaving everyone else by debt and deception. Banks will give you a loan but never advertise their own stocks' dividends. You've got to ignore this bullsh*t and learn how to make money work for you, not work for money. There'd be less opportunities for these con men. Why dont they just broadcast Give us all your f**king money and F**k You All?!

[blackwax10]

Social Darwinism when mixed with religion is only a step away from Eugenics.

[CaptinsQuarters]

Ah yes. Always the debate and it doesn't matter what the issue is, it always comes down to more(libs) or less(cons) government. In this instance I would have to agree that more regulation is necessary to protect both the citizens and companies that find themselves in this horrible situation. It brings up questions as to how over inflated the US's GDP was the last 5 years with the housing market boom. Social Darwinism is not the way to run a society.

[pylet41]

yes social darwinism is the way to run a society because its the only way for people to learn. if u make a mistake ur on ur own and u have to deal with the consequences. everyone is fair game and we r all trying to make money but if ur behind on payments u shouldnt go cry for a bail out face it u fucked up!

[Isochest]

That makes you Fair Game, too, fuckwit! All predators have their blind spots. These Psychos can never learn.

[HyperSonic1987]

Yet despite that fact you'll hear Corporations screaming loud and clear that the Government shouldn't get involved. But when they're in trouble, they have no problem accepting Governmental help.

[HyperSonic1987]

And what of the companies that do the very same thing? Need I remind you that in this "free market", the government protects certain companies that happen to be in a rather identical situation to buyers who cannot afford a home.

Fanny May for example, had to be taken care of by the Government because the could no longer afford to keep their company afloat, and they were turned into governmentally owned Corporation again as opposed to private. How is that right according to the "free market"?

[Isochest]

Spot on Fannie's F**ked and Freddie's pink balloon has burst and the Government pays for their Antibiotics! :-)))))) Corporate Welfare Rules: Economic "Eugenics"??!!!

[HyperSonic1987]

As for that free market comment, not everyone is as careless as you make them out to be when they happen to buy a house that they can't afford. Believe it or not there are some companies that conceal certain details from the customer until they actually buy the house. I don't remember exactly what it is, but it turns their argument around in saying that people like that are nothing but a bunch of lazy worthless dullards.

[HyperSonic1987]

Of course they support it. Without it, those fuckers wouldn't be able to sit there and spew the bullshit that they present every day.

[generalnsj]

So...I'm supposed to foot the bill for some schmuck that refused to read their mortgage contract? What the hell happened to accountability in this country? No one wants to say, "You know what, I fucked up." In my opinion, admitting YOU made a mistake is quite a virtue.

[jfsimard79]

I'm sorry to say but I have to agree with Fox on this one. Those of us that bought a smaller house and are able to make our payments shouldn't be paying for the idiots that bought $300,000 homes.

[doofuss2]

LMAO!!

Responsible economics & capitalism equals "Social Darwinism"

???

What a mixed up word you live in 'eyesonfox'

.. or are you one of the dumbasses who reached beyond your means & borrowed money you couldn't repay?

Tosser

[Kroegerfanoforlando]

Yes it DOES = Social Darwinism! Does 'survival of the fittest' ring a bell? That's it in a nutshell.

[CrackerXZ]

And BTW they talk about economic NOT social darwinism.

[CrackerXZ]

If you want to give your money to these people just go ahead! But you can't force other people to do that!

[Scotchpker]

I think we should lynch them, damned commies!

I'm moving to africa atleast leader of the zulu admits hes a commie.

[thAchauffeur]

Come to Europe where people give a shit about each other.

[1984or2007]

Bullshit

[thAchauffeur]

No really, there's less poverty and more welfare.

[jinnmao]

I beleive in Social Darwinism. Seriously.

[AmbienceBlue]

OMG FOX ENDORSES (social) DARWINISM?! SEE! FAIR AND BALANCED!!

[TAFFTHC23456]

ynn after reading your comment i am asumming that you are a septic (yank).

how can you be so ignorant and claim that you enjoy freedom?

when you live in one of the worst police states on earth where the youth are forced to get high on meth because of your draconian hypcritical drug laws (look at panama cia 80s)

, where innocent juviniles are executed and your greatest choice as leader is the prophet and genius bush

do us all a favour vote obama

zeitgeist

zeitgeist

[macadoughshus]

Wow. You really look down on Americans don't you? I guess you think we're all the same over here huh? That allows you to paint with a broad brush? Must be nice to make such general statements about a whole country. Let me try one. All Limeys have bad teeth.........Your right....It does feel good. Let me try another one. British food sucks.......I kinda like this. Well, it was lots of fun generalizing whole countries with you. Maybe next time we can generalize the poor, or blacks.

[TAFFTHC23456]

fox news is completely right wing incorrect and very very naive.

but can you blame them?

i mean when your major consumer demographic are ignornat obese burger junkie pecker woods who are all brainwashed by cultists i.e "christian fundemenatists" and who ae so stupid they belived borat and voted in the texan prophet with an iq of 140 as president enjoy the 90 piece pop eyes and the meth pipe yank muppetts

[ynnyytty]

This time Fox really got it right. It has never happened before and probably never will, but I gotta say, they're right.

Why the hell should you pay your hard earned money, because I keep on making bad decisions?

Come on people. Just because Fox said it doesn't make it wrong all the time. I hate Fox, and I love Freedom. Don't steal my money because you maid a bad decision.

[elfbride]

Yepper. It's one thing to 'care about each other' and it's completely other to be a burden to your neighbors. If you make a bad financial decision, it's YOUR problem, not MINE. It's a FREE market. One person is free to buy a house they can't really afford and the next person is free to buy one they actually CAN pay for and one doesn't bail out the other. See how that works?

[SimplyBen84]

This is astonishing! HOw anyone can think that homelessness and poverty should be tolerated is Sickening! HAVE SOME COMPASSION FOR YOUR FELLOW MAN! A house is a basic of life. If your government cannot provide this I dont see why we shouldd allow them to exist! Whats the point of allowing people to tell you what do, take your money off you and not get anything in return. And now policing and fighting wars in foriegn lands is no justification enough. ITS SOULESS DEGENRATE SELFISHNESS.

[NikitaLion]

Bomb the shit outta fox news and hang all survivers, please.

[TitaniumDragon]

This isn't advocation of social darwinism.

[tobyw87]

"The cost of freedom." - American style.

Raping third world countries.

[Nekkrim120]

If you don't want to be associated with America, do it a favor and get the hell out. Go to Iran and live under a REAL dictatorship for a while. Maybe you'll see Bush in a different light.

Fucking communist.

[TitaniumDragon]

Bush is no better, he just has less power.

[ynnyytty]

Actually he has more power than most "dictators" we see and hear about in the news.

[TitaniumDragon]

He has more power in one sense, but less in another; he has more power in terms of actual might, but a lot less power in controlling individual people, as his power, while massive, is not focusable on individuals in his own country, or really even in general.

[shrubhuntertran13579]

Just because a United States citizen disagrees with certain American policies does not mean that he should leave the country. This country was founded on the basis of freedom of speech, thus deeming the right to protest pro-American and constitutional. "tobyw87," is actually behaving more American than you are, "Nekkrim120." Your mentality of "either you're with us or against us" is a primitive, anti-American ideology.

[Psalm23YHVH]

AMEN spot on !!!

Amen

[framecut]

Fox got it right.

[Jimmyophoney]

im gonna go kill some rich ppl cos that's survival of the fittest

[InfoJunkieHolland]

"the cost of freedom"

freedom is free you fucking fascists!

[Vence333]

Darwinisme => social Darwinisme => Eugenics

The rich if fitter to survive than the poor in case of world food crisis or other , if u ok with that don t complain :^) when it happen , it s the Evolution theory , to be proven they need to come up with the link between the primate and the human beeing they failed to do so for the last 50 year even tho they want so bad that they ll invent missing links ...

[InfoJunkieHolland]

watch?v=De-OkzTUDVA

be amazed.

[MythosRuler]

The reason for for using tax dollars for helping people who are defaulting on their loans is because doing so benefits everyone, not just those who are being helped. These douchebags on Fox are millionaires trying to tell us "too bad so sad, my buddy banker swindled you, you're a sucker."

[helios5868]

What else does FOX news actually do?

[Kingarthur305]

Social Darwinism is natural

[vforvoltaire]

That's right, only bail out the rich people.

[dechha1981]

That doesn't sound quite like Social Darwinism to me, "Fuck 'em, they're poor", yes, but not Social Darwinism (unless my understanding of Social Darwinism is way of, which is actually entirely possible). Social Darwinism is actually much worse, This is basically Caveat emptor.

[rOaCh2000]

omg social darwinism

fox you've sunk to a new low

[Giuseppe00XA]

These are business mavens what attitude do you expect them to take?! Besides,the compassionate point of view was articulated by two of the commentators. nThis jihad against Fox is BS. You want news slanted a little right, watch Fox, a little left watch MSNBC. What's the problem with one news outlet out of the whole bunch being conservative? Progreswsives can certainly take the heat. I'm no conservative, either. Anything but.

[rOaCh2000]

because the NEWS is slanted towards the right. and fox is much more popular than msnbc

[dechha1981]

News shouldn't be slated EITHER way. That's Editorializing. Fox News also has terrible interviews, because everyone's always talking over everyone else.

[RustyShacklefuurd]

the thing is its not a slanted a little right. be realistic its propaganda not a news outlet..all the american mass media is

[clinds]

Well, looking at it, the larger issue with the actual question of the loans is that not everyone understands the idea that adjustable means it can get better, but it can turn worse and put a knife in your back. If anything, we need to knowledge people about this, though they might not listen since they may want a bigger house.

[Whoo69]

To cut through the BS for a moment, budget deficits (at least in the federal gov't) don't make much difference in the long term. You ask any economist, and he'll tell you it doesn't really hurt our economic status for gov't to overspend, and it would be more detrimental to underspend by a lot. Of course, this doesn't negate the imperative to balance budgets, but all the fearmongering of deficits and national debt is getting us nowhere and makes us irrational.

[Whoo69]

As long as we can find a way to fund our spending, at least temporarily we'll be ok. As much as I hate to admit it, the free traders really are right when it comes to trade deficits. A trade deficit in and of itself is not a bad thing; it's the side effects that go along with it like outsourcing and plants closing down and cities being devastated by mass unemployment that make things worse.

[Whoo69]

I think what's kinda funny is that Americans, unlike everyone else, has this really selfish, egotistical view of tax spending. Libertarians and certain capitalists will say "taxes should be lower for me because I'm against the welfare state", and others will say "I shouldn't have to pay for abortions" even though taxes are collected altogether, and your portion of the tax revenue is very small compared to the amount of a certain program.

[il128]

This about bailing out the lenders not the borrowers.

Funny how they paint this as a bail out for the borrowers when it isn't about the borrowers at all.

[1gregmichael]

Pure tabloid trash, Fox News is.

[sprfreak486]

i love eyesonfox... im 17 and am very interested in politics and i hate fox news... they represent everything wrong with the capitalist neo-con agenda... in this situation, they should bail these people out... THEY ARE ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR HOMES FOR GOD'S SAKE

[MsLogician]

What has this got to do with social Darwinism? They were talking economics here, not about social issues - if you didn't notice, they're two entirely different words with different meanings.

[eyesonfox]

There's a bit of truth in what you say. Social Darwinism is a more expansive term but what you're ignoring is most of its theories deal with economic competition so Economic Darwinism is closely associated, if not synonymous.

[MsLogician]

I don't consider it the same thing at all.

An example of Economic Darwinism is companies trying to sell the most product for the most amount of money and competing with other companies to attract and hold the most consumers and competing for workers. This brings prosperity.

Social Darwinism, on the other hand, brings with it all kinds of destructive behaviour and has led to Nazi eugenics.

[eyesonfox]

Things may very well have changed since I got my MBA in the '80s but the old "maximization of profits" model was being downplayed because it leads to social irresponsibility.

[allocater]

So what do they think is the purpose of taxes and spending anyway if not to take money from the rich and give it to the poor, like Robin Hood? :-D