@TechShow101 youre stupidasfuck mate spe and ppe is the only difference i use ibm.com for my fats thank you ibm made both thy tell you what it can do not microsfts twitter
difference between both is that one doesnt over heat and reak every day and thT ONe can do 100 gigaflops while the other can only do 31
Not to sound like a fanboy, but I'm sure the Xbox 360 CPU has the power to pull that off. After all, each channel/video is only being played at 240x180. The biggest difference between 360's CPU and the Cell is that the Cell runs with 8 cores while the 360 runs with 3. More cores doesn't always mean more powerful, it just means that it (if used properly), can be more efficient. It's a two-sided road, really. It's about the distribution of power. Three moderately strong cores vs. eight weak ones?
@thphaca no it doesnt on a similar test by ibm they showed that xenon ibm pocessor is ound 2.33times less powerful
ps3 runs on 7 spe cores compared to xboxs
3 ppe cores which both runn at 3.2 ghz which mens the xbox is similar to intels i5 models and ps3 is more powerful than intels i5 chips (oly in gming) but in ram they are both actuall god because you do not require huge ass ram to run games or tv channels or software only software llike windows which is why computers need it ps3s l1 cache
@iamgig9876 They both run at 3.2ghz total speed, so performance is dependent upon the programming of the sotware; it's a hit or miss. 8 SIMDs CAN perhaps be more effiecient if any developer bothers to accomidate, but it's real-world results that we care about. Look at the review for AMD's Zacate APU in comparison to the intel competitor. Using the latest drivers on both, AMD blew away Intel, but through troublesome driver tweaks, they would roughly even out.. Which result counts more?
@thphaca the cell runs 178.2 billion flops on ps3 2x faster than on xbox 360 at single precision at double precision it is equal to the xbox 360 at single precision at double presciion on xbox 360 procesor (xenon) is inferior to cell so better ower now ps3 has faster and more poweful ram and others
@iamgig9876 A processor isn't made of FLOPS performance only. Xenon still has a much higher integer performance and twice as much cache compared to Cell. Which is better will depend on the specific needs of each software you're running.
@TechShow101 the xbox is not more powerful you are stupid man it's been proven quite a while ago that the Cell is more powerful than it's CPU and look at some of the games on ps3 where xbox can't even touch in terms of graphics
I'll add one more little bit of my opinion here. I think the next generation of consoles(Ps4,Xbox720 etc) are going to be absolutely brillant. The obviously are going to have to find ways to drastically improve both consoles. I'm sure the GPU's in both will be drastically improved too. We shall see in due time indeed.
(Continued from my last post) The Xbox 360's maximum graphic's and CPU potential have already been met. It is at it's limit. The xbox 360 isn't a "BAD" console at all. It has it's ups and downs just like anything else. I would personally have to pick the "Ps3" for the overall winner though..thats just my personal opinion.
(continued of my last post) If you want to compare consoles to other consoles it is my belief that the Sony Playstation 3 is the best one to date. However more developers code games for the Xbox 360 because it is easyer to do. Coding games for the Ps3 can be a difficult task. I think it's a fair thing to say that the Ps3 is far more complicated than the "Xbox360" is. The Ps3's full cpu potential has not yet been met. I think there is only one game to date that utilizes 90% of the CPU's power.
Pc is always going to be better than any console out there. One reason is because pc's are far more upgradable than a console. It is possible for a Pc to be "Not as good" as a Ps3 in the gaming aspect of things..but chances are that computer isnt' a gaming rig.
The CELL Chip was axed by IBM because they are now designing new chips with the same tarchitecture of the CELL. So no it isnt crap, they just want to redesign it with newer technology.
@gamepro127onPSN Not start an argument. However "SUPER" powerful is overly exaggerating the cells power, by a hell of a lot. It's far from powerful anymore. Maybe 3-4 years ago. But yeah.
"dude your a dumbass cause you dont how shit works in killzone compared to halo vehicle physics existed in gta 3 killzne has vehiclles but it maintains futuristic space fight through clooaking and other shit"
At some point in life, hopefully, you'll arrive at a revelation. It's preferable to not follow the remark "You're a dumbass", with a statement so painfully retarded and ill-formed that it induces tumors.
@Hzqi What the fuck are you on about, Uncharted 2 and 3 as well as Killzone 2 and 3, are perfect examples of just how powerfull the ps3 is. Of course you xbox fan boys dont know any thing about these as M$ have brainwashed all of you.
No they aren't. They're perfect examples of how the console hasn't defined itself as being spectacularly in excess of the 360's capabilities. On paper, there's plenty of hypothetical segments in the pipline, and it's overall floating point capacity does exceed. But in practice it's edge isn't as clearly defined as SONY would like it to be.
Even the Gears of War games rained a bit on the Killzone party.
@Hzqi MLAA>MSAA your opinion is unarguably biased my opinion is based on fact ps3>xbox 360 halo, gow(waait its on pc) suck why? metacritic rated Uncharted and Metal Gear Better NO not by user by both critic an user so did gow(the real one) so did heavy rain so did GT5(but only on playr opinion becausse critics were bribed obviously because PS3 has better user ratings xbox well yeah ign gamespot and g4 said the ps3 is better
You assert that my remarks are "unarguably biased", then don't address them, let alone refute them. hen you meander off onto some diatribe of a testimonial basis in a dire attempt to "prove" subjective notions I never noted anything about.
How about I draw you a map. You could start with some demonstrable showcase, of the PLAYSTATION 3 IN PRACTICE being "SPECTACULARLY IN EXCESS" of the XBOX 360.
As an aside: With the considerable excellence of MGS4 aside, do you know how weighted that list is by dismally fawning Playstation centric publications? There's a handful of mags in print, that have any sense of weight to the sliding scale in rankings. And/or manage a degree of disciplined reflection before jizzing on their keyboards at the first smell of killer-app on their publication's namesake.
Playstation, XBOX and Wii based magazines are ALL canine-excretia.
@Hzqi ign actually loves the xbox so does gamespot they aid ps3 is beter but they ikexbx 360 more i know you are trying to talk i meaningful english which s compllex in order to sound mart but let me tell you im not from an enlis seaking country fuc you
You are full of failURE if you think MGS4 is the best looking game of all time. And it's only more embarassing with Uncharted 2 on the list (though it is impressive). In fact MGS4 and Killzone have the odd effect of highlighting the idiosyncratic look that has now spread between PS2 AND 3. Killzone achieves a certain amount of chromatic grit. But it's decidedly lacking in active dynamic in the in-game engine. Even HALO Reach, new though it is, is far more technically nimble.
And by "best looking" it might help if you applied some criteria, because MGS4 comes alive most in it's cut scenes. Don't they all? This is more down to coding deficiency, but multi-format games don't help the cause, either. The rather ordinary Black Ops actually looks better, on 360.
And if you are referring to real-time sophistication, it would help if you narrow it to console. Because the Unreal Engine 3, Carmack and Crysis engines wipe out console rendering.
One of the best examples I've seen work to define the console has come from a predictable source. Polyphony. The exquisiteness of the rendering in GT5 is positively gorgeous. It's a sleek beast, but I'm more concerned with the calibre and sophistication of the rendering work. Killzone is well measured and applied. But from outside it's screens of dense activity and clutter, it's overestimated. The polygons are low-tech compared REACH.
I was going to leave it there, but thought I'd spare another point. It's interesting the way companies "pitch" the graphics in their engines. Games like Call of Duty and Killzone maximize superficial effect as much as possible. In this sense the effectively seduce the casual observer. And really, it's all they need to do. BUNGIE are a bit nutty, because an initial glance at their rendering, can fail to convey just how advanced it is. Which is where the theatre mode becomes mana.
Don't think for a second I'm drawing a comparison between CoD and Killzone, either. Killzone is a better looking game (at half the frame rate). Just a comparison between engine priorities. It's even impressive today, that Killzone looks the way it does, and still manages a bit of destruction effect. The load that HALO is bearing to produce widely very broad and complex physics and vehicular interaction work. And still produce it's overlooked polygonal extragance, is no lesser.
Crysis has Rag-doll physics the same place that HALO has rag-doll physics. For animating the fate of lifeless bodies. This comes back to those things that are "in" BUNGIEs games that are often overlooked. Have you ever paused theatre, and seen the detail on a rocket sailing through the air? And then watch it's CONSTANTLY CALCULATED force, react to a nearby explosion and deflect? Sometimes into a large or small spiral pattern, hurling itself aroudn and off course?
Only to slam into a box next to a parking cone, and as the box goes flying, the cone does too. Into a power-core which is knocked over, and rolls over a few bumps down a hill. And drops off a ledge, blowing up next to a Hog that happens by and gets blown around, while it's carrying three independent players. But while the force is lifting and twisting it's body, the wheels are clawing for traction in the turf.
Yes, CRYSIS is godly. HALO = Basic rag-doll? Try again.
An interesting demostrative effect of seperate forces that you can achieve with Rockets is to do a lock-on (HALO 2 or REACH, not 3) and to throw the Rocket to one side. If you get the balance right, the force of the heat-seeking neutralizes against the propulsion of the rocket, and it just keeps circling the vehicle.
One thing that really sets off the physics in CryEngine is the interaction with destruction. Mousetraps FTW!
Make you a deal. If you can point out the part where I said the XBOX 360 is A) More powerful. B) A better console. or C) Microsoft cock tastes like pumpkin pie, I'll give you a cookie with fairy sprinkles on it.
You could start by wiping the foam off your chin and formulating intelligible sentences. I'm all too aware of the performance comparatives on theoretical paperwork. These games have been played by makers since the dawn. The calibre of pixels on-screen brushes all aside.
@Hzqi dude your a dumbass cause you dont how shit works in killzone compared to halo vehicle physics existed in gta 3 killzne has vehiclles but it maintains futuristic space fight through clooaking and other shit
Isn't the "CELL BROADBAND PROCESSOR" a special purpose processor? The PS3 exclusives blows X360 out the water. If you disagree, you're obviously a lying fanboy or straight blind/retarded.
The PS3 is more powerful, but I find the UI on the 360 superior, That's it though, PS3 wins everything else. Well, PC is superior to all, but as far as game consoles go, PS3 wins. xD
I disagree. Experts agree a good UI would be one that is easy to use so all can use it with ease and the XMB does a better job of that. X360 UI has too many tabs, buttons and panes. Plus the SONY xmb is more graphically sharper.
@hjustin1993 ok fasterloading time if u spend like LOTS of money for a cpu and for better graphics u need a graphic card ( expensive ) and free games are hard to find without completing stupid surveys or getting a virus an dps3 has free multiplayer. the only reason it is free because nothing else is . and wiht the game system u can play all the games that game out for the pc without costing an arm
god i hate these idiots, the reason they wont put it in a pc is because they will have to give rights to intel as there there the only ones who can afford to buy it as it costs something like 500 million to buy the copyright
but then IBM will loose money but they only sell the technology to server users and businesses, WHAT ABOUT ORDINARY PEOPLE?
It's not even that...If the Cell were to be put onto a PC (assuming it's for Windows) it just wouldn't work because of it's architecture not being x86. It might possibly run but it would be completely unusable.
Another thing it is terrible at general computing it's only good at floating point, so why bother making it compatible with major operating systems when it's not as good as standard Intel/AMD processors.
It can only do floating point efficiently, it's very good at floating point but if your talking about general purpose calculations, any mordern Intel CPU will drawf the cell.
Need I remind you that the cell has a total of 250M trasistors and a Wolfdale has 850M.
If it was put in a PC, it would not work.
If it was to be used with normal software, it would not work.
If it was to be compared in terms of x86 performance, it would do terribly.
Wolfdale also has 3 - 6MB of cache as part of that transistor count.
Cell does have a PowerPC unit aswell, so 'normal' software can run, albeit a bit slowly, but that wasn't its purpose, just like desktop chips aren't designed to perform raw computations like Cell is.
Yeah that's true, but the thing is when it's being used for gaming uses most developers arn't using it graphically at all because it's far to difficult to balance between the RSX.
But to be honest if you were going to be using it for primarily for a GPU it wouldn't stand up to something like a GTX 280 or something anyway.
it is the xbox triple core produces 115GFLOPS and the cell produces 200GFLPOS remember 2 cores are used in the xbox and 7 in the ps3 the cell should be 3.5 times better but its not even twice that plus in gaming its about the gpu not cpu and i have a ps3 by the way not a xbox so the xbox is half the price and u cant tell the difference on multiplartform games mt psn is Rodaz220 if u think i dont have a ps3 sony should have got a cheaper cpu and put 2 gpus that would show xbox whos boss
You're an idiot, i played X360 exclusives and PS3 exclusives and if the x360 is so better it would of showed through in their flagship exclusives. Their exclusives suck dick. I see all these vs. videos where the creator would put the best parts of x360 exclusives in with the slower parts of PS3 exclusives just so the can look like they're on par. But if you play each game all the way through you can see thru the fanboys bullshit manipulation.
haha how am i a idiot? wen did i say xbox exclusives are better plz read my last comment again dumb ass and my psn is Rodaz440 got the numbers mixed up
Their exclusives does suck dick. I'm a fan boy because after an unbiased comparison I concluded that X360 exclusives suck in comparison to PS3 exclusives. What do you look for when you make comparisons? Wether it's from SONY or Microsoft or what the game really comprise of. So who's the FANBOY?
What Iwillkillyou35 means is the PS3 will be outdated by 2012, we won't be seeing the last of it for another 10 years or so, but there will most likley be a new generation of consoles released by then. Exact same situation as the PS2.
try 2015 they wont make a new console unless if something changes like we got hd tv thats y we saw new the xbox 360 and ps3 plus sony is losing money right now so they will try to change that b4 making a new systerm
haha that is not true at all. I give it until 2012 at most. By 2011 I bet the "ps4" will be available.
I am not saying that the Cell is not good enough to last that long, (although it probably is not) the ps3's GPU is not near good enough to last for ten years.
The next micorsoft system will be coming out around 2011 and it will destroy the ps3, so sony will be forced to do something. Nintendo as well could be good.
The PC even now destroys the ps3 which shows that improvement is possible.
I agree 100% with that. but the next gen will come out same as it has now in regards to the ps2. They will stop selling the ps2, still sell the ps3 and release the "ps4"
But ps3 hasnt even reached its full potential yet...KIllzone 2 which has the best graphics out of all the CONSOLE games only used 60% of ps3's spu..So imagine a game that used like 90% of the ps3s power :D
lol, I just realized at the hilarity at 1:10! We have finally found a way to watch multiple channels on tv before the year 2015. Remember the part in Back to the Future part II where Marty's son is watching multiple channels on the family's tv! We dit it before the year that the movie predicted! By the way all you people who take things too seriously, I know that this has nothing to do with the movie, I was just making a joke!
unfortunetaly!!!!! most dvd/blue ray players,and tv sets does,nt have a real upscaler but instead it simply resize the image, aswell this is not a problem if the pal/ntsc signal contains a coded signal for hich-res lcd/plasma screen,however if,s the pal/ntsc is not coded for hich-res tv,s , simply resizing couses a blocky picture,thus non coded signals requires a true upscaler!!!!
PS3 and xbox 360 have the same amount of total RAM. PS3 has 256 MB for the graphics RAM and 256 MB for the system RAM. 256 MB + 256 Mb = 512 MB. PS3's RAM is faster than Xbox 360's RAM. Xbox 360 has 512 MB of RAM that is shared by the GPU and the CPU.
to bad you cant use the RSX ram in linux because that would be very usefull. as for RLhubner the ps3 has 512mb but only 256 can be used in linux the RSX(graphics) ram is only for games i dont even think the XMB(UI) uses the RSX memory due to cross board speeds being quite slow. in the PS3 the cell is used to playback all video and applications. so the music photo and video even blu-ray are all played back using the CELL the RSX again is ONLY used for games and thats why its not available i linux
i was in chemistry class and we were learning about cells and technology and that in the future the cell processor will be the stock processor in all computers and it will be like 50x to 100x better than the processors we have now
i wish you could channel cable through the ps3 and use it to enhance the picture quality of SD cable... that would be awesome, unfortunately ps3 doesnt have the right connectors.
This is exciting news, because Cell processor have the abilities to link up with other Cell processor and work together. So it is possible for Toshiba to build the TV to allow PS3 to "pool" resources from the Cell inside the TV. Maybe through a extension device? It be interesting to see what they do.
ehh, no, unless they came out with some kind of updated port or a new model of PS3 because HDMI can only transfer Audio and video, and even if it had auxiliary wires in it, it would not make sense to transfer data of that magnitude over a distance of 10+ ft. i mean, great concept n all, but no cigar. when they say they work together, they are referring to the co-processors inside the single chip itself.
maby to show off if they use the ps3 ethernet and put one on tv a 1gb card like on ps3 then make the software on the tv so it will b like remont play then send half ray traceing to tv could work anyone???
Actually that "Link up" ability is something they want to work on in future cell chips... The one in the PS3 right now does not have that ability.. It could be in the PS4 though...
What's sad is Sony gets shit on for future-proofing their PS3, and MS gets nothing but damn near universal praise for what amounts to Xbox 1.5. Not only is Sony having the last laugh with HD-DVD getting the middle finger from Warner Bros, and BR profile 2.0 coming out, the PS3 is gonna get the last laugh, as the best BR player for under $400 and getting cheaper, for quite some time.
I got ducktape an old TV i just need to get a Cell processor.
Screwdriver1991 4 months ago
@TechShow101 youre stupidasfuck mate spe and ppe is the only difference i use ibm.com for my fats thank you ibm made both thy tell you what it can do not microsfts twitter
difference between both is that one doesnt over heat and reak every day and thT ONe can do 100 gigaflops while the other can only do 31
iamgig9876 6 months ago
continuing my other comment l1 cache s 512 kb and l2 is 1
mb xenon is laughable compared to that
iamgig9876 6 months ago
What does this cost?
TVperson1 8 months ago
@TVperson1 139.99 for the processor
iamgig9876 6 months ago
@iamgig9876 And the tv?
TVperson1 6 months ago
@TVperson1 its probably overpriced
iamgig9876 6 months ago
Not to sound like a fanboy, but I'm sure the Xbox 360 CPU has the power to pull that off. After all, each channel/video is only being played at 240x180. The biggest difference between 360's CPU and the Cell is that the Cell runs with 8 cores while the 360 runs with 3. More cores doesn't always mean more powerful, it just means that it (if used properly), can be more efficient. It's a two-sided road, really. It's about the distribution of power. Three moderately strong cores vs. eight weak ones?
thphaca 11 months ago
@thphaca The SPEs and PPE core run at 3.2 GHz on PS3, same as the 360s processor. Not weak, just requires more skill to take advantage of.
MrMike3292 11 months ago
@thphaca Cell has one core and eight SIMD units, not eight cores.
NewLynxChannel 11 months ago
@NewLynxChannel Synthetic processor elements which are about 1.2 superior t one "core"
iamgig9876 6 months ago
@thphaca no it doesnt on a similar test by ibm they showed that xenon ibm pocessor is ound 2.33times less powerful
ps3 runs on 7 spe cores compared to xboxs
3 ppe cores which both runn at 3.2 ghz which mens the xbox is similar to intels i5 models and ps3 is more powerful than intels i5 chips (oly in gming) but in ram they are both actuall god because you do not require huge ass ram to run games or tv channels or software only software llike windows which is why computers need it ps3s l1 cache
iamgig9876 6 months ago
@iamgig9876 They both run at 3.2ghz total speed, so performance is dependent upon the programming of the sotware; it's a hit or miss. 8 SIMDs CAN perhaps be more effiecient if any developer bothers to accomidate, but it's real-world results that we care about. Look at the review for AMD's Zacate APU in comparison to the intel competitor. Using the latest drivers on both, AMD blew away Intel, but through troublesome driver tweaks, they would roughly even out.. Which result counts more?
thphaca 6 months ago
@thphaca the cell runs 178.2 billion flops on ps3 2x faster than on xbox 360 at single precision at double precision it is equal to the xbox 360 at single precision at double presciion on xbox 360 procesor (xenon) is inferior to cell so better ower now ps3 has faster and more poweful ram and others
iamgig9876 6 months ago
@iamgig9876 A processor isn't made of FLOPS performance only. Xenon still has a much higher integer performance and twice as much cache compared to Cell. Which is better will depend on the specific needs of each software you're running.
NewLynxS 6 months ago
looks so shit
impIosive 1 year ago
Thumbs up if you wish this video was HD :l
Tysonography 1 year ago 2
now all u need is a video card and play some call of duty without any consoles
quangluu96 1 year ago
If the Cell is this powerful, what would pc gaming with this chip be like?
lifelovingdude23 1 year ago
@lifelovingdude23 not possible to put a chip like this in a pc, its not a x86 architecture.
TheCompyshop 1 year ago
realtime bi-cubic filtering woooo! (unenthusiastic) lol
prankmypants 1 year ago
48 channels of porn!!!!!!!!!
learber 1 year ago 6
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mathhenr 1 year ago
@TechShow101 Ahahahahahaha Ahahahahahaha!
Good joke!
hansihe 1 year ago
@TechShow101 the xbox is not more powerful you are stupid man it's been proven quite a while ago that the Cell is more powerful than it's CPU and look at some of the games on ps3 where xbox can't even touch in terms of graphics
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machinima2225 1 year ago
But youll need a fan inside that TV
ramentasteawesome 2 years ago
STI-Sony,Toshiba,IBM
TOSHIBA CAN USE THE CELL BECUASE THEY HELPED TO MAKE IT SO STFU FANBOY FAG
cwis01 2 years ago 4
I'll add one more little bit of my opinion here. I think the next generation of consoles(Ps4,Xbox720 etc) are going to be absolutely brillant. The obviously are going to have to find ways to drastically improve both consoles. I'm sure the GPU's in both will be drastically improved too. We shall see in due time indeed.
codeman580 2 years ago 3
@codeman580 LMAO the CPU and GPU in consoles REALLY needs a makeover
Viper254 1 year ago
(Continued from my last post) The Xbox 360's maximum graphic's and CPU potential have already been met. It is at it's limit. The xbox 360 isn't a "BAD" console at all. It has it's ups and downs just like anything else. I would personally have to pick the "Ps3" for the overall winner though..thats just my personal opinion.
codeman580 2 years ago 5
(continued of my last post) If you want to compare consoles to other consoles it is my belief that the Sony Playstation 3 is the best one to date. However more developers code games for the Xbox 360 because it is easyer to do. Coding games for the Ps3 can be a difficult task. I think it's a fair thing to say that the Ps3 is far more complicated than the "Xbox360" is. The Ps3's full cpu potential has not yet been met. I think there is only one game to date that utilizes 90% of the CPU's power.
codeman580 2 years ago 4
Pc is always going to be better than any console out there. One reason is because pc's are far more upgradable than a console. It is possible for a Pc to be "Not as good" as a Ps3 in the gaming aspect of things..but chances are that computer isnt' a gaming rig.
codeman580 2 years ago 4
You guys cant compare gaming consoles to pc's
A good Pc will be superior because the technology is always getting better...
A console such as the Ps3 (which i own) will have to wait until the next generation to come out while the Pc can always upgrade to the latest tech
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CELL just got axed by IBM, thats how crappy it was
DoCWaSaBe 2 years ago
what the fuck do you mean "axed" be more pacific
some poeple still say xbox 360 is better(get a fuking life fanboys)
9eminem11 2 years ago 9
The CELL Chip was axed by IBM because they are now designing new chips with the same tarchitecture of the CELL. So no it isnt crap, they just want to redesign it with newer technology.
IP1NKYI 2 years ago 11
No Back to the Future voice recognition?
Awsomostmaximum 2 years ago
HOLY SHIT The ps3 is SUPER powerful wow lol 48 channels at once.
gamepro127onPSN 2 years ago 34
@gamepro127onPSN Not start an argument. However "SUPER" powerful is overly exaggerating the cells power, by a hell of a lot. It's far from powerful anymore. Maybe 3-4 years ago. But yeah.
BigdogWitBigdog 1 year ago
And some people say that the playstation 3 is not more powerful than the xbox 360.
andyswVids 2 years ago 40
LOL SO TRUE
9eminem11 2 years ago
@andyswVids It's alot closer when you consider that there are also the GPU limitations to consider.
Protoking 1 year ago
@andyswVids LOL u can play some games on that TV ^^
quangluu96 1 year ago
@andyswVids
It might help if they'd do something to prove it. The proof is in how games look. And the PS3 has failed to achieve any truly notable graphics edge.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Hzqi WTF????? Have you heard of Uncharted 1,2,3 Killzone 2,3,Dog are you BLIND?
Supramna92557 1 year ago 2
@Supramna92557 hes blind and robably a drunk kangaroo molester
iamgig9876 6 months ago
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"dude your a dumbass cause you dont how shit works in killzone compared to halo vehicle physics existed in gta 3 killzne has vehiclles but it maintains futuristic space fight through clooaking and other shit"
At some point in life, hopefully, you'll arrive at a revelation. It's preferable to not follow the remark "You're a dumbass", with a statement so painfully retarded and ill-formed that it induces tumors.
Hzqi 6 months ago
@Hzqi What the fuck are you on about, Uncharted 2 and 3 as well as Killzone 2 and 3, are perfect examples of just how powerfull the ps3 is. Of course you xbox fan boys dont know any thing about these as M$ have brainwashed all of you.
Craftiii4 1 year ago
@Craftiii4
No they aren't. They're perfect examples of how the console hasn't defined itself as being spectacularly in excess of the 360's capabilities. On paper, there's plenty of hypothetical segments in the pipline, and it's overall floating point capacity does exceed. But in practice it's edge isn't as clearly defined as SONY would like it to be.
Even the Gears of War games rained a bit on the Killzone party.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Hzqi Wow, i was right M$ have brain washed you.
Craftiii4 1 year ago
@Craftiii4
You have nothing useful to say then. Very profound to use a moronic ad-hominem.
The only (ugh) "fanboy" dribbling shit, is you. I've shown prejudice to nothing but the truth and the facts.
If MS had never bought BUNGIE, I might just as easily be talking about an APPLE format. Way to fail clown.
Hzqi 1 year ago
iamgig9876 6 months ago
@iamgig9876
The cumulative sum of your statement is idiotic.
You assert that my remarks are "unarguably biased", then don't address them, let alone refute them. hen you meander off onto some diatribe of a testimonial basis in a dire attempt to "prove" subjective notions I never noted anything about.
How about I draw you a map. You could start with some demonstrable showcase, of the PLAYSTATION 3 IN PRACTICE being "SPECTACULARLY IN EXCESS" of the XBOX 360.
Hzqi 6 months ago
@iamgig9876
As an aside: With the considerable excellence of MGS4 aside, do you know how weighted that list is by dismally fawning Playstation centric publications? There's a handful of mags in print, that have any sense of weight to the sliding scale in rankings. And/or manage a degree of disciplined reflection before jizzing on their keyboards at the first smell of killer-app on their publication's namesake.
Playstation, XBOX and Wii based magazines are ALL canine-excretia.
Hzqi 6 months ago
@Hzqi ign actually loves the xbox so does gamespot they aid ps3 is beter but they ikexbx 360 more i know you are trying to talk i meaningful english which s compllex in order to sound mart but let me tell you im not from an enlis seaking country fuc you
iamgig9876 6 months ago
@Hzqi LMFAO ever heard of MGS4 (best looking game at the time), succeeded by KillZone 2, and then Uncharted 2. You sir, are full of fail.
ImAllFact 1 year ago
@ImAllFact
You are full of failURE if you think MGS4 is the best looking game of all time. And it's only more embarassing with Uncharted 2 on the list (though it is impressive). In fact MGS4 and Killzone have the odd effect of highlighting the idiosyncratic look that has now spread between PS2 AND 3. Killzone achieves a certain amount of chromatic grit. But it's decidedly lacking in active dynamic in the in-game engine. Even HALO Reach, new though it is, is far more technically nimble.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Hzqi tl;dr
ImAllFact 1 year ago
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Craftiii4 1 year ago
@Hzqi are you fucking stupid
iamgig9876 6 months ago
@ImAllFact
And by "best looking" it might help if you applied some criteria, because MGS4 comes alive most in it's cut scenes. Don't they all? This is more down to coding deficiency, but multi-format games don't help the cause, either. The rather ordinary Black Ops actually looks better, on 360.
And if you are referring to real-time sophistication, it would help if you narrow it to console. Because the Unreal Engine 3, Carmack and Crysis engines wipe out console rendering.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@ImAllFact
One of the best examples I've seen work to define the console has come from a predictable source. Polyphony. The exquisiteness of the rendering in GT5 is positively gorgeous. It's a sleek beast, but I'm more concerned with the calibre and sophistication of the rendering work. Killzone is well measured and applied. But from outside it's screens of dense activity and clutter, it's overestimated. The polygons are low-tech compared REACH.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@ImAllFact
I was going to leave it there, but thought I'd spare another point. It's interesting the way companies "pitch" the graphics in their engines. Games like Call of Duty and Killzone maximize superficial effect as much as possible. In this sense the effectively seduce the casual observer. And really, it's all they need to do. BUNGIE are a bit nutty, because an initial glance at their rendering, can fail to convey just how advanced it is. Which is where the theatre mode becomes mana.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@ImAllFact
Don't think for a second I'm drawing a comparison between CoD and Killzone, either. Killzone is a better looking game (at half the frame rate). Just a comparison between engine priorities. It's even impressive today, that Killzone looks the way it does, and still manages a bit of destruction effect. The load that HALO is bearing to produce widely very broad and complex physics and vehicular interaction work. And still produce it's overlooked polygonal extragance, is no lesser.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Hzqi "very broad and complex physics"
nonono.... CRYSIS had very broad and complex physics... halo has basic ragdoll physics
colony665 1 year ago
@colony665
Crysis has Rag-doll physics the same place that HALO has rag-doll physics. For animating the fate of lifeless bodies. This comes back to those things that are "in" BUNGIEs games that are often overlooked. Have you ever paused theatre, and seen the detail on a rocket sailing through the air? And then watch it's CONSTANTLY CALCULATED force, react to a nearby explosion and deflect? Sometimes into a large or small spiral pattern, hurling itself aroudn and off course?
Hzqi 1 year ago
@colony665
Only to slam into a box next to a parking cone, and as the box goes flying, the cone does too. Into a power-core which is knocked over, and rolls over a few bumps down a hill. And drops off a ledge, blowing up next to a Hog that happens by and gets blown around, while it's carrying three independent players. But while the force is lifting and twisting it's body, the wheels are clawing for traction in the turf.
Yes, CRYSIS is godly. HALO = Basic rag-doll? Try again.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@colony665
An interesting demostrative effect of seperate forces that you can achieve with Rockets is to do a lock-on (HALO 2 or REACH, not 3) and to throw the Rocket to one side. If you get the balance right, the force of the heat-seeking neutralizes against the propulsion of the rocket, and it just keeps circling the vehicle.
One thing that really sets off the physics in CryEngine is the interaction with destruction. Mousetraps FTW!
Hzqi 1 year ago
@Hzqi engine wise ps3can run halo but xbox 360 cant run uncharted god of war heavy rain or killzone
for many reason A)the crappy triple core processor
B)it doesnt have mlaa
C)Blu ray
D) this is why they are needed not rrod or disk trays which scratch your disk
Ps3> xbox 360
PSN>XBL
CRYtEK>HALO/GAYtEK
iamgig9876 6 months ago
@iamgig9876
Make you a deal. If you can point out the part where I said the XBOX 360 is A) More powerful. B) A better console. or C) Microsoft cock tastes like pumpkin pie, I'll give you a cookie with fairy sprinkles on it.
You could start by wiping the foam off your chin and formulating intelligible sentences. I'm all too aware of the performance comparatives on theoretical paperwork. These games have been played by makers since the dawn. The calibre of pixels on-screen brushes all aside.
Hzqi 6 months ago
@Hzqi dude your a dumbass cause you dont how shit works in killzone compared to halo vehicle physics existed in gta 3 killzne has vehiclles but it maintains futuristic space fight through clooaking and other shit
iamgig9876 6 months ago
@andyswVids dude the cell is more of a visual processor than a mass performance processor and will never be in a PC or Laptop.
xCodeFishx 10 months ago
then u have best picture quality ever, that happens
infinitumpatata 2 years ago
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lol ps3 haz no gaems
garc4475 2 years ago
lol 360 haz no gaems
Same result eh?
KevinCroner 2 years ago 11
CELL is new HD
MilkThatEmo 2 years ago
toshiba gona to win with this suprerior act
meni12321 2 years ago
Isn't the "CELL BROADBAND PROCESSOR" a special purpose processor? The PS3 exclusives blows X360 out the water. If you disagree, you're obviously a lying fanboy or straight blind/retarded.
assmonkeyification 2 years ago 4
The PS3 is more powerful, but I find the UI on the 360 superior, That's it though, PS3 wins everything else. Well, PC is superior to all, but as far as game consoles go, PS3 wins. xD
hjustin1993 2 years ago
I disagree. Experts agree a good UI would be one that is easy to use so all can use it with ease and the XMB does a better job of that. X360 UI has too many tabs, buttons and panes. Plus the SONY xmb is more graphically sharper.
assmonkeyification 2 years ago
hmm, guess it's just personal opinion, cuz I personally find the 360's UI to be better. =]
hjustin1993 2 years ago
Let me put it this way....With all the configuration option available with PS3 the XMB layout works better than the X360 UI layout.
assmonkeyification 2 years ago 2
Thank you! PC FTW!
MBFtrace 2 years ago
YEAH. lol seriously!
faster load times...
better graphics (if ya have the hardware)
most games are free if you know where to look...
MODS!
free multiplayer!
PC is deff FTW! lol
hjustin1993 2 years ago
@hjustin1993 ok fasterloading time if u spend like LOTS of money for a cpu and for better graphics u need a graphic card ( expensive ) and free games are hard to find without completing stupid surveys or getting a virus an dps3 has free multiplayer. the only reason it is free because nothing else is . and wiht the game system u can play all the games that game out for the pc without costing an arm
learber 1 year ago
wow. The Cell is awesome!
GeForce47 2 years ago
wasnt Toshiba the developers of HD dvd ?
Stridus7 2 years ago
god i hate these idiots, the reason they wont put it in a pc is because they will have to give rights to intel as there there the only ones who can afford to buy it as it costs something like 500 million to buy the copyright
but then IBM will loose money but they only sell the technology to server users and businesses, WHAT ABOUT ORDINARY PEOPLE?
mrh112 2 years ago
It's not even that...If the Cell were to be put onto a PC (assuming it's for Windows) it just wouldn't work because of it's architecture not being x86. It might possibly run but it would be completely unusable.
Another thing it is terrible at general computing it's only good at floating point, so why bother making it compatible with major operating systems when it's not as good as standard Intel/AMD processors.
Petchhyy 2 years ago
you are misinformed.the cell can beat any proccesor in any task.
chorinicpker 2 years ago
Hahahaha. No, not at all.
It can only do floating point efficiently, it's very good at floating point but if your talking about general purpose calculations, any mordern Intel CPU will drawf the cell.
Need I remind you that the cell has a total of 250M trasistors and a Wolfdale has 850M.
If it was put in a PC, it would not work.
If it was to be used with normal software, it would not work.
If it was to be compared in terms of x86 performance, it would do terribly.
It's also from 2005.
Petchhyy 2 years ago
Wolfdale also has 3 - 6MB of cache as part of that transistor count.
Cell does have a PowerPC unit aswell, so 'normal' software can run, albeit a bit slowly, but that wasn't its purpose, just like desktop chips aren't designed to perform raw computations like Cell is.
NerdInHisShoe 2 years ago
Excluding cache I believe the Wolfdale has 410M, I remember an advertisement for it floating around.
And that's exactly what I'm saying, It's a bold statement to say it can out preform any processor *ever* at *anything*.
Petchhyy 2 years ago
From what I hear it's design for floating point calculations. Coincidently that's the type of calculation that graphics uses.
assmonkeyification 2 years ago
Yeah that's true, but the thing is when it's being used for gaming uses most developers arn't using it graphically at all because it's far to difficult to balance between the RSX.
But to be honest if you were going to be using it for primarily for a GPU it wouldn't stand up to something like a GTX 280 or something anyway.
Petchhyy 2 years ago
I agree
wreako24 2 years ago
Xboxfanboy think Cells full of shit.. they fucking idiot
kiwi539 2 years ago
it is the xbox triple core produces 115GFLOPS and the cell produces 200GFLPOS remember 2 cores are used in the xbox and 7 in the ps3 the cell should be 3.5 times better but its not even twice that plus in gaming its about the gpu not cpu and i have a ps3 by the way not a xbox so the xbox is half the price and u cant tell the difference on multiplartform games mt psn is Rodaz220 if u think i dont have a ps3 sony should have got a cheaper cpu and put 2 gpus that would show xbox whos boss
rodaz440 2 years ago
You're an idiot, i played X360 exclusives and PS3 exclusives and if the x360 is so better it would of showed through in their flagship exclusives. Their exclusives suck dick. I see all these vs. videos where the creator would put the best parts of x360 exclusives in with the slower parts of PS3 exclusives just so the can look like they're on par. But if you play each game all the way through you can see thru the fanboys bullshit manipulation.
assmonkeyification 2 years ago
haha how am i a idiot? wen did i say xbox exclusives are better plz read my last comment again dumb ass and my psn is Rodaz440 got the numbers mixed up
rodaz440 2 years ago
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hjustin1993 2 years ago
It's funny how your calling everyone a fan boy, but based on what i've read your just a huge playstation fanboy....
hjustin1993 2 years ago
Their exclusives does suck dick. I'm a fan boy because after an unbiased comparison I concluded that X360 exclusives suck in comparison to PS3 exclusives. What do you look for when you make comparisons? Wether it's from SONY or Microsoft or what the game really comprise of. So who's the FANBOY?
assmonkeyification 2 years ago 3
Well according to what you just said, you're the fanboy. xD
hjustin1993 2 years ago
You're an idiot. Why don't you shut the fuck before I beat you over the head my PS3.
assmonkeyification 2 years ago 4
wait, i have a hard head so that would prolly break your ps3.. you wouldn't want that would you? =[
hjustin1993 2 years ago
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YOURE GAY YOU FAGGOT
uninspired123 2 years ago
Yes, faggots typically are gay.
comp1337n00b 2 years ago
Oh and that comment I just made was a response to one of the comments with 8 thumbs down...
comp1337n00b 2 years ago
Pretty soon they will release a Slim PS3 just like every other Playstation console. That should be interesting.
Hukler 2 years ago
if they do im buying
irulethe70s 2 years ago
not soon try 4 years which is the minimum
rodaz440 2 years ago
What Iwillkillyou35 means is the PS3 will be outdated by 2012, we won't be seeing the last of it for another 10 years or so, but there will most likley be a new generation of consoles released by then. Exact same situation as the PS2.
thejordan01 2 years ago
try 2015 they wont make a new console unless if something changes like we got hd tv thats y we saw new the xbox 360 and ps3 plus sony is losing money right now so they will try to change that b4 making a new systerm
rodaz440 2 years ago
what's the Price ???????
it's showed in CES2009 Las Vegas
cassano2012 3 years ago
ps3 is going to be around for 10 years maybe more xbox 360 needs help.
nategrier2003 3 years ago 2
haha that is not true at all. I give it until 2012 at most. By 2011 I bet the "ps4" will be available.
I am not saying that the Cell is not good enough to last that long, (although it probably is not) the ps3's GPU is not near good enough to last for ten years.
The next micorsoft system will be coming out around 2011 and it will destroy the ps3, so sony will be forced to do something. Nintendo as well could be good.
The PC even now destroys the ps3 which shows that improvement is possible.
Iwillkillyou35 3 years ago
look at the ps2 it came out 2000 now its 2009 and people still bying it. ps3 is going to be around for a long time
nategrier2003 3 years ago 4
Ohhhhh,
I agree 100% with that. but the next gen will come out same as it has now in regards to the ps2. They will stop selling the ps2, still sell the ps3 and release the "ps4"
Iwillkillyou35 3 years ago
Iwillkillyou35
will be good Sony stop making PS2 and PS3 and release PS4 coz will be more games like Xbox do
kiwi539 2 years ago
Microsoft should just stick to software. That's all they're good at.
StringsCrusader 2 years ago
It is funny that I am being down voted. This shows that people are misunderstanding me.
I am not saying that the xbox is better or anything near that. I am saying that no game system in this generation is going to last 10 years.
Iwillkillyou35 2 years ago 4
last 10 yrs yeh like ps1 and ps2 lasted 10 yrs stay as the current console without a succesor coming out thats a different story
tetrisflop 2 years ago
But ps3 hasnt even reached its full potential yet...KIllzone 2 which has the best graphics out of all the CONSOLE games only used 60% of ps3's spu..So imagine a game that used like 90% of the ps3s power :D
ManyIittIestuff 2 years ago
90% is considered overusing the hardware. It could damage the system.
RLHubner 2 years ago
It's not as simple as measuring "power" in percentages.
Petchhyy 2 years ago
Killzone 2 uses 70% and if so y does the fps drop at times
rodaz440 2 years ago
IT only drops at loading points..It keeps a steady 30fps..And it uses 60%
ManyIittIestuff 2 years ago
I wish they would run at a solid 60fps. Thats why I love my PC as well. 60fps+ is butter smooth. I can tell a huge difference its anything lower.
d3tach3d 2 years ago
Can you prove that Killzone 2 uses only 60% of the cell's capabilities?
assmonkeyification 2 years ago
google it
superman559cali 2 years ago
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XBOX 360 all day !
rimrimz 3 years ago
Stfu fanboy an open your eyes. that last gen piece of shit you call an xbox lost alright?
afawproductions 3 years ago 3
lol, I just realized at the hilarity at 1:10! We have finally found a way to watch multiple channels on tv before the year 2015. Remember the part in Back to the Future part II where Marty's son is watching multiple channels on the family's tv! We dit it before the year that the movie predicted! By the way all you people who take things too seriously, I know that this has nothing to do with the movie, I was just making a joke!
Dragongirl1059 3 years ago 2
unfortunetaly!!!!! most dvd/blue ray players,and tv sets does,nt have a real upscaler but instead it simply resize the image, aswell this is not a problem if the pal/ntsc signal contains a coded signal for hich-res lcd/plasma screen,however if,s the pal/ntsc is not coded for hich-res tv,s , simply resizing couses a blocky picture,thus non coded signals requires a true upscaler!!!!
johneymute 3 years ago
PS3 and xbox 360 have the same amount of total RAM. PS3 has 256 MB for the graphics RAM and 256 MB for the system RAM. 256 MB + 256 Mb = 512 MB. PS3's RAM is faster than Xbox 360's RAM. Xbox 360 has 512 MB of RAM that is shared by the GPU and the CPU.
DragonFighter708 3 years ago
ps3 rule
sjk5000 3 years ago 3
PS3 - Cell processor, Graphics CARD: RSX, Ram: 256 GDDR3 (700 mhz)Graphics, 256 XDR (3200 mhz)System
Sharingan13371 3 years ago
the only sad thing about ps3 is the memory, 256mb of ram is very,very sad. It should be minimum of 512mb.
RLHubner 3 years ago
you do know it has 3 512 ram and next year theyre upgrading it to 3 gig ram minimun
Entity13Productions 3 years ago
no mate, you're not right.
RLHubner 3 years ago 2
to bad you cant use the RSX ram in linux because that would be very usefull. as for RLhubner the ps3 has 512mb but only 256 can be used in linux the RSX(graphics) ram is only for games i dont even think the XMB(UI) uses the RSX memory due to cross board speeds being quite slow. in the PS3 the cell is used to playback all video and applications. so the music photo and video even blu-ray are all played back using the CELL the RSX again is ONLY used for games and thats why its not available i linux
brad450 3 years ago
Yeah. Sony says they are planning to make linux very easy to be installed on ps3.
afawproductions 3 years ago
PS3's Cell CPU tops high-performance computing benchmark
dominicanair 3 years ago 13
i was in chemistry class and we were learning about cells and technology and that in the future the cell processor will be the stock processor in all computers and it will be like 50x to 100x better than the processors we have now
someone1sarge 3 years ago
And how much it cost
cassano2012 3 years ago
i wish you could channel cable through the ps3 and use it to enhance the picture quality of SD cable... that would be awesome, unfortunately ps3 doesnt have the right connectors.
tipoomaster 3 years ago
check out PlayTv for Ps3
Entity13Productions 3 years ago
This is exciting news, because Cell processor have the abilities to link up with other Cell processor and work together. So it is possible for Toshiba to build the TV to allow PS3 to "pool" resources from the Cell inside the TV. Maybe through a extension device? It be interesting to see what they do.
hsiao421 3 years ago
ehh, no, unless they came out with some kind of updated port or a new model of PS3 because HDMI can only transfer Audio and video, and even if it had auxiliary wires in it, it would not make sense to transfer data of that magnitude over a distance of 10+ ft. i mean, great concept n all, but no cigar. when they say they work together, they are referring to the co-processors inside the single chip itself.
nickwiz13 3 years ago
maby to show off if they use the ps3 ethernet and put one on tv a 1gb card like on ps3 then make the software on the tv so it will b like remont play then send half ray traceing to tv could work anyone???
00jaber 3 years ago
Actually that "Link up" ability is something they want to work on in future cell chips... The one in the PS3 right now does not have that ability.. It could be in the PS4 though...
mixedguy 3 years ago
yeah i think they could do it through firmware.
MrHustle13 3 years ago
Multi channel no jutsu
blackmachina 4 years ago
I use my ps3 all the time to watch YouTube on my Tv
DarkestDragonNL 4 years ago 3
lol...dude so do i...in fact im using it to comment you...PS3 FTW
xanarkandXX 4 years ago
Yeah , and now Toshiba will stop making HD-DVDs .
So if you want a cheap Bluray player with also the cell processor inside the choice will be obvious ;)
DarkestDragonNL 3 years ago
What's sad is Sony gets shit on for future-proofing their PS3, and MS gets nothing but damn near universal praise for what amounts to Xbox 1.5. Not only is Sony having the last laugh with HD-DVD getting the middle finger from Warner Bros, and BR profile 2.0 coming out, the PS3 is gonna get the last laugh, as the best BR player for under $400 and getting cheaper, for quite some time.
PUNKem733 4 years ago
and the fanboys still shit on the playstation 3... Its sad really. Cant wait for the cell powered tv.
Vnix 4 years ago
Dude, you can watch porn, Nfl, and Cartoon Network at the same time.
asdfedc 4 years ago 5
I think I would be a little uncomfortable watching porn at the same time as football and naruto
justaname92833 4 years ago 4
lol
happyconvict 4 years ago
lmao!
tipoomaster 3 years ago