Lasse Viren, Munchenin 5000m

[toby099]

look at that sneaky guy at the end passing pre and pushing him out of the medals , very sneaky

[PaulVinonaama]

@toby099 Yea, what an arrogance and insult to sportsmanship to pass "pre"! :-D

[VirenKickedPresAss]

@PaulVinonaama So true! Viren was unstoppable in this race.

[1sushicheese1]

@VirenKickedPresAss the dislike bar is as big as VirenkickedPresass dick loloololololololololololololol­ololololololololololololololol­ololololololololoolololololool­o

blocked and reported fagg0t owned ur responces will now be ignored and not even read.

[VlRENkickedPresass]

@1sushicheese1 If its as big as my dick, then it must be a foot long- your momma never compalined, as I was doing her doggy, while watching Viren kick Pres ASS in 1972!

[1sushicheese1]

@VlRENkickedPresass LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL the dislike bar is as big as "VirenkickedPresass" dick

[VirenKickedPresAss]

@1sushicheese1 Did your homo friend nice rice get ahold of you? I see you two have been missing each other.

[VlRENkickedPresass]

@1sushicheese1 Did you see Viren kick Pre's ass AGAIN in this video?

[MrJuha82]

@PaulVinonaama i didnt see any push by that runner who wins the Bronze Medal who goes ahead of that one guy in the end of this trip, right before the goal.

If u know better but i cant see it from that camera angle.

[PaulVinonaama]

@MrJuha82 You misunderstood me. Stewart won the bronze quite fairly. My comment was meant as irony against those silly American Pre-fans who think that beating their hero was a crime in itself.

Ymmärsit väärin. Stewart voitti pronssin täysin reilusti. Kommenttini oli tarkoitettu ironiaksi niitä hassuja amerikkalaisia faneja kohtaan, joiden mielestä Prefontainen voittaminen oli itsessään rikos.

[MrJuha82]

@PaulVinonaama en lukenu aiempia kommenttejanne.

[MrJuha82]

@PaulVinonaama mutta huomasin sen että sen tasapaino horjahti tai sitten se luovutti kun näki että toinen meni ohi ja se näytti tasapainon menettämiseltä vaikkei ollut sitä oikeasti. Pitäisi nähdä parempi kuvakulma oliko siinä puskemista vai ei.

[VirenKickedPresAss]

@toby099 Maybe Pre should have grown a pair in the final 180M, and then maybe he MIGHT have bronze-- but for gold and silver, he had NO chance.

[VirenKickedPresAss]

Pre got his ass TOTALLY KICKED in the final 180m...

[VirenKickedPresAss]

Viren was the BEST!!!

[VirenKickedPresAss]

And Prefontaine STILL would NOT have won ANY medal in this race- they were WAY faster in the sprint then in '72!

[mahtivaari72]

This was Prefontaine's best international performance. His ghost did not win in Montreal 4 years later even though Americans seem to think so.

[YiftertheShifter1]

@mahtivaari72 Prefontaine actually did place second in some European races (including one around the time of this race), and even won a race in Oslo. The LA times mile has international competitors, so maybe we can notch that up too. Other than that, Pre's chances of winning in Montreal are very much exaggerated.

[umpisuoli87]

Jotenkin nuo tuon aikaiset urheiluasut pistivät näyttämään, että nuo urheilijat olisivat pitkiä..

[papmjny]

Arthur Lydiard wan head coach when Lasse was closin top of thwe world

[NevesinjeGun1875]

Can someone translate the conversation... Thanks!

[papmjny]

@NevesinjeGun1875 Arthur Lydiard wan head coach when Lasse was closin top of thwe world

[e5k1m0]

@NevesinjeGun1875 Here's a rough translation:  "How do you feel about these moments now?" "Well that (Olympics) was just one event during my life. Well ofcource it's nice to sometimes remember these moments but I don't know what to say (about my feelings). My career was the most important thing to me back then. I set certain goals for myself and I went to accomplish them."

[Currsedd]

Laskin ton vikan satasen, hirmuinen vauhti, 12-13 sekuntiin meni vaikka löysäsikin vähän lopussa

[lollero16]

Uskomaton ÄIJÄ!!!!

[toby099]

Prefontaine had more courage and balls than the rest of the runners. Winning isn't everything..........

[YiftertheShifter1]

@toby099 But Prefontaine and the others came to win, not to show that they have "courage and balls." There can be one Olympic champion in the event, and that goes to the winner. The winner, whichever way he/she wins (provided it's legal) gets the gold medal; if he shows courage and guts, great, that accentuates the prize. But showing "courage and balls," then fading to 4th is not a replacement for winning.

[VirenKickedPresAss]

@toby099 ... Winning isn't everything? What book did you get THAT out of? "Things Losers Say"?

[VirenKickedPresAss]

@toby099 How do you figure?!?

[caravaggio31]

Viren was who Prefontaine would like to be.

[MrVicarpeggio]

There was a joke about Viren as he was a police officer that he would chase down speeders.

[VirenKickedPresAss]

He was the most consistant in the world when it counted.

[niv06290]

Apparently Shifter has forgotten about Frank Shorter, as well ... sheesh! Come to think of it, didn't he clobber Viren in the '76 Olympic marathon ... lol!

[VirenKickedPresAss]

@niv06290 Yeah, that "wuss" Viren- All the heats of the 5k with a gold medal, the heats of the 10k with a gold medal, and to have such a poor showing in the marathon of 5th place...

Frank ran AWESOME.

[niv06290]

@VirenKickedPresAss Yeah, ironically, Frank placed 5th in the 10K ...

[VirenKickedPresAss]

@niv06290 both great performances.

[YiftertheShifter1]

Uh... yeah, can you think of anybody who has run an Olympic final (AND WON IT :))) less than 24 hours before running 26.2 miles? Scratch that, make it TWO FINALS, 10000m HEATS AND FINALS, 30000m TOTAL, as opposed to Shorter who, like all the other marathon runners, had experience at the distance and were well rested prior. It's a tremendous accomplishment for someone in those circumstances to even finish the marathon, let alone in the top 10, or even 5!

[VirenKickedPresAss]

@YiftertheShifter1 And, as I am sure you might agree, Viren can be considered one of the best.

[YiftertheShifter1]

I usually judge that on three criterion: best performances (personal bests), consistency, and titles, with other categories like longevity, win streaks, head to heads, etc... factoring in. Viren may not have been the most consistent runner, but his personal bests were world records when set, and his Olympic triumphs are unprecedented. Yes: based on my criterion, Viren is one of the best.

[niv06290]

Apparently Shifter the Ignoramous has forgotten about Meb Keflezighi, who took silver in the Marathon in 2004. Compare that to the medal count of the Finns, which is of of course ... zero ... if you don't count Karrlo Maaninka,and I dont, as he later admitted to doping - something Viren never had the guts to do ...

Pre lives, dude! LOL!

[YiftertheShifter1]

Tell me "Niv," can you read? "Is that why not a single American IN THE GENERATION FOLLOWING PRE has won an Olympic medal in a distance event?" Meb's silver occurred over 25 years, more than one generation (even more considering an athlete's competitive/ professional career lasts between 10-15 years)... so ignoramous little Niv, do you "have the guts" to show how pathetically inept you are? Viren lives, Pre is dead. LOL.

[jessika545]

I hate you all!!! Pre is obviously better

[YiftertheShifter1]

Pre lost to Viren. Pre won zero medals. Pre set zero world records. Pre won zero international races. Viren won four Olympic golds, set three world records (5000m, 10000m, 2 miles), two Olympic records, and ran more meters in one Olympiad (1976) than any other runner in history. Viren was the best. Pre settles for fourth, or more properly (and a great foreshadowing in these words) "DIES in the final strides."

[niv06290]

No - Pre was the best because he inspired millions of runners ... as well as the pathetic obsession of guys like you and Shifter. I just don't get it ... lol!

[YiftertheShifter1]

Is that why not a single American in the generation following Pre has won an Olympic medal in a distance event? Oh that's right: Pre inspires people to waste all their energy and "die in the final strides." It's because of your "Pre lives" cult that American distance running has been so poor in the last 30 years. Now that Pre is long gone and less people worship him things may be starting to look up... 2009 showed good progress for American distance running.

[VirenKickedPresAss]

@YiftertheShifter1 Yifter- correction- Brian Diemer wom Bronze in the 84 Olympics in the 3000m Steeplechase.

[YiftertheShifter1]

Oh, I forgot about that... if that's the only one... my point still sorta stands to be corrected.

[VirenKickedPresAss]

Viren. The best of his time.

[niv06290]

Absolutely ... with the exception of Pre!

[VirenKickedPresAss]

@niv06290 Did you say Pre because of all of his world records and Olympic medals compared to Viren?

[YiftertheShifter1]

LOL. You hopeless fool, :)))))))) Give us all a break and do what I told you earlier.

[62liimis]

Toisaalta kyllä kyllästyttää lukea noita jenkkien kommentteja...entä jos Pre jne. Rohkea juoksija, mutta tuli reilusti turpiin Munchenissa. Kukaan ei loppujen lopuksi tiedä Lassen lopullisia rajoja. Henkiset lahjat ovat sitä luokkaa, että kova oliai sen kaverin pitänyt olla, joka olisi Montrealissa hänet voittanut. Uuden-Seelannin pojat puhuivat veritankkauksesta...puhukoot edelleen.

[elvisaron1]

Kiitos =)

[rytkonen]

poo72: Ilmeisesti Pren äkkiväärä persoona ja varhainen kuolema ovat tehneet hänestä legendan, jonka palvonta saa välillä koomisiakin piirteitä. Ehkä Mills, Schul, Shorter, Rodgers, Spivey, Scott, Kennedy ja monet muuta Pretä kovemmat juoksijat olivat/ovat liian "normaaleja" saadakseen osakseen vastaavaa.

Anyway, olisihan se ollut jännä nähdä Pre Montrealissa häviämässä Lasselle uudemmankin kerran. Pre oli kovakuntoinen taistelija, mutta se taktinen silmä...

[laitelanlanko]

vittuku tulee vedet silmii ^^

[rytkonen]

Jenkkien Pre-hehkutus on kyllä kummallisimpia ilmiöitä näissä piireissä...

[poo72]

Jenkeissä varhainen kuolema tekee ihmisestä legendan, ei välttämättä saavutukset. Ikuisesti voidaan spekuloida, mitä Pre olisi tehnyt Montrealissa. Prefontaine Classics on Yhdysvalloissa yksi tärkeimpiä yu-tapahtumia, johon maan parhaat yleisurheilijat aina osallistuvat, kuvastaa Prefontainen legendaarisuutta. Suomalaisena asiaa on vaikea ymmärtää ottaen vielä huomioon, että jenkeillä on satapäin olympiavoittajia yleisurheilussa.

[DonsonJack]

Mitä väliä sillä on että jenkeillä on satapäin olympiavoittajia yleisurheilussa @ Poo72

Ainostaan voittajat muistetaan, eli viren tässä tapauksessa.

Ehkä Pre oli heille iso juttu, mutta se että se on heille iso juttu ei tarkoita että hän olisi sitä meille, millään tasolla, fyysisellä sekä että emotionaalisella tasolla.

Hän hävis, tärkeissä kilpailuissa.

Viren panosti näihin kilpailuihin.

[YiftertheShifter1]

A special day in the history of Finnish athletics: for the first time since 1928, Finland sweeps the 1500, 5000, and 10000m, the former two happening on the same day.

[meester6178]

finland didnt sweep this, sweeping is when they get gold silver and bronze

[YiftertheShifter1]

Oh, sorry. I meant taking gold in these three events. My mistake.

[62liimis]

Yeah...winning both 5000m and 1500m with less than half an hour apart, that day I will remember for the rest of my life.

[YiftertheShifter1]

I wonder how he can be so calm 1:31- 1:52... If I was passed like that, I'd get on my feet and fight back for the lead as best as I possibly could... No, Viren is so self-assured that he can just float around and win by 10 meters in the home straight.

[cob4128]

possibley the greatest of all time

[YiftertheShifter1]

I think we can all make a strong case for Viren being the greatest Olympic runner in history. Though you may mention Nurmi, let us not forget that five of his nine gold medals were won in events that are now defunct; as for Emil Zapotek... well, first of all you have to qualify for the Olympic Marathon, so your first Marathon can't come in the Olympic games, and second his winning time was 10 minutes slower than Viren's fifth place finish. Viren and his double double: unparalleled.

[Offspring1337]

doper!

[YiftertheShifter1]

please shut up

[englishman1960]

Viren was a policeman.he would never break the law by taking drugs.

[62liimis]

No joo, esim. NL:n jääkiekkojoukkueen dopingtestiin meni valmentaja mukaan kuselle suljettuihin tiloihin. Näin ollen ainakin joku joukkueeseen kuuluvista oli puhdas, että silleen...

[FinnMove]

Mun oma kommentti on se, että puheet dopingista ovat turhia. Ei kukaan tiedä varmasti miten asiat olivat silloin.

Esimerkiksi satoja NL: n ja DDR: n voittoja voitaisiin spekuloida samalla lailla.

[AnitCsah]

What does he say at the end of the video?

[Oni1One]

He was asked how he feels about those moments now.

He replied that: "It is nice to remember those moments in my sporting career. It was the pinacle of my career and the most important event of my life and I achieved it because I set it as my most important goal in my career."

[AnitCsah]

ok, thank you!

[prporter1]

Please show documentation where he used dope. Not speculation, not heresay, but actual proof. I would like to see it if it exists. We wait for your answer. Again, not hersay, or "so-and so said."

[prporter1]

Great movie! I was fortunate to have been cast as Lasse Viren. It was a fun movie to be in. Got to hang out with Crudup, Sutherland, and Tom Cruise. It was a great experience

[kingwilson06ad]

did you meet Viren or any of the other runners in that final?

[prporter1]

Knew all of them, and race against most of them. Viren was a little before my time, but I did a clinic with him in Helsinki in 1985. I was on 2 US Oly teams in the 10,000m

[checkin344]

He is a cheater you cannot use anything to enhance your performance.

[24964x]

Doping tests were made and all three best were tested clean. Prefontaine was not able to use his drugs in the olympics, because tests were the best available.

[AndeKandeRundeMunde]

Checkin is just bitter

[prporter1]

Plese show documentation where he used dope. Not speculation, not heresay, but actual proof. I would like to see it if it exists.

[raulevich]

correcto tienes razon al gran gammoudi precursor de los atletas africanos campeones de fondo y dominadores actuales...y el gran frank shorter medalla de oro de la maraton de munich....tienes razon ....y el gran putemans el belga de gran corazon

[raulevich]

y que si se hizo transfusiones de sangre, no estaba prohibido, no eran sustancias prohibidas, que en 1988 las prohibieran ya no es culpa de el, ademas nunca acepto que lo hubiera hecho y si lo hizo??? no fue en su año.

[raulevich]

viren eres un maestro si a prefontaine que fue un perdedor le hicieron dos peliculas a ti minimo una saga de peliculas a lo rocky...le ganaste a leyendas como pre en munich, al gran carlos lopes ganador de la maraton de los angeles 84 , al genial john walker ganador de los 1500 de montreal. menudos contrincantes....viren estas en mi galeria de idolos , junto con el diego

[Andresrunner]

Amigo, olvidaste incluir a Gammoudi, Frank Shorter, Puttemans... Lasse fue colosal!!!

[kingwilson06ad]

Viren corrio los ultimos 1500 metros de la final de los 5000 metros en Montreal en un tiempo que le hubiera puesto cuarto en la final de los 1500 metros!!! Y al dia siguiente corrio la maraton y acabo quinto... todo un hito

[kingwilson06ad]

Martti Vainio was busted in the 1984 Olympics for taking an illegal substance and his 10,000 meter silver medal was taken away. Juha Väätäinen, the double winner at the 1971 European Championships, may have doped. I heard Kaarlo Maaninka (1980 Olympian and medalist) admitted he did dope. As for Viren, because of the above accusations, he was pointed as a blood-doper, but he never admitted it (even though he was offered big bucks to disclaim it) and it was never proven.

[j0wled]

Blood doping was legal. What are you gonna do?

[kingwilson06ad]

Yes, it was legal, but a lot of the criticism of today gears around the ethics of using a performance-enhancing technique (regardless of whether it was legal at the time or not) to win a race. Because it was legal at the time and because Viren kept denying having boosted and losing some easy money makes me conclude he never blood-doped.

[franklin111291]

Lasse Viren

Un icono del Atletismo Mundial

sin duda uno de los Mejores atletas

No solo Finlandeses sino mundiales

A Good Video

[rytkonen]

Why Pre did that tactical movements???Very

talented runner, but compared Viren...Good runner!

[WWEfan95]

He didn't use any doping! He's the king athlete!

[quelindoo]

are the doping charges of every single american runner true? and every other athletic too? oh yes they are.

[fr556]

Viren was an amazing runner...great race.

[kingwilson06ad]

sisu Viren

[thebiggestfish]

Go Pre!

[KamalaMies]

Lasse on jumala!