peyton has always choked in the playoffs except for a miracle drop by caldwell that led to a gamewinning drive against gassed defenders he then faced the worse sb team in history rexgrossmen led bears. brady is clutch you can lie to yourself all you want on youtube it just makes you look retarded...nuff said.
@Alex23Bos the 11-5 season of NE without brady proves my point, brady is good, but not a god, like all NE fans say...what i respect is that great offensive team...brady would be an avarage QB in any other team and he looks good due to that awesome offensive team (i say it again that 11-5 season without him proves it)
@rianpop they traded moss...so? they had welker and branch, an AWESOME offensive line, a very decent couple of backs...and their defesne doesnt depend on Brady...im not insulting NE, my comment isnt a hate comment...im actually saying NE has such a great team theymake Brady look better...like i said Brady is a good QB, just not THAT great as the NFL and his team makes him look
@WTOJavier that makes no sense at all brady made the pats, any one knos whos from around here ho else as on the roster the first year they won the superbowl(2001)? some key defensive ppl thats it, granted the sb in 2004 was with great help from corey dillon but, 3 superbowl wins 2 mvps, 50 td passes in one season hes gonna go down as the best since terry bradshaw or joe montana mayb the best of all time so get used 2 it
physically, they have a weaker base as well, as they train more for their arms upper body
I can guess that having 250 pounds, carrying much more from force generated by their bull rush diving into your knees does not calculate to a very salutar or safe answer
Basically, it's as if several hundred pounds collapsed on a lame duck
No matter how much ESPN loves Brady and the Patriots,the fact of the matter they cheat! I have never seen a team get more calls than the Patriots. The fat drunk Kraft must be paying Goodell alot of funds. In my mind the Patriots only won 2 Super Bowls since the Raiders beat them FAIR AND SQUARE in 2002, but the Tuck rule miraculously appeared. Then they filmed the Rams walk through.....ala a Super Bowl Victory!!
PLEASE.....look at when he was taken down last season. Cassell came in and won them 10 games. Brady doesnt win superbowls, the team does. They were stacked and dont forget that they cheated and when they didnt cheat, they lost!
Brady really wasn't the reason they won those SB's, the defense was. But still, Brady got 3 and Peytons only got 1 and Peyton was HORRIBLE that playoff year they won the SB.
Brady LOST the Biggest SuperBowl of his Life to go 19-0...Eli Manning won you DOPE....Montana and Bradshaw are the only QB's to go an unbeaten 4-0 in the Superbowls.
so regular season record means a qb is better? WTF....I posted the links and then you post season records? haha you're a joke.....compare the qb's and not the team. I wonder what you're gonna post next, a hotter girlfriend? or maybe nicer car? or what, better hair?.....LOL.....COMPARE THE QUARTERBACKS AND NOT THE TEAM YOU FKN IDIOT
1. you said peyton Had better stats,WRONG, peyton just has the longer career,there for more stats, but by averaging Tom Brady is better in the stats
2. You said Peyton owns the regular season, WRONG, tom brady has never even had a loosing season at NE.
3.you said "peyton owns the regular season" yet when i post the head to head, and regular season full records, you all of a sudden say so regular season record means a qb is better
OK dumb fuck, point out where i said, peyton owns the regular season against brady. YOU FUCKIN IDIOT, I never said against Brady.
I gave you the career averages and Peyton has a better qb rating and passing percentage. MORE GAMES MEAN MORE PASSES THROWN YOU FUCKIN IDIOT, THROWING MORE PASSES RESULTS IN MORE CHANCES OF THROWING INCOMPLETIONS.
like i said, point out where I said "regular season against brady". Im referring to their regular season records and not against each other.
do you want me to post the links again you idiot....
qb rating 95.3-93.4 manning
sacks 212-213 manning (even though manning played 63 more games)
completion percentage 64.7-63.2 Manning
yards per completion 7.7-7.3 Manning
TD% 5.6-5.5 Manning
THERE YOU GO BITCH, THESE STATS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY GAMES PLAYED, EVEN THOUGH LESS GAMES SHOULD MEAN BETTER STATS, BUT MANNING STILL HAS THE STATS. READ THIS FKN COCK SUCKER
Its a rule so stop complaining about it and play the game. If its a rule you have to obey the rules or dont play the game its so simple. Who cares is Brady is a bitch or porter is a douche, follow the damn rules and play the game.
So you like flag football i see? Idk about you.....but there have been so many DAMN fines this season because of "oh you hit him to hard" calls. Pussy shit, that isn't football. Guess you like Flag football....because Joey is right, to many pussies playing whats suppose to be a MANS GAME.
who gives a shit haha? Quit bitching about it as if its going to change to your will. These players are being payed to play the game right, its not up to them, so get over it and play the damn game how the rules say to play them. Yes I do like flag football and the phillies lost the world series.
@Andy90611 Play the game right? It was ok without them always changing rules the past few years......so 1. you stick to your flag football pussy your not man enough
and 2. its says phillies because im from philadelphia
3. i like arizona diamond backs and i believe we killed the yankees in 2001 loser peace faggot
Porter has a point. There is a REASON the call it the brady rule, beacause ITS HIS RULE AND HE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO COMPLAINS ABOUT IT. I've seen no other QB complain about it like he does, carson plamer used to but keyword: USED TO. Brady take off the skirt and play the game it was meant to be played. And i also blame the owners for voting to make these rules as well. Quit babying these players they are grown ass men wo play the game they love knowing there is risk involved! LET THEM PLAY!
Too bad McNabb doesn't have a rule. He's had two cheapshots and nada. While somebody accident just skim the facemask, barely touch it and get hit with a penalty.
The Brady Rules are there for 1 reason, for the NFL to protect it's "bell cow". The world is going to end if Brady gets hurt again. I wish I had a chance to play against him, I would jack him up like a red headed step child!
The NFL doesn't want defense because scoring offenses boost ratings. Over the last decade and half the NFL has come up with more and more rules to make it tougher for defenses to stop the offense. I don't like Brady however to be fair football players have freakish abilities than they did 20-30 years ago. I mean a 300lb defensive tackle that can run the 40 in less than 6 seconds slamming into someone at full speed. Even Steve Young says when he sees the likes of Ray Lewis hes glad hes retired
As a fan it makes me sad my team is the Bears and when it came to the old NFC Central division I grew up watching highlights of NFL films of guys like Dick Butkus, Doug Atkins, Ray Nitschke, Alex Karros, Dick Lebeau, Jim Marshall and the Purple people eaters. So it saddens me to see defense in the NFL get more neutered however it's probably a necessary change. The studies on head trauma in pro football will probably lead to more and more rules until it's unrecognizable as we know it today
TOM BRADY IS A PUSSY...good luck he's had the defenses he's had or those superbowls wouldn't exist...he doesn't make players better, but he inherits already established player....GO PEYTON BEST QB TO PLAY THE GAME
I was pointing out that Moss is a better receiver than Wayne, Harrison. The reason the Pat's have more rings is because coaching, despite the cheating and defense.
Moss is better overall, but Wayne does some things better than Moss also. Moss is better deep and in jumping situations, but Wayne is gritty and catches the passes in tight holes and is awesome in the middle of the field
Peyton is better as a qb.....Brady had more talent around him since day one. The offenses were pretty even, but Brady always had a defense to help him out. Imagine if Peyton had a defense where he doesnt have to throw 3 td's every sunday
No, its Peyton who had talent around him from day one. Both his WR together with him are on the top 10 of tandums. Mannings RB was a best. Brady has never had a running back like Edge
I looked at the NFL total(offenses and Defenses) from 2001 and Up
Peyton has had the edge for most of those years when it came to overall Offense. yet Brady has scorched him head to head.
Manning has MADE his Wr's. look at Garson and Collie, and Manning has a higher passer rating than Brady. If you looked at Reggie Wayne or Marvin Harrison, they don't compare to the size of Randy Moss, but they are great because of Manning. Brady rarely calls his own plays, where Manning audibles nearly every play. It took Manning 14 games to get 49 TD's; with Brady it took 16 games to get 50 (plus 100 more attempts). Edge is was good, but he never averaged more than 4 1/2. nuff' said
@BMBaccount Nuff said huh? Why dont you mention how brady won 3 diff sbs with 3 diff receiving corps. Why dont you mention mannings 3 tds to 7 int in his sb run? He also faced a rex grossman led bears. When it matters,Brady is better.Usually id say mannings the better regular season qb bradys better when it counts but after 1 season with an all star wr like moss look what brady did. So really whos to say mannings even better in the regular season
@BMBaccount im srry who plays OUTSIDE??? yeah and Poutin' plays in a nice cozy dome where no wind is in effect. Brady is better in the Clutch. Manning may have the stats BUT that does not win championships. Colts were heavily favored against the Saints and the Colts had nothing to show for it.
hell no....Brady is not better, Peyton has better IQ and accuracy but brady had overall talent. Look at pro-bowlers, the patriots had way more probowlers than the colts ever had since 2001
I understand, but since people bring up his superbowl wins, of course the better overall team has a chance to win. Defense wins and offense scores AND WHEN YOU HAVE BOTH LIKE THE PATRIOTS ALWAYS HAD, then you're bound to win. Brady looks better because of his superbowl wins, but quarterback attributes alone, Manning has the advantage no doubt!
who has had the better offense around them their entire career
Peyton
2 hall of famer wide outs
a hall of fame running back
a great running back
Plus peyton has been in the league for 3 years longer(4 if you consider brady's not starting the whole first year) actually 5 with not having played last year.
I guess you dont know what qb stats are! you posted head to head matchups....haha wow, you sure arent the brightest fag in the world. anyway, look at career stats of brady and manning. Manning has better efficiency, completion percentage, andyards per completion. AND THINK BEFORE YOU POST, WE WERE TALKIN ABOUT QB'S NOT HEAD TO HEAD MATCHUPS.....I KNOW WHERE THEY STAND
You know, football is meant to be a contact sport. They are supossed to get hit. Yes it may ruin a QB's season if he gets injured, but that just adds to the glory of a season. Brady gets hurt last year and Matt Cassell takes over and leads them to a 12-4 record. Granted they didn't make the playoffs, but what I'm saying is every player helps win. If you can't hit the QB low then why not change it for the WR or the RB. All in all Tom Brady is a whiny no good coward. Dont play if you can't handle
@whyteolyphant zzz just shut up. they finished 11-5 the year they didnt have brady. you dont know a god damn thing about football. "coward" haha your just jealous tom brady is the best QB in the league. does he HAVE to get hurt to get respect? he had two surgeries that year and was in crutches and rehab for a year.... get a fukin clue.
@whyteolyphant they were 11-5 with Cassell right there the legitimacy of your comment is 0 , Tom Brady takes huge hits all the time and got his knee ripped in half coming off the greatest year in nfl history of course he gets pissed from cheap hits
@whyteolyphant qb's are the weakest players on the field rigth along with kickers and punters there going against 'D-LINEMEN' and qb's should be protected and its not just in particular to brady since you were calling him a coward its for every qb oh yea there gonna aply that rule to wr's when there going against 5'10 180 lb players and rb's are stronger and faster than quarterbacks. Qb's are the most inmportant players on the football field without one you can't win the big game!!!!
i hate when referees throw flags just because its tom brady, guess what NFL, not every1 is a patriots fan so fuk da refs for turning the NFL into the crybaby league. p.s. fix overtime while your at it cunts
say what you want about Tom Brady. He is the best right now & soon, they will say ever. I don't agree with all the rules, & the penalties are thrown almost randomly & just by "the look" but it is what it is. & to the people calling him a crybaby, um, he hasn't complained one time. Find me the soundbite of him complaining. he is the poster boy for accountability when it comes to winning and losing. he & peyton manning are the two best & the two that will say it's on them to do better.
rmondor, by the same logic, Terry Bradshaw is much better than Brady. Truth is Brady has had a top 5 defense with him for almost all his carrier. Favre hasn't had that kind of defense with him until this season really.
I just wonder why on every sorry ass team theres this one dumbass that talks hella shit just because his team sucks LOL but it's cool Miami's gettin delt wit this sunday
These rules are purely about money and it's the player's associations push for more money for the players that have brought alone these rules. I'm not saying the players don't deserve the money, because they do. All I'm saying you can't expect the NFL to play with the same smash mouth style from the "Herm Edwards" era when owners are investing 10 million a year into a QB.
It's not brady's fault when the ref calls roughing the passer. And any quarter back who doesn't like getting will complaina bit about it. I mean the guy has the success of a team on his back and if he gets hurt its all over so give him a break. o and by the way, the lions suck.
Oh the Lions suck? Any more expert comments? Really, just because Brady wins three superbowls doesn't give him sack insurance. C'mon man it's football. Brady begs for roughing the passer calls every time he gets touched. Brady isn't the only good quarterbacker in the NFL. Believe it or not Brady gets special treatment.
hey, you have to do what you have to do. I know it's stupid that hitting a quarterback results in a penalty, but look at them. They are like 6'4" 225 pounds. You dont really have to hit them that hard.
Joey porter is a bitch hes just jealous of new england. The rule is to protect the quarter back n when the best or one of the best qbs in the game gets hurt really badly its gonna happen 2 others n nobody wants that so its a good rule. Then he brings up the so called cheating lol everyone in the nfl did it its just that they got caught
its not just an issue over protecting the quarterback, its protecting the man. if you hit a player, any player, too high or too hard you risk the possibilty of causing serious life changing injury to the head and neck. its about keeping an individual safe not just protecting a quarterback
they are over protecting the QBs.
goozeyy 8 months ago
Brady and a lot of QB's need the rule because dirty players are out to hurt them.
tealatequila24 1 year ago
people will always hate the patriots because people hate on winners NE fans have accepted it long ago.
Alex23Bos 1 year ago
peyton has always choked in the playoffs except for a miracle drop by caldwell that led to a gamewinning drive against gassed defenders he then faced the worse sb team in history rexgrossmen led bears. brady is clutch you can lie to yourself all you want on youtube it just makes you look retarded...nuff said.
Alex23Bos 1 year ago
@Alex23Bos the 11-5 season of NE without brady proves my point, brady is good, but not a god, like all NE fans say...what i respect is that great offensive team...brady would be an avarage QB in any other team and he looks good due to that awesome offensive team (i say it again that 11-5 season without him proves it)
WTOJavier 1 year ago
@WTOJavier dude the pats were 12-4 in 2206. they had nobody. like this year. 14-2 after trading Moss. HAHAHAHA your comment has no logic
rianpop 10 months ago
@rianpop they traded moss...so? they had welker and branch, an AWESOME offensive line, a very decent couple of backs...and their defesne doesnt depend on Brady...im not insulting NE, my comment isnt a hate comment...im actually saying NE has such a great team theymake Brady look better...like i said Brady is a good QB, just not THAT great as the NFL and his team makes him look
WTOJavier 10 months ago
@WTOJavier that makes no sense at all brady made the pats, any one knos whos from around here ho else as on the roster the first year they won the superbowl(2001)? some key defensive ppl thats it, granted the sb in 2004 was with great help from corey dillon but, 3 superbowl wins 2 mvps, 50 td passes in one season hes gonna go down as the best since terry bradshaw or joe montana mayb the best of all time so get used 2 it
ganjasmokintildeath 8 months ago
a QB has no momentum just standing there.
physically, they have a weaker base as well, as they train more for their arms upper body
I can guess that having 250 pounds, carrying much more from force generated by their bull rush diving into your knees does not calculate to a very salutar or safe answer
Basically, it's as if several hundred pounds collapsed on a lame duck
The rules are therefore wise
dvdvikp 1 year ago
No matter how much ESPN loves Brady and the Patriots,the fact of the matter they cheat! I have never seen a team get more calls than the Patriots. The fat drunk Kraft must be paying Goodell alot of funds. In my mind the Patriots only won 2 Super Bowls since the Raiders beat them FAIR AND SQUARE in 2002, but the Tuck rule miraculously appeared. Then they filmed the Rams walk through.....ala a Super Bowl Victory!!
kippyia1354 1 year ago
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Brady is better than Manning. You can take the guy with the stats anyday I'll take the guy who wins me Super Bowls
SimbaUno 2 years ago
PLEASE.....look at when he was taken down last season. Cassell came in and won them 10 games. Brady doesnt win superbowls, the team does. They were stacked and dont forget that they cheated and when they didnt cheat, they lost!
SteveRooster85 2 years ago 2
Brady really wasn't the reason they won those SB's, the defense was. But still, Brady got 3 and Peytons only got 1 and Peyton was HORRIBLE that playoff year they won the SB.
UGLYSTIKCOLIN 1 year ago
Brady LOST the Biggest SuperBowl of his Life to go 19-0...Eli Manning won you DOPE....Montana and Bradshaw are the only QB's to go an unbeaten 4-0 in the Superbowls.
zyzyzy121212 1 year ago
bigot? haha please.....we're talking about white quarterbacks and I love both of them and im not white.....is that racist now?
haha ur an idiot.....did you look up the stats yet loser?
maquino220 2 years ago
SteveRooster85
i ddint me you're an idiot
dsjj251 2 years ago
dsjj251 i posted the links on your comments, dont delete em now hahaha
SteveRooster85 2 years ago
wow man
maquino220 is a closet bigot, he just sent me like 4 messeges calling me a nigger,coon, and knuckle dragger.
wow even in 2009 we have idiots like you
dsjj251 2 years ago
yup.....maquino220 is speaking the truth
SteveRooster85 2 years ago
16-0,14-2,14-2,11-5,11-5,10-6,9-7 = Brady
14-2,13-3,12-4,12-4,12-4,12-4,10-6, 6-10
= Peyton Manning
that 16-0 kills that argument by itself
either way Brady is better
dsjj251 2 years ago
so regular season record means a qb is better? WTF....I posted the links and then you post season records? haha you're a joke.....compare the qb's and not the team. I wonder what you're gonna post next, a hotter girlfriend? or maybe nicer car? or what, better hair?.....LOL.....COMPARE THE QUARTERBACKS AND NOT THE TEAM YOU FKN IDIOT
maquino220 2 years ago 2
OK dumbass, lets post your mistakes then
1. you said peyton Had better stats,WRONG, peyton just has the longer career,there for more stats, but by averaging Tom Brady is better in the stats
2. You said Peyton owns the regular season, WRONG, tom brady has never even had a loosing season at NE.
3.you said "peyton owns the regular season" yet when i post the head to head, and regular season full records, you all of a sudden say so regular season record means a qb is better
you're a Joke
dsjj251 2 years ago
OK dumb fuck, point out where i said, peyton owns the regular season against brady. YOU FUCKIN IDIOT, I never said against Brady.
I gave you the career averages and Peyton has a better qb rating and passing percentage. MORE GAMES MEAN MORE PASSES THROWN YOU FUCKIN IDIOT, THROWING MORE PASSES RESULTS IN MORE CHANCES OF THROWING INCOMPLETIONS.
like i said, point out where I said "regular season against brady". Im referring to their regular season records and not against each other.
maquino220 2 years ago
where did i say you said "peyton owns the regular season over brady"
you putting words in my "mouth"
also i already posted the regular season records, BRADY WINS that
dsjj251 2 years ago
do you want me to post the links again you idiot....
qb rating 95.3-93.4 manning
sacks 212-213 manning (even though manning played 63 more games)
completion percentage 64.7-63.2 Manning
yards per completion 7.7-7.3 Manning
TD% 5.6-5.5 Manning
THERE YOU GO BITCH, THESE STATS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY GAMES PLAYED, EVEN THOUGH LESS GAMES SHOULD MEAN BETTER STATS, BUT MANNING STILL HAS THE STATS. READ THIS FKN COCK SUCKER
maquino220 2 years ago
you have posted no link, and you never did before this
where did you get these stats, and why didnt you post Brady's too.
your so bias it isnt funny
dsjj251 2 years ago
The only people on the field that are more protected than Tom Brady are the coaches! Even the kicker gets hit more, hahaha.
dhardin33 2 years ago
Its a rule so stop complaining about it and play the game. If its a rule you have to obey the rules or dont play the game its so simple. Who cares is Brady is a bitch or porter is a douche, follow the damn rules and play the game.
Andy90611 2 years ago
So you like flag football i see? Idk about you.....but there have been so many DAMN fines this season because of "oh you hit him to hard" calls. Pussy shit, that isn't football. Guess you like Flag football....because Joey is right, to many pussies playing whats suppose to be a MANS GAME.
Philliesboy16 2 years ago
who gives a shit haha? Quit bitching about it as if its going to change to your will. These players are being payed to play the game right, its not up to them, so get over it and play the damn game how the rules say to play them. Yes I do like flag football and the phillies lost the world series.
Andy90611 2 years ago
@Andy90611 Play the game right? It was ok without them always changing rules the past few years......so 1. you stick to your flag football pussy your not man enough
and 2. its says phillies because im from philadelphia
3. i like arizona diamond backs and i believe we killed the yankees in 2001 loser peace faggot
Philliesboy16 2 years ago
How can you say "peace" with such harsh words? I thought you come from the city of brotherly love? I happen to play football, with and without flags.
Andy90611 2 years ago
Porter has a point. There is a REASON the call it the brady rule, beacause ITS HIS RULE AND HE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO COMPLAINS ABOUT IT. I've seen no other QB complain about it like he does, carson plamer used to but keyword: USED TO. Brady take off the skirt and play the game it was meant to be played. And i also blame the owners for voting to make these rules as well. Quit babying these players they are grown ass men wo play the game they love knowing there is risk involved! LET THEM PLAY!
coolhawk19 2 years ago 2
so when are the Mcnabb rules going to kick in? never im guessing.
vonversace 2 years ago
Too bad McNabb doesn't have a rule. He's had two cheapshots and nada. While somebody accident just skim the facemask, barely touch it and get hit with a penalty.
Not cool man.
SpraxIAKS 2 years ago
I agree with porter.. Tom Bradys a little bitch
IcEpHiN 2 years ago
agreed
json1 2 years ago
The Brady Rules are there for 1 reason, for the NFL to protect it's "bell cow". The world is going to end if Brady gets hurt again. I wish I had a chance to play against him, I would jack him up like a red headed step child!
uhrsker 2 years ago
Brady needs to wear a tutu out there on the field.
09164 2 years ago 2
@09164 kiss the rings BITCH
pats4lifebb 1 year ago
@pats4lifebb J-E-T-S BITCH
11thEarlofProg 1 year ago
The NFL doesn't want defense because scoring offenses boost ratings. Over the last decade and half the NFL has come up with more and more rules to make it tougher for defenses to stop the offense. I don't like Brady however to be fair football players have freakish abilities than they did 20-30 years ago. I mean a 300lb defensive tackle that can run the 40 in less than 6 seconds slamming into someone at full speed. Even Steve Young says when he sees the likes of Ray Lewis hes glad hes retired
pfax 2 years ago
As a fan it makes me sad my team is the Bears and when it came to the old NFC Central division I grew up watching highlights of NFL films of guys like Dick Butkus, Doug Atkins, Ray Nitschke, Alex Karros, Dick Lebeau, Jim Marshall and the Purple people eaters. So it saddens me to see defense in the NFL get more neutered however it's probably a necessary change. The studies on head trauma in pro football will probably lead to more and more rules until it's unrecognizable as we know it today
pfax 2 years ago
TOM BRADY IS A PUSSY...good luck he's had the defenses he's had or those superbowls wouldn't exist...he doesn't make players better, but he inherits already established player....GO PEYTON BEST QB TO PLAY THE GAME
MrColtboy09 2 years ago
BRADY TRUMPS MANNING BY A MILE
dsjj251 2 years ago
SIKE!!! only in the superbowl department...peyton has done so much more than peyton...u would know that if u knew anything about football or the NFL
MrColtboy09 2 years ago
and i'm talking stat wise...if peyton was the QB for the patriots...they would have a lot more superbowls..and peyton stats would be out the roof.
MrColtboy09 2 years ago
Have you seen the offense peyton has had around him his entire career. I f brady had that from the start he would have 2 or 3 more rings
Both of Peytons WR's are on the top 10 on the tandum(QB to WR) top 10
dsjj251 2 years ago
in what? having the randy moss category?
Am3ricanW0lf 2 years ago
Brady has only had Moss for 2 and 1/2 seasons
Peyton has had Wayne and Harrison for most (wayne) or all (harrison) of his career
dsjj251 2 years ago
I was pointing out that Moss is a better receiver than Wayne, Harrison. The reason the Pat's have more rings is because coaching, despite the cheating and defense.
Am3ricanW0lf 2 years ago
Moss is better overall, but Wayne does some things better than Moss also. Moss is better deep and in jumping situations, but Wayne is gritty and catches the passes in tight holes and is awesome in the middle of the field
maquino220 2 years ago
Realistically Brady has had Moss and Welker for 1 and 1/2 season......Imagine if he would've had this duo earlier in his career!!!
MeinComp 2 years ago
Peyton is better as a qb.....Brady had more talent around him since day one. The offenses were pretty even, but Brady always had a defense to help him out. Imagine if Peyton had a defense where he doesnt have to throw 3 td's every sunday
maquino220 2 years ago
No, its Peyton who had talent around him from day one. Both his WR together with him are on the top 10 of tandums. Mannings RB was a best. Brady has never had a running back like Edge
I looked at the NFL total(offenses and Defenses) from 2001 and Up
Peyton has had the edge for most of those years when it came to overall Offense. yet Brady has scorched him head to head.
defense
the teams are actually more even.
BRADY id the better QB
dsjj251 2 years ago
Manning has MADE his Wr's. look at Garson and Collie, and Manning has a higher passer rating than Brady. If you looked at Reggie Wayne or Marvin Harrison, they don't compare to the size of Randy Moss, but they are great because of Manning. Brady rarely calls his own plays, where Manning audibles nearly every play. It took Manning 14 games to get 49 TD's; with Brady it took 16 games to get 50 (plus 100 more attempts). Edge is was good, but he never averaged more than 4 1/2. nuff' said
BMBaccount 2 years ago 2
actually edge averaged 5.3 one year
Brady has the passing record for 16 games so that destroys your peyton 14 game bull crap.
and manning calls audibles because he doesnt have confidence in his O Line.
and like I said Peton has had Wayne and Harrison for the Majority of his career(wayne) or all of his career(harrison).
Brady has only had moss for 2 years
dsjj251 2 years ago
@BMBaccount Nuff said huh? Why dont you mention how brady won 3 diff sbs with 3 diff receiving corps. Why dont you mention mannings 3 tds to 7 int in his sb run? He also faced a rex grossman led bears. When it matters,Brady is better.Usually id say mannings the better regular season qb bradys better when it counts but after 1 season with an all star wr like moss look what brady did. So really whos to say mannings even better in the regular season
soma27 1 year ago
@BMBaccount im srry who plays OUTSIDE??? yeah and Poutin' plays in a nice cozy dome where no wind is in effect. Brady is better in the Clutch. Manning may have the stats BUT that does not win championships. Colts were heavily favored against the Saints and the Colts had nothing to show for it.
mike0n0jake0inc 1 year ago
@mike0n0jake0inc i dont think his stats are even better then bradys anymore lol
ganjasmokintildeath 1 year ago
@ganjasmokintildeath xD 11 INTs in the last THREE games
mike0n0jake0inc 1 year ago
@mike0n0jake0inc woaaa 3 games and did u see what happened 2 the jets 4 talkin shit lol dont make your team next
ganjasmokintildeath 1 year ago
hell no....Brady is not better, Peyton has better IQ and accuracy but brady had overall talent. Look at pro-bowlers, the patriots had way more probowlers than the colts ever had since 2001
maquino220 2 years ago
We arent arguing wich team is better, we are arguing which QB is Better
and just about ever offense player on the colts team has made the pro bowl
dsjj251 2 years ago
I understand, but since people bring up his superbowl wins, of course the better overall team has a chance to win. Defense wins and offense scores AND WHEN YOU HAVE BOTH LIKE THE PATRIOTS ALWAYS HAD, then you're bound to win. Brady looks better because of his superbowl wins, but quarterback attributes alone, Manning has the advantage no doubt!
maquino220 2 years ago
peyton has averaged the better defefence
Indy has just lost in the playoffs more.
I think Mannying looks better because of the offense that has been around him his entire career
brady hasnt had 2 wide outs on either side of him that was as good as that duo, and then had a RB and TE like peyton has
dsjj251 2 years ago
better defense? brady had rodney harrison, mike vrabel, bruschi, seymour, ty law..... and the list goes on and on....
please offenses were even, and he defense made a big effect on what the qb had to do
maquino220 2 years ago
I used the stats on the NFL web site
it says they were pretty much even on defense except for 1 year
dsjj251 2 years ago
peyton has over 10,000 yards passing MORE than brady.
4 rings blah blah blah.....in 04 when they faced on in the playoffs Ty Law was the one who killed manning he had 3 picks.
But when they met again in the postseason, the colts rallied from a double digit margin to eventually win the superbowl.
Manning owns the regular season and brady owns the postseason, but for qb vs qb, its manning hands down
look at the qb stats ALONE and you'll see the better qb
maquino220 2 years ago
who has had the better offense around them their entire career
Peyton
2 hall of famer wide outs
a hall of fame running back
a great running back
Plus peyton has been in the league for 3 years longer(4 if you consider brady's not starting the whole first year) actually 5 with not having played last year.
dsjj251 2 years ago
oh and you cant count
Sep. 30, 2001 Foxborough New England Patriots 44-13
Oct. 21, 2001 Indianapolis New England Patriots 38-17
dsjj251 2 years ago 2
Nov. 30, 2003 Indianapolis New England Patriots 38-34
Jan. 18, 2004 Foxborough New England Patriots 24-14
Sep. 9, 2004 Foxborough New England Patriots 27-24
Jan. 16, 2005 Foxborough New England Patriots 20-3
Nov. 7, 2005 Foxborough Indianapolis Colts 40-21
Nov. 5, 2006 Foxborough Indianapolis Colts 27-20
Jan. 21, 2007 Indianapolis Indianapolis Colts 38-34 Nov. 4, 2007 Indianapolis New England Patriots 24-20
Nov. 2, 2008 Indianapolis Indianapolis Colts 18-15
dsjj251 2 years ago
I guess you dont know what qb stats are! you posted head to head matchups....haha wow, you sure arent the brightest fag in the world. anyway, look at career stats of brady and manning. Manning has better efficiency, completion percentage, andyards per completion. AND THINK BEFORE YOU POST, WE WERE TALKIN ABOUT QB'S NOT HEAD TO HEAD MATCHUPS.....I KNOW WHERE THEY STAND
maquino220 2 years ago
You know, football is meant to be a contact sport. They are supossed to get hit. Yes it may ruin a QB's season if he gets injured, but that just adds to the glory of a season. Brady gets hurt last year and Matt Cassell takes over and leads them to a 12-4 record. Granted they didn't make the playoffs, but what I'm saying is every player helps win. If you can't hit the QB low then why not change it for the WR or the RB. All in all Tom Brady is a whiny no good coward. Dont play if you can't handle
whyteolyphant 2 years ago 4
11-5 if they did win 12 games they would have made the playoffs.
jaykia 2 years ago
@whyteolyphant BUT if Brady got hurt. i dont think Hoyer would have the same success as Cassel. Cassel had the talent but nobody knew.
mike0n0jake0inc 1 year ago
@whyteolyphant u cant hit the qb low cuz its common sense, its just a fucked up thing 2 do
ganjasmokintildeath 1 year ago
@whyteolyphant zzz just shut up. they finished 11-5 the year they didnt have brady. you dont know a god damn thing about football. "coward" haha your just jealous tom brady is the best QB in the league. does he HAVE to get hurt to get respect? he had two surgeries that year and was in crutches and rehab for a year.... get a fukin clue.
xswijnji 1 year ago
@whyteolyphant werent the Pats 11-5 and missed the playoffs without brady?
rianpop 10 months ago
@whyteolyphant they were 11-5 with Cassell right there the legitimacy of your comment is 0 , Tom Brady takes huge hits all the time and got his knee ripped in half coming off the greatest year in nfl history of course he gets pissed from cheap hits
Shafasta1 9 months ago
@whyteolyphant qb's are the weakest players on the field rigth along with kickers and punters there going against 'D-LINEMEN' and qb's should be protected and its not just in particular to brady since you were calling him a coward its for every qb oh yea there gonna aply that rule to wr's when there going against 5'10 180 lb players and rb's are stronger and faster than quarterbacks. Qb's are the most inmportant players on the football field without one you can't win the big game!!!!
chavezisland 7 months ago
i hate when referees throw flags just because its tom brady, guess what NFL, not every1 is a patriots fan so fuk da refs for turning the NFL into the crybaby league. p.s. fix overtime while your at it cunts
thisisgame 2 years ago
say what you want about Tom Brady. He is the best right now & soon, they will say ever. I don't agree with all the rules, & the penalties are thrown almost randomly & just by "the look" but it is what it is. & to the people calling him a crybaby, um, he hasn't complained one time. Find me the soundbite of him complaining. he is the poster boy for accountability when it comes to winning and losing. he & peyton manning are the two best & the two that will say it's on them to do better.
allfitch84 2 years ago
Favre > Brady
Dustay2121 2 years ago
Brady more championships then Farve in fewer seasons.
rmondor21 2 years ago
rmondor, by the same logic, Terry Bradshaw is much better than Brady. Truth is Brady has had a top 5 defense with him for almost all his carrier. Favre hasn't had that kind of defense with him until this season really.
jaykia 2 years ago
I just wonder why on every sorry ass team theres this one dumbass that talks hella shit just because his team sucks LOL but it's cool Miami's gettin delt wit this sunday
Kokiolane 2 years ago
These rules are purely about money and it's the player's associations push for more money for the players that have brought alone these rules. I'm not saying the players don't deserve the money, because they do. All I'm saying you can't expect the NFL to play with the same smash mouth style from the "Herm Edwards" era when owners are investing 10 million a year into a QB.
johzsum 2 years ago
It doesn't matter how Brady gets hit he will still whine and bitch like a little cunt and then suck the refs dick until he gets a penalty.
InsaneLionsFan 2 years ago
It's not brady's fault when the ref calls roughing the passer. And any quarter back who doesn't like getting will complaina bit about it. I mean the guy has the success of a team on his back and if he gets hurt its all over so give him a break. o and by the way, the lions suck.
PJORmaximus 2 years ago
Oh the Lions suck? Any more expert comments? Really, just because Brady wins three superbowls doesn't give him sack insurance. C'mon man it's football. Brady begs for roughing the passer calls every time he gets touched. Brady isn't the only good quarterbacker in the NFL. Believe it or not Brady gets special treatment.
InsaneLionsFan 2 years ago 2
QB are like bitches these days, they should just give them flags to wear!!
winstonwei119 2 years ago 4
@winstonwei119
We can't, they might complain about the color of the flag
TheKaijuSciFiGuy 2 years ago
hey, you have to do what you have to do. I know it's stupid that hitting a quarterback results in a penalty, but look at them. They are like 6'4" 225 pounds. You dont really have to hit them that hard.
jiggaluv123 2 years ago
Joey porter is a bitch hes just jealous of new england. The rule is to protect the quarter back n when the best or one of the best qbs in the game gets hurt really badly its gonna happen 2 others n nobody wants that so its a good rule. Then he brings up the so called cheating lol everyone in the nfl did it its just that they got caught
MMAisLife617 2 years ago
mind as well make it a two hand touch or the QB, and call that a sack man..
shaochiavang 2 years ago
The NFL makes it too easy for the QB. You cant hit high, you cant hit low. This is football, what happens happens, sack the crap out of them.
tonygunshow19 2 years ago
its not just an issue over protecting the quarterback, its protecting the man. if you hit a player, any player, too high or too hard you risk the possibilty of causing serious life changing injury to the head and neck. its about keeping an individual safe not just protecting a quarterback
arsenalongao 2 years ago
true, but ur already tackling anywaise, i understand that, but when you put in all the rulles, it just dont make sense nomore
shaochiavang 2 years ago
I wonder if Joey Porter would feel the same way if someone knock Henne out for the season because they sacked him around the knees.
VerdammtX 2 years ago
exactly
TheMan750 2 years ago
What Brady did is no different than a WR asking for a pass interference flag and that happens almost every play
crigney2489 2 years ago 2